Re: [MIRROR] [tdf-mirrors] downloading issues

2013-05-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
It seems like there is an issue when using standard http. Using jdownloader
I get almost full download speed.


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
wrote:

> it doesnt make sense other downloads work just fine. I will try give my
> router and modem a restart and see if that helps.
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Enrico Cavalli wrote:
>
>>
>> Il giorno 16/mag/2013, alle ore 11:45, Jonathan Aquilina <
>> eagles051...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>> Are you guys throttling your mirrors? the speeds start out good and then
>> they slow to a crawl.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MIRROR] [tdf-mirrors] downloading issues

2013-05-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Enrico Cavalli wrote:

> Hello we are not aware of particular issues at the moment.
>
> I suppose it should be a local issue. Have you tried other downloads from
> our mirrors?
>
> http://mirror1.mirror.garr.it/mirrors
> http://mirror2.mirror.garr.it/mirrors
> http://mirror3.mirror.garr.it/mirrors
>
> Do they have the same issues? Test in particular with mirror3 (mirror1 and
> mirror2 are in the same POP which is having issues with you)
>
> Enrico What is the exact directory I should look in?

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] downloading issues

2013-05-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Same issue :( Florian the mirror slows down to a crawl. It only happens
when downloading from that mirror. Other things download at maximum speed
for me which is 2.3 Mbps this is under 100kbps and drops lower then that.


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Florian Effenberger <
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> Hi,
>
> Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-16 08:28:
>
>  I am based on the island of Malta and this mirror seems to be the closest
>> to me.
>>
>> http://libreoffice.mirror.**garr.it/mirrors/tdf/**
>> libreoffice/stable/4.0.3/win/**x86/LibreOffice_4.0.3_Win_x86.**msi<http://libreoffice.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/tdf/libreoffice/stable/4.0.3/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.3_Win_x86.msi>
>>
>> I am trying to download 4.0.3 and it gets to about 12 mb downloaded and
>> then just grinds to a halt. is the mirror having any issues?
>>
>
> I just tried, and it seems to work fine. Can you try it again? I assume
> the problem is on your end (or rather your ISP's) if the problem still
> persists.
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[tdf-mirrors] downloading issues

2013-05-15 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I am based on the island of Malta and this mirror seems to be the closest
to me.

http://libreoffice.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/tdf/libreoffice/stable/4.0.3/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.3_Win_x86.msi

I am trying to download 4.0.3 and it gets to about 12 mb downloaded and
then just grinds to a halt. is the mirror having any issues?

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-04 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Florian question wouldnt it be better in terms of the board list that its
moderated by a few board members. I am willing though to help moderate
discuss and if need be mirrors as well.


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> at the moment, we are looking for volunteers who could help moderate this
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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Searching for infrastructure sponsors

2012-11-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I have a server at hetzner 16gb of ram and 2x3tb hdd's the problem is the
bandwidth its 100Mbps connectivity.

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> Hi,
>
> Sean McNamara wrote on 2012-10-31 14:26:
>
>
>  A system with almost exactly these specs can be rented affordably,
>> month to month, from Hetzner in Germany. I'm not sure if you were
>> directly citing their specifications when you wrote this up, but it
>> happens to be exactly matching one of their offerings (with an added
>> cost for the 1 Gbit/s bandwidth).
>>
>
> we indeed are customers of Hetzner. Not exclusively, but with a majority
> of our machines. However, in times of growing demands, that will result in
> growing costs, I thought that asking for some sponsors might be helpful. :)
>
>
>  One idea would be to have volunteers make a commitment to pay a
>> fraction of the server bill on a monthly basis, and pool money to rent
>> servers this way. If you need wide geographic distribution then the
>>
>
> That sounds like a good "plan B". We are drafting "wishlists" from the
> various teams (like the marketing team which would like to have collaterals
> printed), so people can see what they donate for. It is definitely an
> option to list infra costs there as well, should our call for sponsoring
> yield no results.
>
>
>  number of servers you can have is less, because costs are much higher
>> in places such as the U.S. and certain parts of Asia. You may be able
>> to get a discount for being a non-profit entity, depending on the
>> provider's policies.
>>
>
> Indeed, it seems that in Germany, hosting is cheap compared to other parts
> of the world. I was quite surprised when I learned e.g. how expensive it is
> in South America.
>
> Thanks for your proposals, much appreciated!
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Re: [tdf-mirrors] slow mirror at http://libreoffice.mirror.garr.it/

