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Re: PF and States
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 11:22:08PM -0500, Godesi wrote: 1. Do I need pf for relayd when I am not doing redirects? I don't think so, but this is easy for you to test... 2. How much states can i really have on a box that has 4 gig ram? More than 100,000. I havn't tested lately (planning to do so soo), but I would expect somewhere closer to 500,000. Is it governed by how much mem is allocated to kernel? Yes. Can I change that? Not directly. In fact, having too much RAM in your box will COST you memory, as more kernel memory is used up tracking all your RAM. So cutting your ram to 2 GB will probably improve the upper limit, though it doesn't seem that that's the limit you are hitting. What does 'pfctl -vvsi' show when this problem is happening?
Re: Help with snmpd...
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Bales, Tracy tracy.ba...@williams.com wrote: I'm running 4.8 on an i386 platform. I have snmpd running with 300 custom MIB's installed via snmpd.conf. I've confirmed that they're installed using net-snmp's snmpwalk program. Each of my MIB's is an integer value...no strings. Question: Has anyone written their own C code to update/change the MIB values? If so, could you point me in the direction on how to do this? I'm really trying to figure this out for myself so I'm not looking for a full-blown solution, just a tip here and there or a simple example! FYI...I have been studying the OpenBSD C source files for snmpd.c, snmpe.c and mps.c Thanks! Which snmpd are you talking about ? If you're looking at net-snmp you can try the pass or pass_persist directives for easy extensions, for the snmpd that's shipped with openbsd you'll have to patch it.
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soekris + openbsd server buy question
Hello, I'm considering buying a Soekris net5501-70 and install OpenBSD on it to make myself a small server and use it as a proxy (ssh tunnel), it might serve as backup file sever as well. I guess at the most there will be two-three computers connnected at the same time, and there might be some streaming video going through, like the videos you find on online newspapers. I have googled around, and read that this kind of hardware is fine as a router but not so much as a server. Is it true? Thank you for any suggestions. I was also considering using a netbook for the task. What about it? Thanks in advance.
Re: soekris + openbsd server buy question
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Matt Bettinger wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:28 AM, shweg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm considering buying a Soekris net5501-70 and install OpenBSD on it to make myself a small server and use it as a proxy (ssh tunnel), it might serve as backup file sever as well. I guess at the most there will be two-three computers connnected at the same time, and there might be some streaming video going through, like the videos you find on online newspapers. I have googled around, and read that this kind of hardware is fine as a router but not so much as a server. Is it true? Thank you for any suggestions. I was also considering using a netbook for the task. What about it? Thanks in advance. Hi, I have an net5501-70 myself and have been using it for last few years as my gateway. It can handle a couple of ipsec connections and handle ~5-7 devices connected behind it. It can get bogged down on the network interrupts on the card. Say, for example when multiple torrents are running off my DMZ.I really do not think it would act as a good file server. I would NOT use a laptop as a file server either. My file server I use is OpenBSD on an dell crap box with mirror raid. By the way, I run current on everything. re, mb So, if I use it only for ssh tunneling both soekris and netbook would be fine? Of course, it has to be on 24*7.
Re: soekris + openbsd server buy question
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:28 AM, shweg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm considering buying a Soekris net5501-70 and install OpenBSD on it to make myself a small server and use it as a proxy (ssh tunnel), it might serve as backup file sever as well. I guess at the most there will be two-three computers connnected at the same time, and there might be some streaming video going through, like the videos you find on online newspapers. I have googled around, and read that this kind of hardware is fine as a router but not so much as a server. Is it true? Thank you for any suggestions. I was also considering using a netbook for the task. What about it? Thanks in advance. I own a 45xx series Soekris system which handles DMZ traffic (2 low load production web servers + RCS repositories, and 3 build systems for MariaDB), internal traffic (my home network for streaming movies and internet access) and ssh access to my DMZ just fine. The specifications for the Soekris system you mentioned don't lead me to be believe they'd be great for file server duty. When I think of file servers I think of fast disk (5501 can use SATA so that's a plus) coupled with a battery backed RAID controller with gobs of cache and redundancy somewhere preserving my data in case of disk failure. If your disk goes on the 5501 I imagine you're toast unless you have a continual backup process that doesn't chew your available bandwidth to zero. So, if I use it only for ssh tunneling both soekris and netbook would be fine? Of course, it has to be on 24*7. When I think of these machines and similar ones I think configuration file backup and restore. What I mean by that is you should be OK with waking up one day and finding your machine dead but able to get backup and running in a less than 20 minutes using a new device and your configuration file backups. I am NOT implying Soekris boards are unreliable, I love mine and would buy more if I needed to, but I am saying that planning for failure should be one of the first things considered when you're constructing a critical piece of your home/business network.
