Re: Logitech Quick Cam driver
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Bertrand Janin tamen...@neopulsar.org wrote: This stuff was an experiment, the code is awful and I don't recommend using it for anything but morbid curiosity. It only works with the Express version of the webcam, it doesn't integrate with anything and will only let you capture still frames (it does not even adjust the luminosity). Thank you so much Tomas, Thomas and Bertrand for the advice :-) --Siju
Re: kern.maxclusters: 6144 - ?
On 26. feb. 2010, at 03.01, Aaron Mason wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Pete Vickers p...@systemnet.no wrote: Hi, A proxy (squid) server running i368/4.6RELEASE with around 800 users, what would be a reasonable value to increase kern.maxclusters too, to cure this : r...@proxy-s ~ grep mcl /var/log/messages Dec 10 10:13:43 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters Dec 10 11:06:07 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters Dec 15 13:41:48 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters r...@proxy-s ~ sysctl kern.maxclusters kern.maxclusters=6144 r...@proxy-s ~ netstat -m 4098 mbufs in use: 1131 mbufs allocated to data 2962 mbufs allocated to packet headers 5 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 1084/6152/6144 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 14176 Kbytes allocated to network (22% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines something like kern.maxclusters=1 or ? /Pete Only you can answer that, Pete. Try increasing it gradually until the errors go away. And if the error returns, increase it again. If it makes your system unstable, lower it until it returns to stability. Increments (and decrements, if necessary) of 256 would probably be wise. Getting the right balance with any system is all about trial and error - trying different things until things are running smoothly - or acceptably so in some situations. It's also about the balance between workability and stability. Sometimes you just can't have your cake and eat it too - stability must be the priority. My $0.02 there. -- Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse Hi, Indeed, the only problem is that if it's too low, then the system hangs. Presumably if it's too high, then the 'system instability' manifests itself has hanging too, so it's tricky to tell which way to go, once you deviate from the norm ... Anyway for the archives I'm trying 8192 currently, hopefully that will reduce the crashes... 6016 mbufs in use: 2151 mbufs allocated to data 3860 mbufs allocated to packet headers 5 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 1979/5664/8192 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 14048 Kbytes allocated to network (38% in use) /Pete
Re: kern.maxclusters: 6144 - ?
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:30:30AM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote: On 26. feb. 2010, at 03.01, Aaron Mason wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Pete Vickers p...@systemnet.no wrote: Hi, A proxy (squid) server running i368/4.6RELEASE with around 800 users, what would be a reasonable value to increase kern.maxclusters too, to cure this : r...@proxy-s ~ grep mcl /var/log/messages Dec 10 10:13:43 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters Dec 10 11:06:07 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters Dec 15 13:41:48 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters r...@proxy-s ~ sysctl kern.maxclusters kern.maxclusters=6144 r...@proxy-s ~ netstat -m 4098 mbufs in use: 1131 mbufs allocated to data 2962 mbufs allocated to packet headers 5 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 1084/6152/6144 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 14176 Kbytes allocated to network (22% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines something like kern.maxclusters=1 or ? /Pete Only you can answer that, Pete. Try increasing it gradually until the errors go away. And if the error returns, increase it again. If it makes your system unstable, lower it until it returns to stability. Increments (and decrements, if necessary) of 256 would probably be wise. Getting the right balance with any system is all about trial and error - trying different things until things are running smoothly - or acceptably so in some situations. It's also about the balance between workability and stability. Sometimes you just can't have your cake and eat it too - stability must be the priority. My $0.02 there. -- Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse Hi, Indeed, the only problem is that if it's too low, then the system hangs. I guess only the network hangs. Since there is no clusters available to be used by drivers or other sockets. Normaly the system should not hangup itself because of that. Presumably if it's too high, then the 'system instability' manifests itself has hanging too, so it's tricky to tell which way to go, once you deviate from the norm ... Yes, if set too high you can run out the kernel of memory (physical or virtual) which is normaly causing a panic or freze. Anyway for the archives I'm trying 8192 currently, hopefully that will reduce the crashes... 6016 mbufs in use: 2151 mbufs allocated to data 3860 mbufs allocated to packet headers 5 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 1979/5664/8192 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 14048 Kbytes allocated to network (38% in use) Your allocationg a max of 8192 2k buffers or 4096 4k pages or 16MB of memory. On a modern system with 1GB of memory everything below 64MB or 128k clusters should work if you don't fiddle with other knobs that rob all memory from the kernel. -- :wq Claudio
Re: bad address for f...@openbsd.org?
yes. i already sent it to millert@ alerting about a few days ago. i guess, he is the sysadmin of the maillists. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Mark Nipper ni...@bitgnome.net wrote: I got this while trying to e-mail f...@openbsd.org just now: --- The original message was received at Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:22:51 -0700 (MST) from lists.openbsd.org [192.43.244.163] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - joel (reason: 550 5.1.1 User unknown) (expanded from: f...@cvs.openbsd.org) - Transcript of session follows - 550 5.1.1 joel... User unknown ... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.: DATA 451 4.3.0 Mail server temporarily rejected message. 33si22682393vws.78 --- I don't know if that is the only user/address associated with that alias, so I'm not sure how important this really is. Just thought I'd let someone know. Thanks. -- Mark Nipper ni...@bitgnome.net (XMPP) +1 979 575 3193 - Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
Re: Sparc classic serial ports ttya vs cuaa
Hi all,
I've been working on getting gpsd working on one of my old Sun IPXes but
I've run into a problem with ldattach needing the /dev/cuaa device. The
serial port /dev/ttya is working with gpsd directly but ldattach requires
/dev/cuaa. However, according to the system logs, ldattach issues the
error (ldattach is run as root):
ldattach: can't open /dev/cuaa: Device not configured
Oops. Big oops. cua support for zstty was removed about 7.5 years ago,
it was intended to be brought back, but I had completely forgotten about
this.
Does the following diff help? It should apply cleanly to 4.6 too (apply
in sys/arch/sparc/dev).
Miod
Index: z8530sc.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/sparc/dev/z8530sc.h,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.2 z8530sc.h
--- z8530sc.h 2 Jun 2003 23:27:54 - 1.2
+++ z8530sc.h 26 Feb 2010 11:33:33 -
@@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ struct zs_chanstate {
/* the above is set only while CRTSCTS is enabled. */
charcs_softreq; /* need soft interrupt call */
- charcs_spare1; /* (for skippy :) */
+ charcs_cua; /* CUA mode flag */
/* power management hooks */
int (*enable)(struct zs_chanstate *);
Index: z8530tty.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/sparc/dev/z8530tty.c,v
retrieving revision 1.13
diff -u -p -r1.13 z8530tty.c
--- z8530tty.c 9 Nov 2009 17:53:39 - 1.13
+++ z8530tty.c 26 Feb 2010 11:33:33 -
@@ -230,8 +230,8 @@ void zstty_txint(struct zs_chanstate *);
void zstty_softint(struct zs_chanstate *);
void zstty_diag(void *);
-#define ZSUNIT(x) (minor(x) 0x7)
-#define ZSDIALOUT(x)(minor(x) 0x8)
+#define ZSUNIT(x) (minor(x) 0x7f)
+#define ZSDIALOUT(x)(minor(x) 0x80)
/*
* zstty_match: how is this zs channel configured?