2012-08-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Turns out rebooting my router sorted the problem :( turns out the bottle 
neck was there. I am wondering if i should leave its IPSec features 
enabled. One huge advantage of them being on it blocks all sorts of 
security attacks from viruses to Dos/DDos attacks and much more


On 17/08/2012 12:30, Erich Christian wrote:

Hi,

Am 17.08.2012 12:18, schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:

On 17/08/2012 10:43, Riccardo Losselli wrote:

Try also from the E4A mirror (the server is in Milan), just to double
check if it's a connectivity issue to Italy..

How can i choose which mirror to download from on the main site?

Click the 'info' link next to Torrent right on the download button to
display all details.

Cheers
Erich





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Re: [tdf-mirrors] slow mirror at http://libreoffice.mirror.garr.it/

2012-08-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I just tried a german mirror to make sure it wasnt only the Italian 
servers and I am starting to think that my router and modem need to be 
rebooted. I will try that out and report if that solves the issue.


Out of curiosity what Kind of bandwidth would one need to host a mirror?

On 17/08/2012 10:55, Dave Barton wrote:

The download test I ran was on a Win 7 x64 box.

 Original Message  
From: Jonathan Aquilina 
To: mirrors@documentfoundation.org
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:22:09 +0200


I have not tried on one of my mac's, but this is a windows machine that
im on right now. I am downloading stuff off of you tube just fine no
speed issues. I am down in Malta oddly enough it only seems to happen
with this mirror. linux vm's seem to be fine as well.

Does anyone have a windows 7 64bit to try test the download and see if
its just an issue with windows 7 networking somewhere.

On 17/08/2012 10:10, Dave Barton wrote:

 Original Message  ----
From: Jonathan Aquilina 
To: mirrors@documentfoundation.org
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:18:53 +0200


Hey guys

I am trying to download the latest installer from the site and the speed
starts out fine and slows down to a crawl and eventually the download
gets terminated. Is there a problem with the above mirror?

Hi Jonathan,

I am about an hour north of Milano, with a connection that will not win
any speed awards and Garr is my preferred mirror. I have recently
encountered problems with validation check on updates for my Linux
distro, but download speeds are not an issue for me. I have just tested
by re-downloading LO Win 3.6 from Garr  and the speed was consistent for
the whole ~10 minute download. Maybe you have a local connection issue.
Sorry I can't be of more help.

Dave











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Re: [tdf-mirrors] slow mirror at http://libreoffice.mirror.garr.it/

2012-08-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 17/08/2012 10:43, Riccardo Losselli wrote:

Il 17/08/2012 10:39, Jonathan Aquilina ha scritto:

Will try and reset my router and modem and see if that helps any. But
what I am finding odd is why just this server and not downloading
anything else



Try also from the E4A mirror (the server is in Milan), just to double 
check if it's a connectivity issue to Italy..

Cheers,
Ricky


How can i choose which mirror to download from on the main site?

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] slow mirror at http://libreoffice.mirror.garr.it/

2012-08-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Will try and reset my router and modem and see if that helps any. But 
what I am finding odd is why just this server and not downloading 
anything else



On 17/08/2012 10:29, Riccardo Losselli wrote:

Il 17/08/2012 10:22, Jonathan Aquilina ha scritto:

I have not tried on one of my mac's, but this is a windows machine that
im on right now. I am downloading stuff off of you tube just fine no
speed issues. I am down in Malta oddly enough it only seems to happen
with this mirror. linux vm's seem to be fine as well.

Does anyone have a windows 7 64bit to try test the download and see if
its just an issue with windows 7 networking somewhere.



Hi Jonathan, just tried from a win7 machine the same file i tested 
before on linux and sent you the result.

It came down at full speed allowed by the connection (16mbps).
Cheers,
Ricky




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Re: [tdf-mirrors] slow mirror at http://libreoffice.mirror.garr.it/

2012-08-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I have not tried on one of my mac's, but this is a windows machine that 
im on right now. I am downloading stuff off of you tube just fine no 
speed issues. I am down in Malta oddly enough it only seems to happen 
with this mirror. linux vm's seem to be fine as well.


Does anyone have a windows 7 64bit to try test the download and see if 
its just an issue with windows 7 networking somewhere.


