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specific X.org segmentation fault

2012-02-01 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hello,

I've run in some able to repeat issue using X.org doing some
software try. The result is a complete X.org server shut down. I'm not
good in reporting things, but this is very interesting because it
repeats every time. See the details down there, I'm curious if someone
can reproduce it. If more details needed, I can provide them.

OpenBSD 5.1-beta from snapshots (dmesg attached)
X.org running without /etc/xorg.conf
scrotwm-0.10.0
xxxterm-1.10.0v0

Each time I go to neworder.box.sk there is a X.org stop and shutdown
with the following error:

Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarly unavailable) on X server :0
after 2650 requests (2650 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
assertion #ret != invalid_id failed: file
/usr/xenocara/lib/libX11/src/xcb_io.c, line 528, function
_xAllocID
xinit: connection to X server lost.
Abort trap (core dumped).

There is a xxxter.core file. I will send the dmesg and some snippet
from X.org.log.old. If all X.org.log is needed, can I send it here ?

[dmesg]

OpenBSD 5.1-beta (GENERIC) #143: Thu Jan 26 16:02:00 MST 2012
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.20 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,xTPR
real mem  = 1071751168 (1022MB)
avail mem = 1044127744 (995MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/07/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xffe90, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0450 (72 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A08 date 07/07/2006
bios0: Dell Inc. Precision WorkStation 370
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET
acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI1(S5) PCI2(S5) PCI3(S5)
PCI4(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI1)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI4)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf800 0xcf800/0x800
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82925X Host rev 0x04
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82925X PCIE rev 0x04: apic 8 int 16
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon X1650 Pro rev 0x9e
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16
drm0 at radeondrm0
ATI Radeon X1650 Pro Sec rev 0x9e at pci1 dev 0 function 1 not configured
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801FB PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 16
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
bge0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5751 rev 0x01, BCM5750 A1
(0x4001): apic 8 int 16, address 00:13:20:18:a2:cf
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801FB PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 17
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 21
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 22
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 18
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 23
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 21
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xd3
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
emu0 at pci4 dev 2 function 0 Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live rev
0x07: apic 8 int 18
ac97: codec id 0x83847609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23)
ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D
audio0 at emu0
Creative Labs PCI Gameport Joystick rev 0x07 at pci4 dev 2 function
1 not configured
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801FB LPC rev 0x03: PM disabled
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801FB IDE rev 0x03: DMA,
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to
compatibility
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: PIONEER, DVD-RW DVR-116D, 1.06 ATAPI
5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801FR SATA rev 0x03: apic 8
int 20, AHCI 1.0
ahci0: PHY offline on port 1
ahci0: PHY offline on port 2
ahci0: PHY offline on port 3
scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, WDC WD3200AAKS-0, 40.0 SCSI3
0/direct 

Re: warning message during boot, DHCP and no connections

2012-02-01 Thread pix
 To: p...@bell.net
 Subject: Re: warning message during boot, DHCP and no connections
 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:21:03 -0700
 From: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org

 It looks like the jme driver has lots of bugs.

Looks like going to the doctor after a blood test, him telling you have
cancer.
Went -current on the portable.
After a solid 3 hours of compiling, reboot shows same warning messages.
Guess I will either have to stop going to library or else purchase a better
suited laptop.
Thanks for the answer.

Regards
Pix



Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-02-01 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hi Amit,

Amit Kulkarni wrote [2012-02-01 00:57+0100]:
 this motivated me to use cvsync from anoncvs and use a
 CVSROOT=/home/amit/MYLOCALREPO to update from cvs. Much much faster
 and while initial checkout from cvsync takes 5-10 hrs

Yes, that's a real pity.
I think it would be great if tarballs would be offered for
those, too.  I.e. this is *all* of OpenBSD (src, xenocara and
www, the latter however refuses papers/, slides/ and songs/
because i also have a checkout of the Steelix translation
project), as has been burned onto my last full-backup DVD:

$ ls -latr
-rw-r--r--  1 steffen  wheel  516407350 26 Jan 15:41 cvsync_openbsd.tbz

I think plain gzip wouldn't be that much larger.
And hey, it's worth noting that this is smaller than
.git/objects/pack of src.git alone!

 the subsequent updates are lightning quick.

Yes.
And how easy it now is to do 'cvs up -PAC' to overwrite my messy
patches.

 --amit

Ciao,

--steffen



Re: ipsec tunnel traffic getting icmp host unreachable

2012-02-01 Thread Aner Perez
Ok, to answer my own question, it seems like you need a non-encap 
route to the network on the other side of the VPN.  If you don't have 
a regular route to that network, you get host unreachable responses.