@@ -421,7 +421,7 @@ zstty(dev)
dev_t dev;
{
struct zstty_softc *zst;
- int unit = minor(dev);
+ int unit = ZSUNIT(dev);
#ifdef DIAGNOSTIC
if (unit = zstty_cd.cd_ndevs)
@@ -456,8 +456,9 @@ zs_shutdown(zst)
* Hang up if necessary. Wait a bit, so the other side has time to
* notice even if we immediately open the port again.
*/
- if (ISSET(tp-t_cflag, HUPCL)) {
+ if (ISSET(tp-t_cflag, HUPCL) || ISSET(tp-t_state, TS_WOPEN)) {
zs_modem(zst, 0);
+ /* hold low for 1 second */
(void) tsleep(cs, TTIPRI, ttclos, hz);
}
@@ -496,7 +497,7 @@ zsopen(dev, flags, mode, p)
int s, s2;
int error, unit;
- unit = minor(dev);
+ unit = ZSUNIT(dev);
if (unit = zstty_cd.cd_ndevs)
return (ENXIO);
zst = zstty_cd.cd_devs[unit];
@@ -584,16 +585,12 @@ zsopen(dev, flags, mode, p)
ttychars(tp);
ttsetwater(tp);
- s2 = splzs();
+ if (ZSDIALOUT(dev))
+ SET(tp-t_state, TS_CARR_ON);
+ else
+ CLR(tp-t_state, TS_CARR_ON);
- /*
-* Turn on DTR. We must always do this, even if carrier is not
-* present, because otherwise we'd have to use TIOCSDTR
-* immediately after setting CLOCAL, which applications do not
-* expect. We always assert DTR while the device is open
-* unless explicitly requested to deassert it.
-*/
- zs_modem(zst, 1);
+ s2 = splzs();
/* Clear the input ring, and unblock. */
zst-zst_rbget = zst-zst_rbput = zst-zst_rbuf;
@@ -605,9 +602,83 @@ zsopen(dev, flags, mode, p)
splx(s2);
}
+ if (ZSDIALOUT(dev)) {
+ if (ISSET(tp-t_state, TS_ISOPEN)) {
+ /* someone already is dialed in... */
+ splx(s);
+ return EBUSY;
+ }
+ cs-cs_cua = 1;
+ }
+
+ error = 0;
+ /* wait for carrier if necessary */
+ if (ISSET(flags, O_NONBLOCK)) {
+ if (!ZSDIALOUT(dev) cs-cs_cua) {
+ /* Opening TTY non-blocking... but the CUA is busy */
+ error = EBUSY;
+ }
+ } else
+ while (cs-cs_cua ||
+ (!ISSET(tp-t_cflag, CLOCAL) !ISSET(tp-t_state, TS_CARR_ON))) {
+ int rr0;
+
+ error = 0;
+ SET(tp-t_state, TS_WOPEN);
+
+ if (!ZSDIALOUT(dev) !cs-cs_cua) {
+ /*
+* Turn on DTR. We must always do this on non-CUA
+* devices, even if carrier is not present, because
+* otherwise we'd have to use TIOCSDTR immediately
+* after setting CLOCAL,
Re: PostgreSQL and perl script -perl.core
Chris Bennett wrote: Stuart Henderson wrote: oh, please also keep /tmp/pkglist around in case anyone wants to see it.. On 2010-02-26, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2010-02-25, Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz wrote: Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2010-02-23, Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz wrote: I just upgraded a production server to -current (needed latest PostgreSQL) Did you upgrade all packages? Specifically, any Perl XS modules must have been built with a version of Perl matching the Perl binary, so if you didn't upgrade these (e.g. DBD::Pg) that could be the problem. I decided to delete DBD::Pg and added latest through CPAN. This eliminated the core dumps, but not the Segmentation Faults. Please first uninstall DBD::Pg from CPAN (mixing things from CPAN and OpenBSD packages is going to cause confusion at best and won't help track down the problem with the packages. I was giving DBD::Pg as an example but you must have other XS modules on your system if you're using DBD::Pg. Did you upgrade __all__ packages? If not please do so (pkg_add -ui or similar) and re-test. If you've already done that and it's still failing, try reinstalling all the perl things: - save a copy of your package list pkg_info /tmp/pkglist - uninstall all p5-* packages and things they pull in pkg_delete -i /var/db/pkg/p5-* (and answer yes to uninstalling the dependent pkg's) - reinstall the packages from the list you saved pkg_add -z -l /tmp/pkglist and test again. If it's broken after just doing pkg_add -u but deleting+reinstalling these packages fixes things, we need to know *absolutely ASAP* if we're to stand a chance of changing anything for release. No go. Updated to latest. no packages got updated. Still get Segmentation faults debug version still works clean I have now given myself a new problem Apache is now blown out: runs but I get [Fri Feb 26 07:44:14 2010] [notice] child pid 26552 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) for every access -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: PostgreSQL and perl script -perl.core
On 2010/02/26 07:47, Chris Bennett wrote: debug version still works clean I have now given myself a new problem Apache is now blown out: runs but I get [Fri Feb 26 07:44:14 2010] [notice] child pid 26552 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) for every access httpd ABI got changed. Until we can get new packages out you will need to rebuild your apache modules (php/etc).
Apache Seg faults children after latest upgrade
I just upgraded to latest -current trying to eliminate problem with PostgreSQL. Apache now starts but segmentation faults(11) for every child. -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: managing routes for multiple PPPoE connections
On 2010-02-26, Edwin Eyan Moragas haa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: ah, the thing that mightn't have been apparent with my suggestion of route-to, is that my default route points out of a normal ethernet interface, which stays up all the time so i guess i should remove the callout from hostname.pppoe to adding a default route? thank you for the assist. :) it's slightly more complicated, as you have to have *some* default route otherwise the packets don't get as far as PF, so the route-to rules can't be used. it could be a dummy address, but it has to point to an address on some directly-connected network. I'm not sure if it has to respond to arp, it's possible, but it wouldn't have to actually do any routing if you have everything covered by route-to rules. you might have to experiment a bit there. in the setup where I'm using this, default points to a separate adsl router on vr0, and there are a couple of pppoe(4)'s on the box itself, with route-to to balance between the vr0 and all pppoe's.
