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Re: pfctl: DIOCADDRULE: Operation not supported by device
* roberth rob...@openbsd.pap.st [2011-05-09 00:29]: On the otherhand, i have been running -current for years and never have had any problem with building source with the previouse kernel (without reboot) that i can remember. Maybe my 3 digit amount of builds isn't enough or i built at the wrong states of the tree. indeed. it is not exactly the first time pf ioctls changed. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
Re: pfctl: DIOCADDRULE: Operation not supported by device
On 2011-05-08, Chris Smith obsd_m...@chrissmith.org wrote: After an update to -current yesterday Internet access was lost as pf.conf could not be loaded. The error message was: pfctl: DIOCADDRULE: Operation not supported by device Address translation would break but you should still be able to get into the machine. This error occurred after upgrading the kernel and then rebooting. After userland was brought up to date as well and the system rebooted everything was fine. The system in question was local so outside of being offline for the amount of time it took to build userland there wasn't a lot to worry about. What I'm concerned with is this being an issue on a remote system where not being able to get back in after rebooting with just an updated kernel would (if it happened) be a serious issue. I would *very strongly* recommend out of band management of some sort for any important remote machine. Whether it's serial console, KVM/IP, or a remote management card (one with dedicated nic; there are good reasons why openbsd doesn't support the shared nic cards). If you skip this, it's more important than usual to the same upgrade path on the same type of machine locally first. There's usually no problem, but sometimes you get unlucky with various code changes.
heimdal-1.4
I am trying to update OpenBSD's Kerberos to Heimdal 1.4. I took a diff between heimdal-0.7.2 and src/kerberosV/src, and manually applied those changes to heimdal-1.4. I also updated the files in kerberosV/include/ and kerberosV/openbsd-vers/. The next, possibly bigger, step is to update the Makefiles in the OpenBSD build tree, but I don't understand the build system well enough. It seems to involve translating Heimdal's Makefile.am's into OpenBSD makefiles. Here's a tarball with two patches (one for the small CVS changes I could do, one for the heimdal-1.4 source) and a script `prepare.sh'. The script uses the patch `heimdal-1.4-obsd.patch' and a `heimdal-1.4.tar.gz' tarball to create something suitable to replace kerberosV/src/ (it removes the same files removed when heimdal-0.7.2 was merged into OpenBSD). http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~markus/misc/heimdal-1.4-obsd.tar.gz I guess I'm hoping somebody knows what to do with these Makefiles.
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Re: pfctl: DIOCADDRULE: Operation not supported by device
On 05/08/2011 03:05 PM, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 02:54:21PM -0400, Chris Smith wrote: After an update to -current yesterday Internet access was lost as pf.conf could not be loaded. The error message was: pfctl: DIOCADDRULE: Operation not supported by device This error occurred after upgrading the kernel and then rebooting. After userland was brought up to date as well and the system rebooted everything was fine. The system in question was local so outside of being offline for the amount of time it took to build userland there wasn't a lot to worry about. What I'm concerned with is this being an issue on a remote system where not being able to get back in after rebooting with just an updated kernel would (if it happened) be a serious issue. Is there a good way to avoid this? Is it safe to skip rebooting between the kernel build and userland build? Or would it work to manually build and install pfctl before the reboot after the kernel build? Or something else that hasn't occurred to me yet? Thanks, Chris NO, it's not always safe to skip rebooting, not is it always safe to reboot, as you have exerrienced. The advise in http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html 5.2, last paragraph is there for a reason. -Otto as is the rest of FAQ 5.2, questioning why you are building the system from source, and 5.3.2, which is install the closest snapshot. So yes, there are good ways to avoid this problem -- follow the instructions. Nick.
Re: FYI: OpenBSD 4.9 CDs arriving
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Dmesg for thinkpad x220 ?
Hi, does anyone have a dmesg for a thinkpad x220 ? Mail me off list please. Thanks.
