Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
Francesco, I am just tired of losing my money. I work hard to acquire my meteorites, and doing hundreds of ebay auctions a month is a full-time job. To see 40 or 50% of items I send to Italy continually vanish is just no longer acceptable. I do not know or care where the problem it, but it is clearly on the Italian side. I am not the only one with the problem, it has been ongoing for years. I am simply no longer willing to throw my meteorites and money away by risking shipment to Italy if the meteorites are paid for via paypal. Michael Farmer --- Moser Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All! As you know I'm Italian so I think I have the right to tell you my 2cents! 1) Naples and the rubbish (OT): Maybe most of you don't know nothing about the rubbish situations in Naples and the near cities. This is the situation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rud-B1IDo-Qfeature=related http://images.google.it/images?gbv=2svnum=10hl=itclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Ait%3Aofficialq=napoli+immondiziabtnG=Cerca+immagini About 130.000ton of the rubbish on the streets!!! The fault is the Mafia, corrupt politicians and a lot of other people interested in the rubbish businnes. It's very humiliating that this is the image that the other countries has about Italy and about Italian people, so I write this e-mail. 2) Italian situation (OT): As you know Italy is a long and thin country, long about 1000km from north to south. You have to know that there are HUGE and HUGE difference beetween the northern regions and the southern regions. Many people who live in the northern Italy think that the south Italy looks like Third World, like the poorest and worst African Country. Who live in south Italy look at the northern like a paradise on earth! A lot of people leave the cities in south for search a better life and work in north. I'm so angry when someone from the other country think that the Mafia is present in Italy!!! Mafia is only in the south and biggest problem of my country comes also from the southern regions! Billions of Euro every year leave the northern regions for the south Italy, for try to resolve the dramatic situation, but all this money goes in the pocket of the Mafia :( When the political class will change I hope a lot of problems will disappear! So please when you insult Italy and the Italian People for Mafia and organized crime, remember that in Italy there are 2 different Italy!!! A rich and beatiful north and a poor and really problematic south!! 3) POSTAL PROBLEM: I'm so sorry to read that the post from USA to Europe (and specially to Italy) go lost in a lot of cases! In the last 2years I have sent and received a lot of packages, about 100. Only one letter sent to Germany went lost... At now the person how sent something to me have never lost anything, I have had some trouble only with a couple of letters... Actually I'm waiting for 5 meteorites...I hope they are on the way :D !!! I don't know the cause of these lost and for the huge delay, i think the situation has worsened in the last few month. I live in a little city, about 100.000 inhabitants, in august there were about 25ton of post in local postal office, nobody knows what really happened and why! 6 month ago a package took about 15days for the trip from USA, now I know I have to wait 4-6weeks. But for example Greg Hupe has sent me a box on 29.15 and it was arrived on 14.01! Some month ago I send a meteorite to Boston and the trip took just 8days with the normal post, just 0.80⬠of shipping cost! The trip of a letter from Germany took 3weeks... I don't think there is corruption of the postal service...I think it's hard to say where is the problem. I hope in the future the problem disappear so we (European and Italian) could buy from the great USA dealer without problem! Ciao Francesco Moser __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
its many strange many others from USA ship to Italy and arrive all with no problems and you and other few no Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : Moser Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED], ZZ ML Meteorite-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:59:46 -0800 (PST) Francesco, I am just tired of losing my money. I work hard to acquire my meteorites, and doing hundreds of ebay auctions a month is a full-time job. To see 40 or 50% of items I send to Italy continually vanish is just no longer acceptable. I do not know or care where the problem it, but it is clearly on the Italian side. I am not the only one with the problem, it has been ongoing for years. I am simply no longer willing to throw my meteorites and money away by risking shipment to Italy if the meteorites are paid for via paypal. Michael Farmer --- Moser Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All! As you know I'm Italian so I think I have the right to tell you my 2cents! 1) Naples and the rubbish (OT): Maybe most of you don't know nothing about the rubbish situations in Naples and the near cities. This is the situation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rud-B1IDo-Qfeature=related http://images.google.it/images?gbv=2svnum=10hl=itclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Ait%3Aofficialq=napoli+immondiziabtnG=Cerca+immagini About 130.000ton of the rubbish on the streets!!! The fault is the Mafia, corrupt politicians and a lot of other people interested in the rubbish businnes. It's very humiliating that this is the image that the other countries has about Italy and about Italian people, so I write this e-mail. 2) Italian situation (OT): As you know Italy is a long and thin country, long about 1000km from north to south. You have to know that there are HUGE and HUGE difference beetween the northern regions and the southern regions. Many people who live in the northern Italy think that the south Italy looks like Third World, like the poorest and worst African Country. Who live in south Italy look at the northern like a paradise on earth! A lot of people leave the cities in south for search a better life and work in north. I'm so angry when someone from the other country think that the Mafia is present in Italy!!! Mafia is only in the south and biggest problem of my country comes also from the southern regions! Billions of Euro every year leave the northern regions for the south Italy, for try to resolve the dramatic situation, but all this money goes in the pocket of the Mafia :( When the political class will change I hope a lot of problems will disappear! So please when you insult Italy and the Italian People for Mafia and organized crime, remember that in Italy there are 2 different Italy!!! A rich and beatiful north and a poor and really problematic south!! 3) POSTAL PROBLEM: I'm so sorry to read that the post from USA to Europe (and specially to Italy) go lost in a lot of cases! In the last 2years I have sent and received a lot of packages, about 100. Only one letter sent to Germany went lost... At now the person how sent something to me have never lost anything, I have had some trouble only with a couple of letters... Actually I'm waiting for 5 meteorites...I hope they are on the way :D !!! I don't know the cause of these lost and for the huge delay, i think the situation has worsened in the last few month. I live in a little city, about 100.000 inhabitants, in august there were about 25ton of post in local postal office, nobody knows what really happened and why! 6 month ago a package took about 15days for the trip from USA, now I know I have to wait 4-6weeks. But for example Greg Hupe has sent me a box on 29.15 and it was arrived on 14.01! Some month ago I send a meteorite to Boston and the trip took just 8days with the normal post, just 0.80⬠of shipping cost! The trip of a letter from Germany took 3weeks... I don't think there is corruption of the postal service...I think it's hard to say where is the problem. I hope in the future the problem disappear so we (European and Italian) could buy from the great USA dealer without problem! Ciao Francesco Moser __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
