Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions

2004-09-13 Thread Martin Altmann
I always buy from sellers in turmoil, how about the rest of the List?

Well, you asked,
I won't buy from or sell to Evans, as he still didn't paid the 1000 bucks,
he's owing to Ralew,
and shows no efforts to do so. Perhaps the revenues of his auctions will
help him to do so.

Martin
IMCA #3825

 Now boys, isn't this become a bit unsavory?

 Bob, can't come up with any original description huh?

 I always buy from sellers in turmoil, how about the rest of the List?

 Makes me miss Michael Casper!! RR The Captain's our
 sailin' the Caribbean!


 Any IMCA comments? ;-)

 Dave F.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions

2004-09-13 Thread David Freeman



Dear Bob; 
I think it tends to speak of one's personal character when one copies /borrows
without favor/ out right furnishes others' descriptions and doesn't cite
the original source. 
Lazy comes to mindmentally lazy. No, last I knew the ebay descriptions
police didn't waste time on small word thiefs.'Wouldn't call it corrupt,
just lacking mental character and personal motivation. Just the kind of 4.0
meteorite dealer we love to support during times of easy sales and great
meteorite market activity, and thriving prices like we all experience today!

Poo-poo you.
Dave F.

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  Dave,Do you know how long before the ebay desciptions police come to get me?Im sorry but youve got to look at Adams emails and laugh.Besides its Sunday night and theres nothing on TV more entertaining thanthis.Goodnight allBob E.- Original Message -From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:42 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
  
Now boys, isn't this become a bit unsavory?Bob, can't come up with any original description huh?I always buy from sellers in turmoil, how about the rest of the List?Makes me miss Michael Casper!! RR The Captain's oursailin' the Caribbean!Any IMCA comments? ;-)Dave F.Comcast Mail wrote:

  Whats next ? AdamI cant use the word "meteorite" in my auction headers, because you own
  
  
  the
  

  word "meteorite" ,too?BE- Original Message -From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:59 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
  
Dear List,To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example



you

  

  can check out for yourself.  Bob took it upon himself not only to use
  
  
  
  NWA
  

  
numbers we reserved and paid for the study of,  he is actually copying



our

  

  descriptions, word-for-word.  Bob, these descriptions are the property
  
  
  
  of
  

  
Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS!Our Description and ebay link:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957

  
NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second "Olivine Diogenite" in private

hands,

  found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A weight of only 312 grams is recorded
  
  for
  
this find.  NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to thepublic weighed a mere 49 grams.  After cutting losses and type specimendeposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private

hands

  including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepestsample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta.   A great deal of time
  
  
  
  was
  

  
spent preparing this material.  We used a penetrant stabilizer beforepolishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked

during

 

Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions

2004-09-12 Thread Comcast Mail
Whats next ? Adam

I cant use the word meteorite in my auction headers, because you own the
word meteorite ,too?

BE
- Original Message -
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:59 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions


 Dear List,

 To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you
 can check out for yourself.  Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA
 numbers we reserved and paid for the study of,  he is actually copying our
 descriptions, word-for-word.  Bob, these descriptions are the property of
 Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS!


 Our Description and ebay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957
 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private
hands,
 found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A weight of only 312 grams is recorded
for
 this find.  NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the
 public weighed a mere 49 grams.  After cutting losses and type specimen
 deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private
hands
 including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest
 sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta.   A great deal of time was
 spent preparing this material.  We used a penetrant stabilizer before
 polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked
during
 polishing.  This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are
 easily fractured during preparation.  No less than 10 polishing steps on a
 diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish,
 something you do not see everyday.  This material is rarer than a
 Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite.  Even though this is number
 two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private
hands,
 there is nothing rarer!


 Bobs stolen description and link to auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593
 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This  is the second rare
 Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A
 weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find.  NWA 1459 is the only
 other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49
grams.
 After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220
grams
 of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material
is
 believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid
 Vesta. This  material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a
 Lodranite.  NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in
private
 hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for
 any serious or new meteorite collector !

 Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen
 several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud.
Check
 out his other auctions and compare.

 All the best,

 Adam Hupe






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Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions

2004-09-12 Thread David Freeman
Now boys, isn't this become a bit unsavory?
Bob, can't come up with any original description huh?
I always buy from sellers in turmoil, how about the rest of the List?
Makes me miss Michael Casper!! RR The Captain's our 
sailin' the Caribbean!

Any IMCA comments? ;-)
Dave F.

Comcast Mail wrote:
Whats next ? Adam
I cant use the word meteorite in my auction headers, because you own the
word meteorite ,too?
BE
- Original Message -
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:59 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions

Dear List,
To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you
can check out for yourself.  Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA
numbers we reserved and paid for the study of,  he is actually copying our
descriptions, word-for-word.  Bob, these descriptions are the property of
Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS!
Our Description and ebay link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957
NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private
hands,
found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A weight of only 312 grams is recorded
for
this find.  NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the
public weighed a mere 49 grams.  After cutting losses and type specimen
deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private
hands
including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest
sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta.   A great deal of time was
spent preparing this material.  We used a penetrant stabilizer before
polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked
during
polishing.  This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are
easily fractured during preparation.  No less than 10 polishing steps on a
diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish,
something you do not see everyday.  This material is rarer than a
Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite.  Even though this is number
two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private
hands,
there is nothing rarer!
Bobs stolen description and link to auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593
This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This  is the second rare
Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A
weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find.  NWA 1459 is the only
other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49
grams.
After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220
grams
of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material
is
believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid
Vesta. This  material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a
Lodranite.  NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in
private
hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for
any serious or new meteorite collector !
Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen
several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud.
Check
out his other auctions and compare.
All the best,
Adam Hupe


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions

2004-09-12 Thread Comcast Mail
Dave,

Do you know how long before the ebay desciptions police come to get me?

