Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot
On 2011-05-15, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote: Delete all packages, reinstall them. This happens when firefox and gtk are built on separate days. The pkg system does a good job tracking version numbers, but the contents of a pkg can depend in subtle ways on what else is installed and that's not reflected in the version number. It's not reflected in the version number, it's reflected in the package signature (besides the version number, all those @wantlib lines in the +CONTENTS file). Contents? They are the same packing lists, right? Are you actually talking of subtle .so dependencies and updates being performed separately in inter-dependent packages? Today libpng has version X, gtk version Y, and firefox version Z. You install these packages. In one week, libpng is updated to version X+1 and firefox is updated to version Z+1. You update. The gtk version has not changed, it will not be upgraded. Now firefox is linked to png X+1 and X (via gtk). Hilarity ensues. A newly built gtk will be linked against png X+1 and will work correctly. Determining which package needs rebuilding is really hard. It's much easier to install a complete matched set. Packages takes care of this just fine *but* you are supposed to use packages from a consistent snapshot. Don't just update a single package, make sure you 1) update packages as a complete set and 2) the mirror you're updating from isn't half-way through updating.
Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot
Hello, Same kind of behaviour here, see details below. I'm on snapshots from 13-May. All was fine using the snaphost before this. Mozilla-firefox is crashing, on most sites. Chrome is ok, xxxterm is ok (tried it for the first time). Also gnome-mplayer ends with segmentation fault, always. Here is my dmesg: avail mem = 1044070400 (995MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/07/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0450 (72 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A08 date 07/07/2006 bios0: Dell Inc. Precision WorkStation 370 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI1(S5) PCI2(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI4(S5) KBD_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8 acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI1) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI4) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf800 0xcf800/0x800 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82925X Host rev 0x04 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82925X PCIE rev 0x04: apic 8 int 16 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon X1650 Pro rev 0x9e wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16 drm0 at radeondrm0 ATI Radeon X1650 Pro Sec rev 0x9e at pci1 dev 0 function 1 not configured ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801FB PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 16 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 bge0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5751 rev 0x01, BCM5750 A1 (0x4001): apic 8 int 16, address 00:13:20:18:a2:cf brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801FB PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 17 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 21 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 22 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 18 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 23 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 21 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xd3 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 emu0 at pci4 dev 2 function 0 Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live rev 0x07: apic 8 int 18 ac97: codec id 0x83847609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23) ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D audio0 at emu0 Creative Labs PCI Gameport Joystick rev 0x07 at pci4 dev 2 function 1 not configured ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801FB LPC rev 0x03: PM disabled pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801FR SATA rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD3200AAKS-00G3A0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 305245MB, 625142448 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: PIONEER, DVD-RW DVR-116D, 1.06 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801FB SMBus rev 0x03: SMI iic0 at ichiic0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 512MB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-3200CL5 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x52: 512MB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-3200CL5 usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support vscsi0 at root scsibus1 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root root on wd0a (6562681645aa8d79.a) swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot
Regarding the other personal post, xxxterm is crashing too, ending with segmentation fault later, on gmail page.
