Re: relayd layer 7 http proxy and filtering questions
As a test, the URL or path filtering can allow /, *.html and *.jpg. We are unable to figure out how to get relayd to allow only these types of files, and deny any other access. Same question here as I was unable to find answers yet either, after studing the man pages, trial-and-error testing and finally looking at the source of relayd. But before giving up and returning to Pound, I was about to contact the authors (reyk@, pyr@) for guidance. Thus I'd be interested in any hints and working examples, too. Then, for one outcome, we might try to improve relayd's man page section about filtering. Thanks, Rolf
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
Hi, yes, I also thought of something similar, but the result is that gs produces slides which are not smooth, i.e. you can almost see the pixels. You can increase the resolution but this makes also the slides heavier and then you run into the same snag... Thanks Pau 2008/3/19, Alexandre Ratchov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:18:30PM +0100, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: Hi, very often I have to give a talk about my work etc... The slides contain a lot of math equations, plots and even sometimes some movies. I was used to latex-beamer to do all this because I want something I can edit with vi(m) and it fulfilled all requisites ... and I was used to it when I was using linux. I have switched to OpenBSD since some 1.5 years and I am very happy to report here, by the way, that OpenBSD _does_ start X on the projector where most linux peecees and macs fail :) BUT -and this is the main reason to write now- the pdf slides created with latex-beamer feel heavy... What I mean is that when using full screen (with xpdf or kpdf etc) it takes some 3-4 seconds to change a slide. I don't know why... I can provide you with a test talk, so that you udnerstand what I mean. This is very bad when somebody in the public asks a question of plot number 2 in slide #3 and you're in slide #55. Sure there are ways to overcome the problem, with the progress bar of latex-beamer, for instance, but still I don't like it. I just want to ask here in misc whether somebody has had the same problem and what other alternatives there are. yes i've the same problem, i've been using latex-beamer on a slow machine. To speedup the display, i converted the whole presentation to pnm images (one image per slide) and then made my presentation using graphics/qiv port. For instance, to generate the pnm files: gs -r248 -sDEVICE=pnmraw -sOutputFile=%d.ppm -dTextAlphaBits=4 \ -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dNOPAUSE doc.ps -c quit for i in ?.ppm; do mv $i 0$i done then to display them: qiv -f -i ??.ppm using space and backspace keys you can switch between slides very quickly even on a slow machine. Furthermore you can skip 5 slides using page-up and page-down keys, which is very handy when somebody asks you to go a particular slide. hth, -- Alexandre
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
On 22:18:30 Mar 18, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: Hi, very often I have to give a talk about my work etc... The slides contain a lot of math equations, plots and even sometimes some movies. I was used to latex-beamer to do all this because I want something I can edit with vi(m) and it fulfilled all requisites ... and I was used to it when I was using linux. I have switched to OpenBSD since some 1.5 years and I am very happy to report here, by the way, that OpenBSD _does_ start X on the projector where most linux peecees and macs fail :) BUT -and this is the main reason to write now- the pdf slides created with latex-beamer feel heavy... What I mean is that when using full screen (with xpdf or kpdf etc) it takes some 3-4 seconds to change a slide. I don't know why... I can provide you with a test talk, so that you udnerstand what I mean. This is very bad when somebody in the public asks a question of plot number 2 in slide #3 and you're in slide #55. Sure there are ways to overcome the problem, with the progress bar of latex-beamer, for instance, but still I don't like it. I just want to ask here in misc whether somebody has had the same problem and what other alternatives there are. I have noticed that a lot of people are using magicpoint out there. I had a look at it, but it seems not obvious to use when it comes to latex. As far as i know, there are these two possibilities: http://www.sonycsl.co.jp/person/nishida/mgp-users/msg00241.html http://www.sonycsl.co.jp/person/nishida/mgp-users/msg00290.html I have made some tests and I could not use all latex commands... I run into a snag in a number of occasions. Question: Do you have any recommendation / suggestion to prepare talks to be shown in a projector including mathematical equations, plots and, eventually, movies (I can live without this last point)? Wow! This is very interesting. ;) I am in the same boat as you but guess what? You got a lot of responses for the xpdf slowness problem and can you guess how I solved it? Of course you know that Acroread is not slow at all...that is my solution, not something I like though. What about evince? Evince is not slow either. xpdf is blazing fast on my gentoo. So it looks like there is something wrong with xpdf on OpenBSD. I have never played with apm(8), so I am not so sure what is to be done. As to mgp and LaTeX beamer, well I think there is no question. ;) mgp is quite painful since many people cannot get that running properly under linux and it never works on Windows. I find this a problem when I want to distribute the slides. And they are completely lifeless when you view the html... OTOH LaTeX Beamer is superb. But bear in mind that nowadays you have www.slideshare.net and I uploaded my jQuery talk and they completely fucked my slides. I think it converts it into flash and they have no clue what to do with slide overlays. Anyway I got some new ideas from this thread, that of trying out the seminar class and other LaTeX packages. Let me try my luck. As to scalable fonts, I have never had a problem with fonts breaking under xpdf. My slides invariably have pictures in them. It is just that xpdf gets angry when you view your slides in fullscreen. I have never seen the source of xpdf but it is in the back of my mind. If I get around to it, I want to fix whey xpdf is slow on OpenBSD but fast on gentoo. Or it might be that I have never played with apm. Anyway, -Girish -- unix soi qui mal y pense UNIX to him who evil thinks +--+ | GnuPG key : 0xC7BBF207 | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net| | Fingerprint: 2AFF C264 20CE C80C DDFF CC15 AD3E F190 C7BB F207 | +--+ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
Hi Predrag, I am mostly interested in the speed... do you have an example that I can see (send privately to me)? You say also that it's easy to add movies to the slides, can you embed them, actually? This would be very interesting. Pau 2008/3/19, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: Hi, very often I have to give a talk about my work etc... The slides contain a lot of math equations, plots and even sometimes some movies. I was used to latex-beamer to do all this because I want something I can edit with vi(m) and it fulfilled all requisites ... and I was used to it when I was using linux. I have switched to OpenBSD since some 1.5 years and I am very happy to report here, by the way, that OpenBSD _does_ start X on the projector where most linux peecees and macs fail :) BUT -and this is the main reason to write now- the pdf slides created with latex-beamer feel heavy... What I mean is that when using full screen (with xpdf or kpdf etc) it takes some 3-4 seconds to change a slide. I don't know why... I can provide you with a test talk, so that you udnerstand what I mean. This is very bad when somebody in the public asks a question of plot number 2 in slide #3 and you're in slide #55. Sure there are ways to overcome the problem, with the progress bar of latex-beamer, for instance, but still I don't like it. I just want to ask here in misc whether somebody has had the same problem and what other alternatives there are. I have noticed that a lot of people are using magicpoint out there. I had a look at it, but it seems not obvious to use when it comes to latex. As far as i know, there are these two possibilities: http://www.sonycsl.co.jp/person/nishida/mgp-users/msg00241.html http://www.sonycsl.co.jp/person/nishida/mgp-users/msg00290.html I have made some tests and