To test this, I tried adding a route for the specific network being 
accessed, pointing to our default gateway.  Doing this allowed the 
traffic to flow through the VPN.  Notice that the route I added was 
not pointing to the remote VPN peer, just to our regular gateway 
router to the internet.


Next, I removed the specific route to the remote VPN network, and 
added a default route pointing to our internet gateway.  This also 
worked and allowed traffic to flow through the VPN.


Is this expected behavior?  Do I need a static route to a remote 
network before I can pass traffic to it through an IPSEC tunnel?


Sounds to me like inbound packets are checked against the routing 
tables to make sure they can be routed but the encap routing table is 
not consulted to make this decision.


Luckily for me, I won't need to add 33 routes and maintain them as 
tunnels are added and removed since I can just add a default route in 
addition to all the routes provided by our BGP session.


- Aner

On 01/31/2012 03:08 PM, Aner Perez wrote:

We have a pair of VPN/firewall systems running 5.0 GENERIC.MP#59 i386
(Lanner FW-7535B). These machines are also running OpenBGP, OpenOSPF,
CARP, pfsync, isakmpd and sasyncd.

Everything seems to be working fine except for VPN traffic. We have 33
active ipsec tunnels set up through isakmpd which are establishing
fine (verified through ipsecctl -sa) and they are even passing traffic
if it is originated on the internal interface IP of the firewall
(xx.yy.zz.1 or xx.yy.zz.3). Unfortunately, traffic from other hosts
located on the internal network (e.g. xx.yy.zz.8) is getting ICMP Host
Unreachable responses.

# tcpdump -ni em0
...
13:49:59.752891 xx.yy.zz.8  vpn.net.1.1: icmp: echo request
13:49:59.752950 xx.yy.zz.3  xx.yy.zz.8: icmp: host vpn.net.1.1
unreachable
...


net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 is set in sysctl.conf and non-VPN traffic is
traversing the firewalls with no problems.

I can see all the routes created by the ipsec flows using:

# netstat -rnf encap
Routing tables

Encap:
Source Port Destination Port Proto SA(Address/Proto/Type/Direction)
vpn.net/16 0 xx.yy.zz.0/26 0 0 vpn.peer.ip.addr/esp/use/in
xx.yy.zz.0/26 0 vpn.net/16 0 0 vpn.peer.ip.addr/esp/require/out
.
.
.

Because of a mis-communication, these machines currently have a full
set of internet routing tables through BGP (netstat -rn takes a
while). I'm not sure if this may have something to do with it. The
networks accessible through the VPN are not routable over the internet.

In pf.conf I have:
...
set block-policy return
set skip on { lo0 $pfsync_if enc0 }
block return log all
antispoof quick for { lo internal } inet
match out on egress scrub (no-df random-id)
match in on egress scrub (reassemble tcp)
pass on egress proto carp
pass on internal proto carp
pass in on egress proto esp from $vpn_peer to $external_carp_ip
pass in on egress proto udp from $vpn_peer to $external_carp_ip port
{isakmp, ipsec-nat-t}
pass inet proto icmp all icmp-type echoreq
pass out on egress inet proto udp from any to any port 33433  33626
pass in proto igmp all allow-opts
pass out
pass in on internal inet
pass in proto tcp from $dmz_net to (egress) port bgp keep state
pass on egress inet proto ospf
...

I would really appreciate any assistance in getting this traffic
flowing since I'm running out of ideas on where to look. I have seen
some people suggesting that static routes need to be added to get
traffic flowing through the tunnels but others have said this isn't so
and the encap routing table on the machine seems to indicate that this
should just work.

Thanks,

- Aner



== dmesg output 
# dmesg
OpenBSD 5.0 (GENERIC.MP) #59: Wed Aug 17 10:19:44 MDT 2011
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class)
1.67 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE

real mem = 2137186304 (2038MB)
avail mem = 2092146688 (1995MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/06/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xfc120 (24 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 080015 date 10/06/2010
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET GSCI
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P1(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) USB0(S4) USB1(S4)
USB2(S4) USB3(S4) EUSB(S4) P0P4(S4) P0P5(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4)
P0P8(S4) P0P9(S4) HDAC(S4) USB4(S4) USB5(S4) USBE(S4) GBEC(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 

hw.sensors for arc no longer works with 5.0?

2012-02-01 Thread Tim Howe
I have a number of servers with almost identical hardware (Supermicro
MB, Areca 1210 or 1220 RAID card).

These span from OpenBSD 4.5 to 5.0.