OpenBSD4.9 / Virtual Routing Domains
i was playing with virtual routing on openbsd4.9 recently first results using vlans are impressive now i am asking myself if virtual routing is possible - without using dedicated physical interfaces for each routing domain - without using dedicated vlans for each routing domain idea behind this: i have a network appliance with 3 interface (int/ext/mgmt) i want to configure 5 routing domains i have limited number of physical interfaces i do not want to use vlans so what i would need in this case is something like a virtual ethernet interface - which can be bound to a physical ethernet interface (similar to vlans) - and the virtual virtual ethernet interface should be assignable to a routing domain any ideas? guess aliases of an interface are not assignable to a routing domain...(?) maybe something in progress in the dev tree? many thanx /pat
Re: OpenBSD4.9 / Virtual Routing Domains
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 02:24:27PM +0200, Oeschger Patrick wrote: i was playing with virtual routing on openbsd4.9 recently first results using vlans are impressive now i am asking myself if virtual routing is possible - without using dedicated physical interfaces for each routing domain - without using dedicated vlans for each routing domain idea behind this: i have a network appliance with 3 interface (int/ext/mgmt) i want to configure 5 routing domains i have limited number of physical interfaces i do not want to use vlans so what i would need in this case is something like a virtual ethernet interface - which can be bound to a physical ethernet interface (similar to vlans) - and the virtual virtual ethernet interface should be assignable to a routing domain any ideas? guess aliases of an interface are not assignable to a routing domain...(?) maybe something in progress in the dev tree? many thanx /pat vether(4) ? Ken
Re: OpenBSD4.9 / Virtual Routing Domains
On May 15, 2011, at 15:25, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 02:24:27PM +0200, Oeschger Patrick wrote: i was playing with virtual routing on openbsd4.9 recently first results using vlans are impressive now i am asking myself if virtual routing is possible - without using dedicated physical interfaces for each routing domain - without using dedicated vlans for each routing domain idea behind this: i have a network appliance with 3 interface (int/ext/mgmt) i want to configure 5 routing domains i have limited number of physical interfaces i do not want to use vlans so what i would need in this case is something like a virtual ethernet interface - which can be bound to a physical ethernet interface (similar to vlans) - and the virtual virtual ethernet interface should be assignable to a routing domain any ideas? guess aliases of an interface are not assignable to a routing domain...(?) maybe something in progress in the dev tree? many thanx /pat vether(4) ? Ken well... i guess vether(4) cannot be attachted to a physical interface maybe i'm wrong here(?) had a glimplse at vether(4) yesterday /pat
Re: impact of unaligned partitions/slices on 4kB sector drives (wd10ears)
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: 1) Don't cross post. 2) Install something more recent that 4.6 (e.g. 4.9) and you will find that partitions and filesystems will be aligned on 4K boundaries. 3) If you can, without trying hard, end up with misaligned partitions on a fresh 4.9 install then please detail the steps you followed and I for one would be very interested. Perhaps not top-posting, and trimming excessive quoted material which is not actually relevant to the content you're adding, would help as well? That said 4096 byte block alignment is an ongoing issue in virtualization. If your storage on your virtualization server is 4096 byte block aligned, such as NetApp fibre channel or NFS images for high availability VMWare environments, Since the guests currently have no way to be aware of the back-end storage, and won't until virtualization technologies include options for 4096 byte block drive emulation, it's a problem. it's vital that the guest images have their partitions aligned. It's particularly criticla to avoid the 63-block DOS compatibility before the first partition. I've personally written and posted tools for that for Linux environments, but haven't tried it for OpenBSD: I'd welcome guidelines for that.
Re: Problems attaching tty to display driver other than vga(4)
Thus said T on Fri, 13 May 2011 12:52:38 +0200: udl0 at uhub1 port 1 DisplayLink LILLIPUT USB Monitor rev 2.00/1.24 addr 2 max_dotclock according to supported modes: 29000 wsdisplay1 at udl0 mux 1 wsdisplay1: screen 0 addded (std, vt100 emulation) I'm just guessing here, but it would seem that it didn't add any screens for wdisplay to use. Here is what a VGA monitors says: wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0 Andy
Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