I could not use all latex commands... I run into a snag in a number of occasions. Question: Do you have any recommendation / suggestion to prepare talks to be shown in a projector including mathematical equations, plots and, eventually, movies (I can live without this last point)? I am a mathematician so I am quite often in the same position as you to give presentations which contain lots of formulas and images. I use Powerdot class of Latex presentations (descendant of Prosper an obsolete class of presentations ) which is as an alternative to the Beamer class. For the comprehensive review of all classes of presentations for latex you may check http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present The advantages over Powerdot over Beamer are numerous. Powerdot is far easier (has only 60 man pages v.s. Beamer man pages are over 400 pages). It is also very simple to incorporate movies into your slides. The slides are easily customized and in my point of view far more beautiful than the Beamer. The popularity of Beamer seems comes from the fact that you can use pdflatex to produce pdf slides. That is not possible with Powerdot as it uses some PostScript tricks. So you will have to latex slides followed by dvips and ps2pdf or dvipdfm to produce pdf slides. The ultimate goal of course is to produce pdf slides. I noticed that one has to use Adobe Reader (I prefer Xpdf as well) which is only available from ports due to the license issues in order to have alive links on slides. That seems to be built in feature ( I would call it bug) which should be communicated probably up stream. The slides are very responsive. I personally have not seen better looking slides on any platform and I think I have seen it all. Powerdot class of presentations is part of TeXLive but not the part of teTeX. As you know teTeX is dead for about three years now and the TeXLive is official TeX distribution for Unix maintained by TeX community. TeXLive is available only from ports for OpenBSD 4.2. However you will have to use port for 4.3 current (soon to be release) as I stumbled upon a bug in Powerdot class of presentation. The bug was in TeXLive source code and was well documented. It is already fixed by port maintainer for OpenBSD 4.3. As far as I know TeXLive will be regular package (you will not need to use ports) starting OpenBSD 4.3. This is only second Unix like system after Debian to have fully functional TeXLive thanks to Edd Baret porter of TeXLive for OpenBSD. On the last note I recommend that you install full TeXLive which is about 1Gb but includes all TeX/Latex features coded at the moment. I am not sure if the TeXLive base includes Powerdot. I would guess yes. Most Kind Regards, Predrag Punosevac Thanks, Pau
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
On 17:45:26 Mar 18, Predrag Punosevac wrote: I am a mathematician so I am quite often in the same position as you to give presentations which contain lots of formulas and images. I use Powerdot class of Latex presentations (descendant of Prosper an obsolete class of presentations ) which is as an alternative to the Beamer class. For the comprehensive review of all classes of presentations for latex you may check http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present The advantages over Powerdot over Beamer are numerous. Powerdot is far easier (has only 60 man pages v.s. Beamer man pages are over 400 pages). It is also very simple to incorporate movies into your slides. The slides are easily customized and in my point of view far more beautiful than the Beamer. That will be really cool. ;) I love beauty both in women and in my work. ;) What about movies? The popularity of Beamer seems comes from the fact that you can use pdflatex to produce pdf slides. That is not possible with Powerdot as it uses some PostScript tricks. So you will have to latex slides followed by dvips and ps2pdf or dvipdfm to produce pdf slides. The ultimate goal of course is to produce pdf slides. That is no problem at all. I noticed that one has to use Adobe Reader (I prefer Xpdf as well) which is only available from ports due to the license issues in order to have alive links on slides. That seems to be built in feature ( I would call it bug) which should be communicated probably up stream. The slides are very responsive. I personally have not seen better looking slides on any platform and I think I have seen it all. Powerdot class of presentations is part of TeXLive but not the part of teTeX. As you know teTeX is dead for about three years now and the TeXLive is official TeX distribution for Unix maintained by TeX community. TeXLive is available only from ports for OpenBSD 4.2. However you will have to use port for 4.3 current (soon to be release) as I stumbled upon a bug in Powerdot class of presentation. The bug was in TeXLive source code and was well documented. It is already fixed by port maintainer for OpenBSD 4.3. As far as I know TeXLive will be regular package (you will not need to use ports) starting OpenBSD 4.3. This is only second Unix like system after Debian to have fully functional TeXLive thanks to Edd Baret porter of TeXLive for OpenBSD. On the last note I recommend that you install full TeXLive which is about 1Gb but includes all TeX/Latex features coded at the moment. I am not sure if the TeXLive base includes Powerdot. I would guess yes. I don't mind waiting till May 1. It is much better than Beamer? Do I have to go thro' the same learning curve? Your argument is quite convincing though. What about movies? -Girish -- unix soi qui mal y pense UNIX to him who evil thinks +--+ | GnuPG key : 0xC7BBF207 | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net| | Fingerprint: 2AFF C264 20CE C80C DDFF CC15 AD3E F190 C7BB F207 | +--+ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
On 22:43:32 Mar 18, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: I find that the speed, or lack thereof, which which xpdf renders each new page (or progessive-overlay-on-the-same-page) varies from too fast for any perceptable delay to a couple of seconds and sometimes even to 10 secondes. It seems to depend entirely on how big/complex the graphics are that I include -- if a page has only text and/or latex math, it renders instantly. But if there are big/complex graphics, then it can be slower. (The 10 seconds is only for some really nasty graphics files.) I have observed something around 3 to 4 seconds. It is not exactly painful but distracting. All my slides have pictures or source code, so xpdf is mostly unacceptable. It is very fast when you don't view fullscreen , so the issue is in scaling. In fact I would also venture to say that color pictures give a lot of fun and life to your boring technical talks be it math or software or hardware or even if you are making a sales/marketing pitch. I always look for powerful imagery from flickr.com. -Girish -- unix soi qui mal y pense UNIX to him who evil thinks +--+ | GnuPG key : 0xC7BBF207 | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net| | Fingerprint: 2AFF C264 20CE C80C DDFF CC15 AD3E F190 C7BB F207 | +--+ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
Nice to see that such a thing exists... I was thinking of doing something similar by myself... nevertheless the installer of mathml seems to be a bit lame and I am a bit worried about the portability of the final file. Sometimes, as you know, you are asked to not plug in your laptop, so that speakers do not waste time trying to configure X and in those cases they ask you for a pdf (or even ppt, buerk!) file which they will copy over to the conference laptop... Otherwise it seems indeed a very nice idea. 2008/3/19, Matthew Szudzik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Question: Do you have any recommendation / suggestion to prepare talks to be shown in a projector including mathematical equations, plots and, eventually, movies (I can live without this last point)? HTML is probably the most portable solution for your problem, and movies would work fine too (using VLC's Mozilla plug-in). Graphics display quickly and Firefox has MathML for displaying equations, but special fonts are required, and I'm unsure if anyone has ever tried to install them on OpenBSD (I certainly haven't). An example of MathML used in HTML is at http://pear.math.pitt.edu/mathzilla/Examples/markupOftheWeek.mhtml Personally, I use Mathematica on my OpenBSD laptop--it has a nice presentation mode and renders equations beautifully. Of course, it's proprietary software that costs money, so it's not for everyone.