In anything before 5.0, I am able to monitor the RAID status via snmp
at OPENBSD-SENSORS-MIB::sensorStatus.  The 5.0 boxes are returning
unknown status (and the device IOD has changed from 3 to 46).

sysctl reports differently in 5.0:

4.9 box (this is same in 4.8):
hw.sensors.arc0.drive0=online (sd0), OK

5.0 box:
hw.sensors.arc0.drive0=unknown (sd0), UNKNOWN

I can't seem to find any mention that I should be doing something
different as of 5.0.  Has something broken?  Do I need to do something
different?

Thanks for any help.

dmesg from 4.9 box:

OpenBSD 4.9 (GENERIC.MP) #819: Wed Mar  2 06:57:49 MST 2011
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 3486973952 (3325MB)
avail mem = 3380129792 (3223MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xcfedf000 (39 entries)
bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version 1.2a date 12/19/2008
bios0: Supermicro X7SBL
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP _MAR TCPA MCFG APIC BOOT SPCR ERST HEST BERT EINJ SLIC 
SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PEG_(S5) PEX_(S5) LAN_(S5) USB4(S5) USB5(S5) USB7(S5) 
ESB2(S5) EXP1(S5) EXP5(S5) EXP6(S5) USB1(S5) USB2(S5) USB3(S5) USB6(S5) 
ESB1(S5) PCIB(S5) KBC0(S1) MSE0(S1) COM1(S5) COM2(S5) PWRB(S3)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-16
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3110 @ 3.00GHz, 2992.88 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE,NXE,LONG
cpu0: 6MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: apic clock running at 332MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3110 @ 3.00GHz, 2992.50 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE,NXE,LONG
cpu1: 6MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEG_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX_)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 5 (EXP1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 13 (EXP5)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 15 (EXP6)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 17 (PCIB)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
acpivideo0 at acpi0: IGD0
ipmi at mainbus0 not configured
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2992 MHz: speeds: 3000, 2667, 2333, 2000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 3200/3210 Host rev 0x01
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 3200/3210 PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 16 
(irq 5)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel IOP333 PCIE-PCIX rev 0x00
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
arc0 at pci2 dev 14 function 0 Areca ARC-1220 rev 0x00: apic 2 int 18 (irq 11)
arc0: 8 ports, 256MB SDRAM, firmware V1.49 2010-12-02
scsibus0 at arc0: 16 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: Areca, ARC-1220-VOL#00, R001 SCSI3 0/direct 
fixed
sd0: 953674MB, 512 bytes/sec, 1953124352 sec total
ppb2 at pci1 dev 0 function 2 Intel IOP333 PCIE-PCIX rev 0x00
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 
5)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 17 (irq 
10)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 18 (irq 
11)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 18 (irq 
11)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 
5)
pci4 at ppb3 bus 5
ppb4 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 
5)
pci5 at ppb4 bus 13
em0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82573E) rev 0x03: apic 2 int 
16 (irq 5), address 00:30:48:f9:71:3e
ppb5 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 17 (irq 
10)
pci6 at ppb5 bus 15
em1 at pci6 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82573L) rev 0x00: apic 2 int 
17 (irq 10), address 00:30:48:f9:71:3f
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 23 (irq 
10)
uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 22 (irq 
11)
uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 18 (irq 
11)
ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 23 (irq 
10)
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb6 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0x92
pci7 at ppb6 bus 17
vga1 at pci7 dev 4 function 0 XGI Technology Volari Z9s/Z9m rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 

Quotas and DUIDs

2012-02-01 Thread Sime Ramov
What is the latest status on this? Latest info I could find is a patch
on dev list from September last year. Snapshot from few days ago is
still affected, e.g:

quotacheck -a
quotacheck: 6fa46c18fccf6125.h: No such file or directory
THE FOLLOWING FILE SYSTEM HAD AN UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY:
ffs: 6fa46c18fccf6125.h (/home)

Is there maybe a workaround until the source gets patched?



more Thinkpad T60 X/video woes (5.0-stable amd64)

2012-02-01 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
In a thread back in November 2011,
  http://marc.info/?t=132173453400070r=1w=1 
I reported intermittent kernel/X hangs (usually under near-idle loads)
on a Thinkpad T60 widescreen laptop (alas I misspelled the name as
Tinkpad in the Subject: line) running 5.0-stable amd64.  My full
dmesg is given in the first message in that thread,
  http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=132105242827683w=1
along with various other (hopefully-)relevant information.  There's
also more information on the problem symptoms in my later messages in
that thread,
  http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=132103762123592w=1
  http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=132137790200900w=1

I've now gathered a bit more information, and have some new questions
for the list:


Moving to 5.0-stable made no difference to this problem.
Switching between GENERIC.mp and GENERIC made no difference to this
problem.