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OpenBSD on a SDHC or a microSDHC card - tips
I'm trying to get tips how to run OpenBSD on a SDHC or a MicroSDHC card. I'm not really interested in the install, I can do that. I'm searching for solutions regarding the problems running it on an (micro?)SDHC card. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12502/openbsd-on-a-sdhc-or-an-microsdhc-card-tips e.g.: How to run OBSD in memory? (RAMFS?) Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!
Re: pfctl: DIOCADDRULE: Operation not supported by device
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: as is the rest of FAQ 5.2, questioning why you are building the system from source, and 5.3.2, which is install the closest snapshot. It's been running -current for quite some time (and the original install was from the latest snapshot), usually update every week or two, this time there were three weeks in between.
Re: OpenBSD on a SDHC or a microSDHC card - tips
On Sun, 08 May 2011 09:28:23 -0700 lancebaynes87 lancebayne...@zoho.com wrote: I'm not really interested in the install, I can do that. I'm searching for solutions regarding the problems running it on an (micro?)SDHC card. What problems? Just use it like any other kind of drive. Need a knob to fiddle? Try kern.bufcachepercent . The effect will be more prominent with slow drives like sd-cards.
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Re: Dmesg for thinkpad x220 ?
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Squid on LAN
Hi list. I've a question about positioning a proxy server into the LAN. I've tried this in dmz (also in transparent mode + rdr pf), and works great, but now I'm trying to put this proxy in LAN. Also in this case it works, but when I try to set it in transparent mode, and put rdr rules on the firewall (OpenBSD 4.8): match in on $int proto tcp from $int:network to any port 80 rdr-to $proxy port 3128 it does not work, and the request seems not be redirected on the proxy. I've ridden this: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html I'm trying to get solution only with pf rules without no results. Could some point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance
Re: OpenBSD on a SDHC or a microSDHC card - tips
On Sun, 8 May 2011, lancebaynes87 wrote: I'm trying to get tips how to run OpenBSD on a SDHC or a MicroSDHC card. I'm not really interested in the install, I can do that. I'm searching for solutions regarding the problems running it on an (micro?)SDHC card. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12502/openbsd-on-a-sdhc-or-an-microsdhc-card-tips e.g.: How to run OBSD in memory? (RAMFS?) Any help would be appreciated. Thank you! you could reserve minimum amount for /usr/obj (2G or less consumed) /usr/xobj (1G or less consumed) in your fs layout. Then I do, umount /usr/obj mount_mfs MY_DEV_PARTITION /usr/obj I know my /usr/obj becomes dummy and a waste of space, but I stick close to default recommendations. And then I run the userland or xenocara build, and reboot. I make sure no obvious errors as this is not a cron job. This is really to save the writes, but anyway I use hard disks. I am just fiddling so wait for a more authorative opinion. Thanks, amit
Re: Squid on LAN
If possible, put the proxy server on a different vlan. If you can't, try the method in http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html#rdrnat It works, but your proxy logs will then only show the firewall's address rather than the original client addresses. On 2011-05-09, Alessandro Baggi alessandro.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list. I've a question about positioning a proxy server into the LAN. I've tried this in dmz (also in transparent mode + rdr pf), and works great, but now I'm trying to put this proxy in LAN. Also in this case it works, but when I try to set it in transparent mode, and put rdr rules on the firewall (OpenBSD 4.8): match in on $int proto tcp from $int:network to any port 80 rdr-to $proxy port 3128 it does not work, and the request seems not be redirected on the proxy. I've ridden this: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html I'm trying to get solution only with pf rules without no results. Could some point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance
Re: Squid on LAN
On 2011/05/09 16:31, R0me0 *** wrote: You can too try this: pass in on $int proto tcp from $int:network to port www route-to ( $dmz $ip_of_squid ) pass out on $dmz proto tcp to $ip_of_squid to port www This won't work for machines on the same subnet as the proxy. In that case the return traffic (proxy-client) will bypass the firewall so PF only sees half of the packets so state tracking will break things. (It might initially appear to work but try a larger download and watch for the connection breaking).