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
Matthew Szudzik wrote: ... HTML is probably the most portable solution for your problem, and movies would work fine too (using VLC's Mozilla plug-in). ... That would also probably work with S5: http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ Putting on my ODF and OOo hats, I feel obligated ;) to mention that both Koffice and OpenOffice.org suites have presentation tools for OpenBSD, Kpresenter and OOo Impress. http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386/koffice-1.6.3p0.tgz-long.html http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386/openoffice-2.2.1p0.tgz-long.html Both suites also have formula editors, Kformula and OOo Math respectively (1), but they may or may not meet your needs. All four use the OpenDocument Format, which is zipped XML and for which a variety of developer tools exist: http://www.opendocumentfellowship.com/resources/dev_tools The ODF specification has no constraints on reuse. Currently, though I abhor slide presentations and prefer HTML in general, I have been making heavy use of OOo Impress the last two years at work. -Lars (1) http://www.openoffice.org/product/math.html http://koffice.org/kformula/
Re: Samba(SMB) or Netatalk(AFP)?
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Barry Commander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't NFS mean restricting root access on each client in order to prevent people accessing other files? Is there a way (short of restricting root access) to prevent this? RTFM. -maproot is what you want, see exports(5). -- error: one bad user found in front of screen
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
In the next couple sentences I will try to answer some of the questions you guys asked me about powerdot class of latex presentations. 1. Yes it is easier to learn than the Beamer but if know Beamer and it works for you maybe you should stick to your guns. This is the link to documentation and the source file for powerdot http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/entries/powerdot.html I want to reiterate that is very easy to customize slides unlike Beamer although you can see in the documentation that the package comes with about 20 different layouts and many more different color patterns. Trying to install manually on the top of teTeX will probably fail due to the fact that teTeX uses some outdated fonts. I tired in the past. It is not worthy as TeXLive in current ports three is rock solid. 2. There were many questions about Movies. Yes, It is possible to embed movies into the slides. Please follow the link http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/ The following link contains also extensive discussion of movie15 package and some examples http://www.uoregon.edu/~noeckel/PDFmovie.html Cheers, Predrag Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On 17:45:26 Mar 18, Predrag Punosevac wrote: I am a mathematician so I am quite often in the same position as you to give presentations which contain lots of formulas and images. I use Powerdot class of Latex presentations (descendant of Prosper an obsolete class of presentations ) which is as an alternative to the Beamer class. For the comprehensive review of all classes of presentations for latex you may check http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present The advantages over Powerdot over Beamer are numerous. Powerdot is far easier (has only 60 man pages v.s. Beamer man pages are over 400 pages). It is also very simple to incorporate movies into your slides. The slides are easily customized and in my point of view far more beautiful than the Beamer. That will be really cool. ;) I love beauty both in women and in my work. ;) What about movies? The popularity of Beamer seems comes from the fact that you can use pdflatex to produce pdf slides. That is not possible with Powerdot as it uses some PostScript tricks. So you will have to latex slides followed by dvips and ps2pdf or dvipdfm to produce pdf slides. The ultimate goal of course is to produce pdf slides. That is no problem at all. I noticed that one has to use Adobe Reader (I prefer Xpdf as well) which is only available from ports due to the license issues in order to have alive links on slides. That seems to be built in feature ( I would call it bug) which should be communicated probably up stream. The slides are very responsive. I personally have not seen better looking slides on any platform and I think I have seen it all. Powerdot class of presentations is part of TeXLive but not the part of teTeX. As you know teTeX is dead for about three years now and the TeXLive is official TeX distribution for Unix maintained by TeX community. TeXLive is available only from ports for OpenBSD 4.2. However you will have to use port for 4.3 current (soon to be release) as I stumbled upon a bug in Powerdot class of presentation. The bug was in TeXLive source code and was well documented. It is already fixed by port maintainer for OpenBSD 4.3. As far as I know TeXLive will be regular package (you will not need to use ports) starting OpenBSD 4.3. This is only second Unix like system after Debian to have fully functional TeXLive thanks to Edd Baret porter of TeXLive for OpenBSD. On the last note I recommend that you install full TeXLive which is about 1Gb but includes all TeX/Latex features coded at the moment. I am not sure if the TeXLive base includes Powerdot. I would guess yes. I don't mind waiting till May 1. It is much better than Beamer? Do I have to go thro' the same learning curve? Your argument is quite convincing though. What about movies? -Girish -- unix soi qui mal y pense UNIX to him who evil thinks +--+ | GnuPG key : 0xC7BBF207 | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net| | Fingerprint: 2AFF C264 20CE C80C DDFF CC15 AD3E F190 C7BB F207 | +--+ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
Re: Samba(SMB) or Netatalk(AFP)?
Doesn't NFS mean restricting root access on each client in order to prevent people accessing other files? Is there a way (short of restricting root access) to prevent this?
Re: Samba(SMB) or Netatalk(AFP)?
You could still either su to the user whos files you want from root, or you could map their UID. Both would allow you access to other users files. On 19/03/2008, Almir Karic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Barry Commander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't NFS mean restricting root access on each client in order to prevent people accessing other files? Is there a way (short of restricting root access) to prevent this? RTFM. -maproot is what you want, see exports(5). -- error: one bad user found in front of screen
Re: Samba(SMB) or Netatalk(AFP)?