My original reports were with X autoconfiguring (i.e.,
/etc/X11/xorg.conf did NOT exist), using the Radeon driver:

% dmesg|grep vga
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 1 int 16

Since I don't actually need/use accelerated 3-D video, I've tried to
switch to the generic VESA X driver.  Alas, I haven't been able to
construct an  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  which successfully uses the VESA
driver at the full (15.4 widescreen) hardware screen resolution of
1680x1050 pixels.  (None of my attempts would go above 1400x1050
pixels, stretched in a horribly ugly way to fill the screen.)

As a last-ditch measure to try to get a reliable computer, I've tried
disabling ALL video acceleration using the xorg.conf given below.  This
works -- I've had no more hangs in the 2 months I've been using this
configuration (now with 5.0-stable GENERIC.mp), whereas before I was
getting multiple hangs/week.  Alas, this has come at the price of
painfully slow scrolling in xterm, painfully slow window drags, and
general video performance that reminds me of that 8 MB Sparcstation
SLC I remember using back around 1990 or so. :( :(

So... questions for the list:
* Can anyone point me to a working xorg.conf to use the VESA video
  driver on a T60 @ 1680x1050 pixel resolution?
* Can anyone suggest a better fix or workaround for my X hangs?
  Loosing 3-D acceleration is no problem for me, but 2-D acceleration
  would be nice...
* If I do switch back to the Radeon driver, and the hangs reoccur,
  is there any information I could gather from a hung machine, and/or
  any logging I could switch on before a hang, that would be useful
  in further diagnosing the problem?
* Starting from a cold boot, my current xorg.conf (given below) doesn't
  work -- X is unable to properly initialize the video, resulting in
  a screen display that's vaguely abstract-art bars of white pixels
  scattered around the screen, with no X cursor visible.  So, right
  now, after each cold boot I first start X with an xorg.conf in which
  the line

Option NoAccel# [bool]

  is commented out (with thie xorg.conf X starts fine, but is vulnerable
  to crashes), then immediately shut down X, then restart with the
  no-acceleration xorg.conf (the one given below).  This procedure works,
  but is awkward.  Is there a way around this kludge?

--- begin /etc/X11/xorg.conf to disable ALL video acceleration ---
Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  dbe
Load  dri
Load  dri2
Load  extmod
Load  glx
Load  record
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol wsmouse
Option  Device /dev/wsmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
EndSection

Section Device
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz,
### percent: f%
### [arg]: arg optional
Option NoAccel# [bool]
#Option SWcursor  # [bool]
#Option Dac6Bit   # [bool]
#Option Dac8Bit   # [bool]
#Option BusType 

hp microserver n40l dmesg

2012-02-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
cc'ing misc as I seem to remember someone asking about these.

acpi tables in http://junkpile.org/hp-microserver.tgz and dsdt decoded
in http://junkpile.org/hp-microserver/hp-microserver.DSDT.dsl
if anyone's interested (acpi0: unable to load \\_SB_._INI.EXH1)

seems to work okay so far though I haven't pushed it yet; nice and
quiet (fairly slow large fan), pity about the lack of rs232 though.