Hi All! As you know I'm Italian so I think I have the right to tell you my 2cents! 1) Naples and the rubbish (OT): Maybe most of you don't know nothing about the rubbish situations in Naples and the near cities. This is the situation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rud-B1IDo-Qfeature=related http://images.google.it/images?gbv=2svnum=10hl=itclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Ait%3Aofficialq=napoli+immondiziabtnG=Cerca+immagini About 130.000ton of the rubbish on the streets!!! The fault is the Mafia, corrupt politicians and a lot of other people interested in the rubbish businnes. It's very humiliating that this is the image that the other countries has about Italy and about Italian people, so I write this e-mail. 2) Italian situation (OT): As you know Italy is a long and thin country, long about 1000km from north to south. You have to know that there are HUGE and HUGE difference beetween the northern regions and the southern regions. Many people who live in the northern Italy think that the south Italy looks like Third World, like the poorest and worst African Country. Who live in south Italy look at the northern like a paradise on earth! A lot of people leave the cities in south for search a better life and work in north. I'm so angry when someone from the other country think that the Mafia is present in Italy!!! Mafia is only in the south and biggest problem of my country comes also from the southern regions! Billions of Euro every year leave the northern regions for the south Italy, for try to resolve the dramatic situation, but all this money goes in the pocket of the Mafia :( When the political class will change I hope a lot of problems will disappear! So please when you insult Italy and the Italian People for Mafia and organized crime, remember that in Italy there are 2 different Italy!!! A rich and beatiful north and a poor and really problematic south!! 3) POSTAL PROBLEM: I'm so sorry to read that the post from USA to Europe (and specially to Italy) go lost in a lot of cases! In the last 2years I have sent and received a lot of packages, about 100. Only one letter sent to Germany went lost... At now the person how sent something to me have never lost anything, I have had some trouble only with a couple of letters... Actually I'm waiting for 5 meteorites...I hope they are on the way :D !!! I don't know the cause of these lost and for the huge delay, i think the situation has worsened in the last few month. I live in a little city, about 100.000 inhabitants, in august there were about 25ton of post in local postal office, nobody knows what really happened and why! 6 month ago a package took about 15days for the trip from USA, now I know I have to wait 4-6weeks. But for example Greg Hupe has sent me a box on 29.15 and it was arrived on 14.01! Some month ago I send a meteorite to Boston and the trip took just 8days with the normal post, just 0.80€ of shipping cost! The trip of a letter from Germany took 3weeks... I don't think there is corruption of the postal service...I think it's hard to say where is the problem. I hope in the future the problem disappear so we (European and Italian) could buy from the great USA dealer without problem! Ciao Francesco Moser __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
38 (now 39) Posts in the last 24 hours with this subject. Hell, even Chicago Steve never got this bad. Damn, if I am not getting tired of all this crap. Bring back Steve and restore some sanity to this list. Howard Steffic From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:17:45 +0100 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal its many strange many others from USA ship to Italy and arrive all with no problems and you and other few no Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer A : Moser Francesco , ZZ ML Meteorite-List Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:59:46 -0800 (PST) Francesco, I am just tired of losing my money. I work hard to acquire my meteorites, and doing hundreds of ebay auctions a month is a full-time job. To see 40 or 50% of items I send to Italy continually vanish is just no longer acceptable. I do not know or care where the problem it, but it is clearly on the Italian side. I am not the only one with the problem, it has been ongoing for years. I am simply no longer willing to throw my meteorites and money away by risking shipment to Italy if the meteorites are paid for via paypal. Michael Farmer --- Moser Francesco wrote: Hi All! As you know I'm Italian so I think I have the right to tell you my 2cents! 1) Naples and the rubbish (OT): Maybe most of you don't know nothing about the rubbish situations in Naples and the near cities. This is the situation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rud-B1IDo-Qfeature=related http://images.google.it/images?gbv=2svnum=10hl=itclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Ait%3Aofficialq=napoli+immondiziabtnG=Cerca+immagini About 130.000ton of the rubbish on the streets!!! The fault is the Mafia, corrupt politicians and a lot of other people interested in the rubbish businnes. It's very humiliating that this is the image that the other countries has about Italy and about Italian people, so I write this e-mail. 2) Italian situation (OT): As you know Italy is a long and thin country, long about 1000km from north to south. You have to know that there are HUGE and HUGE difference beetween the northern regions and the southern regions. Many people who live in the northern Italy think that the south Italy looks like Third World, like the poorest and worst African Country. Who live in south Italy look at the northern like a paradise on earth! A lot of people leave the cities in south for search a better life and work in north. I'm so angry when someone from the other country think that the Mafia is present in Italy!!! Mafia is only in the south and biggest problem of my country comes also from the southern regions! Billions of Euro every year leave the northern regions for the south Italy, for try to resolve the dramatic situation, but all this money goes in the pocket of the Mafia :( When the political class will change I hope a lot of problems will disappear! So please when you insult Italy and the Italian People for Mafia and organized crime, remember that in Italy there are 2 different Italy!!! A rich and beatiful north and a poor and really problematic south!! 3) POSTAL PROBLEM: I'm so sorry to read that the post from USA to Europe (and specially to Italy) go lost in a lot of cases! In the last 2years I have sent and received a lot of packages, about 100. Only one letter sent to Germany went lost... At now the person how sent something to me have never lost anything, I have had some trouble only with a couple of letters... Actually I'm waiting for 5 meteorites...I hope they are on the way :D !!! I don't know the cause of these lost and for the huge delay, i think the situation has worsened in the last few month. I live in a little city, about 100.000 inhabitants, in august there were about 25ton of post in local postal office, nobody knows what really happened and why! 6 month ago a package took about 15days for the trip from USA, now I know I have to wait 4-6weeks. But for example Greg Hupe has sent me a box on 29.15 and it was arrived on 14.01! Some month ago I send a meteorite to Boston and the trip took just 8days with the normal post, just 0.80€ of shipping cost! The trip of a letter from Germany took 3weeks... I don't think there is corruption of the postal service...I think it's hard to say where is the problem. I hope in the future the problem disappear so we (European and Italian) could buy from the great USA dealer without problem! Ciao Francesco Moser __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