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Barry Commander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could still either su to the user whos files you want from root, or you could map their UID. Both would allow you access to other users files. yep, welcome to the wonderful world of NFS :-), a toy such as kerberos will be needed to secure it, i have never done this on OBSD tho. -- error: one bad user found in front of screen
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
movie15... yes, I know it from latex-beamer... it's (was?) crap It will only embed movies under acroread AND windows... and asks for very recent pdflatex versions... at least this was the case one year ago, when I gave it a chance last time... evince, on the other hand, is not displaying perfectly the beamer layout and I don't know how to tell evince that it must use xine to reproduce the linked movies of my pdf talks... kpdf is more intelligent but as slow as a Spanish bureaucrat... For now latex-beamer + apm -H + evince seems to be the winner combination in my case 2008/3/19, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the next couple sentences I will try to answer some of the questions you guys asked me about powerdot class of latex presentations. 1. Yes it is easier to learn than the Beamer but if know Beamer and it works for you maybe you should stick to your guns. This is the link to documentation and the source file for powerdot http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/entries/powerdot.html I want to reiterate that is very easy to customize slides unlike Beamer although you can see in the documentation that the package comes with about 20 different layouts and many more different color patterns. Trying to install manually on the top of teTeX will probably fail due to the fact that teTeX uses some outdated fonts. I tired in the past. It is not worthy as TeXLive in current ports three is rock solid. 2. There were many questions about Movies. Yes, It is possible to embed movies into the slides. Please follow the link http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/ The following link contains also extensive discussion of movie15 package and some examples http://www.uoregon.edu/~noeckel/PDFmovie.html Cheers, Predrag Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On 17:45:26 Mar 18, Predrag Punosevac wrote: I am a mathematician so I am quite often in the same position as you to give presentations which contain lots of formulas and images. I use Powerdot class of Latex presentations (descendant of Prosper an obsolete class of presentations ) which is as an alternative to the Beamer class. For the comprehensive review of all classes of presentations for latex you may check http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present The advantages over Powerdot over Beamer are numerous. Powerdot is far easier (has only 60 man pages v.s. Beamer man pages are over 400 pages). It is also very simple to incorporate movies into your slides. The slides are easily customized and in my point of view far more beautiful than the Beamer. That will be really cool. ;) I love beauty both in women and in my work. ;) What about movies? The popularity of Beamer seems comes from the fact that you can use pdflatex to produce pdf slides. That is not possible with Powerdot as it uses some PostScript tricks. So you will have to latex slides followed by dvips and ps2pdf or dvipdfm to produce pdf slides. The ultimate goal of course is to produce pdf slides. That is no problem at all. I noticed that one has to use Adobe Reader (I prefer Xpdf as well) which is only available from ports due to the license issues in order to have alive links on slides. That seems to be built in feature ( I would call it bug) which should be communicated probably up stream. The slides are very responsive. I personally have not seen better looking slides on any platform and I think I have seen it all. Powerdot class of presentations is part of TeXLive but not the part of teTeX. As you know teTeX is dead for about three years now and the TeXLive is official TeX distribution for Unix maintained by TeX community. TeXLive is available only from ports for OpenBSD 4.2. However you will have to use port for 4.3 current (soon to be release) as I stumbled upon a bug in Powerdot class of presentation. The bug was in TeXLive source code and was well documented. It is already fixed by port maintainer for OpenBSD 4.3. As far as I know TeXLive will be regular package (you will not need to use ports) starting OpenBSD 4.3. This is only second Unix like system after Debian to have fully functional TeXLive thanks to Edd Baret porter of TeXLive for OpenBSD. On the last note I recommend that you install full TeXLive which is about 1Gb but includes all TeX/Latex features coded at the moment. I am not sure if the TeXLive base includes Powerdot. I would guess yes. I don't mind waiting till May 1. It is much better than Beamer? Do I have to go thro' the same learning curve? Your argument is quite convincing though. What about movies? -Girish -- unix soi qui mal y pense UNIX to him who evil thinks
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
I must apologise for speaking like that but I have spent HOURS in the past trying to make movie15 work... until I realised of the points I made in my last email. I was very angry 2008/3/19, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: movie15... yes, I know it from latex-beamer... it's (was?) crap It will only embed movies under acroread AND windows... and asks for very recent pdflatex versions... at least this was the case one year ago, when I gave it a chance last time... evince, on the other hand, is not displaying perfectly the beamer layout and I don't know how to tell evince that it must use xine to reproduce the linked movies of my pdf talks... kpdf is more intelligent but as slow as a Spanish bureaucrat... For now latex-beamer + apm -H + evince seems to be the winner combination in my case 2008/3/19, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the next couple sentences I will try to answer some of the questions you guys asked me about powerdot class of latex presentations. 1. Yes it is easier to learn than the Beamer but if know Beamer and it works for you maybe you should stick to your guns. This is the link to documentation and the source file for powerdot http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/entries/powerdot.html I want to reiterate that is very easy to customize slides unlike Beamer although you can see in the documentation that the package comes with about 20 different layouts and many more different color patterns. Trying to install manually on the top of teTeX will probably fail due to the fact that teTeX uses some outdated fonts. I tired in the past. It is not worthy as TeXLive in current ports three is rock solid. 2. There were many questions about Movies. Yes, It is possible to embed movies into the slides. Please follow the link http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/ The following link contains also extensive discussion of movie15 package and some examples http://www.uoregon.edu/~noeckel/PDFmovie.html Cheers, Predrag Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On 17:45:26 Mar 18, Predrag Punosevac wrote: I am a mathematician so I am quite often in the same position as you to give presentations which contain lots of formulas and images. I use Powerdot class of Latex presentations (descendant of Prosper an obsolete class of presentations ) which is as an alternative to the Beamer class. For the comprehensive review of all classes of presentations for latex you may check http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present The advantages over Powerdot over Beamer are numerous. Powerdot is far easier (has only 60 man pages v.s. Beamer man pages are over 400 pages). It is also very simple to incorporate movies into your slides. The slides are easily customized and in my point of view far more beautiful than the Beamer. That will be really cool. ;) I love beauty both in women and in my work. ;) What about movies? The popularity of Beamer seems comes from the fact that you can use pdflatex to produce pdf slides. That is not possible with Powerdot as it uses some PostScript tricks. So you will have to latex slides followed by dvips and ps2pdf or dvipdfm to produce pdf slides. The ultimate goal of course is to produce pdf slides. That is no problem at all. I noticed that one has to use Adobe Reader (I prefer Xpdf as well) which is only available from ports due to the license issues in order to have alive links on slides. That seems to be built in feature ( I would call it bug) which should be communicated probably up stream. The slides are very responsive. I personally have not seen better looking slides on any platform and I think I have seen it all. Powerdot class of presentations is part of TeXLive but not the part of teTeX. As you know teTeX is dead for about three years now and the TeXLive is official TeX distribution for Unix maintained by TeX community. TeXLive is available only from ports for OpenBSD 4.2. However you will have to use port for 4.3 current (soon to be release) as I stumbled upon a bug in Powerdot class of presentation. The bug was in TeXLive source code and was well documented. It is already fixed by port maintainer for OpenBSD 4.3. As far as I know TeXLive will be regular package (you will not need to use ports) starting OpenBSD 4.3. This is only second Unix like system after Debian to have fully functional TeXLive thanks to Edd Baret porter of TeXLive for OpenBSD. On the last note I recommend that you install full TeXLive which is about
Re: Samba(SMB) or Netatalk(AFP)?
I was under the impression kerberos support was only available with NFSv4 - looking at the manpages, it seems OpenBSD is using NFSv3 On 19/03/2008, Almir Karic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Barry Commander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could still either su to the user whos files you want from root, or you could map their UID. Both would allow you access to other users files. yep, welcome to the wonderful world of NFS :-), a toy such as kerberos will be needed to secure it, i have never done this on OBSD tho. -- error: one bad user found in front of screen
Re: Laptop display refresh rate
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 09:01:22PM +0100, Rafal Brodewicz wrote: Hello. Is there any tool to find out what V,H refresh rates should I set in xorg.conf for my laptop display? It's HP Copmaq 6510b with 1280x800 resolution. Are they still needed btw? Shouldn't be needed. I recommend you do X -configure as root, to get a basic xorg.conf.new, then edit that to add anything you need (like XkbLayout that's the only reason i still need a conf file). If you're playing with xrandr, you may want to re-add the Monitor-{lvds,vga} entries too. Cheers, -0- -- The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think.