enable MFS for RAMDISK_CD on amd64
This patch enables MFS in RAMDISK_CD, adds the MFS flag to
distrib/special/newfs binary and creates the sbin/mount_mfs link for instbin.
ted dot roby at gmail dot com
Index: distrib/amd64/common/list
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/distrib/amd64/common/list,v
retrieving revision 1.24
diff -u -r1.24 list
--- distrib/amd64/common/list 18 Oct 2010 04:07:49 - 1.24
+++ distrib/amd64/common/list 7 May 2011 22:15:11 -
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
LINK instbin sbin/mount_ffs
LINK instbin sbin/reboot sbin/halt
LINK instbin sbin/kbd
-LINK instbin sbin/newfs
+LINK instbin sbin/newfs sbin/mount_mfs
LINK instbin sbin/ping
LINK instbin sbin/restore
LINK instbin sbin/route
Index: distrib/special/newfs/Makefile
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/distrib/special/newfs/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.2 Makefile
--- distrib/special/newfs/Makefile 28 Oct 2009 07:36:49 - 1.2
+++ distrib/special/newfs/Makefile 7 May 2011 22:15:11 -
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
PROG= newfs
SRCS= dkcksum.c getmntopts.c newfs.c mkfs.c
-CFLAGS+= -I${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/mount
+CFLAGS+=-DMFS -I${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/mount
.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/newfs
.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/mount
.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/disklabel
Index: sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD,v
retrieving revision 1.116
diff -u -r1.116 RAMDISK_CD
--- sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD 3 Apr 2011 12:32:05 - 1.116
+++ sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD 7 May 2011 22:15:32 -
@@ -15,6 +15,7 @@
option FFS # UFS
option FFS2# UFS2
#optionEXT2FS # Linux ext2fs
+option MFS
option NFSCLIENT # Network File System client
Re: Squid on LAN
You can too try this: pass in on $int proto tcp from $int:network to port www route-to ( $dmz $ip_of_squid ) pass out on $dmz proto tcp to $ip_of_squid to port www Cheers 2011/5/9 Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org If possible, put the proxy server on a different vlan. If you can't, try the method in http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html#rdrnat It works, but your proxy logs will then only show the firewall's address rather than the original client addresses. On 2011-05-09, Alessandro Baggi alessandro.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list. I've a question about positioning a proxy server into the LAN. I've tried this in dmz (also in transparent mode + rdr pf), and works great, but now I'm trying to put this proxy in LAN. Also in this case it works, but when I try to set it in transparent mode, and put rdr rules on the firewall (OpenBSD 4.8): match in on $int proto tcp from $int:network to any port 80 rdr-to $proxy port 3128 it does not work, and the request seems not be redirected on the proxy. I've ridden this: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html I'm trying to get solution only with pf rules without no results. Could some point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance
Re: enable MFS for RAMDISK_CD on amd64
Why?
On 2011-05-09, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote:
This patch enables MFS in RAMDISK_CD, adds the MFS flag to
distrib/special/newfs binary and creates the sbin/mount_mfs link for instbin.
ted dot roby at gmail dot com
Index: distrib/amd64/common/list
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/distrib/amd64/common/list,v
retrieving revision 1.24
diff -u -r1.24 list
--- distrib/amd64/common/list 18 Oct 2010 04:07:49 - 1.24
+++ distrib/amd64/common/list 7 May 2011 22:15:11 -
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
LINK instbin sbin/mount_ffs
LINK instbin sbin/reboot sbin/halt
LINK instbin sbin/kbd
-LINK instbin sbin/newfs
+LINK instbin sbin/newfs sbin/mount_mfs
LINK instbin sbin/ping
LINK instbin sbin/restore
LINK instbin sbin/route
Index: distrib/special/newfs/Makefile
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/distrib/special/newfs/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.2 Makefile
--- distrib/special/newfs/Makefile28 Oct 2009 07:36:49 - 1.2
+++ distrib/special/newfs/Makefile7 May 2011 22:15:11 -
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
PROG=newfs
SRCS=dkcksum.c getmntopts.c newfs.c mkfs.c
-CFLAGS+= -I${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/mount
+CFLAGS+=-DMFS -I${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/mount
Some ramdisks for some arch are tight enough on space that this will
be likely overflow them.