Re: PostgreSQL and perl script -perl.core
Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2010/02/26 07:47, Chris Bennett wrote: debug version still works clean I have now given myself a new problem Apache is now blown out: runs but I get [Fri Feb 26 07:44:14 2010] [notice] child pid 26552 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) for every access httpd ABI got changed. Until we can get new packages out you will need to rebuild your apache modules (php/etc). ok. How do I do that? Or will ports have the right versions? Which ones of these do I need to rebuild? This is my package list GeoIP-1.4.6 find the country where IP address/hostname originates from GraphicsMagick-1.3.6-no_x11 image processing tools with stable ABI ImageMagick-6.4.5.6p0-no_x11 image processing tools amavisd-new-2.6.4p0 interface between mailer MTA and content checkers arc-5.21op1 create extract files from DOS .ARC files autoconf-2.61p3 automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms bzip2-1.0.5 block-sorting file compressor, unencumbered cabextract-1.2p0extracts files from Microsoft CAB archives clamav-0.95.3 virus scanner colorls-4.6p0 ls that can use color to display file attributes curl-7.19.7p0 get files from FTP, Gopher, HTTP or HTTPS servers db-4.6.21p0 Berkeley DB package, revision 4 dovecot-1.1.20-postgresql compact IMAP/POP3 server e2fs-uuid-1.41.4p0 unique id generator library e2fsprogs-1.41.4p0 utilities to manipulate ext2 filesystems femail-0.97p1 simple SMTP client freetype-1.3.1p3free and portable TrueType font rendering engine freeze-2.5p0FREEZE / MELT compression program - often used in QNX gawk-3.1.7p0GNU awk gd-2.0.35p0 library for dynamic creation of images gettext-0.17p0 GNU gettext ghostscript-8.63p11-no_x11 GNU PostScript interpreter ghostscript-fonts-8.11p1 35 standard PostScript fonts with Adobe name aliases gmake-3.81p0GNU make gmp-4.3.1 library for arbitrary precision arithmetic gnupg-1.4.10GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement gsed-4.1.5 GNU stream editor gtar-1.22p0 GNU version of the traditional tape archiver help2man-1.29p0 GNU help2man ijs-0.35raster image transmission library jasper-1.900.1p1reference implementation of JPEG-2000 jbigkit-1.6p1 lossless image compression library jpeg-7 IJG's JPEG compression utilities lcms-1.18a color management library lha-1.14i.ac20050924.1 archive files using LZW compression (.lzh files) libghttp-1.0.9p2GNOME http client library libiconv-1.13p0 character set conversion library libidn-1.11 internationalized string handling libltdl-1.5.26p0GNU libtool system independent dlopen wrapper libtool-1.5.26p2generic shared library support script libxml-2.7.6XML parsing library lzo-1.08p1 portable speedy lossless data compression library lzo2-2.03 portable speedy lossless data compression library lzop-1.02rc1fast file compressor similar to gzip metaauto-0.9wrapper for gnu auto*mysql-server-5.1.42 multithreaded SQL database (server) ncftp-3.2.3 ftp replacement with advanced user interface net-snmp-5.4.2.1p3 extendable SNMP implementation netpbm-10.26.64 toolkit for converting images between different formats p5-Algorithm-Diff-1.1902 interface to compute differences between two objects p5-Apache-DBI-0.94p0 DBI persistent connection, authentication and authorization p5-Apache-Test-1.30p0 Test wrapper with helpers for testing Apache p5-Archive-Zip-1.30 perl interface to ZIP files p5-BerkeleyDB-0.34p1 Berkeley DB module p5-Class-ErrorHandler-0.01 base class for error handling p5-Class-Loader-2.03 load modules and create objects on demand p5-Convert-ASCII-Armour-1.4p0 convert binary octets into ASCII armoured messages p5-Convert-ASN1-0.22 module to encode and decode ASN.1 data structures p5-Convert-BinHex-1.119p1 module to extract data from Macintosh BinHex files p5-Convert-PEM-0.07 read/write access to ASN.1-encoded PEM files p5-Convert-TNEF-0.17p0 module to read TNEF files p5-Convert-UUlib-1.09p0 interface to the uulib library p5-Crypt-Blowfish-2.10p0 interface to the Blowfish encryption algorithm p5-Crypt-CBC-2.30 cryptographic cipher block chaining mode p5-Crypt-DES-2.05p1 interface to the DES encryption algorithm p5-Crypt-DES-EDE3-0.01 Triple-DES EDE encryption/decryption p5-Crypt-DH-0.06Diffie-Hellman key exchange system p5-Crypt-DSA-0.13 DSA Signatures and Key Generation p5-Crypt-OpenSSL-Bignum-0.04p0 OpenSSL's multiprecision integer arithmetic p5-Crypt-OpenSSL-RSA-0.25p0 RSA encoding and decoding using OpenSSL p5-Crypt-OpenSSL-Random-0.04p0 routines for accessing the OpenSSL prng p5-Crypt-Primes-0.50 provable prime number generator p5-Crypt-RSA-1.99 RSA public-key cryptosystem p5-Crypt-Random-1.25 cryptographically secure random number generator p5-Crypt-SSLeay-0.57p0 library to provide LWP https support via
Re: Apache Seg faults children after latest upgrade
On 2010-02-26, Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz wrote: I just upgraded to latest -current trying to eliminate problem with PostgreSQL. Apache now starts but segmentation faults(11) for every child. I already replied when you asked on the other thread. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/170257
Re: Apache Seg faults children after latest upgrade
Chris Bennett wrote: I just upgraded to latest -current trying to eliminate problem with PostgreSQL. Apache now starts but segmentation faults(11) for every child. I already got answer to this, httpd DBI has changed -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein
poor setwork performance on gigabit link
Hi All, I can reach only approx. 8 Mbyte/s on a LAN between the server and the client. The complete network is capable of gigabit yet the speed reaches 15Mb/s then starts to trigger high/low and stabilyses at 8000kb/s. I tried the 2 interfaces of the server (running OpenBSD) with similar results. The client is at 10.0.1.32 the server at 10.0.1.1 - this is the LAN on gigabit link. Could you please see if there are any troubles in those informations below ttha explains this ? After several check of the physics and the software, I run out of idea about this problem and where to look for. Thank you dmesg LBA, 30800MB, 63078400 sectors wd1 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0: WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 953869MB, 1953525168 sectors nfe0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 LAN rev 0xa2: apic 4 int 15 (irq 15), address 00:30:1c:24:e3:ea eephy0 at nfe0 phy 19: 88E1116 Gigabit PHY, rev. 