Re: obsd 3.4 port of mysql may have error9 issue again...
OpenBSD 4.3, you mean. If I run mysqlcheck -A against a lot of databases... about the last database it comes back errors... Error: File './*_drupal/vocabulary_node_types.MYD' not found (Errcode: 9) Error: Got error9 from storage engine error: Corrupt No such issues there with OpenBSD 4.3. yes, 4.3 apologies on that typo. mysqlcheck is suppose to really exercise mysql, so I thought I'd best post in case someone else saw it, because the open file limit had been an issue in the past with version 3.* (possibly how my brain flipped the numbers...) The test computer has a new hard drive and hardware, amd64 with generic.mp I will also try a reboot with generic instead of generic.mp and see if it happens. Hopefully it is something in my.cnf that I setup and not the version of mysql.
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: movie15... yes, I know it from latex-beamer... it's (was?) crap It will only embed movies under acroread AND windows... and asks for very recent pdflatex versions... at least this was the case one year ago, when I gave it a chance last time... Well in all honestly lots of thing were not working properly due to the fact that most new packages require fonts and packages only included in TeXLive or if you like in MiKTeX 2.8 for Windows. teTeX was unmaintained for more than three years so of course the things that were coded in last couple of years didn't work on teTeX. I share your frustration about the fact that Acroread is also required. I think, I mentioned this in my first post. Xpdf is just not going to cut for lots of these new Latex packages because people who use them are working on Windows. If you ask me personally that is just poor coding but I unfortunately have to relay on others to write macros for TeX. The best thing is of course if you could write your own macros and packages. Finally, my students are using very simple trick to show their movies in my class. They collapse slides all together, start MatLab and play their animations from there. Obviously MatLab is not free software but I can not force anybody to use FreeMath or SciLab (Not even ported for OpenBSD). If you look older threads you will see that installing Maple, MatLab, or Mathematica is non-trivial on OpenBSD. Could you tell me at least what kind of movies are you trying to embed into your slides? Best, Predrag evince, on the other hand, is not displaying perfectly the beamer layout and I don't know how to tell evince that it must use xine to reproduce the linked movies of my pdf talks... kpdf is more intelligent but as slow as a Spanish bureaucrat... For now latex-beamer + apm -H + evince seems to be the winner combination in my case 2008/3/19, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the next couple sentences I will try to answer some of the questions you guys asked me about powerdot class of latex presentations. 1. Yes it is easier to learn than the Beamer but if know Beamer and it works for you maybe you should stick to your guns. This is the link to documentation and the source file for powerdot http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/entries/powerdot.html I want to reiterate that is very easy to customize slides unlike Beamer although you can see in the documentation that the package comes with about 20 different layouts and many more different color patterns. Trying to install manually on the top of teTeX will probably fail due to the fact that teTeX uses some outdated fonts. I tired in the past. It is not worthy as TeXLive in current ports three is rock solid. 2. There were many questions about Movies. Yes, It is possible to embed movies into the slides. Please follow the link http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/ The following link contains also extensive discussion of movie15 package and some examples http://www.uoregon.edu/~noeckel/PDFmovie.html Cheers, Predrag Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On 17:45:26 Mar 18, Predrag Punosevac wrote: I am a mathematician so I am quite often in the same position as you to give presentations which contain lots of formulas and images. I use Powerdot class of Latex presentations (descendant of Prosper an obsolete class of presentations ) which is as an alternative to the Beamer class. For the comprehensive review of all classes of presentations for latex you may check http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present The advantages over Powerdot over Beamer are numerous. Powerdot is far easier (has only 60 man pages v.s. Beamer man pages are over 400 pages). It is also very simple to incorporate movies into your slides. The slides are easily customized and in my point of view far more beautiful than the Beamer. That will be really cool. ;) I love beauty both in women and in my work. ;) What about movies? The popularity of Beamer seems comes from the fact that you can use pdflatex to produce pdf slides. That is not possible with Powerdot as it uses some PostScript tricks. So you will have to latex slides followed by dvips and ps2pdf or dvipdfm to produce pdf slides. The ultimate goal of course is to produce pdf slides. That is no problem at all. I noticed that one has to use Adobe Reader (I prefer Xpdf as well) which is only available from ports due to the license issues in order to have alive links on slides. That seems to be built in feature ( I would call it bug) which should be communicated probably up stream. The slides are very responsive. I personally have not seen better looking slides on any platform and I think I have seen it all. Powerdot class of presentations is part of TeXLive but not the part of teTeX. As you know teTeX is dead for
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 09:25:33AM +0100, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: Hi, yes, I also thought of something similar, but the result is that gs produces slides which are not smooth, i.e. you can almost see the pixels. Using -dTextAlphaBits=4 -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 options of gs should produce smooth images. Note that if the images are scaled by qiv then the result will not be smooth (qiv doesn't do anti-aliasing); so you'll have to force gs to produce images of the right size (see -r option of gs) -- Alexandre
IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
Hi guys I've found it very easy to get all the machines on my LAN speaking IPv6 but would like them now to be able to access the internet using IPv6 until they reach my router, where it converts to IPv4 and relays the data to the internet, converting back to IPv6 on the return route. Is this possible? Where would I find the information required to set this up? Thanks a lot Barry
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
Barry Commander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this possible? Where would I find the information required to set this up? It reads like you want to be able to connect to v6 servers although you only have v4 connectivity provided by your provider. If so, have a look at: http://www.tunnelbroker.net/ http://www.sixxs.net/ http://www.freenet6.net/ -- Jonathan
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
I basically want the IPv6 clients on my LAN to be able to access IPv4 servers on the internet transparantly - the router doing the IPv6-IPv4/IPv4-IPv6 conversion. I was under the impression those tunnel brokers simply allow the IPv4 interface on my router to access the limited IPv6 sites/servers Thanks Barry On 19/03/2008, Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Commander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this possible? Where would I find the information required to set this up? It reads like you want to be able to connect to v6 servers although you only have v4 connectivity provided by your provider. If so, have a look at: http://www.tunnelbroker.net/ http://www.sixxs.net/ http://www.freenet6.net/ -- Jonathan
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
Barry Commander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I basically want the IPv6 clients on my LAN to be able to access IPv4 servers on the internet transparantly - the router doing the IPv6-IPv4/IPv4-IPv6 conversion. You'd have to use IPv4 inside then LAN and NAT at the router as well for that to properly work. There was some way to map IPv4 adresses inside the IPv6 space, but IIRC, there were some issues with it. I was under the impression those tunnel brokers simply allow the IPv4 interface on my router to access the limited IPv6 sites/servers Yup, that's what they do. -- Jonathan