To those who ship to Italy and lose items, do you list exactly what's in the package on the customs label? Ron ... its many strange many others from USA ship to Italy and arrive all with no problems and you and other few no Matteo Francesco, I am just tired of losing my money. I work hard to acquire my meteorites, and doing hundreds of ebay auctions a month is a full-time job. To see 40 or 50% of items I send to Italy continually vanish is just no longer acceptable. I do not know or care where the problem it, but it is clearly on the Italian side. I am not the only one with the problem, it has been ongoing for years. I am simply no longer willing to throw my meteorites and money away by risking shipment to Italy if the meteorites are paid for via paypal. Michael Farmer --- Moser Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All! As you know I'm Italian so I think I have the right to tell you my 2cents! 1) Naples and the rubbish (OT): Maybe most of you don't know nothing about the rubbish situations in Naples and the near cities. This is the situation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rud-B1IDo-Qfeature=related http://images.google.it/images?gbv=2svnum=10hl=itclient=firefox-arls=org mozilla%3Ait%3Aofficialq=napoli+immondiziabtnG=Cerca+immagini About 130.000ton of the rubbish on the streets!!! The fault is the Mafia, corrupt politicians and a lot of other people interested in the rubbish businnes. It's very humiliating that this is the image that the other countries has about Italy and about Italian people, so I write this e-mail. 2) Italian situation (OT): As you know Italy is a long and thin country, long about 1000km from north to south. You have to know that there are HUGE and HUGE difference beetween the northern regions and the southern regions. Many people who live in the northern Italy think that the south Italy looks like Third World, like the poorest and worst African Country. Who live in south Italy look at the northern like a paradise on earth! A lot of people leave the cities in south for search a better life and work in north. I'm so angry when someone from the other country think that the Mafia is present in Italy!!! Mafia is only in the south and biggest problem of my country comes also from the southern regions! Billions of Euro every year leave the northern regions for the south Italy, for try to resolve the dramatic situation, but all this money goes in the pocket of the Mafia :( When the political class will change I hope a lot of problems will disappear! So please when you insult Italy and the Italian People for Mafia and organized crime, remember that in Italy there are 2 different Italy!!! A rich and beatiful north and a poor and really problematic south!! 3) POSTAL PROBLEM: I'm so sorry to read that the post from USA to Europe (and specially to Italy) go lost in a lot of cases! In the last 2years I have sent and received a lot of packages, about 100. Only one letter sent to Germany went lost... At now the person how sent something to me have never lost anything, I have had some trouble only with a couple of letters... Actually I'm waiting for 5 meteorites...I hope they are on the way :D !!! I don't know the cause of these lost and for the huge delay, i think the situation has worsened in the last few month. I live in a little city, about 100.000 inhabitants, in august there were about 25ton of post in local postal office, nobody knows what really happened and why! 6 month ago a package took about 15days for the trip from USA, now I know I have to wait 4-6weeks. But for example Greg Hupe has sent me a box on 29.15 and it was arrived on 14.01! Some month ago I send a meteorite to Boston and the trip took just 8days with the normal post, just 0.80â,¬ of shipping cost! The trip of a letter from Germany took 3weeks... I don't think there is corruption of the postal service...I think it's hard to say where is the problem. I hope in the future the problem disappear so we (European and Italian) could buy from the great USA dealer without problem! Ciao Francesco Moser __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
Hi Mike! I agree with you at 100%, nobody it's happy when loose money and meteorite. I write my e-mail just for inform all the meteorite people interested in the topic about what we are telling. Also I write my e-mail beacause I'm boried to listen to the foreign people about the Italy like the worst place on Earth! Ciao Francesco Moser - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Moser Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ZZ ML Meteorite-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Francesco, I am just tired of losing my money. I work hard to acquire my meteorites, and doing hundreds of ebay auctions a month is a full-time job. To see 40 or 50% of items I send to Italy continually vanish is just no longer acceptable. I do not know or care where the problem it, but it is clearly on the Italian side. I am not the only one with the problem, it has been ongoing for years. I am simply no longer willing to throw my meteorites and money away by risking shipment to Italy if the meteorites are paid for via paypal. Michael Farmer --- Moser Francesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All! As you know I'm Italian so I think I have the right to tell you my 2cents! 1) Naples and the rubbish (OT): Maybe most of you don't know nothing about the rubbish situations in Naples and the near cities. This is the situation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rud-B1IDo-Qfeature=related http://images.google.it/images?gbv=2svnum=10hl=itclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Ait%3Aofficialq=napoli+immondiziabtnG=Cerca+immagini About 130.000ton of the rubbish on the streets!!! The fault is the Mafia, corrupt politicians and a lot of other people interested in the rubbish businnes. It's very humiliating that this is the image that the other countries has about Italy and about Italian people, so I write this e-mail. 2) Italian situation (OT): As you know Italy is a long and thin country, long about 1000km from north to south. You have to know that there are HUGE and HUGE difference beetween the northern regions and the southern regions. Many people who live in the northern Italy think that the south Italy looks like Third World, like the poorest and worst African Country. Who live in south Italy look at the northern like a paradise on earth! A lot of people leave the cities in south for search a better life and work in north. I'm so angry when someone from the other country think that the Mafia is present in Italy!!! Mafia is only in the south and biggest problem of my country comes also from the southern regions! Billions of Euro every year leave the northern regions for the south Italy, for try to resolve the dramatic situation, but all this money goes in the pocket of the Mafia :( When the political class will change I hope a lot of problems will disappear! So please when you insult Italy and the Italian People for Mafia and organized crime, remember that in Italy there are 2 different Italy!!! A rich and beatiful north and a poor and really problematic south!! 