On 17/08/2012 10:10, Dave Barton wrote:

 Original Message  ----
From: Jonathan Aquilina 
To: mirrors@documentfoundation.org
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:18:53 +0200


Hey guys

I am trying to download the latest installer from the site and the speed
starts out fine and slows down to a crawl and eventually the download
gets terminated. Is there a problem with the above mirror?


Hi Jonathan,

I am about an hour north of Milano, with a connection that will not win
any speed awards and Garr is my preferred mirror. I have recently
encountered problems with validation check on updates for my Linux
distro, but download speeds are not an issue for me. I have just tested
by re-downloading LO Win 3.6 from Garr  and the speed was consistent for
the whole ~10 minute download. Maybe you have a local connection issue.
Sorry I can't be of more help.

Dave






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Re: [MIRROR] [tdf-mirrors] slow mirror at http://libreoffice.mirror.garr.it/

2012-08-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Thanks for the quick response Enrico, hopefully its nothing too serious.

On 17/08/2012 09:35, cava...@cilea.it wrote:

Hello i manage that mirror. I'm not well connected at the moment. I do not have 
any indication of particular anomalies on our mirror infrastructure

I'll have a look as soon as possibile

Regards,
Enrico

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Il giorno 17/ago/2012, alle ore 09:20, Jonathan Aquilina 
 ha scritto:


Hey guys

I am trying to download the latest installer from the site and the speed starts 
out fine and slows down to a crawl and eventually the download gets terminated. 
Is there a problem with the above mirror?

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[tdf-mirrors] slow mirror at http://libreoffice.mirror.garr.it/

2012-08-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Hey guys

I am trying to download the latest installer from the site and the speed 
starts out fine and slows down to a crawl and eventually the download 
gets terminated. Is there a problem with the above mirror?


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[tdf-mirrors] Suggestion

2012-06-22 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
When one clicks download The user should be able to choose a mirror that 
is closest to them if there are multiple mirrors that are geographically 
close to the user, or if there is a way to detect a bogged down server 
which is recieving lots of downloads, when the download button is 
pressed could an alternative mirror be automatically chosen.


the mirror I downloaded form was an italian one gerrit.it mirror and I 
noticed 1 thing.


First attempt at downloading i was getting speeds of about 18kbps. I 
cancelled the download and restarted again and it started at 780kbps and 
started slowing down. I have included the mirrors list in this email too.


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] How much space is needed

2012-05-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Lai Chen

Thanks for your quick response, but out of curiosity what exactly are you 
mirroring?


Regards
Jonathan Aquilina

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> Hi Jonathan,
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> On my mirror, it is 35GB. Hope this help. :-)
> 
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Jonathan Aquilina 
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>> Out of curiosity how much space is needed for a mirror. I have two small
>> virtual servers and I would like to provide the installers for download via
>> my business website. Could you please tell me how much space I would need
>> for the mac windows and linux installers.
>> 
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>> Regards
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[tdf-mirrors] How much space is needed

2012-05-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Out of curiosity how much space is needed for a mirror. I have two small 
virtual servers and I would like to provide the installers for download via my 
business website. Could you please tell me how much space I would need for the 
mac windows and linux installers.


Regards
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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirror issues

2012-03-31 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Miguel what I meant was my home network, my apologies for being vague, 
luckily all attacks get stopped at my router, but I get quite a large 
number of attempted attacks.


On 31/03/2012 14:17, Miguel Bouzada wrote:

Can influence the server mirror.galpon.org/tdf is embedded in the core of the
fiber network's most powerful continent and our bandwidth is 5 GB?

2012/3/31 Jonathan Aquilina


Understood. Must have been getting DoS or DDosed or somethign when i was
trying to download it.


On 31/03/2012 14:12, Florian Effenberger wrote:


Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-03-31 14:09:


Then how come due to my geoIP i was offered a spanish mirror?


as I said: It is based on the bandwith of the mirrors and the net
location of the ASNs. It is *not* solely based on geographical issues.
E.g., for me here in southern Germany, a mirror in Switzerland, Austria or
even in the UK might be much faster and better than one in northern Germany.

Florian



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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirror issues

2012-03-31 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Understood. Must have been getting DoS or DDosed or somethign when i was 
trying to download it.