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 01:33:18PM +, Barry Commander wrote: | Hi guys | I've found it very easy to get all the machines on my LAN speaking IPv6 but | would like them now | to be able to access the internet using IPv6 until they reach my router, | where it converts to IPv4 | and relays the data to the internet, converting back to IPv6 on the return | route. Ehm, what exactly do you mean with convert ? If you're doing tcp, you may want to have a look at faithd(8). Another solution may be application level proxies or gateways. For name resolution, you can set up BIND as a caching nameserver on your router to listen on your v6 interfaces and queries the internet over v4 (possibly also v6, with a tunnel to SixXS or someplace else). For web you'll have to find a v6-capable proxy (I know squid isn't one). Maybe Apache 2's mod_proxy does it (or Apache 1.3 + the IPv6 patches (see mini.vnode.ch)). | Is this possible? Where would I find the information required to set this | up? It depends : what do you mean with 'convert' and what exactly do you want your systems behind your router to be able to do ? Without much further details, faithd(8) is the best answer I can give you. I don't know how workable it is, but you can find out yourself. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
Thanks Paul. Sorry for the confusion, I'd like to have only IPv6 traffic on my LAN and still be able to access IPv4 sites. I think i'll just stick to using sixx for now. Thanks again Barry On 19/03/2008, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 01:33:18PM +, Barry Commander wrote: | Hi guys | I've found it very easy to get all the machines on my LAN speaking IPv6 but | would like them now | to be able to access the internet using IPv6 until they reach my router, | where it converts to IPv4 | and relays the data to the internet, converting back to IPv6 on the return | route. Ehm, what exactly do you mean with convert ? If you're doing tcp, you may want to have a look at faithd(8). Another solution may be application level proxies or gateways. For name resolution, you can set up BIND as a caching nameserver on your router to listen on your v6 interfaces and queries the internet over v4 (possibly also v6, with a tunnel to SixXS or someplace else). For web you'll have to find a v6-capable proxy (I know squid isn't one). Maybe Apache 2's mod_proxy does it (or Apache 1.3 + the IPv6 patches (see mini.vnode.ch)). | Is this possible? Where would I find the information required to set this | up? It depends : what do you mean with 'convert' and what exactly do you want your systems behind your router to be able to do ? Without much further details, faithd(8) is the best answer I can give you. I don't know how workable it is, but you can find out yourself. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 03:19:15PM +, Barry Commander wrote: | Thanks Paul. Sorry for the confusion, I'd like to have only IPv6 traffic on | my LAN and | still be able to access IPv4 sites. I think i'll just stick to using sixx | for now. But what do you want to do ? Several different problems exist and some have nice and easy solutions (the DNS example from my previous mail), some are impossible to solve (users must use MSN messenger for MSN chatting needs). If you dont tell us what your needs are, we can not give you solutions (or tell you it's impossible). It's possible to have v6 only on your network and be productive, but it heavily depends on what you think 'being productive' means. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
BDB simple program compile problem
on openbsd4.2 installed db-3.1.17p8 trying to compile this simple c program using the BerkeleyDB Could anyone help me trouble shoot my cc line optons? I believe there is a problem with the program seing the library? I want to statically link the libray. include dir is /usr/local/include/db # pwd /usr/local/lib/db # ls libdb.a libdb.la libdb.so.3.1 libdb_cxx.a libdb_cxx.la libdb_cxx.so.4.0 lib dir is /usr/local/lib/db # pwd /usr/local/include/db # ls db.h db_185.h db_cxx.h CODE-- #include sys/types.h #include stdio.h #include db.h #define DATABASE access.db int main() { DB *dbp; int ret; if ((ret = db_create(dbp, NULL, 0)) !=0) { fprintf(stderr, db_creat: %s\n, db_strerror(ret)); exit(1); } } COMPILE OUTPUT- # cc t2.c /tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x1c): In function `main': : undefined reference to `db_create' /tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x32): In function `main': : undefined reference to `db_strerror' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 02:41:11PM +0100, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: If so, have a look at: http://www.tunnelbroker.net/ http://www.sixxs.net/ http://www.freenet6.net/ Which one from above would you recomend to look at in first place? Thanks. -- Rafal Brodewicz
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 05:15:11PM +0100, Rafal Brodewicz wrote: | On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 02:41:11PM +0100, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: | If so, have a look at: | | http://www.tunnelbroker.net/ | http://www.sixxs.net/ | http://www.freenet6.net/ | | Which one from above would you recomend to look at in first place? I'd recommend SixXS. It's what I use when there's no native v6. Just Works (tm). disclaimer : I know the people behind SixXS in person Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
Barry Commander wrote: I basically want the IPv6 clients on my LAN to be able to access IPv4 servers on the internet transparantly - the router doing the IPv6-IPv4/IPv4-IPv6 conversion. I was under the impression those tunnel brokers simply allow the IPv4 interface on my router to access the limited IPv6 sites/servers Thanks Barry They did that at recent NANOG and APNIC(APRICOT) meetings: switch off ipv4 (wireless) LAN and have everyone struggle with ipv6. see: http://www.civil-tongue.net/6and4/ you need 2 things: a DNS proxy that will give our clients a ipv6 () answer even if there's none in the real world - one is totd (ftp://ftp.dillema.net/pub/users/feico/totd-latest.tar.gz) and the protocol translator software (on linux) used mentioned here (http://www.civil-tongue.net/6and4/wiki/Linux%20NAT-PT%20Configuration) but leads to parked domain :-( (in cisco they did like this: http://www.civil-tongue.net/6and4/wiki/APRICOT2008-Router) Frank
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
On 2008-03-19, Barry Commander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was under the impression those tunnel brokers simply allow the IPv4 interface on my router to access the limited IPv6 sites/servers Most tunnel brokers allow you a /48 from which you can assign /64 subnets to your LAN/s. You can then setup live IPv6 addresses on all of your network. I basically want the IPv6 clients on my LAN to be able to access IPv4 servers on the internet transparantly - the router doing the IPv6-IPv4 /IPv4-IPv6 conversion. As things stand at the moment on OpenBSD, your only real option is faithd which is a userland proxy that forwards a single TCP port between v6 and v4. PF does not handle nat-pt. You also need some tricks so that the v6 clients see an DNS record for the site they try to access: this is done with the totd port/package.
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recommend SixXS. It's what I use when there's no native v6. Just Works (tm). While technically not bad, they suck when it comes to problems. My account was deleted with no further explaination, thus I asked them why. I got a reply really fast and they said it was because I was lying to them (which I weren't, I tried getting a tunnel at another PoP and they said I was lying because it was in a different country then where I live) and because a mail was bounced. My RIPE handle had an old e-mail and my MNT wasn't reachable, so I told them that. They responded me very quickly and said I should talk to RIPE directly and get the mail changed. I did so, and after that, I told them that it's fixed and they should please reactivate the account. But now they weren't replying quickly anymore, no, then ignored me. I sent them 3 mails in 2 months and all 3 were ignored. Before the e-mail was fixed, they answered in 1 day, but when it came to reactivating the account, they decided to ignore me. Today, I still haven't got my account reactivated. disclaimer : I know the people behind SixXS in person They are exactly the reason why you don't want to go there. I switched to HE then and it worked fine, but don't use HE anymore since I got native IPv6 now which works even better. -- Jonathan
Re: Flexibility of pf rules created by ftp-proxy?