3) POSTAL PROBLEM: I'm so sorry to read that the post from USA to Europe (and specially to Italy) go lost in a lot of cases! In the last 2years I have sent and received a lot of packages, about 100. Only one letter sent to Germany went lost... At now the person how sent something to me have never lost anything, I have had some trouble only with a couple of letters... Actually I'm waiting for 5 meteorites...I hope they are on the way :D !!! I don't know the cause of these lost and for the huge delay, i think the situation has worsened in the last few month. I live in a little city, about 100.000 inhabitants, in august there were about 25ton of post in local postal office, nobody knows what really happened and why! 6 month ago a package took about 15days for the trip from USA, now I know I have to wait 4-6weeks. But for example Greg Hupe has sent me a box on 29.15 and it was arrived on 14.01! Some month ago I send a meteorite to Boston and the trip took just 8days with the normal post, just 0.80â,¬ of shipping cost! The trip of a letter from Germany took 3weeks... I don't think there is corruption of the postal service...I think it's hard to say where is the problem. I hope in the future the problem disappear so we (European and Italian) could buy from the great USA dealer without problem! Ciao Francesco Moser __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service has caused much mayhem and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same buyers making the same claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely corrupt postal service in Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal Service into a toilet category, but NO other postal service has even come close to being so corrupt. The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on to packages for months! They don't seem to be corrupt, just after every penny they can get for customs duty. They are very slow sometimes. I too have thought about not sending to Italy anymore. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
I think the word lately dont belong in farmers email. I always have problems with Italian postal service. Interestingly I have a problem one this morning that is supposedly lost that I mailed 6 weeks ago and have had 3 customers inniating paypal chargebacks from Italy (100% of my total) in the past 3 or 4 months - mostly for stamps. Quite a few people will not ship to Italy. Maybe you could say Fed Ex only. I have been toying with the idea of refusing to send shipments to Italy but I have the occasional customer in Italy and two very good ones who will pay for fed ex shipping. Is there any way on ebay to block bidders from italy but then allow individual bidders on a case by case basis? Maybe I shoudl ask the ebay powerseller people that question. Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service has caused much mayhem and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same buyers making the same claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely corrupt postal service in Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal Service into a toilet category, but NO other postal service has even come close to being so corrupt. The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on to packages for months! They don't seem to be corrupt, just after every penny they can get for customs duty. They are very slow sometimes. I too have thought about not sending to Italy anymore. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
buhauhauahuhaI received all via registered mail or via FedEx and all arrive. Its well know you never ship via registered mail. matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'M come Meteorite Meteorites' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto : RE: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:44:04 -0700 Matteo REGISTERED MAIL TO ITALY DISAPPEARS TOO! Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:27 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal or why you have never sent pack with registered mail how had I asked in my case? Matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'Michael Farmer' [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:09:42 -0700 YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service has caused much mayhem and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same buyers making the same claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely corrupt postal service in Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal Service into a toilet category, but NO other postal service has even come close to being so corrupt. The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on to packages for months! They don't seem to be corrupt, just after every penny they can get for customs duty. They are very slow sometimes. I too have thought about not sending to Italy anymore. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo, Facts please You know here to state statements like this mean you are the one responsible for proof. Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 21:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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or why you have never sent pack with registered mail how had I asked in my case? Matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'Michael Farmer' [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:09:42 -0700 YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service has caused much mayhem and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same buyers making the same claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely corrupt postal service in Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal Service into a toilet category, but NO other postal service has even come close to being so corrupt. The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on to packages for months! They don't seem to be corrupt, just after every penny they can get for customs duty. They are very slow sometimes. I too have thought about not sending to Italy anymore. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
I think the word lately dont belong in farmers email. I always have problems with Italian postal service. Interestingly I have a problem one this morning that is supposedly lost that I mailed 6 weeks ago and have had 3 customers inniating paypal chargebacks from Italy (100% of my total) in the past 3 or 4 months - mostly for stamps. Quite a few people will not ship to Italy. Maybe you could say Fed Ex only. I have been toying with the idea of refusing to send shipments to Italy but I have the occasional customer in Italy and two very good ones who will pay for fed ex shipping. Is there any way on ebay to block bidders from italy but then allow individual bidders on a case by case basis? Maybe I shoudl ask the ebay powerseller people that question. Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service has caused much mayhem and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same buyers making the same claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely corrupt postal service in Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal Service into a toilet category, but NO other postal service has even come close to being so corrupt. The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on to packages for months! They don't seem to be corrupt, just after every penny they can get for customs duty. They are very slow sometimes. I too have thought about not sending to Italy anymore. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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The facts arrive, from another italian, my fact is pass over 1 year with a slice of Tenham, months and months never arrive and after is strangly arrive when I have contact for many times Bostick...probably not have sent? And after have sent immediatly but only after he have say the faoult is of the italian mail? Matteo - Original Message - Da : Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:51:18 +0100 with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo, Facts please You know here to state statements like this mean you are the one responsible for proof. Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 21:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
Matteo, registered items here starts at $7.00. Do you want to pay $10.00 shipping for a $10.00 item? I don't think so. I am sick and tired of every item I send to Italy being lost. That is it, I am done, sorry Italians, but blame your postal system. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