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 PCIE rev 0xa1 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 vga1 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 vendor NVIDIA, unknown product 0x0849 rev 0xa2 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) ppb2 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 PCIE rev 0xa1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 255) pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 ppb3 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 PCIE rev 0xa1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 255) pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 pchb0 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport rev 0x00 pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg rev 0x00 kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg rev 0x00: core rev BH-F2 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 it0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: IT8716F rev 3, EC port 0x290 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 usb2 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 NVIDIA OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 NVIDIA OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support uhub4 at uhub3 port 5 BTC USB Keyboard rev 1.10/0.03 addr 2 uhidev0 at uhub4 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 BTC USB Keyboard rev 1.10/0.03 addr 3 uhidev0: iclass 3/1 ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1 wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0 uhidev1 at uhub4 port 1 configuration 1 interface 1 BTC USB Keyboard rev 1.10/0.03 addr 3 uhidev1: iclass 3/0, 7 report ids uhid0 at uhidev1 reportid 1: input=1, output=0, feature=0 uhid1 at uhidev1 reportid 2: input=1, output=0, feature=0 uhid2 at uhidev1 reportid 3: input=2, output=0, feature=0 uhid3 at uhidev1 reportid 7: input=3, output=0, feature=0 softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b syncing disks... OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC.MP) #81: Thu Jul 9 21:26:19 MDT 2009 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 1004470272 (957MB) avail mem = 962330624 (917MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf (38 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD version 6.00 PG date 08/11/2008 bios0: Shuttle Inc SN78S acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT HPET MCFG SLIC APIC acpi0: wakeup devices HUB0(S5) XVR0(S5) XVR1(S5) XVR2(S5) XVR3(S5) XVR4(S5) XVR5(S5) XVR6(S5) XVR7(S5) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USBB(S3) USB2(S3) AZAD(S5) MMAC(S5) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 2500 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, 2000.28 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, 2000.00 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (HUB0) acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 75
arbitrary ip range in pf
Is it possible to write a rule based on a arbitrary ip rule instead
using a full subnet as source address like this?
hosts_allowed={ 192.168.0.21-40 }
And even using a single host on this following rule, i get a syntax
error. Can someone point what is wrong?
host_allowed=192.168.0.21
im_server=192.168.1.2
block out on $inet_iface inet proto tcp from ! { $host_allowed,
$im_server } to any port 1863
Leonardo Carneiro
Re: arbitrary ip range in pf
On 26 February 2010 c. 20:23:31 Leonardo Carneiro - Veltrac wrote:
Is it possible to write a rule based on a arbitrary ip rule instead
using a full subnet as source address like this?
hosts_allowed={ 192.168.0.21-40 }
And even using a single host on this following rule, i get a syntax
error. Can someone point what is wrong?
host_allowed=192.168.0.21
im_server=192.168.1.2
block out on $inet_iface inet proto tcp from ! { $host_allowed,
$im_server } to any port 1863
At first, this rule will NOT do what you think it will do. It expands
(theoretically) to two rules:
block out on $inet_iface inet proto tcp from ! $host_allowed \
to any port 1863
block out on $inet_iface inet proto tcp from ! $im_server \
to any port 1863
As the result, all traffic will be blocked: traffic from $im_server will
be blocked by the first rule, and traffic from $host_allowed will be
blocked by the second one.
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Re: arbitrary ip range in pf
On 26/02/10 19:23, Leonardo Carneiro - Veltrac wrote:
Is it possible to write a rule based on a arbitrary ip rule instead
using a full subnet as source address like this?
hosts_allowed={ 192.168.0.21-40 }
pf.conf(4)
Ranges of addresses are specified using the `-' operator. For
instance: ``10.1.1.10 - 10.1.1.12'' means all addresses from
10.1.1.10 to 10.1.1.12, hence addresses 10.1.1.10,
10.1.1.11, and
10.1.1.12.
hosts_allowed={ 192.168.0.21 - 192.168.0.40 }
Vadim was also right about the rule evaluation.
Do first a pass from $host_allowed then a pass from $im_server
then block rest.
Alternatively you can put all addresses in a table (no ranges).
Giannis
Re: arbitrary ip range in pf
On 26/02/10 19:53, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: pf.conf(4) pf.conf(5)
Re: arbitrary ip range in pf
Tks Kapetanakis and Vadis for your help. I'll try this out.
Kapetanakis Giannis wrote:
On 26/02/10 19:23, Leonardo Carneiro - Veltrac wrote:
Is it possible to write a rule based on a arbitrary ip rule instead
using a full subnet as source address like this?
hosts_allowed={ 192.168.0.21-40 }
pf.conf(4)
Ranges of addresses are specified using the `-' operator. For
instance: ``10.1.1.10 - 10.1.1.12'' means all addresses from
10.1.1.10 to 10.1.1.12, hence addresses 10.1.1.10,
10.1.1.11, and
10.1.1.12.
hosts_allowed={ 192.168.0.21 - 192.168.0.40 }
Vadim was also right about the rule evaluation.
Do first a pass from $host_allowed then a pass from $im_server
then block rest.
Alternatively you can put all addresses in a table (no ranges).
Giannis
Re: poor setwork performance on gigabit link
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:27:12 +0100 jean-francois jfsimon1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I can reach only approx. 8 Mbyte/s on a LAN between the server and the client. The complete network is capable of gigabit yet the speed reaches 15Mb/s then starts to trigger high/low and stabilyses at 8000kb/s. I tried the 2 interfaces of the server (running OpenBSD) with similar results. The client is at 10.0.1.32 the server at 10.0.1.1 - this is the LAN on gigabit link. Could you please see if there are any troubles in those informations below ttha explains this ? After several check of the physics and the software, I run out of idea about this problem and where to look for. Thank you Search the archives, discussed to death in recent weeks.
Re: poor setwork performance on gigabit link
snip net.inet.tcp.recvspace=16384 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=16384 snip http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html Section 6.6.4 -Bryan
Re: poor setwork performance on gigabit link
Sorry but I'm dieing of curiosity, how the heck did you swap a n by a s in your subject ?
Re: poor setwork performance on gigabit link
2010/2/26 Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org: Sorry but I'm dieing of curiosity, how the heck did you swap a n by a s in your subject ? Oooops, forgot dvorak existed.
Re: poor network performance on gigabit link
Le Vendredi 26 Fivrier 2010 19:48:55, Christiano F. Haesbaert a icrit : Sorry but I'm dieing of curiosity, how the heck did you swap a n by a s in your subject ? I can't say. Thanks for the few answers, however I already tried such things as turning the net.inet.tcp.recvspace and net.inet.tcp.sendspace to higher values, yet the result is still the same. I also check the past informations of the list but without finding an answer to my problem yet. I tried from various clients as well, the result is still the same. Regards.