On 31/03/2012 14:12, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-03-31 14:09:

Then how come due to my geoIP i was offered a spanish mirror?


as I said: It is based on the bandwith of the mirrors and the net 
location of the ASNs. It is *not* solely based on geographical issues. 
E.g., for me here in southern Germany, a mirror in Switzerland, 
Austria or even in the UK might be much faster and better than one in 
northern Germany.


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirror issues

2012-03-31 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Then how come due to my geoIP i was offered a spanish mirror?

On 31/03/2012 14:08, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-03-31 13:51:

Are there any italian mirrors?


yes, quite a few :) 
http://download.documentfoundation.org/mirrors/mirmon/#it


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirror issues

2012-03-31 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Are there any italian mirrors?

On 31/03/2012 13:40, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-03-31 13:24:

What exactly do you mean by peerings. For instance here in Malta, we
have 3 fiber lines but all passing through scicily and main land italy.
IMHO it would make sense on geographic ip address location that will
then be used to determine the closest mirror.


I am talking about ASNs and GeoIP :-)

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirror issues

2012-03-31 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
What exactly do you mean by peerings. For instance here in Malta, we 
have 3 fiber lines but all passing through scicily and main land italy. 
IMHO it would make sense on geographic ip address location that will 
then be used to determine the closest mirror.


On 31/03/2012 13:20, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-03-31 13:18:

Will try it again, but on another not though why granted im based in
malta is it giving me a mirror in spain are there no italian mirrors
that are mirroring LO?


our download system chooses the mirror that best fits your net 
location. This is not necessarily in the same country, because it also 
depends on your ISP's peerings and other parameters. ;-)


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirror issues

2012-03-31 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Will try it again, but on another not though why granted im based in 
malta is it giving me a mirror in spain are there no italian mirrors 
that are mirroring LO?


On 31/03/2012 12:59, Miguel Bouzada wrote:

I gather that galapon.org is galpon.org

We did several tests download from:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86&lang=gl&version=3.5.1
passing through mirror.galpon.org/tdf
average download rate 1.1 MB
average download time<3 minutes

Miguel A. Bouzada
responsible for http://mirror.galpon.org/tdf/
view:
http://mirror.galpon.org/awstats/awstats.pl?config=mirror
http://download.documentfoundation.org/mirrors/mirmon/#es

2012/3/30 Jonathan Aquilina


Hey guys I am trying to download 3.5.1 and i was wondering if anyone was
having the following issue.

I was trying to download the windows msi installer through internet
explorer, and it had me download it from the galapon.org mirror but for
some reason the download stalled and never completed.

Tried it on mac this time via the safari browser and it looks like it
didnt take me to a mirror at all, or at least i couldnt tell. but is there
a problem with bandwidth or traffic to the download servers?

Tried it a 2nd time and it seems to be downloading.


Regards

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2012-03-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
seems like the speed is dropping to the point where there is virtually 
no downloading happening what so ever.


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[tdf-mirrors] Mirror issues

2012-03-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Hey guys I am trying to download 3.5.1 and i was wondering if anyone was 
having the following issue.


I was trying to download the windows msi installer through internet 
explorer, and it had me download it from the galapon.org mirror but for 
some reason the download stalled and never completed.


Tried it on mac this time via the safari browser and it looks like it 
didnt take me to a mirror at all, or at least i couldnt tell. but is 
there a problem with bandwidth or traffic to the download servers?


Tried it a 2nd time and it seems to be downloading.


Regards

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] How do download statistic work for bittorrent downloads?

2012-03-12 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 12/03/2012 17:57, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:

Hi Jonathan, *,


Am 12.03.2012 17:27 schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:

On 12/03/2012 17:02, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:

I'm about to participate distributing the DVD ISO files via bittorrent
on my private Server.
I wonder how those downloads are tracked for the downlaod statistic.
What is the recommended way to get the torrent files up to date:
- Downloading them via wget?
- Syncing them via rsync?
Does any of the above have side effects for the statistics?



I dont know if there is an automatic way to do it but it involves one
making the torrent, you need to add a tracker etc

All this is done. You can download the torrent files via the download
page:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

either click "Torrent" of each file or, if You want to seed all files,
click "Info" at the same place which shows all relevant info for the
file including hashes to check integrity. Also shown in the browsers
address line is the path of the file in the distribution file system.


and get people seeding it. If you put together a torrent I am more
then willing to help by seeding.