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2008-03-17, Dave Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working on the pf configuration for my home firewall, including setting up ftp-proxy. I've noticed that the command is getting cluttered with options to adjust the rules it creates to the needs of different pf configurations. it would be better to turn this on its head, and handle these in the anchor definition in pf.conf (i.e. define options which should be applied to all rules under that anchor: log, tag, queue, label, rtable, blah blah blah). Upon consideration, I at least partially agree with you (and note that 4.3 is moving in this direction) -- but some things can't be applied to all of the rules in the anchor. I haven't thought it through carefully enough to know whether this is a significant issue but, as a minor example, I like to specify the interface in each rule (possibly overkill for these particular rules, but I'd expect it to at least reduce the total number of rule comparisons) and that will certainly differ from rule to rule (since I have both a DMZ and an internal network). doing this in ftp-proxy(/tftp-proxy/ftpsesame/pptp-proxy/wherever else you might want it) would be an inefficient way of handling this and annoying to keep eveything in-sync. Is this really a problem in practice? I'd think it likely that, since all of these are parsing text into a structure suitable for using in an ioctl on the pf device, they could all use a common procedure to perform that action. (I haven't examined the code, so there could be something which prevents this; if you have examined it and know that there is such a problem, I'll defer to your greater knowledge.) Dave
Re: Flexibility of pf rules created by ftp-proxy?
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Camiel Dobbelaar wrote: Dave Anderson wrote: I've been working on the pf configuration for my home firewall, including setting up ftp-proxy. I've noticed that the command is getting cluttered with options to adjust the rules it creates to the needs of different pf configurations. Has any thought been given to allowing arbitrary nat, rdr and pass rules to be specified in a configuration file (in the same syntax as for pf.conf) with macros defined for the server, client and proxy addresses (as in the examples; also, perhaps, a few other macros -- such as for the interfaces through which the client and server are reachable)? I'm not asking (let alone demanding) that anyone implement this, but would like to know if it's been considered and rejected for some reason, is on someone's to-do list, has never been thought about, or whatever. It seems to me to be a good way both to avoid needing more and more options to tweak the generated rules and to avoid the delay involved in modifying the program whenever someone comes up with a new need. Now that the 'tag' option is available I don't expect ftp-proxy to gain any more options wrt. to the pf rules it creates, because you can implement those yourself using 'tagged'. Only if exactly the same thing should be done for all rules in the anchor, since only one tag can be specified. I can't think offhand of any cases where this makes an important difference, but how sure can we be that there are none? The history behind the current implementation is that I wanted it to be simple. Having a configuration file with pf rules means that you either have: - embed a full parser, which is a lot of code - run pfctl, which makes it harder to chroot Or tweak the existing code in pfctl so it could be used (perhaps as a library routine) from ftp-proxy and anyplace else that wanted to make similar use of anchors. (I haven't examined the pfctl code, so I realize that this might turn out to be impractical.) Also, the FTP protocol is complex. Having the nat and rdr rules under user control would easily break things. Certainly true, for those who use the flexibility. So it would be a lot of extra code for not much gain. If using the code from pfctl is practical it shouldn't be all that much extra code, and the amount of gain depends on whether someone comes up with a real need for this sort of flexibility (I don't have anything specific to propose at this time). But I might well have made the same decision you did if it had been mine to make. Thanks for the discussion, Dave -- Dave Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BDB simple program compile problem
If the include you need is in /usr/local/include dont include the one in /usr/include. -moj On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Michael Spratt wrote: on openbsd4.2 installed db-3.1.17p8 trying to compile this simple c program using the BerkeleyDB Could anyone help me trouble shoot my cc line optons? I believe there is a problem with the program seing the library? I want to statically link the libray. include dir is /usr/local/include/db # pwd /usr/local/lib/db # ls libdb.a libdb.la libdb.so.3.1 libdb_cxx.a libdb_cxx.la libdb_cxx.so.4.0 lib dir is /usr/local/lib/db # pwd /usr/local/include/db # ls db.h db_185.h db_cxx.h CODE-- #include sys/types.h #include stdio.h #include db.h #define DATABASE access.db int main() { DB *dbp; int ret; if ((ret = db_create(dbp, NULL, 0)) !=0) { fprintf(stderr, db_creat: %s\n, db_strerror(ret)); exit(1); } } COMPILE OUTPUT- # cc t2.c /tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x1c): In function `main': : undefined reference to `db_create' /tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x32): In function `main': : undefined reference to `db_strerror' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
On 2008-03-19, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recommend SixXS. It's what I use when there's no native v6. Just Works (tm). I've experienced quite a lot of difference in reliability between the various sixxs POPs...
Re: include files in pf.conf
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 01:49:13PM +0100, Reyk Floeter wrote: | On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 01:31:47PM +0100, Arjen Van Drie wrote: | Hi, | | | searching on the Internet gave me no clear answer: is there a way to | include other config files in pf.conf, like | | | | the internet is for... anyway, sometimes the manpage gives a good | answer, just look at pf.conf(5): | | ---snip--- | Additional configuration files can be included with the include keyword, | for example: | |include /etc/pf/sub.filter.conf | ---snap--- | | of course, you can also search the internet via | http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=pf.conf | | # /etc/pf.conf | | | Include /etc/pf.interfaces | | Include /etc/pf.natrules | | | use lowercase letters and quotes... | | include /etc/pf.interfaces This seems to miss from the BNF spec. Index: pf.conf.5 === RCS file: /cvs/src/share/man/man5/pf.conf.5,v retrieving revision 1.393 diff -u -r1.393 pf.conf.5 --- pf.conf.5 11 Feb 2008 07:46:32 - 1.393 +++ pf.conf.5 19 Mar 2008 19:09:50 - @@ -2962,6 +2962,8 @@ upperlimit-sc = upperlimit sc-spec sc-spec= ( bandwidth-spec | ( bandwidth-spec number bandwidth-spec ) ) + +include= include filename .Ed .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /etc/protocols -compact Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: IPv6 LAN - IPv4 Internet
Jonathan Schleifer schreef: My RIPE handle had an old e-mail and my MNT wasn't reachable, so I told them that. They responded me very quickly and said I should talk to RIPE directly and get the mail changed. Hmm, I have that same issue (need it just for my SixXS account), I should talk to RIPE too I guess :-( Wijnand
Installing apsfilter package fails
I have an OpenBSD 4.2 box without X installed, and I'm trying to install apsfilter to set up printing. Apsfilter fails with the following message: # pkg_add apsfilter-7.2.8p0.tgz Can't install gettext-0.14.6p0: lib not found expat.8.0 Dependencies for gettext-0.14.6p0 resolve to: libiconv-1.9.2p3 Full dependency tree is libiconv-1.9.2p3 Can't install a2ps-4.13bp4-letter: can't resolve gettext-0.14.6p0 Can't install apsfilter-7.2.8p0: can't resolve a2ps-4.13bp4-letter What am I doing wrong??? Thanks, Ed
Re: BDB simple program compile problem
COMPILE OUTPUT- # cc t2.c Why, are you running this as root?.. /tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x1c): In function `main': : undefined reference to `db_create' Isn't this message rather obvious? can you not read or something? /tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x32): In function `main': : undefined reference to `db_strerror' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status You're not linking with the shared db library... $ gcc -I/usr/local/include/db4 -o t2 t2.cc -l/usr/local/lib -ldb Last time I checked, This mailing list isn't for people learning C.. Go buy yourself a book kid.. -Nix Fan.