Hello, I ressurected an old pc yesterday (specs on title) with OpenBSD 4.9 and without X to keep it light. It runs ridiculously well! Everything works fine except the automatic powerdown (shutdown -hp now), which is not supported aparently by the mobo, anyway, don't care about that. I currently have sshd, pf, sshguard and sendmail running, all in 4-5 MB of 18-21 available RAM (the rest is taken by the hardware I suppose) and 1-2 MB of 42 MB swap. I could turn it into a firewall, but I allready have one, and I am not very excited about the idea. What I do find exciting is teaching my nephew some computer/programming basics. Anyone find it a good idea? I have allready installed python and gprolog, which I like for basic aritmhetics stuff. What dissapoints me the most, is that there don't exist USB ports and they might not even be supported, the pc is from 1998. I could use rtorrent with screen to download stuff to an external hard drive.. But I will check on that when I find the time to open the case. What else could I use it for? Thank you! Mike
Re: Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
You might try playing with some of OpenBSD's virtual routing capabilities. You could create a couple of VLANs and test out some of the BGP/MPLS VPN capabilities within the VLANs. To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 9:48:36 AM Subject: Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk Hello, I ressurected an old pc yesterday (specs on title) with OpenBSD 4.9 and without X to keep it light. It runs ridiculously well! Everything works fine except the automatic powerdown (shutdown -hp now), which is not supported aparently by the mobo, anyway, don't care about that. I currently have sshd, pf, sshguard and sendmail running, all in 4-5 MB of 18-21 available RAM (the rest is taken by the hardware I suppose) and 1-2 MB of 42 MB swap. I could turn it into a firewall, but I allready have one, and I am not very excited about the idea. What I do find exciting is teaching my nephew some computer/programming basics. Anyone find it a good idea? I have allready installed python and gprolog, which I like for basic aritmhetics stuff. What dissapoints me the most, is that there don't exist USB ports and they might not even be supported, the pc is from 1998. I could use rtorrent with screen to download stuff to an external hard drive.. But I will check on that when I find the time to open the case. What else could I use it for? Thank you! Mike
Re: Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
Hi, On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 17:48, Michael Sioutis papito@gmail.com wrote: What else could I use it for? Do the opposite. Think what is that that you'd liek to play with, then see if that hardware is enough. Webserver? nginx+fastcgi is light Maybe you have an old printer laying around? Maybe an XMPP server for the LAN? An operating sistem spanning multiple machines? Music server? For experiments, can't pack much with 1.5GB.. :) I haven't fiddled with puseaudio yet. -- Mars 2 Stay! http://xkcd.com/801/ /etc
Re: [Bulk] Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:48:36 +0300 Michael Sioutis wrote: What else could I use it for? A dedicated system to admin your servers/network from. p.s. I've just got a neat 366mhz 64meg laptop from '99, li-ion battery still works!!!, halts, usb works, apm works, acpi of course doesn't and has floppy and a cd built in, serial, vga out. The best part is that increasing the console rows looks just fine. Would I be right that's there's little point in sending dmesgs from very ancient machines.
Re: [Bulk] Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:36:47 + Kevin Chadwick wrote: p.s. I've just got a neat 366mhz 64meg laptop from '99, li-ion battery No intel cpu management mode either :-)
Re: [Bulk] Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:36:47 + Kevin Chadwick wrote: p.s. I've just got a neat 366mhz 64meg laptop from '99, Oh yeah, old linux debian boot disks work on it but the new ones don't. Fails at edd and again later on.
Re: OpenBSD4.9 / Virtual Routing Domains
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 03:35:53PM +0200, Oeschger Patrick wrote: On May 15, 2011, at 15:25, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 02:24:27PM +0200, Oeschger Patrick wrote: i was playing with virtual routing on openbsd4.9 recently first results using vlans are impressive now i am asking myself if virtual routing is possible - without using dedicated physical interfaces for each routing domain - without using dedicated vlans for each routing domain idea behind this: i have a network appliance with 3 interface (int/ext/mgmt) i want to configure 5 routing domains i have limited number of physical interfaces i do not want to use vlans so what i would need in this case is something like a virtual ethernet interface - which can be bound to a physical ethernet interface (similar to vlans) - and the virtual virtual ethernet interface should be assignable to a routing domain any ideas? guess aliases of an interface are not assignable to a routing domain...(?) maybe something in progress in the dev tree? many thanx /pat vether(4) ? Ken well... i guess vether(4) cannot be attachted to a physical interface maybe i'm wrong here(?) had a glimplse at vether(4) yesterday vether(4) must be used together with bridge(4). You then can bridge the physical interface with the vether instances. Now there is one issue and this is the bridge(4) itself fails to properly forward traffic between to local domains (like vether0 to vether1). Traffic comming in on the real interface is not affected. I plan to fix this somewhen but a few other things need to go in first. -- :wq Claudio