Im sorry but youve got to look at Adams emails and laugh.
Besides its Sunday night and theres nothing on TV more entertaining than
this.

Goodnight all

Bob E.
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From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cc: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions


 Now boys, isn't this become a bit unsavory?

 Bob, can't come up with any original description huh?

 I always buy from sellers in turmoil, how about the rest of the List?

 Makes me miss Michael Casper!! RR The Captain's our
 sailin' the Caribbean!


 Any IMCA comments? ;-)

 Dave F.




 Comcast Mail wrote:

 Whats next ? Adam
 
 I cant use the word meteorite in my auction headers, because you own
the
 word meteorite ,too?
 
 BE
 - Original Message -
 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:59 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
 
 
 Dear List,
 
 To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example
you
 can check out for yourself.  Bob took it upon himself not only to use
NWA
 numbers we reserved and paid for the study of,  he is actually copying
our
 descriptions, word-for-word.  Bob, these descriptions are the property
of
 Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS!
 
 
 Our Description and ebay link:
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957
 
 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private
 
 hands,
 
 found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A weight of only 312 grams is recorded
 
 for
 
 this find.  NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the
 public weighed a mere 49 grams.  After cutting losses and type specimen
 deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private
 
 hands
 
 including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest
 sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta.   A great deal of time
was
 spent preparing this material.  We used a penetrant stabilizer before
 polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked
 
 during
 
 polishing.  This is important because the crystals have cleavages that
are
 easily fractured during preparation.  No less than 10 polishing steps on
a
 diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish,
 something you do not see everyday.  This material is rarer than a
 Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite.  Even though this is
number
 two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private
 
 hands,
 
 there is nothing rarer!
 
 
 Bobs stolen description and link to auction:
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593
 
 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This  is the second rare
 Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A
 weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find.  NWA 1459 is the
only
 other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49
 
 grams.
 
 After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220
 
 grams
 
 of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material
 
 is
 
 believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the
asteroid
 Vesta. This  material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even
a
 Lodranite.  NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in
 
 private
 
 hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have
for
 any serious or new meteorite collector !
 
 Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen
 several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud.
 
 Check
 
 out his other auctions and compare.
 
 All the best,
 
 Adam Hupe
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions

2004-09-12 Thread stan .
Just FYI -
your ebay description for nwa 1877 is inaccurate. nwa 1459 is not the only 
other olivine diogenite avalible for sale to the public - there is also nwa 
2115 - with a tkw of about 2x of the other two combined...


From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:59:07 -0700
Dear List,
To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you
can check out for yourself.  Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA
numbers we reserved and paid for the study of,  he is actually copying our
descriptions, word-for-word.  Bob, these descriptions are the property of
Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS!
Our Description and ebay link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957
NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private 
hands,
found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for
this find.  NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the
public weighed a mere 49 grams.  After cutting losses and type specimen
deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private 
hands
including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest
sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta.   A great deal of time was
spent preparing this material.  We used a penetrant stabilizer before
polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked 
during
polishing.  This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are
easily fractured during preparation.  No less than 10 polishing steps on a
diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish,
something you do not see everyday.  This material is rarer than a
Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite.  Even though this is number
two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private 
hands,
there is nothing rarer!

Bobs stolen description and link to auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593
This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This  is the second rare
Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A
weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find.  NWA 1459 is the only
other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49 
grams.
After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 
grams
of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is
believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid
Vesta. This  material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a
Lodranite.  NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in 
private
hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for
any serious or new meteorite collector !

Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen
several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud.  
Check
out his other auctions and compare.

All the best,
Adam Hupe


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions

2004-09-12 Thread Adam Hupe
Stan,

For your information NWA 2115 has not been published yet in the Meteoritical
Bulletin.  There is no doubt it will become official as all of the proper
steps have been taken to make it so.  It is up to scientists to prove a
pairing between the two but I do not doubt a pairing relationship between
1877 and 2115.  I have no problem with this because proper steps were taken.

All the best,

Adam

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 Just FYI -
 your ebay description for nwa 1877 is inaccurate. nwa 1459 is not the only
 other olivine diogenite avalible for sale to the public - there is also
nwa
 2115 - with a tkw of about 2x of the other two combined...



 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:59:07 -0700
 
 Dear List,
 
 To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example
you
 can check out for yourself.  Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA
 numbers we reserved and paid for the study of,  he is actually copying
our
 descriptions, word-for-word.  Bob, these descriptions are the property of
 Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS!
 
 
 Our Description and ebay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957
 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private
 hands,
 found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A weight of only 312 grams is recorded
for
 this find.  NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the
 public weighed a mere 49 grams.  After cutting losses and type specimen
 deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private
 hands
 including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest
 sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta.   A great deal of time
was
 spent preparing this material.  We used a penetrant stabilizer before
 polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked
 during
 polishing.  This is important because the crystals have cleavages that
are
 easily fractured during preparation.  No less than 10 polishing steps on
a
 diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish,
 something you do not see everyday.  This material is rarer than a
 Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite.  Even though this is
number
 two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private
 hands,
 there is nothing rarer!
 
 
 Bobs stolen description and link to auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593
 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This  is the second rare
 Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa.  A
 weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find.  NWA 1459 is the only
 other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49
 grams.
 After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220
 grams
 of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material
is
 believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the
asteroid
 Vesta. This  material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a
 Lodranite.  NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in
 private
 hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for
 any serious or new meteorite collector !
 
 Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen
 several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud.
 Check
 out his other auctions and compare.
 
 All the best,
 
 Adam Hupe
 
 
 
 
 
 
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