SSH through port SMTP
Hi, I would like to connect via SSH protocol to a remote site running obsd PF in bridge mode where the only externally open port is SMTP, since there is a mail server running. I Thought of setting up PF at the remote site with the following ruleset: rdr on $ext_if inet proto tcp from $myip to any port smtp - 127.0.0.1 port ssh pass in on $ext_if route-to lo0 inet proto tcp from $myip to 127.0.0.1 port ssh But I did not get what I wanted. The connection always times out. Could someone point at what might be wrong or missing. Thanks in advance. Regards, Jose
Re: poor setwork performance on gigabit link
On 2/26/2010 5:27 PM, jean-francois wrote: pciide1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 AHCI rev 0xa2: DMA (unsupported), channel 0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI pciide1: using apic 4 int 11 (irq 11) for native-PCI interrupt wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0:OCZ SOLID_SSD wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 30800MB, 63078400 sectors wd1 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0:WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 953869MB, 1953525168 sectors Eh, running in pio-mode won't help your performance ... I copied 36.1 GB of data in slightly less than 9 minutes for 71 MB/S client: windows vista 64 server: openbsd amd64 kern.bufcachepercent=40 samba socket options = SO_RCVBUF=65536 SO_SNDBUF=65536 em nic, 4K jumbo frames ahci0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 ATI SBx00 SATA rev 0x00: apic 4 int 22 (irq 10), AHCI 1.1 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: ATA, WDC WD10EADS-00L, 01.0 SCSI3 0/direct fixed switch: hp ProCurve 1800-24G
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Re: SSH through port SMTP
You are trying to do something evil by making a bridge pretend it is the host on its other side. Do not do that. Just fix the upstream firewall to pass the management traffic you need to the box. 127.0.0.1 shouldn't arrive on a non-loopback interface. If you wanted to try to do this kind of silly hack, you would use another address and configure it on $ext_if. Where is your ifconfig output and dmesg, anyway?
Badly formatted output for man -k
Hi all,
I installed jre-1.7.0 from packages and add directories to
/etc/man.conf, but when using 'man -k' I can see some messed output.
Is it correct output for those man pages or is is something broken in
my /etc/man.conf ?
$ man -k java
Java IDL: Transient Naming Service (1) - \f2tnameserv
This (1) - document discusses using the Java IDL Transient Naming
Service, \f2tnameserv. Java IDL also includes the Object Request
Broker Daemon (ORBD). ORBD is a daemon process containing a Bootstrap
Service, a Transient Naming Service, a \f3Persistent Naming Service,
and a Server Manager. The Java IDL tutorials all use ORBD, however,
you can substitute \f2tnameserv for \f2orbd in any of the examples
that use a Transient Naming Service. For documentation on the \f2orbd
tool, link to its orbd(1) or the \f2Java IDL Naming Service Included
with ORBD @
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/idl/jidlNaming.html
topic.