So the question is *how* to get the files for seeding rather than *if*
so.

My question was about the preferred way of syncing to get the recent
files - the one without bad impact for the statistics.

Gruß/regards
My apologies on my misunderstanding. Was not aware that torrents were 
easily available :) but I am more then glad to help seed such a great 
project :).


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] How do download statistic work for bittorrent downloads?

2012-03-12 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 12/03/2012 17:02, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:

Hi all,

I'm about to participate distributing the DVD ISO files via bittorrent
on my private Server.

I wonder how those downloads are tracked for the downlaod statistic.

What is the recommended way to get the torrent files up to date:

- Downloading them via wget?
- Syncing them via rsync?

Does any of the above have side effects for the statistics?



Gruß/regards
I dont know if there is an automatic way to do it but it involves one 
making the torrent, you need to add a tracker etc and get people seeding 
it. If you put together a torrent I am more then willing to help by seeding.


Regards

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice: Dubious download behavior LO on Windows/IE ?

2011-10-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 30/10/2011 14:15, Riccardo Losselli wrote:

Thank you, Ricky,
But my internet connection is over IPv4 only, no IPv6 yet.
So I suppose that eliminates that explanation for the issue that I
experience with the Supportex mirror.


May be not... depending on what is your windows version it may try to 
use some v6 to v4 translation mechanism (like Teredo) even if you 
never asked it to.. simple check, of your connection is v4 only and 
don't need v6 at all go into the network properties and disable ipv6, 
then try again.


PS: i just tried on 7 with ipv6 enabled - i do have v6 connectivity 
though - and can reproduce your issue. It waits for some time (10 
seconds, 20 seconds or so), than start downloading, and it's because 
of v6 unreachability of the site.




v6 wont work unless the server supports it as well.

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice: Dubious download behavior LO on Windows/IE ?

2011-10-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 30/10/2011 15:04, Spiff wrote:

Thanks, Ricky/Riccardo,

As my internet connection was (and still is) IPv4 only, I disabled IPv6 in
Windows network properties, years ago.
Some minutes ago I enabled it to test the Supportex mirror download, to see
if it made any difference.
Then I disabled it and tested again (both times Vista with IE9).
No difference.
Both times it took about three minutes(!!) for the Internet Explorer
download manager popup to appear, offering to Run/Save/Cancel the download.
This while trying any other mirror the Internet Explorer download manager
appears instantly(!)
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.4.3/win/x86/LibO_3.4.3_Win_x86_install_multi.exe.mirrorlist
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It is most likely the internet connection the mirror is on or its 
getting swamped with requests probably. I am inclined to say that the 
NIC is the bottle neck. I bet that it is most likely a 100 Mbit network 
card which is bottled necked with requests.


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] TDF mirror rsync connection limit

2011-08-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 8/5/11 4:42 PM, Thorsten Behrens wrote:

Carlos Carvalho wrote:

  >I just raised the maximum connections to 20. Let's see how the machine

@ERROR: max connections (5) reached -- try again later


Sorry, that was me. Machine was under heavy load again, we'll come
up with an alternative solution.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

Was just thinking here. Does the server use a load balancer of some sort 
as well as multiple NIC's?


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] TDF mirror rsync connection limit

2011-08-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 8/5/11 5:44 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2011-08-05 16:42:

Sorry, that was me. Machine was under heavy load again, we'll come
up with an alternative solution.


sorry that I missed to notify you. Indeed, we need to move the 
mirroring system to another machine in order to not interfere with 
other services. It needs to be a stronger machine, solely doing rsync 
services, plus we maybe should look into some tiered mirroring system 
to distribute the load.


Give us a few days to investigate and react - sorry for the 
inconveniences!


Florian

If you need a system asap let me know and i can get the TDF a quote from 
where i work on monday.


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] disk space alocation

2011-03-03 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 3/3/11 10:11 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-03-03 06.55:

Give or take what is the minimum necessary amount of space required?
about 30 gb? Also though is it necessary to sync all the languages? can
one just sync the local language if its supported and the main english
language?


about 11-14 GB are needed now. If that size is ok for you, it would be 
great if you could sync all languages, of course. :-)


Florian

that wont be a problem. right now i am waiting to discuss possible 
relocation of my server to the data center im workign at and then will 
proceed from there :)


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] disk space alocation

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 3/2/11 9:19 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Thorsten fixed the problem, and after re-syncing, 3.3.0 should be 
moved out of stable, saving you ~11 GB.