Re: Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
On 05/15/11 12:48, Michael Sioutis wrote: Hello, I ressurected an old pc yesterday (specs on title) with OpenBSD 4.9 and without X to keep it light. It runs ridiculously well! Everything works fine except the automatic powerdown (shutdown -hp now), which is not supported aparently by the mobo, anyway, don't care about that. I currently have sshd, pf, sshguard and sendmail running, all in 4-5 MB of 18-21 available RAM (the rest is taken by the hardware I suppose) and 1-2 MB of 42 MB swap. I could turn it into a firewall, but I allready have one, and I am not very excited about the idea. What I do find exciting is teaching my nephew some computer/programming basics. Anyone find it a good idea? I have allready installed python and gprolog, which I like for basic aritmhetics stuff. What dissapoints me the most, is that there don't exist USB ports and they might not even be supported, the pc is from 1998. I could use rtorrent with screen to download stuff to an external hard drive.. But I will check on that when I find the time to open the case. What else could I use it for? Thank you! Mike The first version of Samba I ever had was on a Dell GXMT@166MHz with one or two 3G disks. I let a faculty person use it for a temporary thing and then would up supporting it for months because I couldn't pry him off of it. Things were slower back then (2001? 2002?) but it was fast enough for him not to crab about it. --STeve Andre'
Re: [Bulk] Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
On 2011 May 15 (Sun) at 18:36:47 + (+), Kevin Chadwick wrote: :Would I be right that's there's little point in sending dmesgs from :very ancient machines. We want dmesgs from *everything*. You may have something interesting, even if its old. -- He's the kind of guy, that, well, if you were ever in a jam he'd be there ... with two slices of bread and some chunky peanut butter.
Re: Help finding file-analysis tool?
On Mon, 2 May 2011 17:50:48 -0400 (EDT)
Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com wrote:
Sorry to bother you all, but I'm failing miserably at searching for a
tool to help analyze the structure of arbitrary files (prefereably one
which runs on OpenBSD).
I've got a device which exports data in a undocumented format and the
only program available to use that data doesn't do what I need, so I
need to figure out the file formats so I can communicate with the device
the way I need to.
What I'm looking for is an interactive program which makes it easy to
look at selected parts of a file (individual items, sets of items
located at regular intervals, sets of items linked by pointers or
offsets, etc) in any of many formats (ascii, unicode, int, double float,
etc) and either endianness, store comments about items or sets of items
in an aux file, store names for various values in particular items and
display those items values using those names, search for patterns at
regular intervals or linked by pointers or offsets, etc, etc, etc; all
those things which make it easier to discover and keep track of the
structure of an unknown file.
It's hard to believe that nobody has ever written such a program, but
I've been unable to find one. Any suggestions for effective searches or
for suitable programs would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Dave
--
Dave Anderson
d...@daveanderson.com
Never heard of such a program.
I would use /usr/ports/editors/bvi, a hex editor, and Python, a very
high-level scripting language in which you can perform various
operations on data pretty easily.
f = open('myfile.dat', 'rb')
bytes = f.read(4)
msg = 'first 4 bytes in hex: '
for x in bytes:
msg += hex(ord(x))[2:].upper()
print msg
You could create a .py file with various useful functions, then start
up Python interpreter, import this file and explore the file
interactively by calling functions.
Conceive a theory by trying to think how would you create a file for
these purposes and by trying to see patterns in the file, test the
theory by changing the file one thing at a time, observe behavior,
repeat.
Re: Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:48:36 +0300
Michael Sioutis papito@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I ressurected an old pc yesterday (specs on title) with OpenBSD 4.9
and without X to keep it light. It
runs ridiculously well! Everything works fine except the automatic
powerdown (shutdown -hp now), which
is not supported aparently by the mobo, anyway, don't care about that.
I currently have sshd, pf, sshguard and sendmail running, all in 4-5
MB of 18-21 available RAM (the rest is taken
by the hardware I suppose) and 1-2 MB of 42 MB swap.
I could turn it into a firewall, but I allready have one, and I am not
very excited about the idea.