\f3See (1) - also: \f2Naming Service @
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/idl/jidlNaming.html
java (1) - the Java application launcher
o (1) - Java IDL Transient Naming Service o Starting the Java IDL
Transient Naming Service o Stopping the Java IDL Transient Naming
Service o Sample Client: Adding Objects to the Namespace o Sample
Client: Browsing the Namespace
rmid (1) - The Java RMI Activation System Daemon
rmiregistry (1) - The Java Remote Object Registry
servertool (1) - The Java(TM) IDL Server Tool
$
$ cat /etc/man.conf
# $OpenBSD: man.conf,v 1.14 2008/04/27 15:10:58 deanna Exp $
# Sheer, raging paranoia...
_versionBSD.2
# The whatis/apropos database.
_whatdb /usr/share/man/whatis.db
_whatdb /usr/local/man/whatis.db
_whatdb /usr/X11R6/man/whatis.db
_whatdb /usr/local/jre-1.7.0/man/whatis.db
# Subdirectories for paths ending in '/', IN SEARCH ORDER.
_subdir cat1 man1 cat8 man8 cat6 man6 cat2 man2 cat3 man3 cat5
man5 cat7 man7 cat4 man4 cat9 ma
n9 cat3p man3p cat3f man3f catn mann
# Files typed by suffix and their commands.
# Note the order: .Z must come after .[1-9n].Z, or it will match first.
_suffix .0
_build .0.Z/usr/bin/zcat %s
_build .0.gz /usr/bin/gzcat %s
_build .[1-9n] /usr/bin/nroff -man %s
_build .[1-9n].Z /usr/bin/zcat %s | /usr/bin/nroff -man
_build .[1-9n].gz /usr/bin/gzcat %s | /usr/bin/nroff -man
_build .[1-9][a-z] /usr/bin/nroff -man %s
_build .[1-9][a-z].Z /usr/bin/zcat %s | /usr/bin/nroff -man
_build .[1-9][a-z].gz /usr/bin/gzcat %s | /usr/bin/nroff -man
_build .tbl/usr/bin/tbl %s | /usr/bin/nroff -man
_build .tbl.Z /usr/bin/zcat %s | /usr/bin/tbl |
/usr/bin/nroff -man
_build .tbl.gz /usr/bin/gzcat %s | /usr/bin/tbl |
/usr/bin/nroff -man
_build .me /usr/bin/nroff -me %s 2/dev/null | cat -s
_build .ms /usr/bin/nroff -ms %s 2/dev/null | cat -s
# Sections and their directories.
# All paths ending in '/' are the equivalent of entries specifying that
# directory with all of the subdirectories listed for the keyword _subdir.
# default
_default/usr/{share,X11R6,local}/man/
_default/usr/local/jre-1.7.0/man/
# Other sections that represent complete man subdirectories.
X11 /usr/X11R6/man/
X11R6 /usr/X11R6/man/
local /usr/local/man/
jre /usr/local/jre-1.7.0/man/
# Specific section/directory combinations.
1 /usr/{share,X11R6,local}/man/{cat,man}1
1 /usr/local/jre-1.7.0/man/man1
2 /usr/{share,X11R6,local}/man/{cat,man}2
3 /usr/{share,X11R6,local}/man/{cat,man}3
3F /usr/local/man/{cat,man}3f
3f /usr/local/man/{cat,man}3f
3P /usr/{share,local}/man/{cat,man}3p
3p /usr/{share,local}/man/{cat,man}3p
4 /usr/{share,X11R6,local}/man/{cat,man}4
5 /usr/{share,X11R6,local}/man/{cat,man}5
6 /usr/{share,X11R6,local}/man/{cat,man}6
7 /usr/{share,X11R6,local}/man/{cat,man}7
8 /usr/{share,X11R6,local}/man/{cat,man}8
9 /usr/share/man/{cat,man}9
n /usr/local/man/{cat,man}n
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Re: poor setwork performance on gigabit link
I think topic is closed. Thanks for notice PIO mode. Network is ok but disk mode is not. Here is the limit, not the network. Regards. Le Vendredi 26 Fivrier 2010 21:04:04, Peter Strvmberg a icrit : On 2/26/2010 5:27 PM, jean-francois wrote: pciide1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 AHCI rev 0xa2: DMA (unsupported), channel 0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI pciide1: using apic 4 int 11 (irq 11) for native-PCI interrupt wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0:OCZ SOLID_SSD wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 30800MB, 63078400 sectors wd1 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0:WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 953869MB, 1953525168 sectors Eh, running in pio-mode won't help your performance ... I copied 36.1 GB of data in slightly less than 9 minutes for 71 MB/S client: windows vista 64 server: openbsd amd64 kern.bufcachepercent=40 samba socket options = SO_RCVBUF=65536 SO_SNDBUF=65536 em nic, 4K jumbo frames ahci0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 ATI SBx00 SATA rev 0x00: apic 4 int 22 (irq 10), AHCI 1.1 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: ATA, WDC WD10EADS-00L, 01.0 SCSI3 0/direct fixed switch: hp ProCurve 1800-24G
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Re: Badly formatted output for man -k
Hi Tomas, i'm answering off the top of my head, so bear with me in case this is not entirely accurate, i'm lacking the time to check the details right now. I installed jre-1.7.0 from packages and add directories to /etc/man.conf, but when using 'man -k' I can see some messed output. What apropos(1) = man -k gives you comes from the whatis database, see makewhatis(8) and weekly(8). Now /usr/libexec/makewhatis is a Perl script parsing installed manual pages, in a rather clever way, trying to extract the information needed by apropos(1). Sometimes, it is astounding what kind of fancy stuff people put into man pages, making it very hard for makewhatis(8) to make head or tail of it. That *may* be the problem here. To make sure, one would need to look at the man pages in question and at the code in /usr/libexec/makewhatis (read it!) and figure out what's happening. Is it correct output for those man pages or is is something broken in my /etc/man.conf ? Very probably, man.conf(5) is not the problem. $ man -k java Java IDL: Transient Naming Service (1) - \f2tnameserv This (1) - document discusses using the Java IDL Transient Naming Might be strangely formatted manual(s) confusing makewhatis(8)... Yours, Ingo
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selling bsd in cd for profit??
Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit??
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On Feb 26, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Citra Cool wrote: Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit?? Probably not.
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
2010/2/27 Kit Halsted li...@kithalsted.com: On Feb 26, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Citra Cool wrote: Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit?? Probably not. You can sell the official CDs. Best Martin
Re: Need advice re: Wistron CM9 and Net 4501
Aaron Mason [simplersolut...@gmail.com] wrote: Firstly, the scanning issue. The CM9 is an industrial card designed for use in wireless links and in IBSS networks. They don't have the ability to search for other access points - they're meant to BE an access point. Bullshit. It's just an atheros chip. Works like any other one. Some of these companies change the RF front end to be more powerful, or whatever. But that doesn't change the features of the chip itself. Secondly, since you've already used a 12V/2.5A (which is actually three times over the top for a board which has a 10W limit), it might be worth considering that maybe the 4501 isn't designed for a wireless card. Maybe it's time for an upgrade to a Geode-based net5501 - or perhaps an ALIX board. A 4511 or 4521 is a possibility. Actually, the mini-pci slot on the 4501 should work. It is a low power board, you may be going over the limit, although I don't remember the CM9 having that high of a draw. Check out the soekris-tech list and its archives to see what the power limit on the 4501's mini-pci slot is and check out CM9 documentation to see what it can draw. Finally, give -current a try. IIRC, some changes were made to the ath atheros driver. A new driver (athn) for new atheros 54xx is in there too. I've never got a CM9 (or _any_ atheros chip) working properly with openbsd beyond basic 802.11b client mode, but then again, I haven't tried in a few years. Other cards seem to work better, the various intel drivers are what most of my systems end up running.
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Citra Cool cc.bel...@gmail.com wrote: Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit?? The OpenBSD project has a hard enough time making money on the CDs they're selling to fund the project. But, give this a read anyway. http://openbsd.org/policy.html
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
Let me clear on this. Yes you can. Follow the BSD licence terms (none of which say anything about for profit) and you are fine. There is absolutely zero legal reason you cannot put together a cd of OpenBSD and sell it. The official CD has some further licencing restrictions, so if you were to copy it verbatim it would constitute a breach of these terms. But if you create your own and sell it. No problem. On 27 February 2010 13:44, Citra Cool cc.bel...@gmail.com wrote: Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit??
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On 27/02/2010, at 3:04 PM, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: Let me clear on this. Yes you can. Follow the BSD licence terms (none of which say anything about for profit) and you are fine. There is absolutely zero legal reason you cannot put together a cd of OpenBSD and sell it. The official CD has some further licencing restrictions, so if you were to copy it verbatim it would constitute a breach of these terms. But if you create your own and sell it. No problem. No problem? Maybe not (I don't know) a legal/licence problem, but you are biting the hand that feeds / killing the golden goose. http://www.openbsd.org/ The project pays for the development environment and developer events by selling CDs ... These finances ensure that OpenBSD will continue to exist ... But I sense another troll ... On 27 February 2010 13:44, Citra Cool cc.bel...@gmail.com wrote: Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit??
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
2010/2/27 Richard Toohey richardtoo...@paradise.net.nz: No problem? Maybe not (I don't know) a legal/licence problem, but you are biting the hand that feeds / killing the golden goose. It's not nice, but legal. And people doing this should wear asbestos here. Best Martin
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
I am not saying that it is in the spirit of the project. Just saying that there is nothing wrong nor preventing you from doing so under the BSD licence. Don't like it? fine. Take your time to a project using a different licence.
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On 2/26/10, Martin SchrC6der mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2010/2/27 Richard Toohey richardtoo...@paradise.net.nz: No problem? Maybe not (I don't know) a legal/licence problem, but you are biting the hand that feeds / killing the golden goose. It's not nice, but legal. And people doing this should wear asbestos here. Best Martin I know the BSD Certification group includes a base OS for i386 on their CD - they sell that CD for $40, but it's not for profit, nor is it anywhere near what the official CD set offers. Now that I have the 4.6 one, I'm very happy with my CD's. Really don't know how you could sell OpenBSD for profit unless you play on someone's ignorance - everything is out there on the internet. Befuddled or sucessfully trolled, Carl T.