OpenBSD 5.1-beta (GENERIC.MP) #190: Mon Jan 30 16:20:45 MST 2012
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 2112421888 (2014MB)
avail mem = 2042093568 (1947MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xfb330 (35 entries)
bios0: vendor HP version O41 date 07/29/2011
bios0: HP ProLiant MicroServer
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG SPMI OEMB HPET EINJ BERT ERST HEST SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PCE2(S4) PCE3(S4) PCE4(S4) PCE5(S4) PCE6(S4) PCE7(S4) 
PCE9(S4) PCEA(S4) PCEB(S4) PCEC(S4) SBAZ(S4) P0PC(S4) PE20(S4) PE21(S4) 
PE22(S4) PE23(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: AMD Turion(tm) II Neo N40L Dual-Core Processor, 1497.78 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,MWAIT,CX16,POPCNT,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,NODEID
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 
16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 16 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 48 4KB entries fully associative, 48 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: AMD Turion(tm) II Neo N40L Dual-Core Processor, 1497.52 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,MWAIT,CX16,POPCNT,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,NODEID
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 
16-way L2 cache
cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 16 4MB entries fully associative
cpu1: DTLB 48 4KB entries fully associative, 48 4MB entries fully associative
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 21, 24 pins
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318180 Hz
acpi0: unable to load \\_SB_._INI.EXH1
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P1)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCE2)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCE4)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCE6)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
ipmi at mainbus0 not configured
cpu0: 1497 MHz: speeds: 1500 1300 1000 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 AMD RS880 Host rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 vendor Hewlett-Packard, unknown product 0x9602 
rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 18
drm0 at radeondrm0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 AMD RS780 PCIE rev 0x00
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
bge0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5723 rev 0x10, BCM5784 A1 
(0x5784100): apic 2 int 18, address e4:11:5b:12:bd:d6
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5784 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 4
ahci0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 ATI SBx00 SATA rev 0x40: apic 2 int 19, AHCI 
1.2
scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, Hitachi HDS72202, JKAO SCSI3 0/direct 
fixed naa.5000cca222f32c62
sd0: 1907729MB, 512 bytes/sector, 3907029168 sectors
sd1 at scsibus0 targ 2 lun 0: ATA, Hitachi HDS72202, JKAO SCSI3 0/direct 
fixed naa.5000cca222dd41be
sd1: 1907729MB, 512 bytes/sector, 3907029168 sectors
sd2 at scsibus0 targ 3 lun 0: ATA, VB0250EAVER, HPG7 SCSI3 0/direct fixed 
naa.5000c50044a89843
sd2: 238475MB, 512 bytes/sector, 488397168 sectors
ohci0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 ATI SB700 USB rev 0x00: apic 2 int 18, 
version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 18 function 2 ATI SB700 USB2 rev 0x00: apic 2 int 17
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 ATI EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ohci1 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 ATI SB700 USB rev 0x00: apic 2 int 18, 
version 1.0, legacy support
ehci1 at pci0 dev 19 function 2 ATI SB700 USB2 rev 0x00: apic 2 int 17
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 ATI EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
piixpm0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 ATI SBx00 SMBus rev 0x42: polling
iic0 at piixpm0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM ECC PC3-10600 with thermal sensor
pciide0 at pci0 dev 20 function 1 ATI SB700 IDE rev 0x40: DMA, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pcib0 at pci0 dev 20 function 3 ATI SB700 ISA rev 0x40
ppb2 at pci0 dev 20 function 

FR: Make it possible to turn off untrusted users ability to read cmdline arguments of processes they don't own

2012-02-01 Thread Paul Dejean
Even though it's bad practice, a lot of commonly programs will request
passwords or similar sensitive information as command line arguments.
For instance, curl, svn, useradd... There will usually be a way to
work around doing things this way (curl can read from a config file
for instance), but doing so is a hassle (have to write a new config
file for each request).

I would really like some way to turn the access unprivileged users
have to this information on and off. Ideally I'd like it off by
default in OpenBSD (secure by default).

Also I would like to add, that even if you folks shoot down this FR as
being an awful idea. It's good that there's an operating system
community where I feel comfortable bringing up this request, where I
wouldn't hear things like:
You have untrusted users on your system? What a n00b
All security features are off by default, why should it be our
responsibility to protects admins from their stupid mistakes?
omg why should you care. hunting for sensitive information? it's not
like anyone actually does that



Re: ipsec tunnel traffic getting icmp host unreachable

2012-02-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-02-01, Aner Perez a...@ncstech.com wrote:
 Ok, to answer my own question, it seems like you need a non-encap 
 route to the network on the other side of the VPN.  If you don't have 
 a regular route to that network, you get host unreachable responses.

 To test this, I tried adding a route for the specific network being 
 accessed, pointing to our default gateway.  Doing this allowed the 
 traffic to flow through the VPN.  Notice that the route I added was 
 not pointing to the remote VPN peer, just to our regular gateway 
 router to the internet.

 Next, I removed the specific route to the remote VPN network, and 
 added a default route pointing to our internet gateway.  This also 
 worked and allowed traffic to flow through the VPN.

 Is this expected behavior?  Do I need a static route to a remote 
 network before I can pass traffic to it through an IPSEC tunnel?

Yes. Without a regular route a packet doesn't get far enough up the
stack to do a flow lookup.



Re: Odd Network Lockups

2012-02-01 Thread Nick Templeton
Anybody else have any suggestions as to what I can do to further
troubleshoot this? After a recent upgrade the issue still exists (I've
provided the latest dmesg). I've taken to adding a periodic reboot to
my cron jobs so that I don't get stuck without network access while
I'm away from the machine, that's obviously not a real solution.