What I do find exciting is teaching my nephew some computer/programming
basics.
Anyone find it a good idea?
I have allready installed python and gprolog, which I like for basic
aritmhetics stuff.
What dissapoints me the most, is that there don't exist USB ports and
they might not even be supported, the pc
is from 1998.
I could use rtorrent with screen to download stuff to an external hard drive..
But I will check on that when I find the time to open the case.
What else could I use it for?
Thank you!
Mike
It should have an LPT port, you can use this port to interface with
other electronic devices. Anything from lighting up a few LEDs to
automatizing your home. I use the LPT port to upload firmware to
Atmel AVR microcontrollers for example (there is a C compiler for them
pkg_add -vi {avr-gcc,avr-libc,avr-binutils}).
http://logix4u.net/Legacy_Ports/Parallel_Port/A_tutorial_on_Parallel_port_Interfacing.html
http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/
$ man i386_iopl
or
$ man amd64_iopl
and see the inb/outb functions/macros in /usr/include/{i386,amd64}/pio.h
Check for port updates
Hi, what is the preferred way to check for port updates? In the past I used /usr/ports/infrastructure/build/out-of-date but that always-update-thing I couldn't find much information about in the net is somehow confusing and not really helpful when trying to automate checking for updates. # /usr/ports/infrastructure/build/out-of-date Collecting installed packages: ok Collecting port versions: ok Collecting port signatures: ok Outdated ports: devel/quirks # always-update - quirks-1.32 # Thanks, Helmut
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Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot
2011/5/15 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com:
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote:
Determining which package needs rebuilding is really hard. B It's much
easier to install a complete matched set.
I believe some Linuxes do something like 'find /usr/local/lib -name
lib*.so* -exec ldd {} ; stuff' and then match stuff's not found
lines against all installed packages' PLIST. Is there more difficulty
to it?
I mean, besides that OpenBSD's ldd fails to write anything if only one
library is missing, but that can't be too hard to write/port, can it?
And yes, it's painfully slow and stupid, but fortunately for us
unneccessary most of the time.
By the way, with the vmmap diff firefox4 and everything works just
fine for about 3 days now. Thanks!
--
Martin Pelikan
Re: OpenBSD4.9 / Virtual Routing Domains
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 03:35:53PM +0200, Oeschger Patrick wrote: On May 15, 2011, at 15:25, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 02:24:27PM +0200, Oeschger Patrick wrote: i was playing with virtual routing on openbsd4.9 recently first results using vlans are impressive now i am asking myself if virtual routing is possible - without using dedicated physical interfaces for each routing domain - without using dedicated vlans for each routing domain idea behind this: i have a network appliance with 3 interface (int/ext/mgmt) i want to configure 5 routing domains i have limited number of physical interfaces i do not want to use vlans so what i would need in this case is something like a virtual ethernet interface - which can be bound to a physical ethernet interface (similar to vlans) - and the virtual virtual ethernet interface should be assignable to a routing domain any ideas? guess aliases of an interface are not assignable to a routing domain...(?) maybe something in progress in the dev tree? many thanx /pat vether(4) ? Ken well... i guess vether(4) cannot be attachted to a physical interface maybe i'm wrong here(?) had a glimplse at vether(4) yesterday /pat vether need to be put together with the relevant physical interface with a bridge. Not sure if it can do what you need, but 'virtual ethernet' is what you mused you might need. :-) Ken
hostname.if(5)/ifconfig(8) configuration for gif(4)
Hello, I'm able to use the following configuration for gif0 via ifconfig(8): # ifconfig gif0 inet6 tunnel 2002:db8::1 2002:db8::2 # ifconfig gif0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 The following version of /etc/hostname.gif0 doesn't work: # cat /etc/hostname.gif0 inet6 tunnel 2002:db8::1 2002:db8::2 inet 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 dest 192.168.1.2 Is there a way to do this correctly via /etc/hostname.gif0 ? Best regards Andreas
Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: In one week, libpng is updated to version X+1 and firefox is updated to version Z+1. You update. The gtk version has not changed, it will not be upgraded. Now firefox is linked to png X+1 and X (via gtk). Hilarity ensues. A newly built gtk will be linked against png X+1 and will work correctly. Determining which package needs rebuilding is really hard. It's much easier to install a complete matched set. Packages takes care of this just fine *but* you are supposed to use packages from a consistent snapshot. Don't just update a single package, make sure you 1) update packages as a complete set and 2) the mirror you're updating from isn't half-way through updating. They do? As far as I know, firefox will only say that it depends on gtk Y and png X+1. Nothing records the fact that firefox depends on a gtk Y that itself depends on png X+1.
Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Martin Pelikan
martin.peli...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/5/15 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com:
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote:
Determining which package needs rebuilding is really hard. It's much
easier to install a complete matched set.
I believe some Linuxes do something like 'find /usr/local/lib -name
lib*.so* -exec ldd {} ; stuff' and then match stuff's not found
lines against all installed packages' PLIST. Is there more difficulty
to it?
The problem is not missing libraries, the problem is too many libraries.
[ksh] clear screen with Ctrl-L
Just wanted to share this small diff (it's for vi command mode).
I guess it doesn't meet openbsd's high standards, but someone may
find it useful.
Index: bin/ksh/vi.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/bin/ksh/vi.c,v
retrieving revision 1.26
diff -u -p -u -r1.26 vi.c
--- bin/ksh/vi.c29 Jun 2009 22:50:19 - 1.26
+++ bin/ksh/vi.c15 May 2011 22:21:14 -
@@ -714,6 +714,12 @@ vi_cmd(int argcnt, const char *cmd)
switch (*cmd) {
case Ctrl('l'):
+ /* These are ANSI escape codes, non-portable */
+ x_puts(\033[2J);
+ x_puts(\033[0;0H);
+ redraw_line(0);
+ break;
+
case Ctrl('r'):
redraw_line(1);
break;
--
Alexander Polakov | plhk.ru
Re: hostname.if(5)/ifconfig(8) configuration for gif(4)
On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:10:21 -0500, Andreas Bartelt o...@bartula.de wrote: Is there a way to do this correctly via /etc/hostname.gif0 ? Best regards Andreas Not sure if this helps, but as far as I know this is the way you're supposed to do it for a 6to4 tunnel: Sanitized, but you'll get the point: $ cat /etc/hostname.gif0 tunnel LOCAL_IP DEST_IP inet6 alias IPV6_NETWORK PREFIXLEN My issue is that it still doesn't work 100% correctly on boot. If I sh /etc/netstart again, it begins working. Strange. Regards, Mark
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Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot
On Sun, 15 May 2011 06:47:54 +0200 Timo Schoeler timo.schoe...@riscworks.net wrote: -- Urspr. Mitt. -- Betreff: Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot Von: Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com Datum: 15.05.2011 01:38 On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Ed Ahlsen-Girard eagir...@cox.net wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 11:15:43 -0400 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Ed Ahlsen-Girard eagir...@cox.net wrote: xxxterm closes when attempting to open any page other than :fav Firefox opens momentarily is started in safe mode, but closes almost immediately. Delete all packages, reinstall them. B This happens when firefox and gtk are built on separate days. B The pkg system does a good job tracking version numbers, but the contents of a pkg can depend in subtle ways on what else is installed and that's not reflected in the version number. Deleted all (that was ugly) and reinstalled (same). B Now, firefox35 complains that it's already running, even though it's not. Did you delete all of those . directories in your home as well? Like .mozilla, .gconf, .gcond, .config and others? I deleted the hidden directories listed above, but not every single hidden directory. Firefox and xxxterm are still misbehaving. e.g.: FF blows up changing pages in FaceBook and any page at National Review. xxxterm blows up trying to go to Gmail. Wondering if I need to wait for packages to bump. Or if even that will suffice. -- Edward Ahlsen-Girard Ft Walton Beach, FL
Re: Things to do with a Pentium 166MHz cpu - 32 MB of RAM - 1.5 GB disk
On 05/15/11 12:48, Michael Sioutis wrote: Hello, I ressurected an old pc yesterday (specs on title) with OpenBSD 4.9 and without X to keep it light. It runs ridiculously well! Everything works fine except the automatic powerdown (shutdown -hp now), which is not supported aparently by the mobo, anyway, don't care about that. I currently have sshd, pf, sshguard and sendmail running, all in 4-5 MB of 18-21 available RAM (the rest is taken by the hardware I suppose) and 1-2 MB of 42 MB swap. I could turn it into a firewall, but I allready have one, and I am not very excited about the idea. What I do find exciting is teaching my nephew some computer/programming basics. Anyone