Florian

Give or take what is the minimum necessary amount of space required? 
about 30 gb? Also though is it necessary to sync all the languages? can 
one just sync the local language if its supported and the main english 
language?


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] disk space alocation

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 3/2/11 6:59 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Laurent Caillat-Vallet wrote on 2011-03-02 18.45:


I rsync'ing from rsync.documentfoundation.org:

$ rsync rsync.documentfoundation.org::tdf-pub/libreoffice/stable/
drwxr-xr-x4096 2011/02/23 09:12:33 .
drwxr-xr-x4096 2011/01/24 13:12:27 3.3.0
drwxr-xr-x4096 2011/02/23 09:13:33 3.3.1

There are 2 releases here.


indeed - you are right, du didn't take the hardlink into account. I 
will clarify and try to resolve that soon, IMHO 3.3.0 should go into 
the old tree, which is not synced, and thus should save 11 GB per 
mirror. :)


Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Florian


No problem florian i think that happened totally by chance

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[tdf-mirrors] disk space alocation

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Florian do you mind giving me an accurate amount of space, as this is 
getting rather confusing. how come stable is so big? do all the mirrors 
need to mirror all languages?


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] disk space alocation

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 3/2/11 5:53 PM, Elton Chung wrote:

The size of /stable should be 22G instead of 11G as reported from my server.
And the total space occupied for the whole libreoffice tree is 25G

2.7G box
119M portable
623M src
22G stable
232K testing
25G total

Elton

That honestly seems more reasonable. thanks for clarifying this, as I am 
actually considering setting up my own mirror once i relocate my server 
to the data center im working at.


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] disk space alocation

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 3/2/11 4:59 PM, Thomas Müller wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:24:58 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

On 3/2/11 3:30 PM, Laurent Caillat-Vallet wrote:

Hello,

On 03/02/2011 03:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote :

Thomas Müller wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:48:13 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

How much disk space is needed to host a mirror?


  Currently you'll need  something like 45GB.


I'm not (or not yet!) maintaining a mirror, but these figures seems to
diverge too much from official Document Foundation announcements,
stating that only 11 GBytes are needed:

http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/01/25/the-document-foundation-launches-libreoffice-3-3/ 




If we need more than four times that space to setup a mirror, then the
announcement is inaccurate or at least incomplete... Is 45 GBytes the
right figure then?


That's more like about 11 GB per release:

12G/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.3.0
11G/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.3.1



Regards,

Right now my reaction is WTF what is taking up that much space O_o


I really wonder what rsync is reporting?

Let's see what the filesystem says:


du -h

2.7G./box/3.3.0
2.7G./box
119M./portable/3.3.0
119M./portable
1.8G./stable/3.3.0/mac/ppc
192M./stable/3.3.0/mac/x86
2.0G./stable/3.3.0/mac
1.9G./stable/3.3.0/rpm/x86_64
1.9G./stable/3.3.0/rpm/x86
3.7G./stable/3.3.0/rpm
1.9G./stable/3.3.0/win/x86
1.9G./stable/3.3.0/win
1.9G./stable/3.3.0/deb/x86_64
1.9G./stable/3.3.0/deb/x86
3.7G./stable/3.3.0/deb
12G./stable/3.3.0
1.7G./stable/3.3.1/mac/ppc
192M./stable/3.3.1/mac/x86
1.9G./stable/3.3.1/mac
1.8G./stable/3.3.1/rpm/x86_64
1.8G./stable/3.3.1/rpm/x86
3.5G./stable/3.3.1/rpm
1.8G./stable/3.3.1/win/x86
1.8G./stable/3.3.1/win
1.8G./stable/3.3.1/deb/x86_64
1.8G./stable/3.3.1/deb/x86
3.5G./stable/3.3.1/deb
11G./stable/3.3.1
22G./stable
20K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/mac/ppc
20K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/mac/x86
44K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/mac
44K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/rpm/x86_64
36K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/rpm/x86
84K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/rpm
20K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/win/x86
24K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/win
40K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/deb/x86_64
36K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/deb/x86
80K./testing/3.3.1-rc2/deb
236K./testing/3.3.1-rc2
240K./testing
623M./src
25G.