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 03:37:10PM +1300, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: I am not saying that it is in the spirit of the project. Just saying that there is nothing wrong nor preventing you from doing so under the BSD licence. Don't like it? fine. Take your time to a project using a different licence. Take the source and do what you want. That's the BSD way. Take the copyright layout, artwork, name. etc. and put your legal team on a large retainer. And your asbestos underwear. Ken
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
2010/2/26 Carl Trachte ctrac...@gmail.com On 2/26/10, Martin SchrC6der mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2010/2/27 Richard Toohey richardtoo...@paradise.net.nz: No problem? Maybe not (I don't know) a legal/licence problem, but you are biting the hand that feeds / killing the golden goose. It's not nice, but legal. And people doing this should wear asbestos here. Best Martin I know the BSD Certification group includes a base OS for i386 on their CD - they sell that CD for $40, but it's not for profit, nor is it anywhere near what the official CD set offers. Now that I have the 4.6 one, I'm very happy with my CD's. Really don't know how you could sell OpenBSD for profit unless you play on someone's ignorance - everything is out there on the internet. Befuddled or sucessfully trolled, Carl T. I am Happy with 4.3 (the best one), 4.5, 4.6 and i am from a third world country: Ecuador!!! I don4t sell the cds, maybe the originals, I just give away the downloadable one :) -- Atentamente Andris Genovez Tobar / Sistemas COMERCIAL SALVADOR PACHECO MORA S.A. / DESDE 1945 Tecnologmas Cuenca, Av. 27 de Febrero y Jacinto Flores Esq. http://www.cspmsa.com Telifono. 593-7-2842388 ext 408 Fax. 593-7-2842388 ext 120 Celular: 593-97670874 PIN BB: 258F58F4 Jabber: bitfr...@asgard.crice.org MSN: andresgeno...@msn.com Mail: ageno...@cspmsa.com Personal: andresgeno...@gmail.com http://www.crice.org
Acer Aspire One D250-1838 mouse problem
Short Story: I have an Acer Aspire One D250-1838 whose trackpad mouse stops working after a couple of seconds on OpenBSD 4.3 and later, including all current snapshots. The mouse works fine on OpenBSD 4.0 to 4.2. The mouse behaves correctly when running 'od /dev/wsmouse' for a couple of seconds of use, and then it stops responding. It also doesn't respond if I leave the mouse alone for the couple of seconds and then try to use it. Running 'wsmoused -f' also shows the same behavior. Long Story: I've been trying to find the differences in code between OpenBSD 4.2 and 4.3 regarding the mouse device. I've been using the CVS web interface to find the differences in those files. I haven't seen anything that seems relevant. I inserted several printf's into the kernel source using cscope to try and trace the flow of data from the device to kernel to user. So far, I haven't been able to really figure out the path. I'm guessing the flow somewhat follows bus_space_read_1 - pckbcintr_internal - pmsinput - wsmouse_input. I've briefly scanned http://www.openbsd.org/papers/opencon06-drivers/index.html. I'd appreciate if someone could give me some pointers to try to solve the problem. Thanks. The files I've looked at are the following: /usr/src/sys/dev/wscons wsconsio.h wsevent.c wseventvar.h wsmouse.c wsmoused.h wsmousevar.h wsmux.c wsmuxvar.h /usr/src/sys/dev/pckbc pms.c pms_intelli.c pmsreg.h /usr/src/sys/dev/ic io8042reg.h pckbc.c pckbcvar.h /usr/src/sys/dev/isa pckbc_isa.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/wsmoused/ mouse_protocols.c mouse_protocols.h wsmoused.c wsmoused.h Here is my dmesg using snapshot 2/25/2010: OpenBSD 4.7-beta (GENERIC.MP) #424: Thu Feb 25 16:12:49 MST 2010 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR real mem = 1062260736 (1013MB) avail mem = 1020530688 (973MB) RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/28/09, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe8240 (31 entries) bios0: vendor Acer version V1.21 date 09/28/2009 bios0: Acer Aspire one acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ASF! SLIC BOOT acpi0: wakeup devices UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) ECHI(S3) ECH2(S3) EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) AZAL(S0) MODM(S0) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (EXP1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP2) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP3) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP4) acpiec0 at acpi0 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS acpipwrres0 at acpi0: FN00 acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 100 degC acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID0 acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 14132307362336085 type Lion oem PANASONIC acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit offline acpivideo0 at acpi0: OVGA acpivout0 at acpivideo0: CRT1 acpivout1 at acpivideo0: DTV1 acpivout2 at acpivideo0: DFP1 acpivout3 at acpivideo0: LCD_ acpivout4 at acpivideo0: DTV2 acpivout5 at acpivideo0: DFP2 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xec00! cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1663 MHz: speeds: 1333, 1066, 800 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GME Host rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GME Video rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0x4000, size 0x1000 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11) drm0 at inteldrm0 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11) azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC272 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 (irq 255) pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 athn0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Atheros AR9281 rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11), address 0c:ee:e6:99:57:b5 athn0: AR9280 rev 2 (2T2R), ROM rev 22 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On Friday 26 February 2010 21:25:51 Richard Toohey wrote: On 27/02/2010, at 3:04 PM, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: Let me clear on this. Yes you can. Follow the BSD licence terms (none of which say anything about for profit) and you are fine. There is absolutely zero legal reason you cannot put together a cd of OpenBSD and sell it. The official CD has some further licencing restrictions, so if you were to copy it verbatim it would constitute a breach of these terms. But if you create your own and sell it. No problem. No problem? Maybe not (I don't know) a legal/licence problem, but you are biting the hand that feeds / killing the golden goose. http://www.openbsd.org/ The project pays for the development environment and developer events by selling CDs ... These finances ensure that OpenBSD will continue to exist ... But I sense another troll ... I don't. A lot of people are genuinely confused curious about this BSD thing, the operating system and license. The number of times I've explained (or tried to) the BSD license vs. GPL numbers in the dozens now. People here are far too quick to label questions like this as trolling. Sure, there are people who like to stir the pot up, but there are a lot more clueless people out there--clueless meaning not understanding, where we all were, at one point. --STeve Andre' On 27 February 2010 13:44, Citra Cool cc.bel...@gmail.com wrote: Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit??