-Nick

OpenBSD 5.1-beta (GENERIC.MP) #189: Thu Jan 26 16:06:17 MST 2012
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11memory_size
real mem = 4216655872 (4021MB)
avail mem = 4090253312 (3900MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0450 (71 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version 2.4.0 date 05/24/2007
bios0: Dell Inc. Dell DXC061
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT MCFG HPET DUMY SLIC SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI4(S5) PCI2(S5) PCI3(S5)
PCI1(S5) PCI5(S5) PCI6(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3)
USB3(S3) USB4(S3)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz, 1862.28 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,NXE,LONG,LAHF
cpu0: 2MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: apic clock running at 266MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz, 1862.02 MHz
cpu1:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,NXE,LONG,LAHF
cpu1: 2MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI4)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI3)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI5)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI6)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1862 MHz: speeds: 1867, 1600 MHz
memory map conflict 0xbf655c00/0x9aa400
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82G965 Host rev 0x02
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82G965 PCIE rev 0x02: msi
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
em0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 MT (82574L) rev 0x00:
msi, address 00:1b:21:ab:bf:ca
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82G965 Video rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xc000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16
drm0 at inteldrm0
Intel 82G965 Video rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
em1 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH8 IFE rev 0x02: msi, address
00:16:76:c1:5b:1f
uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 16
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 17
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 22
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801H HD Audio rev 0x02: msi
azalia0: codecs: Conexant/0x2bfa, Sigmatel STAC9227X, using Sigmatel
STAC9227X
audio0 at azalia0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02: msi
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
em2 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 MT (82574L) rev 0x00:
msi, address 00:1b:21:ab:d3:53
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 23
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 17
uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 18
ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 23
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb2 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xf2
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
TI TSB43AB22 FireWire rev 0x00 at pci3 dev 10 function 0 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801HH LPC rev 0x02
ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801H AHCI rev 0x02: msi, AHCI 1.1
scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, SAMSUNG SP2504C, VT10 SCSI3
0/direct fixed t10.ATA_SAMSUNG_SP2504C_S09QJ1SP112542
sd0: 238418MB, 512 bytes/sector, 488281250 sectors
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: TSSTcorp, CDRWDVD TSL462D, DE10 ATAPI
5/cdrom removable
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801H SMBus rev 0x02: apic 8 int
20
iic0 at ichiic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
spdmem2 at iic0 addr 0x52: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5

Re: hw.sensors for arc no longer works with 5.0?

2012-02-01 Thread Tim Howe
On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:44:43 -0800
Tim Howe th...@bendtel.net wrote:

 [...]
 In anything before 5.0, I am able to monitor the RAID status via snmp
 at OPENBSD-SENSORS-MIB::sensorStatus.  The 5.0 boxes are returning
 unknown status (and the device IOD has changed from 3 to 46).
 
 sysctl reports differently in 5.0:
 
 4.9 box (this is same in 4.8):
 hw.sensors.arc0.drive0=online (sd0), OK
 
 5.0 box:
 hw.sensors.arc0.drive0=unknown (sd0), UNKNOWN

Installed the latest snap...

Seems to work again on 5.1-beta on the new oid:

hw.sensors.arc0.drive0=online (sd0), OK

# snmpget -v 1 -c [string] [my ip] OPENBSD-SENSORS-MIB::sensorStatus.46  
OPENBSD-SENSORS-MIB::sensorStatus.46 = INTEGER: ok(1)

\o/

--TimH



Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-02-01 Thread Brett
  Dave Anderson wrote [2012-01-28 15:13+0100]:
  [.]
  I haven't yet had a chance to look into how cvs works beyond
  reading the man page, faq, etc.
 

 
  If you're doing your updates in such a regular manner, i think
  your best bet is cvsync(1), even if that means additional local
  storage - but it is *far* more efficient in both, time and
  traffic.  (Not to talk about the possibility to do 'cvs log' and
  the like locally, without internet connection; if that's an issue.)
  Pears similar ciao,
 
  --steffen
 

 
 thanks... this motivated me to use cvsync from anoncvs and use a
 CVSROOT=/home/amit/MYLOCALREPO to update from cvs. Much much faster
 and while initial checkout from cvsync takes 5-10 hrs, the subsequent
 updates are lightning quick.
 
 --amit
 

Yes, I also finally got around to trying cvsync because of this thread and its 
a lot quicker. 

And even more speedy when I added a scanfile /root/cvsync-scanfile line in 
the collection part of the config file.



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Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise.

2012-02-01 Thread Lars
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

 It's called viral marketing, PR, social crap whatever. Raspberry Pi
 foundation claims something about support for schools and
 blahblahblah, but in fact was created but one of engineers of
 Broadcom. It's just test bed for their proprietary crap or vendor lock
 in via children and a way how to lower taxes via charity organization
 without real charity.