find it a good idea? yeah, please teach the young'uns some computer basics. They sure as heck aren't getting it in the schools. What passes for computer education in schools today is a joke. (I'm sorry, I do not consider learning a small number of APPLICATIONS true computer education.) Take the machine apart, have him build it back up (with your help, but hold your hands behind your back, so HE has to do the work), understand what all the pieces do, google for the part numbers of the various parts on the main board and get some idea what they do. Show him how when sitting at a BIOS screen or at a DOS prompt, the CPU gets very hot, while when running a modern OS (like OpenBSD), the CPU will be cool to the touch when the system is idle, but will quickly heat up when the CPU gets busy. You can run a P166 without a heatsink for extended periods of time, 'specially with a low-power-when-idle OS like OpenBSD. One thing I've been meaning to do but have not got around to yet in a permanent way is taking a fluid tube from a burned-out bubble light (google for it, if you don't know what I mean, the wikipedia article is pretty accurate) and bonding it to a P1 CPU. I suspect a P1 would be about right in terms of delivering heat to the tube -- a Celeron 400 was a bit much, though worked, a Celeron 566 got too hot too quickly, bubbling ferociously for a short time, but the CPU would quickly overheat and lock. With a P1, probably no or few bubbles at idle, could get a pretty good bubbling going while building a kernel. :) I have allready installed python and gprolog, which I like for basic aritmhetics stuff. What dissapoints me the most, is that there don't exist USB ports and they might not even be supported, the pc is from 1998. I could use rtorrent with screen to download stuff to an external hard drive.. But I will check on that when I find the time to open the case. Regarding USB ports -- if you find an old USB 1.0 card laying around, I bet it would work fine. USB2.0 cards...you might find the card expects a newer version of the PCI bus than your machine has...but you may get lucky or I may be completely wrong. :) Biggest problem with putting big disks in old machines is memory (RAM+Swap) required for fsck. You can probably get some more memory for your machine, but maybe not enough cheaply to put much more than a 40G disk in it. I have found a lot of P166 machine could be overclocked to 200MHz. I don't recall any 166MHz P1 procs that couldn't tolerate 200MHz, seemingly indefinitely. I ran one like this as my primary web and mail server for myself and a number of friends for YEARS, then later as just a firewall. I believe its total production life in my use was probably somewhere around 6 years. What else could I use it for? These make great machines for hostile environments. Rather than a CPU fan on a heatsink, they work great with a large heatsink and some active air movement nearby. In fact, once OpenBSD is booted, under usual production, the heatsink will be COOL to the touch. For this reason, they run great in dusty or filthy environments that would kill most modern machines in months or weeks (the above mentioned machine was in an auto service station the entire six years). That machine will do everything most people need as a firewall or mail/webserver for small traffic, low bandwidth connections (i.e., what most people have). The primary reason I upgraded (to a PII-450) is the ssh connect times are faster, and the UDMA support on the newer machines is better, so I can move files around locally a lot faster (though remotely, no significant difference) some other things you could do with a machine like that: * Local DNS resolver * terminal server (one of my terminal servers is a P90) * test-install machines for experimentation * mini-FTP/SFTP/SCP servers for file distribution * Machine for doing things that might expose yourself to a security issue, keep it contained to a non-critical system. Nick.
Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Martin Pelikan
martin.peli...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/5/15 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com:
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote:
Determining which package needs rebuilding is really hard. B It's much
easier to install a complete matched set.