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
Yea for Steve! Mehma === On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:37 PM, STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote: On Friday 26 February 2010 21:25:51 Richard Toohey wrote: On 27/02/2010, at 3:04 PM, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: Let me clear on this. Yes you can. Follow the BSD licence terms (none of which say anything about for profit) and you are fine. There is absolutely zero legal reason you cannot put together a cd of OpenBSD and sell it. The official CD has some further licencing restrictions, so if you were to copy it verbatim it would constitute a breach of these terms. But if you create your own and sell it. No problem. No problem? Maybe not (I don't know) a legal/licence problem, but you are biting the hand that feeds / killing the golden goose. http://www.openbsd.org/ The project pays for the development environment and developer events by selling CDs ... These finances ensure that OpenBSD will continue to exist ... But I sense another troll ... I don't. A lot of people are genuinely confused curious about this BSD thing, the operating system and license. The number of times I've explained (or tried to) the BSD license vs. GPL numbers in the dozens now. People here are far too quick to label questions like this as trolling. Sure, there are people who like to stir the pot up, but there are a lot more clueless people out there--clueless meaning not understanding, where we all were, at one point. --STeve Andre' On 27 February 2010 13:44, Citra Cool cc.bel...@gmail.com wrote: Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit??
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:37:38PM -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: I don't. A lot of people are genuinely confused curious about this BSD thing, the operating system and license. The number of times I've explained (or tried to) the BSD license vs. GPL numbers in the dozens now. You could sell it for profit too if OpenBSD were GPLed, or any other free software license. -- Victor Cortiano victorcorti...@gmail.com victortc.awardspace.info -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:12:53 -0300, Victor Tarabola Cortiano wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:37:38PM -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: I don't. A lot of people are genuinely confused curious about this BSD thing, the operating system and license. The number of times I've explained (or tried to) the BSD license vs. GPL numbers in the dozens now. You could sell it for profit too if OpenBSD were GPLed, or any other free software license. Now, that sounds like trolling to me or else severe ignorance. As some earlier poster/s stated, you can sell an OpenBSD CD for a profit. Just not a literal copy of the release CD. As for being able to do it with GPL CDs - Try doing it with HedRat, particularly any of the RHEL lines. You'll find out quickly that the licence doesn't get you anywhere when HatRed's lawyers are on your case. That's why Centos is carefully re-engineered. *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I am subscribed to the list. Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to reply off list. Thankyou. Rod/ --- This life is not the real thing. It is not even in Beta. If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
Re: managing routes for multiple PPPoE connections
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2010-02-26, Edwin Eyan Moragas haa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: ah, the thing that mightn't have been apparent with my suggestion of route-to, is that my default route points out of a normal ethernet interface, which stays up all the time so i guess i should remove the callout from hostname.pppoe to adding a default route? thank you for the assist. :) it's slightly more complicated, as you have to have *some* default route otherwise the packets don't get as far as PF, so the route-to rules can't be used. ugh! getting more complicated. can i grovel at your feet and ask for a simplified sample for hostname.pppoe and pf.conf?
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On 27 February 2010 01:44, Citra Cool cc.bel...@gmail.com wrote: Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit?? I'm not sure if I understand your question. Are you: (a) asking if you can (re-)sell legally obtained official OpenBSD CDs for a profit, or are you (b) asking if you can copy official OpenBSD CDs and sell the unaltered copies for a profit, or (c) are you asking if you can download/copy OpenBSD, create your own CD without using OpenBSD's copyrighted artwork, disc layout or trademarks, and sell your derivative CDs for a profit? Anyway: (a) -- yes, (b) -- no, (c) -- yes. But keep in mind that there's a difference between things you are legally allowed to do, and things that are liked and encouraged here. Option (a) will make you a lot more popular here than option (c). regards, --ropers
Re: Badly formatted output for man -k
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:48:50PM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: Hi all, I installed jre-1.7.0 from packages and add directories to /etc/man.conf, but when using 'man -k' I can see some messed output. Is it correct output for those man pages or is is something broken in my /etc/man.conf ? $ man -k java Java IDL: Transient Naming Service (1) - \f2tnameserv This (1) - document discusses using the Java IDL Transient Naming Service, \f2tnameserv. Java IDL also includes the Object Request Broker Daemon (ORBD). ORBD is a daemon process containing a Bootstrap Service, a Transient Naming Service, a \f3Persistent Naming Service, and a Server Manager. The Java IDL tutorials all use ORBD, however, you can substitute \f2tnameserv for \f2orbd in any of the examples that use a Transient Naming Service. For documentation on the \f2orbd tool, link to its orbd(1) or the \f2Java IDL Naming Service Included with ORBD @ http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/idl/jidlNaming.html topic. \f3See (1) - also: \f2Naming Service @ http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/idl/jidlNaming.html java (1) - the Java application launcher o (1) - Java IDL Transient Naming Service o Starting the Java IDL Transient Naming Service o Stopping the Java IDL Transient Naming Service o Sample Client: Adding Objects to the Namespace o Sample Client: Browsing the Namespace rmid (1) - The Java RMI Activation System Daemon rmiregistry (1) - The Java Remote Object Registry servertool (1) - The Java(TM) IDL Server Tool $ it will be the man page at fault, i suspect. can you mail the port maintainer and ask them to have a look? jmc
Re: Badly formatted output for man -k
Ok, I will write to maintainer of port. I found that eg. this messed part This (1) - document discusses using the Java IDL Transient Naming Service, \f2tnameserv. Java IDL also includes the Object Request is in /usr/local/jre-1.7.0/man/man1/tnameserv.1 and was generated by html2man On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Jason McIntyre j...@kerhand.co.uk wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:48:50PM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: Hi all, I installed jre-1.7.0 from packages and add directories to /etc/man.conf, but when using 'man -k' I can see some messed output. Is it correct output for those man pages or is is something broken in my /etc/man.conf ? $ man -k java Java IDL: Transient Naming Service (1) - \f2tnameserv This (1) - document discusses using the Java IDL Transient Naming Service, \f2tnameserv. Java IDL also includes the Object Request Broker Daemon (ORBD). ORBD is a daemon process containing a Bootstrap Service, a Transient Naming Service, a \f3Persistent Naming Service, and a Server Manager. The Java IDL tutorials all use ORBD, however, you can substitute \f2tnameserv for \f2orbd in any of the examples that use a Transient Naming Service. For documentation on the \f2orbd tool, link to its orbd(1) or the \f2Java IDL Naming Service Included with ORBD @ http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/idl/jidlNaming.html topic. \f3See (1) - also: \f2Naming Service @ http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/idl/jidlNaming.html java (1) - the Java application launcher o (1) - Java IDL Transient Naming Service o Starting the Java IDL Transient Naming Service o Stopping the Java IDL Transient Naming Service o Sample Client: Adding Objects to the Namespace o Sample Client: Browsing the Namespace rmid (1) - The Java RMI Activation System Daemon rmiregistry (1) - The Java Remote Object Registry servertool (1) - The Java(TM) IDL Server Tool $ it will be the man page at fault, i suspect. can you mail the port maintainer and ask them to have a look? jmc -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