What's so funny is that they put GNU/Linux on it, when gNU is supposed to
be about FREE dom. LOL. Fucking LOL.

I think Raspberry Pi isn't so useful for my needs anyway because for
example it only has one network port, not two or three...

For poor people in third world countries I think they would be better off
buying used 1ghz-2ghz Desktop computers for $50/each that includes PCI
slots and such. I've purchased some computers less than 50 dollars. The
only advantage of the raspberry pi over a used desktop PC is that it uses
much less power (1 Watt or whatever) and that it is really small. I don't
see how a small tiny circuit will help third world countries but I can see
an advantage to 1 watt electricity.



Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise.

2012-02-01 Thread Aaron Mason
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:05 AM, corey clingo clinge...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com wrote:
 if you feel this is a tired and worn-out question, then please just move
 along.

 two systems on which i'm happily running openbsd on are:
 alix and mac mini. alix for firewalls/thin clients, and the mac mini can
 handle pretty much anything i throw at it. both are relatively cheap (new alix
 and used minis) and function well. in addition to firewalls/thin clients, my
 needs do not include anything high-performance or high-bandwidth - mostly
 infrastructure services such as dns/dhcp/web for small companies.

 so what i'm looking for is something small like (or smaller than) these two
 systems, and just as stable, while being cheaper. and i'm looking for
 recommendations, not just suggestions - if you haven't tried it and loved it,
 don't bother mentioning it.

 i'm hoping the raspberrypi will eventually be supported on openbsd (if the
 hardware proves to be stable, $35 sounds GREAT) but i don't have the skills to
 go there myself.


 Alixes are pretty cheap. Not Sheevaplug or RasberryPi cheap, but cheap
 for the capabilities they have. I mean, at the end of the day, your
 clients are relying on these devices for potentially business-critical
 services. How much do they really want to skimp?

Not only that, some Sheevaplug implementations don't dissipate heat
very well, to the point where some external components are very hot to
the point of burning your fingers.  And this was from one of the
ethernet ports - I'd hate to think what it'd do to the RJ45 connector
over time.


 Personally I've lately been moving upmarket with this kind of device.
 You get better performance (e.g., faster CPUs, Intel GbE rather than
 Via, etc.), a more solid build, and I've never had to solder my own
 surface mount caps on
 one to fix a clock oscillator issue as I did with my home Soekris once
 :)

Oh absolutely, you definitely get your money's worth in IT, for better
or for worse.


 All that said, one day when I retire and want to stretch my brain to
 keep from getting senile, I'll probably try to port OpenBSD to a
 couple of embedded-ish devices I currently use. The hardware is
 generally decent from the outside, but I can't help but believe they'd
 be better, faster, and more secure with OpenBSD than the iffy
 Linux+vendor enhancements that they typically come with.

 Corey


That's on my bucket list - get at least somewhat proficient at kernel
hacking, so I have something productive and brain-testing to do when I
retire.

-- 
Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict
I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse



Aprenda Como Elaborar Manuales de Politicas y Procedimientos

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RT 4 on OpenBSD 5.0

2012-02-01 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Hi,

  I would like to know if somebody is running RT 4 on OpenBSD. It seems
the port documentation is not clear enough about how to configure RT on
chrooted apache or not chrooted at all. Also, if someone is running RT
with mod_fastcgi I am interested too.

  Regards,

  Alvaro



Re: FR: Make it possible to turn off untrusted users ability to read cmdline arguments of processes they don't own

2012-02-01 Thread Richard Toohey
On 2/02/2012, at 12:30 PM, Paul Dejean wrote:

 Even though it's bad practice, a lot of commonly programs will request
 passwords or similar sensitive information as command line arguments.
 For instance, curl, svn, useradd... There will usually be a way to
 work around doing things this way (curl can read from a config file
 for instance), but doing so is a hassle (have to write a new config
 file for each request).

 I would really like some way to turn the access unprivileged users
 have to this information on and off. Ideally I'd like it off by
 default in OpenBSD (secure by default).

 Also I would like to add, that even if you folks shoot down this FR as
 being an awful idea. It's good that there's an operating system
 community where I feel comfortable bringing up this request, where I
 wouldn't hear things like:
 You have untrusted users on your system? What a n00b
 All security features are off by default, why should it be our
 responsibility to protects admins from their stupid mistakes?
 omg why should you care. hunting for sensitive information? it's not
 like anyone actually does that

I've got no comment on the idea itself ...