Hey, I was reading about how corrupt Italy is yesterday on my flight from London, it seems that Naples is buried under thousands of tons of trash for the last few months, every street piled high in stinking garbage, why, the MAFIA controls all garbage collection there, and they want money to make new landfills. How pathetic, one of Europe's great cities filled with trash by corrupt government. Ship to Italy at your own risk, as someone who has sold thousands of items on ebay last year, I know what I am talking about. Michael Farmer --- michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I HAVE HAD TWO REGISTERD MAILS TO ITALY DISAPPEAR and One to GERMANY. ALL RECEIPTS KEPT AND PHOTOS SENT. NO TRACE. I have mailed over 500 packages in the last 6 months... I believe I know my business. Don't tell me registered mails don't disappear. WHY is it that the US Postal System will not give insurance on packages to Italy? Because that system is corrupt beyond understanding! Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:55 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal buhauhauahuhaI received all via registered mail or via FedEx and all arrive. Its well know you never ship via registered mail. matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'M come Meteorite Meteorites' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto : RE: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:44:04 -0700 Matteo REGISTERED MAIL TO ITALY DISAPPEARS TOO! Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:27 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal or why you have never sent pack with registered mail how had I asked in my case? Matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'Michael Farmer' [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:09:42 -0700 YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service has caused much mayhem and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same buyers making the same claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely corrupt postal service in Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal Service into a toilet category, but NO other postal service has even come close to being so corrupt. The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on to packages for months! They don't seem to be corrupt, just after every penny they can get for customs duty. They are very slow sometimes. I too have thought about not sending to Italy anymore. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
I imagine because for smaller orders it's not worth the hassle and extra cost? M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: or why you have never sent pack with registered mail how had I asked in my case? Matteo -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
I HAVE HAD TWO REGISTERD MAILS TO ITALY DISAPPEAR and One to GERMANY. ALL RECEIPTS KEPT AND PHOTOS SENT. NO TRACE. I have mailed over 500 packages in the last 6 months... I believe I know my business. Don't tell me registered mails don't disappear. WHY is it that the US Postal System will not give insurance on packages to Italy? Because that system is corrupt beyond understanding! Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:55 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal buhauhauahuhaI received all via registered mail or via FedEx and all arrive. Its well know you never ship via registered mail. matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'M come Meteorite Meteorites' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto : RE: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:44:04 -0700 Matteo REGISTERED MAIL TO ITALY DISAPPEARS TOO! Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:27 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal or why you have never sent pack with registered mail how had I asked in my case? Matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'Michael Farmer' [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:09:42 -0700 YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service has caused much mayhem and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same buyers making the same claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely corrupt postal service in Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal Service into a toilet category, but NO other postal service has even come close to being so corrupt. The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on to packages for months! They don't seem to be corrupt, just after every penny they can get for customs duty. They are very slow sometimes. I too have thought about not sending to Italy anymore. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
Give me a break, Whatever, don't worry about it, Italy is off my shipping list. out of the last 10 chargebacks on paypal, 8 were from Italy, one from france, one from Germany. That is too many losses for me, paypal refunds all their money, I am left with nothing. I will not do it again. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The facts arrive, from another italian, my fact is pass over 1 year with a slice of Tenham, months and months never arrive and after is strangly arrive when I have contact for many times Bostick...probably not have sent? And after have sent immediatly but only after he have say the faoult is of the italian mail? Matteo - Original Message - Da : Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:51:18 +0100 with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo, Facts please You know here to state statements like this mean you are the one responsible for proof. Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 21:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
I agree 100% on this isssue, I agree, Italy is a huge problem. I had to change hundreds of descriptions because of lost packages, mainly to Italy. In my eBay descriptions, I now state that I am no longer responsible for delays or lost items if USPS Global Express is not opted for at at cost $25.00 for those overseas. If you are from Italy, be forewarned, I will no longer take responsibility for delayed or lost packages and will demonstrate to PayPal that I state this in every description if any more claims are made. I have lost thousands of dollars in refunds and claims, almost to the point eBay and PayPal are no longer worth it. Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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here a registered mail to USA cost 5 euro, but any my client have say nothing on this price, and normaly a registered mail to USA arrive in 10-15 days matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:34:57 -0800 (PST) Matteo, registered items here starts at $7.00. Do you want to pay $10.00 shipping for a $10.00 item? I don't think so. I am sick and tired of every item I send to Italy being lost. That is it, I am done, sorry Italians, but blame your postal system. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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registered airmail or FedEx matteo - Original Message - Da : David Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:05:58 -0500 What mail service do you use? Express, Priority, Registered First Class or First Class? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Mike and list members, when I started meteorite at ebay to sell me were also two items lost. Since that day i send only registered! Since I have more than 2000 items shipped and not is lost. If a buyer wants to save shipping costs and the risk loves he can not buy me. I send all pices registered worldwide. It is so easy to prevent! It is not the Post Office and the Customs trust! best wishes Mirko --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Give me a break, Whatever, don't worry about it, Italy is off my shipping list. out of the last 10 chargebacks on paypal, 8 were from Italy, one from france, one from Germany. That is too many losses for me, paypal refunds all their money, I am left with nothing. I will not do it again. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The facts arrive, from another italian, my fact is pass over 1 year with a slice of Tenham, months and months never arrive and after is strangly arrive when I have contact for many times Bostick...probably not have sent? And after have sent immediatly but only after he have say the faoult is of the italian mail? Matteo - Original Message - Da : Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:51:18 +0100 with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo, Facts please You know here to state statements like this mean you are the one responsible for proof. Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 21:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Jetzt Mails schnell in einem Vorschaufenster überfliegen. Dies und viel mehr bietet das neue Yahoo! Mail - www.yahoo.de/mail __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Geez, Is there really any surprise that there is corruption in Italy ? Isnt that the origin of the Mafia and organized crime ?? H ?? - Original Message - From: Mirko Graul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Mike, oh,that i did not know. I can understand. Time is money. More time for fill out the paperwork is more time. Yes,that is difficult. Here in Germany it is easy! The same work and the same time for registered and not registered airmail. Many greetings Mirko --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mirko, I simply can not send a $10.00 item via registered mail, here we must fill out paperwork for that, not like Germany where they only scan a lable and the number is on your receipt. Mike --- Mirko Graul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and list members, when I started meteorite at ebay to sell me were also two items lost. Since that day i send only registered! Since I have more than 2000 items shipped and not is lost. If a buyer wants to save shipping costs and the risk loves he can not buy me. I send all pices registered worldwide. It is so easy to prevent! It is not the Post Office and the Customs trust! best wishes Mirko --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Give me a break, Whatever, don't worry about it, Italy is off my shipping list. out of the last 10 chargebacks on paypal, 8 were from Italy, one from france, one from Germany. That is too many losses for me, paypal refunds all their money, I am left with nothing. I will not do it again. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The facts arrive, from another italian, my fact is pass over 1 year with a slice of Tenham, months and months never arrive and after is strangly arrive when I have contact for many times Bostick...probably not have sent? And after have sent immediatly but only after he have say the faoult is of the italian mail? Matteo - Original Message - Da : Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:51:18 +0100 with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo, Facts please You know here to state statements like this mean you are the one responsible for proof. Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 21:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
Adam, if they pay via paypal, it does not matter what you say or demand, if they py with paypal, and you do not use FEDEX or DHL, or UPS, then they will refund the money to the buyer. What you say in your auction means nothing. I have went round and round with Paypal over this, it does not matter, if you, the shipper does not provide a tracking number (registered mail does not count) then they automatically refund the payment. I am telling you from over $2000 lost money now. NO MORE ITALY with paypal. FINITO Michael Farmer --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree 100% on this isssue, I agree, Italy is a huge problem. I had to change hundreds of descriptions because of lost packages, mainly to Italy. In my eBay descriptions, I now state that I am no longer responsible for delays or lost items if USPS Global Express is not opted for at at cost $25.00 for those overseas. If you are from Italy, be forewarned, I will no longer take responsibility for delayed or lost packages and will demonstrate to PayPal that I state this in every description if any more claims are made. I have lost thousands of dollars in refunds and claims, almost to the point eBay and PayPal are no longer worth it. Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Matteo- Ref: hahahahah.Cottingham stop to say balls.. I have to ask- why should Michael stop and say balls? Will that change anything? Mike --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hahahahah.Cottingham stop to say balls, I have just received few days ago two Zeiss Luminar macro lens from USA with value declared of $850 and its arrive via registered mail via USPS, the same for a Nikon bellow of $250 arrive the same in 1 week without any problem, I have buy a meteorite coin from Nakhladog and its arrive without any problem...etc.. etc... is well know you are not the first time you ship via odinary mail and the packs is normaly they go lost. Matteo Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Naples is another question, is well know the problems they have. This is a OT with the argoument - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'M come Meteorite Meteorites' [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:50:28 -0800 (PST) Hey, I was reading about how corrupt Italy is yesterday on my flight from London, it seems that Naples is buried under thousands of tons of trash for the last few months, every street piled high in stinking garbage, why, the MAFIA controls all garbage collection there, and they want money to make new landfills. How pathetic, one of Europe's great cities filled with trash by corrupt government. Ship to Italy at your own risk, as someone who has sold thousands of items on ebay last year, I know what I am talking about. Michael Farmer --- michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I HAVE HAD TWO REGISTERD MAILS TO ITALY DISAPPEAR and One to GERMANY. ALL RECEIPTS KEPT AND PHOTOS SENT. NO TRACE. I have mailed over 500 packages in the last 6 months... I believe I know my business. Don't tell me registered mails don't disappear. WHY is it that the US Postal System will not give insurance on packages to Italy? Because that system is corrupt beyond understanding! Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:55 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal buhauhauahuhaI received all via registered mail or via FedEx and all arrive. Its well know you never ship via registered mail. matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'M come Meteorite Meteorites' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto : RE: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:44:04 -0700 Matteo REGISTERED MAIL TO ITALY DISAPPEARS TOO! Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:27 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal or why you have never sent pack with registered mail how had I asked in my case? Matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'Michael Farmer' [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:09:42 -0700 YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service has caused much mayhem and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same buyers making the same claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely corrupt postal service in Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal Service into a toilet category, but NO other postal service has even come close to being so corrupt. The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on to packages for months! They don't seem to be corrupt, just after every penny they can get for customs duty. They are very slow sometimes. I too have thought about not sending to Italy anymore. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list