Take care,

Thomas

Instead of mirroring all the languages is it possible to mirror one 
language and the local language if there is localization for the local 
language?


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] disk space alocation

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 3/2/11 3:30 PM, Laurent Caillat-Vallet wrote:

Hello,

On 03/02/2011 03:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote :

Thomas Müller wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:48:13 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

How much disk space is needed to host a mirror?


  Currently you'll need  something like 45GB.


I'm not (or not yet!) maintaining a mirror, but these figures seems to
diverge too much from official Document Foundation announcements,
stating that only 11 GBytes are needed:
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/01/25/the-document-foundation-launches-libreoffice-3-3/ 



If we need more than four times that space to setup a mirror, then the
announcement is inaccurate or at least incomplete... Is 45 GBytes the
right figure then?


That's more like about 11 GB per release:

12G/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.3.0
11G/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.3.1



Regards,

Right now my reaction is WTF what is taking up that much space O_o

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[tdf-mirrors] disk space alocation

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

How much disk space is needed to host a mirror?

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirroring DVD/CD ISO files

2011-01-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 1/26/11 9:46 PM, "Dr. Peter Pöml" wrote:

Hi,

Am 26.01.2011 um 09:45 schrieb Christian Rohmann:

Good morning

On 01/26/2011 09:13 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

For the DVD's why not instead of pulling them to the mirrors offer them
as torrents?

1) To lower the bar for ppl to install LibreOffce I'd not JUST do
torrent. Most endusers prefer a click to download something, sometimes a
firewall/proxy even forbids anything else but HTTP downloads.

Right so!


2) If torrents are done, they could be backed by a few high bandwidth
webservers (mirrors then) via http seeds. This would always give you
quite fast downloads and still saves some bandwidth on the mirrors.

Torrents automatically exist for all files offered on 
download.documentfoundation.org. The content distribution network (MirrorBrain) 
takes care of this automatically. Furthermore, all mirrors which have the files 
are automatically included as HTTP seeds in the torrents. (To be precise, not 
all mirrors, just the 10 (or so) closest ones :-)


3) With adaption of LibreOffice from more and more Linux distros the
direct downloads will then go to the package repos of those distros.

4) Currently I don't see much bandwith from tdf though ... why not worry
about it if one can see results from changes (like introducing torrents
when there are LOTS of big downloads from DVD-ISOs). Also the use of
mirrorbrain sends users to the "closest" mirror, so it's not traffic
being sent around the world all the time.

I'm sure the traffic will increase in the future :-)

Peter
No doubt the traffic will increase, hence the suggestion to have them 
provided from now.


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirroring DVD/CD ISO files

2011-01-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 1/26/11 9:54 AM, Christian Rohmann wrote:

Hey Jonathan,

On 01/26/2011 09:48 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

Christian would torrents eventually be offered once traffic increases?

I'm just a mirror admin myself ... it's just, if you throw in 2 cents,
you'll get my opinion on things ;-)


Regards

Christian


I know. All im saying is that they should not be ruled out all together.

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirroring DVD/CD ISO files

2011-01-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 1/26/11 9:45 AM, Christian Rohmann wrote:

Good morning

On 01/26/2011 09:13 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

For the DVD's why not instead of pulling them to the mirrors offer them
as torrents?

1) To lower the bar for ppl to install LibreOffce I'd not JUST do
torrent. Most endusers prefer a click to download something, sometimes a
firewall/proxy even forbids anything else but HTTP downloads.

2) If torrents are done, they could be backed by a few high bandwidth
webservers (mirrors then) via http seeds. This would always give you
quite fast downloads and still saves some bandwidth on the mirrors.

3) With adaption of LibreOffice from more and more Linux distros the
direct downloads will then go to the package repos of those distros.

4) Currently I don't see much bandwith from tdf though ... why not worry
about it if one can see results from changes (like introducing torrents
when there are LOTS of big downloads from DVD-ISOs). Also the use of
mirrorbrain sends users to the "closest" mirror, so it's not traffic
being sent around the world all the time.


Regards,

Christian


Christian would torrents eventually be offered once traffic increases?