Re: soekris + openbsd server buy question
Le Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:28:19 +0800 (CST), shweg...@gmail.com a icrit : Hello, I'm considering buying a Soekris net5501-70 and install OpenBSD on it to make myself a small server and use it as a proxy (ssh tunnel), it might serve as backup file sever as well. I guess at the most there will be two-three computers connnected at the same time, and there might be some streaming video going through, like the videos you find on online newspapers. I have googled around, and read that this kind of hardware is fine as a router but not so much as a server. Is it true? Thank you for any suggestions. It depends on the connection, do not expect a 100M/bits link. I use a net5501 for my all-in-one box (file server (samba), printers share, router, ...). The file server is not very speed but is enougth for doing backups. (From time to time, backup the server to an external usb disk). I was also considering using a netbook for the task. What about it? I don't think a netbook will be reliable running 24/24. This was my only concern on the net5501, the reliablity of the internal 2.5 disk drive, looks good after 3 years. Check the soekris-tech mailing list, questions about performances are often asked.
Re: soekris + openbsd server buy question
Le Fri, 3 Dec 2010 08:44:43 -0500, Adam M. Dutko dutko.a...@gmail.com a icrit : The specifications for the Soekris system you mentioned don't lead me to be believe they'd be great for file server duty. When I think of file servers I think of fast disk (5501 can use SATA so that's a plus) On the net5501 this is not a real SATA, the box uses a PATA-SATA adapter behind the cs5536 chipset.
Re: soekris + openbsd server buy question
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: Le Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:28:19 +0800 (CST), shweg...@gmail.com a C)crit : Hello, I'm considering buying a Soekris net5501-70 and install OpenBSD on it to make myself a small server and use it as a proxy (ssh tunnel), it might serve as backup file sever as well. I guess at the most there will be two-three computers connnected at the same time, and there might be some streaming video going through, like the videos you find on online newspapers. I have googled around, and read that this kind of hardware is fine as a router but not so much as a server. Is it true? Thank you for any suggestions. It depends on the connection, do not expect a 100M/bits link. I use a net5501 for my all-in-one box (file server (samba), printers share, router, ...). The file server is not very speed but is enougth for doing backups. (From time to time, backup the server to an external usb disk). I was also considering using a netbook for the task. What about it? I don't think a netbook will be reliable running 24/24. This was my only concern on the net5501, the reliablity of the internal 2.5 disk drive, looks good after 3 years. Check the soekris-tech mailing list, questions about performances are often asked. Thank you all, I don't need cutting-edge speed, and from what you say, Soekris should just be fine. For file server I have not been clear, in fact I meant a backup server, so it should probably handle all of it quite fine. I'm also checking out a few fanless Atom mini-pcs, but at about the same price soekris is probably more fit for the job.
Re: soekris + openbsd server buy question
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:13 AM, gimes...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: Le Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:28:19 +0800 (CST), shweg...@gmail.com a C)crit : Hello, I'm considering buying a Soekris net5501-70 and install OpenBSD on it to make myself a small server and use it as a proxy (ssh tunnel), it might serve as backup file sever as well. I guess at the most there will be two-three computers connnected at the same time, and there might be some streaming video going through, like the videos you find on online newspapers. I have googled around, and read that this kind of hardware is fine as a router but not so much as a server. Is it true? Thank you for any suggestions. It depends on the connection, do not expect a 100M/bits link. I use a net5501 for my all-in-one box (file server (samba), printers share, router, ...). The file server is not very speed but is enougth for doing backups. (From time to time, backup the server to an external usb disk). I was also considering using a netbook for the task. What about it? I don't think a netbook will be reliable running 24/24. This was my only concern on the net5501, the reliablity of the internal 2.5 disk drive, looks good after 3 years. Check the soekris-tech mailing list, questions about performances are often asked. Thank you all, I don't need cutting-edge speed, and from what you say, Soekris should just be fine. For file server I have not been clear, in fact I meant a backup server, so it should probably handle all of it quite fine. I'm also checking out a few fanless Atom mini-pcs, but at about the same price soekris is probably more fit for the job. I've been using one of these for the last couple of months and have been happy with it's performance. The IPMI capabilities are very nice. http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/#Atom http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/#Atom http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm The only thing I don't care for on it is the trusted platform module chip. The boards have a jumper to disable the chip, but the pins on the motherboard have been removed, so you can not disable it without some soldering.
Re: soekris + openbsd server buy question
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:28 AM, shweg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm considering buying a Soekris net5501-70 and install OpenBSD on it to make myself a small server and use it as a proxy (ssh tunnel), it might serve as backup file sever as well. I guess at the most there will be two-three computers connnected at the same time, and there might be some streaming video going through, like the videos you find on online newspapers. I have googled around, and read that this kind of hardware is fine as a router but not so much as a server. Is it true? Thank you for any suggestions. I was also considering using a netbook for the task. What about it? the only reason i don't/wouldn't use my soekris as a server (actually, i do use it as a dns and dhcp server) is limited storage. a single 2.5in disk is not my ideal backup server configuration.