.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/newfs
.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/mount
.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/disklabel
Index: sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD,v
retrieving revision 1.116
diff -u -r1.116 RAMDISK_CD
--- sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD3 Apr 2011 12:32:05 - 1.116
+++ sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD7 May 2011 22:15:32 -
@@ -15,6 +15,7 @@
option FFS # UFS
option FFS2# UFS2
#option EXT2FS # Linux ext2fs
+option MFS
option NFSCLIENT # Network File System client
Plone 4 and OpenBSD 4.9
Hi, Is Plone 4.0.x incompatible with OpenBSD 4.9? I am able to install and everything appears to work. However, when I try to do any site setup, Plone restarts. I increased ulimit since that had solved it earlier on OpenBSD 4.7 but on 4.9, it just did not work. I tried both amd64 and i386 versions as well as -current for both platforms. Any clues/advice please let me know. Thanks very much, Vijay Vijay Sankar vsan...@foretell.ca
Re: enable MFS for RAMDISK_CD on amd64
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 08:49:17PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
Why?
Whyt?++
Ken
On 2011-05-09, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote:
This patch enables MFS in RAMDISK_CD, adds the MFS flag to
distrib/special/newfs binary and creates the sbin/mount_mfs link for
instbin.
ted dot roby at gmail dot com
Index: distrib/amd64/common/list
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/distrib/amd64/common/list,v
retrieving revision 1.24
diff -u -r1.24 list
--- distrib/amd64/common/list 18 Oct 2010 04:07:49 - 1.24
+++ distrib/amd64/common/list 7 May 2011 22:15:11 -
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
LINK instbin sbin/mount_ffs
LINK instbin sbin/reboot sbin/halt
LINK instbin sbin/kbd
-LINK instbin sbin/newfs
+LINK instbin sbin/newfs
sbin/mount_mfs
LINK instbin sbin/ping
LINK instbin sbin/restore
LINK instbin sbin/route
Index: distrib/special/newfs/Makefile
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/distrib/special/newfs/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.2 Makefile
--- distrib/special/newfs/Makefile 28 Oct 2009 07:36:49 - 1.2
+++ distrib/special/newfs/Makefile 7 May 2011 22:15:11 -
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
PROG= newfs
SRCS= dkcksum.c getmntopts.c newfs.c mkfs.c
-CFLAGS+= -I${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/mount
+CFLAGS+=-DMFS -I${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/mount
Some ramdisks for some arch are tight enough on space that this will
be likely overflow them.
.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/newfs
.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/mount
.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../sbin/disklabel
Index: sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD,v
retrieving revision 1.116
diff -u -r1.116 RAMDISK_CD
--- sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD 3 Apr 2011 12:32:05 - 1.116
+++ sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK_CD 7 May 2011 22:15:32 -
@@ -15,6 +15,7 @@
option FFS # UFS
option FFS2# UFS2
#optionEXT2FS # Linux ext2fs
+option MFS
option NFSCLIENT # Network File System client
Re: Squid on LAN
Yes, You have the reason, I put DMZ because of this :) 2011/5/9 Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org On 2011/05/09 16:31, R0me0 *** wrote: You can too try this: pass in on $int proto tcp from $int:network to port www route-to ( $dmz $ip_of_squid ) pass out on $dmz proto tcp to $ip_of_squid to port www This won't work for machines on the same subnet as the proxy. In that case the return traffic (proxy-client) will bypass the firewall so PF only sees half of the packets so state tracking will break things. (It might initially appear to work but try a larger download and watch for the connection breaking).