Re: Installing apsfilter package fails
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:52:15 -0700 Ed Flecko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an OpenBSD 4.2 box without X installed, and I'm trying to install apsfilter to set up printing. Apsfilter fails with the following message: # pkg_add apsfilter-7.2.8p0.tgz Can't install gettext-0.14.6p0: lib not found expat.8.0 Dependencies for gettext-0.14.6p0 resolve to: libiconv-1.9.2p3 Full dependency tree is libiconv-1.9.2p3 Can't install a2ps-4.13bp4-letter: can't resolve gettext-0.14.6p0 Can't install apsfilter-7.2.8p0: can't resolve a2ps-4.13bp4-letter What am I doing wrong??? Thanks, Ed If I remember correctly, you need to have the x-base package installed for the libiconv / gettext dependencies to be met. It's an issue with 4.2. A quick search of the archives should yield more information for you. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]
Re: internal virtual network with qemu
On 17/03/2008, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 09:33:10AM -0700, Lord Sporkton wrote: I am running OpenBSD on OpenBSD with qemu(from pkg) all 4.2 I am using the host OS for network services, ntp, dns, and router, I am using the guest OS's for client services, www, ftp, sql, etc. Eh... are you aware that qemu without kqemu is very, very slow? And that this list has a virtualization does not enhance security mantra? Just checking. If you want to experiment with a real network without having a large amount of hardware, what you're doing is actually a pretty good way of going about it. Just don't try to *actually* run it in production. That is pretty much what im trying to do, simulate a real network. Part of that being that all my virtuals would see themselves on the same layer2 network and would be able to talk to each other with out the host acting as a router, same way vmware does it. My goal is to have all the guests on internal addresses and use the host to nat them to publics as needed, as well as the host providing ipsec tunnels to allow other locations to access the client services via internal address. My question is: Is it best to put my private gateway ip on the real ethernet interface or on a loopback or other interface on the host? I'm not really sure what you mean. Most qemu setups I've seen connect to the host OS via tunX, so there is not really a private gateway there. You could NAT your real external interface into these tun devices. Joachim And part of a real network is that i would have a gateway(firewall). I misunderstood how qemu handle networking, i was under the impression that it piggy backed on a real interface, much the way that vmware or windows virtual machine does, you tell it attach to x interface and it puts a second mac on the interface and then uses that interface(all though shared) as if it was its own physical nic. Your reply suggests i am understanding it wrong, however i did not see anything in the man page saying otherwise, perhaps i missed something -- TFMotD: ul (1) - do underlining -- -Lawrence -Student ID 1028219
Re: internal virtual network with qemu
On 2008-03-19, Lord Sporkton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I misunderstood how qemu handle networking, i was under the impression that it piggy backed on a real interface, much the way that vmware or windows virtual machine does, you tell it attach to x interface and it puts a second mac on the interface and then uses that interface(all though shared) as if it was its own physical nic. there are various ways it can handle networking, read the docs... http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html
Kernel doesn't reclaim unused interface indexes?
OpenBSD's currently limited to using interfaces with an index 32 for multicast, and on one of my machines I created and destroyed enough virtual interfaces during experimentation that some of the interfaces currently in use and that I would like to route multicast traffic to have indexes = 32. The simple solution is to reboot since I have fewer than 32 interfaces total, they'll renumber and everything will be fine. However, I saw if_attachsetup (in net/if.c) there's some code for looping through ifindex2ifnet twice to try to find an unused interface index, so I figured I could avoid rebooting by creating and destroying ~65000 virtual devices to wrap the counter, and then recreating the necessary interfaces so I could use them in multicast. Fortunately, I tested this idea first, because it actually leads to a kernel panic. :-) A second somewhat closer look at the kernel's interface handling code gives me the impression that the ifnet structures are never freed, the ifindex2ifnet table is never zero'd out, and so that loop always results in a panic. Looking at the history on net/if.c, I see a commit comment from itojun that ifindex2ifnet could become NULL when interface gets destroyed, when we introduce dynamically-created interfaces, but this was four years ago and if_vlan has existed for 7 (though seemingly in a different form then). What does dynamically-created mean if not something like vlan/gif/carp/trunk? Is there anything major preventing ifindex2ifnet being cleared? (If it's just developer interest, it *looks* like it should be a straight-forward-enough fix that I'd be interested in trying to write a patch.)
Re: internal virtual network with qemu
On 19/03/2008, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-03-19, Lord Sporkton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I misunderstood how qemu handle networking, i was under the impression that it piggy backed on a real interface, much the way that vmware or windows virtual machine does, you tell it attach to x interface and it puts a second mac on the interface and then uses that interface(all though shared) as if it was its own physical nic. there are various ways it can handle networking, read the docs... http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html If you have to refer me to an outside doc, isnt that a sign that the man page should be updated? I dont mind updating it, infact if i can make that outside doc work, ill be more than happy to submit updates for the man page, i just want to make sure that the info _isnt_in the man page and i just missed it? -- -Lawrence -Student ID 1028219
Re: internal virtual network with qemu
On 2008-03-20, Lord Sporkton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are various ways it can handle networking, read the docs... http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html If you have to refer me to an outside doc, isnt that a sign that the man page should be updated? see Network options in the manual. the last caveat of amd(8) is probably applicable here too (especially if you apply the patch from http://tinyurl.com/2grup9 to let qemu talk to dynamips over udp sockets...)
Re: Installing apsfilter package fails
Hi, On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Preston Kutzner wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:52:15 -0700 Ed Flecko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an OpenBSD 4.2 box without X installed, and I'm trying to install apsfilter to set up printing. Apsfilter fails with the following message: # pkg_add apsfilter-7.2.8p0.tgz Can't install gettext-0.14.6p0: lib not found expat.8.0 [ ... ] If I remember correctly, you need to have the x-base package installed for the libiconv / gettext dependencies to be met. It's an issue with 4.2. Another way is (1) decompress xbase42.tgz in a temp directory (2) find libexpatsomething in usr/X11R6/lib (3) mkdir /usr/X11R6/lib and cp the file you found in (2). Then, try pkg_add'ing apsfilter* again. -- - Edwin - The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it./Psalms 37:29
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