Re: soekris + openbsd server buy question
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm I've built up several of the EHF variety for both firewall and server purposes. The EHF model supersedes the PHF with a smaller board that provides room to make use of the included riser card. It is not fanless but the fan can be virtually disabled via the BIOS. The embedded IPMI support is really superb, providing serial over LAN, virtual CD floppy, etc. Intel NIC's with PXE support. Yada, yada, yada...highly recommended.
Re: PF and States
Thanks Ryan! Unfortunately when this happened I was remote and could not grab those stats. But what should I be looking for in term of badness. Maybe I can quickly setup something to monitor for particular stat. Really appreciate your input. Thx. On 12/3/10 12:41 AM, Ryan McBride wrote: On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 11:22:08PM -0500, Godesi wrote: 1. Do I need pf for relayd when I am not doing redirects? I don't think so, but this is easy for you to test... 2. How much states can i really have on a box that has 4 gig ram? More than 100,000. I havn't tested lately (planning to do so soo), but I would expect somewhere closer to 500,000. Is it governed by how much mem is allocated to kernel? Yes. Can I change that? Not directly. In fact, having too much RAM in your box will COST you memory, as more kernel memory is used up tracking all your RAM. So cutting your ram to 2 GB will probably improve the upper limit, though it doesn't seem that that's the limit you are hitting. What does 'pfctl -vvsi' show when this problem is happening?
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Re: help gateway 4.8
hi, dear friend both cables ( cable 1 and 2 ) are crossover and is conectic like this, and no internet in client, help please ADSL (router ext) 192.168.1.1 ( cable 1 ) | | xl0 192.168.1.101 ( cable 1) gatewayopenbsd4.8- xl1 192.168.0.1( cable 2) | | Client 192.168.0.10 ( cable 2) * 2010/12/2, Jan Johansson janj+open...@wenf.org: david carrasco dacar...@gmail.com wrote: answer your question, i believe the problern is static routing setting on all cable is okey please help, with set up static client,gateway, and router (dsl ext) On gateway start tcpdump -i xl1 gateway.my.domain (192.168.0.1) at 00:60:97:be:ca:2a on xl1 static ? (192.168.1.1) at 00:1d:0f:fc:95:de on xl0 * then on client start ping 192.168.0.1. Do you see the packets? / --- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss /// After you stop the ping run arp -a on both client and gateway. Do you see an entry for the other host? in gateway gateway.my.domain (192.168.0.1) at 00:60:97:be:ca:2a on xl1 static ? (192.168.1.1) at 00:1d:0f:fc:95:de on xl0 in client /// nothing out screen /// I am having a hard time following what you are saying. On the gateway run ping 192.168.0.10 when you stop that run arp -a in the output you should see one of thease lines: This one means your layer 2 such as cable is broken. ? (192.168.0.10) at (incomplete) on xl1 This one means your layer 3 such as packet filter is broken. ? (192.168.0.10) at 00:0c:76:bb:00:5a on xl1 But as another subscriber noted: vr0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier and xl1: flags=8a43UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,ALLMULTI,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier which means neither your gateway or your client has a working cable. Are you using a switch or are these machines connected to each other with a direct cable? If you are using a direct cable you will need a crossover cable as 100baseTX does not support auto MDI/MDI-X.
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Re: help gateway 4.8
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM, david carrasco dacar...@gmail.com wrote: hi, dear friend both cables ( cable 1 and 2 ) are crossover and is conectic like this, and no internet in client, help please ADSL (router ext) 192.168.1.1 ( cable 1 ) | | xl0 192.168.1.101 ( cable 1) gatewayopenbsd4.8- xl1 192.168.0.1( cable 2) | | Client 192.168.0.10 ( cable 2) I'm guessing the ADSL router is a typical NAT router, and that your OpenBSD router is *not* configured for NAT. as a result, the ADSL router is seeing outbound packets from 192.168.0.10, but doesn't know how to deliver the inbound responses. it knows that the 192.168.1/24 network is reachable via one of its own LAN ports, but I'm guessing that it doesn't know how to reach the 192.168.0/24 network. you need a static route defined on the ADSL router telling it that for the 192.168.0/24 network, the next hop router is at 192.168.1.101. -ken
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Re: help gateway 4.8
david carrasco dacar...@gmail.com wrote: hi, dear friend both cables ( cable 1 and 2 ) are crossover and is conectic like this, and no internet in client, help please From the ifconfig output it is obvious that there is a problem with cable 2. It is either the cable or the network interface card. They should har lights that should be lit when everything is corret. For instance are the lights the same on both of xl0 and xl1? There could also be some kind of issue with auto negotiation. Do you have any other network equipment at hand that you can use to check the cable and network cards? Are you really sure you are using cross over cables? In my experience ADSL Modems are made like a switch and therefor has no problem beeing connected to a host directly. Your other connection is between hosts and therefor (in the 100MBit case) must use a special cable. You can use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable to verify that you have an crossover cable.