I believe some Linuxes do something like 'find /usr/local/lib -name
lib*.so* -exec ldd {} ; stuff' and then match stuff's not found
lines against all installed packages' PLIST. Is there more difficulty
to it?
I mean, besides that OpenBSD's ldd fails to write anything if only one
library is missing, but that can't be too hard to write/port, can it?
??? Slow down there, you've just glossed over a lot of resource
tracking, which can save your tail when you have difficulty resolving
a dependency, but cause absolute chaos when it's ignored by someone
taking a short cut and never documenting it.
dpkg and RPM based systems assess the library dependencies reported by
the binaries, at build time, against the build environment. Making
that build environment consistent and based on only registered, well
defined, repository provided resources soaks up a lot of engineering
time. To install that other package with the necessary library, *if*
that package has a dependency on another library or binary, that
dependency is supposed to be recorded in the first library's list of
dependency and resolved by the package management system.
This is a lot of work, but very useful for assuring that individual
component variants or upgrades do not drag in a tremendous and
incompatible toolchain of madness that breaks existing components.
(CPAN is famous for this problem: two different updates of components
that rely on each other can rely on incompatible, overlapping
components. Used to drive me nuts when people would just slap in
whatever module they wanted and I'd have to resolve the discrepancies:
don't get me going on mod_perl..)
And yes, it's painfully slow and stupid, but fortunately for us
unneccessary most of the time.
It's usually pretty automatic with both deb and RPM formats. Some
attention has to be paid, but I've assembled about. 200 RPM's for
components that were not in the main code tree that developers needed
for their work. That includes recent backports of OpenSSH to older
operating systems, by the way,. and the identification of the
dependencies fo the build environments was very helpful.
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Re: hostname.if(5)/ifconfig(8) configuration for gif(4)
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:10:21 -0500, Andreas Bartelt o...@bartula.de wrote: Is there a way to do this correctly via /etc/hostname.gif0 ? Best regards Andreas Not sure if this helps, but as far as I know this is the way you're supposed to do it for a 6to4 tunnel: Sanitized, but you'll get the point: $ cat /etc/hostname.gif0 tunnel LOCAL_IP DEST_IP inet6 alias IPV6_NETWORK PREFIXLEN My issue is that it still doesn't work 100% correctly on boot. If I sh /etc/netstart again, it begins working. Strange. Regards, Mark For a 6to4 tunnel, you can use something like this in your hostname.gif so that it works on boot: $ cat /etc/hostname.gif0 tunnel LOCAL_IP4 DEST_IP4 inet6 LOCAL_IP6 dest DEST_IP6 !/sbin/route -n add -inet6 default LOCAL_IP6 !/sbin/route change -inet6 default -ifp gif0 Axton Grams
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Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:00:59PM -0500, Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011 06:47:54 +0200 Timo Schoeler timo.schoe...@riscworks.net wrote: -- Urspr. Mitt. -- Betreff: Re: xxxterm and firefox35 May 11 snapshot Von: Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com Datum: 15.05.2011 01:38 On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Ed Ahlsen-Girard eagir...@cox.net wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 11:15:43 -0400 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Ed Ahlsen-Girard eagir...@cox.net wrote: xxxterm closes when attempting to open any page other than :fav Firefox opens momentarily is started in safe mode, but closes almost immediately. Delete all packages, reinstall them. B This happens when firefox and gtk are built on separate days. B The pkg system does a good job tracking version numbers, but the contents of a pkg can depend in subtle ways on what else is installed and that's not reflected in the version number. Deleted all (that was ugly) and reinstalled (same). B Now, firefox35 complains that it's already running, even though it's not. Did you delete all of those . directories in your home as well? Like .mozilla, .gconf, .gcond, .config and others? I deleted the hidden directories listed above, but not every single hidden directory. Firefox and xxxterm are still misbehaving. e.g.: FF blows up changing pages in FaceBook and any page at National Review. xxxterm blows up trying to go to Gmail. Wondering if I need to wait for packages to bump. Or if even that will suffice. Why don't you try the other remedy, which has been reported to work for other people? -Otto
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