Re: Plone 4 and OpenBSD 4.9
On 2011-05-09, at 4:00 PM, Vijay Sankar wrote: Hi, Is Plone 4.0.x incompatible with OpenBSD 4.9? I am able to install and everything appears to work. However, when I try to do any site setup, Plone restarts. I increased ulimit since that had solved it earlier on OpenBSD 4.7 but on 4.9, it just did not work. I tried both amd64 and i386 versions as well as -current for both platforms. Any clues/advice please let me know. Thanks very much, Vijay Looking into this further, the issue seems to be due to py-Imaging-1.1.7. Plone requires py-Imaging-1.1.6. I tried to build a package but don't know enough about Tk and other dependencies for py-Imaging. Can this package be built into the standard ports tree so that Plone sites can run on OpenBSD 4.9? If someone can give me a hand with this I can try to build it also but I am not sure how to deal with errors such as cc -DNDEBUG -O2 -pipe -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x2 -fPIC -O2 -pipe -fPIC -I/usr/local/include/tk8.4 -I/usr/local/include/tcl8.4 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2 -IlibImaging -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.6 -c _imagingtk.c -o /home/ports/pobj/Imaging-1.1.6-python2.6/Imaging-1.1.6/temp.openbsd-4.9-amd64 -2.6/_imagingtk.o _imagingtk.c:20:16: error: tk.h: No such file or directory _imagingtk.c:23: error: expected ')' before '*' token _imagingtk.c:31: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'Tcl_Interp' _imagingtk.c: In function '_tkinit': _imagingtk.c:37: error: 'Tcl_Interp' undeclared (first use in this function) _imagingtk.c:37: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once _imagingtk.c:37: error: for each function it appears in.) _imagingtk.c:37: error: 'interp' undeclared (first use in this function) _imagingtk.c:45: error: expected expression before ')' token _imagingtk.c:51: error: 'TkappObject' has no member named 'interp' error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 Vijay Sankar vsan...@foretell.ca
Re: enable MFS for RAMDISK_CD on amd64
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: Why? I posted it to misc for general archival. When creating diskless systems that do not use pxeboot, I use mfs mount points to construct userland in memory from a bsd.rd kernel. I can do this with a modified rdroot with shadow paths and symlinks. An alternate binary path with the default instbin will suffice while replacing /sbin and /bin paths. Then, any setup media (hd, cd) can be unmounted. Anyone wanting to do the same will find this patch useful.
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Creating release using site48.tgz
Hi All, The OpenBSD version that I am using is 4.8 and the default source file is at /usr/src I was trying to make a new release using site48.tgz. I have plan to put /etc/pf.conf, /etc/rc.firsttime and /etc/backup.sh inside site48.tgz Below is my steps: 1.I need to prepare of /etc/rc.firsttime and /etc/pf.conf and /etc/backup.sh. 2.After that I compress and zip using tar and gzip: tar -czf site48.tgz pf.conf rc.firsttime backup.sh 3.Once site48.tgz is done, I will copy it inside /usr/src and follow the instruction to make release (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Release). Are my steps correct? Regards, Stefan
Re: Creating release using site48.tgz
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 04:59:17PM -0700, Stefan N wrote: Are my steps correct? Close, but install sets are created in /usr/release and extracted relative to root so you need something more like this: tar -czf /usr/release/site48.tgz etc/pf.conf etc/rc.firsttime etc/backup.sh Although I would also recommend creating site49.tgz and installing 4.9. l8rZ, -- andrew - http://afresh1.com There are two ways to write error-free programs; only the third one works.