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Re: [tdf-mirrors] Mirroring DVD/CD ISO files

2011-01-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 1/25/11 4:20 PM, Thorsten Guenther wrote:

Am 25.01.2011 15:56, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier:



For sites with less capacity, it might be preferred to keep the ISO
images in a separate subtree, easy to exclude.

That sounds reasonable and was what I thought about.
Having no clue how it works with mirrorbrain in detail, I'll proceed to
change that today. :o))


Hi!

Perhaps rsync-push should be limited to the core parts (eg. the 
/stable/ tree) where simultanous release is an issue. So mirror admins 
can choose to rsync-pull the other trees like /old/ and /DVD/.
Another solution would be to have differend kinds of "subscriptions" 
for rsync-push, but i guess this would be difficult to handle on the 
TDF side.


But perhaps this is not an issue at all, since everyone has enough 
space left to take it all. I do. ;-)


Regards
Thorsten


For the DVD's why not instead of pulling them to the mirrors offer them 
as torrents?


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Re: [tdf-mirrors] List of mirrors

2010-12-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Thanks for the clarification, and apologies for my misunderstanding.

On 12/5/10 4:35 PM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

2010.12.05 17:28, Jonathan Aquilina rašė:

On 12/5/10 4:12 PM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

2010.12.05 16:36, Jonathan Aquilina rašė:
When you say except ourselves who are you referring to? developers. 
end users who?


mirror admins.


I disagree with that Rimas. Even the end users would want a list of 
the mirrors as well. for instance what if someone wants to find a 
mirror close to them to download from whats going to be done then 
without a list?


What happens is:
1) MirrorBrain chooses the closest mirror automatically
2) If for some reason you want to choose a different mirror manually, 
there is an automatic mirror list for EACH FILE you may want to 
download. Like the one at 
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/win/x86/LibO_3.3.0_Win_x86_install_all_lang.exe.mirrorlist 
.


Does that solve your problem?

Rimas





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Re: [tdf-mirrors] List of mirrors

2010-12-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I disagree with that Rimas. Even the end users would want a list of the 
mirrors as well. for instance what if someone wants to find a mirror 
close to them to download from whats going to be done then without a list?


On 12/5/10 4:12 PM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

2010.12.05 16:36, Jonathan Aquilina rašė:
When you say except ourselves who are you referring to? developers. 
end users who?


mirror admins.

Rimas





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Re: [tdf-mirrors] List of mirrors

2010-12-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Rimas

When you say except ourselves who are you referring to? developers. end 
users who?


On 12/5/10 2:39 PM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

2010.12.05 12:32, Rainer Bielefeld rašė:

That's all rather unsatisfactory, I would like to have something like



If I remember correctly, Peter Poeml said it's possible to have a list 
generated automatically from the MirrorBrain database. I'd rather see 
us having that than manually maintaining a separate wiki or web page.


(And it's indeed possible: see 
http://download.services.openoffice.org/mirrors/all.html .)


On the other hand, I don't see who would actually care about that list 
(be its target audience), except ourselves. And I think we only care 
about it because we want to be listed there, so to me it seems like 
that page would basically exist just for its own sake, which is rather 
unjustified. Not that having an automatic listing would hurt though...


Rimas




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Re: [tdf-mirrors] List of mirrors

2010-12-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Since RC1 isn't public how is it on the mirrors. the mirrors should only 
contain stable releases. feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.


On 12/5/10 10:42 AM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

2010.12.05 10:31, Rainer Bielefeld rašė:

Hi,

do we have a list of all LibreOffice mirrors, so that we can check 
integrity of RC1 sets in time?


Best regards,

Rainer



We have per-file lists like this one:
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/win/x86/LibO_3.3.0_Win_x86_install_all_lang.exe.mirrorlist 



But since RC1 is not public yet, it seems you can't see the list for 
its files there. Peter should be able to help though.


Regards,
Rimas Kudelis




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Re: [tdf-mirrors] List of mirrors

2010-12-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Not sure about a mirrors list, but that would be a plus to have. Aren't 
any mirrors synced with a master server?


On 12/5/10 9:31 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

do we have a list of all LibreOffice mirrors, so that we can check 
integrity of RC1 sets in time?


Best regards,

Rainer




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[tdf-mirrors] hey

2010-11-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
hey guys i am willing to help setup a local mirror foe this great project.
also im starting my own IT business and i would like to contribute my IT
know how to the project in offering  various things including webhosting and
more. who would i need to contact

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