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Mike, oh,that i did not know. I can understand. Time is money. More time for fill out the paperwork is more time. Yes,that is difficult. Here in Germany it is easy! The same work and the same time for registered and not registered airmail. Many greetings Mirko --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mirko, I simply can not send a $10.00 item via registered mail, here we must fill out paperwork for that, not like Germany where they only scan a lable and the number is on your receipt. Mike --- Mirko Graul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and list members, when I started meteorite at ebay to sell me were also two items lost. Since that day i send only registered! Since I have more than 2000 items shipped and not is lost. If a buyer wants to save shipping costs and the risk loves he can not buy me. I send all pices registered worldwide. It is so easy to prevent! It is not the Post Office and the Customs trust! best wishes Mirko --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Give me a break, Whatever, don't worry about it, Italy is off my shipping list. out of the last 10 chargebacks on paypal, 8 were from Italy, one from france, one from Germany. That is too many losses for me, paypal refunds all their money, I am left with nothing. I will not do it again. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The facts arrive, from another italian, my fact is pass over 1 year with a slice of Tenham, months and months never arrive and after is strangly arrive when I have contact for many times Bostick...probably not have sent? And after have sent immediatly but only after he have say the faoult is of the italian mail? Matteo - Original Message - Da : Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:51:18 +0100 with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo, Facts please You know here to state statements like this mean you are the one responsible for proof. Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 21:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ === message truncated === Jetzt Mails schnell in einem Vorschaufenster überfliegen. Dies und viel
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hahahahah.Cottingham stop to say balls, I have just received few days ago two Zeiss Luminar macro lens from USA with value declared of $850 and its arrive via registered mail via USPS, the same for a Nikon bellow of $250 arrive the same in 1 week without any problem, I have buy a meteorite coin from Nakhladog and its arrive without any problem...etc.. etc... is well know you are not the first time you ship via odinary mail and the packs is normaly they go lost. Matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'M come Meteorite Meteorites' [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : RE: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:32:21 -0700 I HAVE HAD TWO REGISTERD MAILS TO ITALY DISAPPEAR and One to GERMANY. ALL RECEIPTS KEPT AND PHOTOS SENT. NO TRACE. I have mailed over 500 packages in the last 6 months... I believe I know my business. Don't tell me registered mails don't disappear. WHY is it that the US Postal System will not give insurance on packages to Italy? Because that system is corrupt beyond understanding! Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:55 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal buhauhauahuhaI received all via registered mail or via FedEx and all arrive. Its well know you never ship via registered mail. matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'M come Meteorite Meteorites' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto : RE: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:44:04 -0700 Matteo REGISTERED MAIL TO ITALY DISAPPEARS TOO! Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:27 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal or why you have never sent pack with registered mail how had I asked in my case? Matteo - Original Message - Da : michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : 'Michael Farmer' [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:09:42 -0700 YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service has caused much mayhem and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same buyers making the same claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely corrupt postal service in Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal Service into a toilet category, but NO other postal service has even come close to being so corrupt. The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on to packages for months! They don't seem to be corrupt, just after every penny they can get for customs duty. They are very slow sometimes. I too have thought about not sending to Italy anymore. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages to Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to the paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. Anyone else having this problem lately? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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at $200 of material is not smaller order matteo - Original Message - Da : Mark Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:02:11 + I imagine because for smaller orders it's not worth the hassle and extra cost? M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: or why you have never sent pack with registered mail how had I asked in my case? Matteo -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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As Matteo mentioned Michael Cottingham: Just two weeks ago I bought a beautiful NWA 3118 from him - it was his own decision to pay more for the shipping as announced (and paid by me) and send the package via Global Express. Eight days later I received it here in Germany. Perfect service. Only for balancing thze statements ... Matthias Baermann - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal I agree 100% on this isssue, I agree, Italy is a huge problem. I had to change hundreds of descriptions because of lost packages, mainly to Italy. In my eBay descriptions, I now state that I am no longer responsible for delays or lost items if USPS Global Express is not opted for at at cost $25.00 for those overseas. If you are from Italy, be forewarned, I will no longer take responsibility for delayed or lost packages and will demonstrate to PayPal that I state this in every description if any more claims are made. I have lost thousands of dollars in refunds and claims, almost to the point eBay and PayPal are no longer worth it. Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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the problem here in Italy its the Custom, Why in some case I have say not put the value declared? Why they stop the pack for control for many months, at 2 months. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:40:38 -0800 (PST) I agree 100% on this isssue, I agree, Italy is a huge problem. I had to change hundreds of descriptions because of lost packages, mainly to Italy. In my eBay descriptions, I now state that I am no longer responsible for delays or lost items if USPS Global Express is not opted for at at cost $25.00 for those overseas. If you are from Italy, be forewarned, I will no longer take responsibility for delayed or lost packages and will demonstrate to PayPal that I state this in every description if any more claims are made. I have lost thousands of dollars in refunds and claims, almost to the point eBay and PayPal are no longer worth it. Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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for me is not a problem and the same for others here matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:20:23 -0800 (PST) NO MORE ITALY with paypal. FINITO Michael Farmer --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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If I remember the mafia its many present the same in USA Matteo - Original Message - Da : Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : Mirko Graul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:50:40 -0600 Geez, Is there really any surprise that there is corruption in Italy ? Isnt that the origin of the Mafia and organized crime ?? H ?? - Original Message - From: Mirko Graul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Mike, oh,that i did not know. I can understand. Time is money. More time for fill out the paperwork is more time. Yes,that is difficult. Here in Germany it is easy! The same work and the same time for registered and not registered airmail. Many greetings Mirko --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mirko, I simply can not send a $10.00 item via registered mail, here we must fill out paperwork for that, not like Germany where they only scan a lable and the number is on your receipt. Mike --- Mirko Graul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and list members, when I started meteorite at ebay to sell me were also two items lost. Since that day i send only registered! Since I have more than 2000 items shipped and not is lost. If a buyer wants to save shipping costs and the risk loves he can not buy me. I send all pices registered worldwide. It is so easy to prevent! It is not the Post Office and the Customs trust! best wishes Mirko --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Give me a break, Whatever, don't worry about it, Italy is off my shipping list. out of the last 10 chargebacks on paypal, 8 were from Italy, one from france, one from Germany. That is too many losses for me, paypal refunds all their money, I am left with nothing. I will not do it again. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The facts arrive, from another italian, my fact is pass over 1 year with a slice of Tenham, months and months never arrive and after is strangly arrive when I have contact for many times Bostick...probably not have sent? And after have sent immediatly but only after he have say the faoult is of the italian mail? Matteo - Original Message - Da : Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:51:18 +0100 with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo, Facts please You know here to state statements like this mean you are the one responsible for proof. Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 21:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST) List members, I don't know about others, but myself and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by paypal/Italian buyers lately. In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal took my money automatically. I will no longer ship anything to Italy using paypal, any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or international postal money order. Then I will ship, so that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian postal workers, that is not my problem. This has become so common, that either all packages
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Of course, but none of our cities are buried under trash because of it. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember the mafia its many present the same in USA Matteo - Original Message - Da : Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : Mirko Graul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:50:40 -0600 Geez, Is there really any surprise that there is corruption in Italy ? Isnt that the origin of the Mafia and organized crime ?? H ?? - Original Message - From: Mirko Graul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Mike, oh,that i did not know. I can understand. Time is money. More time for fill out the paperwork is more time. Yes,that is difficult. Here in Germany it is easy! The same work and the same time for registered and not registered airmail. Many greetings Mirko --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mirko, I simply can not send a $10.00 item via registered mail, here we must fill out paperwork for that, not like Germany where they only scan a lable and the number is on your receipt. Mike --- Mirko Graul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and list members, when I started meteorite at ebay to sell me were also two items lost. Since that day i send only registered! Since I have more than 2000 items shipped and not is lost. If a buyer wants to save shipping costs and the risk loves he can not buy me. I send all pices registered worldwide. It is so easy to prevent! It is not the Post Office and the Customs trust! best wishes Mirko --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Give me a break, Whatever, don't worry about it, Italy is off my shipping list. out of the last 10 chargebacks on paypal, 8 were from Italy, one from france, one from Germany. That is too many losses for me, paypal refunds all their money, I am left with nothing. I will not do it again. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The facts arrive, from another italian, my fact is pass over 1 year with a slice of Tenham, months and months never arrive and after is strangly arrive when I have contact for many times Bostick...probably not have sent? And after have sent immediatly but only after he have say the faoult is of the italian mail? Matteo - Original Message - Da : Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:51:18 +0100 with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo, Facts please You know here to state statements like this mean you are the one responsible for proof. Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 21:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal bah...I receive every day packs from outside Italy and from USA with value declared and no and any of this go lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never arrive, one with Cottingham why not have sent via registered letter and another with Mark Bostik, and others here have problems with this last person with packs never arrive Matteo === message truncated === __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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wow miracle, he have sent via global express...normaly this arrive in 8 days, the same if I ask a FedEx this arrive in 3 days.but ask to ship via ordinary mail and look if the pack arrive in 8 days.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal Data : Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:18:34 +0100 As Matteo mentioned Michael Cottingham: Just two weeks ago I bought a beautiful NWA 3118 from him - it was his own decision to pay more for the shipping as announced (and paid by me) and send the package via Global Express. Eight days later I received it here in Germany. Perfect service. Only for balancing thze statements ... Matthias Baermann - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal I agree 100% on this isssue, I agree, Italy is a huge problem. I had to change hundreds of descriptions because of lost packages, mainly to Italy. In my eBay descriptions, I now state that I am no longer responsible for delays or lost items if USPS Global Express is not opted for at at cost $25.00 for those overseas. If you are from Italy, be forewarned, I will no longer take responsibility for delayed or lost packages and will demonstrate to PayPal that I state this in every description if any more claims are made. I have lost thousands of dollars in refunds and claims, almost to the point eBay and PayPal are no longer worth it. Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