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Re: Creating release using site48.tgz
Hi Andrew, Thanks. By the way, I don't see the release directory inside the source file(/usr/src) directory. Does it mean that I need to create directory mkdir /usr/release first if my source files is at /usr/src? Regards. Stefan From: Andrew Fresh and...@afresh1.com To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 8:15:53 AM Subject: Re: Creating release using site48.tgz On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 04:59:17PM -0700, Stefan N wrote: Are my steps correct? Close, but install sets are created in /usr/release and extracted relative to root so you need something more like this: tar -czf /usr/release/site48.tgz etc/pf.conf etc/rc.firsttime etc/backup.sh Although I would also recommend creating site49.tgz and installing 4.9. l8rZ, -- andrew - http://afresh1.com There are two ways to write error-free programs; only the third one works.
Re: Creating release using site48.tgz
you don't need to build your own release for this, just put the siteXX.tgz file with the base*.tgz man*.tgz and other files from a normal release on an ftp/http server / burned CD / etc. On 2011-05-09, Stefan N stefanbsd...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, The OpenBSD version that I am using is 4.8 and the default source file is at /usr/src I was trying to make a new release using site48.tgz. I have plan to put /etc/pf.conf, /etc/rc.firsttime and /etc/backup.sh inside site48.tgz Below is my steps: 1.I need to prepare of /etc/rc.firsttime and /etc/pf.conf and /etc/backup.sh. 2.After that I compress and zip using tar and gzip: tar -czf site48.tgz pf.conf rc.firsttime backup.sh 3.Once site48.tgz is done, I will copy it inside /usr/src and follow the instruction to make release (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Release). Are my steps correct? Regards, Stefan
Re: Creating release using site48.tgz
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 05:28:12PM -0700, Stefan N wrote:
Thanks. By the way, I don't see the release directory inside the source
file(/usr/src) directory.
Does it mean that I need to create directory mkdir /usr/release first if my
source files is at /usr/src?
The release man page does describe creating RELEASEDIR
# mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} ${RELEASEDIR}
I generally set RELEASEDIR=/usr/release, but it can really be a path
anywhere you want your sets. The important part is that site48.tgz is
in the same directory as the rest of the install sets.
l8rZ,
--
andrew - http://afresh1.com
Computer Science: solving today's problems tomorrow.
Re: Creating release using site48.tgz
Ok, I got it. The siteXX.tgz must be placed inside release directory.
Thanks.
Regards,
Stefan
From: Andrew Fresh and...@afresh1.com
To: misc@openbsd.org
Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 8:40:28 AM
Subject: Re: Creating release using site48.tgz
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 05:28:12PM -0700, Stefan N wrote:
Thanks. By the way, I don't see the release directory inside the source
file(/usr/src) directory.
Does it mean that I need to create directory mkdir /usr/release first if my
source files is at /usr/src?
The release man page does describe creating RELEASEDIR
# mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} ${RELEASEDIR}
I generally set RELEASEDIR=/usr/release, but it can really be a path
anywhere you want your sets. The important part is that site48.tgz is
in the same directory as the rest of the install sets.
l8rZ,
--
andrew - http://afresh1.com
Computer Science: solving today's problems tomorrow.
Re: Creating release using site48.tgz
Hi Stuart, It sounds that is the faster way instead of creating from the scratch. Thanks! Regards, Stefan From: Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 8:39:13 AM Subject: Re: Creating release using site48.tgz you don't need to build your own release for this, just put the siteXX.tgz file with the base*.tgz man*.tgz and other files from a normal release on an ftp/http server / burned CD / etc. On 2011-05-09, Stefan N stefanbsd...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, The OpenBSD version that I am using is 4.8 and the default source file is at /usr/src I was trying to make a new release using site48.tgz. I have plan to put /etc/pf.conf, /etc/rc.firsttime and /etc/backup.sh inside site48.tgz Below is my steps: 1.I need to prepare of /etc/rc.firsttime and /etc/pf.conf and /etc/backup.sh. 2.After that I compress and zip using tar and gzip: tar -czf site48.tgz pf.conf rc.firsttime backup.sh 3.Once site48.tgz is done, I will copy it inside /usr/src and follow the instruction to make release (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Release). Are my steps correct? Regards, Stefan
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