In this community, the reply is likely to be great idea, where is your
sample implementation?

There are not a lot of developers - I'm not one - so generally ideas need to
be accompanied by code.

It's a bit like the school P.T.A. that I help out with - there are lots of
ideas, but very few helpers - ideas welcome, but they need to be attached to
someone willing to actually do the work.

HTH.



Re: What's the location trash after move to trash

2012-02-01 Thread lbvvbooo lbvvbooo
I checked folder ~/.local/share/Trash/files/, and test it again, still can't 
find the deleted files. The trash icon does NOT show them either.

Anybody help? 

Thanks.


 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 08:44:20 +0100
 From: ajacou...@bsdfrog.org
 To: lbvvb...@live.com
 CC: misc@openbsd.org
 Subject: Re: What's the location trash after move to trash
 
 On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 07:31:23AM +, lbvvbooo lbvvbooo wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'm using openbsd 5.0 with gnome-session. When I delete items under gnome, 
  first I choose items and click the right button of the mouse, then choose 
  move to trash. Question is I can't find the deleted items in the Trash 
  icon of the desktop. So, where the deleted items? How do I delete them 
  completely, like empty trash in windows?
  
  Here's the gnome suits I used, but the version number is incorrect.
  
  pkg_add -i -vv gnome-session-2.30.2p3.tgz
  pkg_add -i -vv gdm-2.20.11p1.tgz
  pkg_add -i -vv metacity-2.30.1p1.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-panel-2.30.2p2.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv nautilus-2.30.1p2.tgz
  pkg_add -i -vv gnome-terminal-2.30.2p0.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-control-center-2.30.1p0.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-menus-2.30.2p0.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-settings-daemon-2.30.2p1.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-themes-2.30.2.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-themes-extras-2.22.0p8.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-utils-2.30.0p0.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-applets2-2.30.0p2.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-system-monitor-2.28.1p3.tgz
  # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-nettool-2.30.0p0.tgz
 
 Deleted files are under: ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
 
 If the trash icon does show them, then you probably have an issue with the 
 gamin file monitor (which will be replaced in the next release anyway).
 
 -- 
 Antoine



Re: What's the location trash after move to trash

2012-02-01 Thread Richard Toohey
On 2/02/2012, at 6:05 PM, lbvvbooo lbvvbooo wrote:

 I checked folder ~/.local/share/Trash/files/, and test it again, still can't
find the deleted files. The trash icon does NOT show them either.

 Anybody help?


If you know one of the file names or part of one of the filenames - use find.

 Thanks.


 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 08:44:20 +0100
 From: ajacou...@bsdfrog.org
 To: lbvvb...@live.com
 CC: misc@openbsd.org
 Subject: Re: What's the location trash after move to trash

 On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 07:31:23AM +, lbvvbooo lbvvbooo wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm using openbsd 5.0 with gnome-session. When I delete items under gnome,
first I choose items and click the right button of the mouse, then choose
move to trash. Question is I can't find the deleted items in the Trash icon
of the desktop. So, where the deleted items? How do I delete them completely,
like empty trash in windows?

 Here's the gnome suits I used, but the version number is incorrect.

 pkg_add -i -vv gnome-session-2.30.2p3.tgz
 pkg_add -i -vv gdm-2.20.11p1.tgz
 pkg_add -i -vv metacity-2.30.1p1.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-panel-2.30.2p2.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv nautilus-2.30.1p2.tgz
 pkg_add -i -vv gnome-terminal-2.30.2p0.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-control-center-2.30.1p0.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-menus-2.30.2p0.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-settings-daemon-2.30.2p1.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-themes-2.30.2.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-themes-extras-2.22.0p8.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-utils-2.30.0p0.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-applets2-2.30.0p2.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-system-monitor-2.28.1p3.tgz
 # pkg_add -i -vv gnome-nettool-2.30.0p0.tgz

 Deleted files are under: ~/.local/share/Trash/files/

 If the trash icon does show them, then you probably have an issue with the
gamin file monitor (which will be replaced in the next release anyway).

 --
 Antoine



Re: FR: Make it possible to turn off untrusted users ability to read cmdline arguments of processes they don't own

2012-02-01 Thread Paul Dejean
I'll start working on a patch (even though it'll take me forever) if I
can be confident it wouldn't be vetoed because people don't like the
concept.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Richard Toohey
richardtoo...@paradise.net.nz wrote:
 On 2/02/2012, at 12:30 PM, Paul Dejean wrote:

 Even though it's bad practice, a lot of commonly programs will request
 passwords or similar sensitive information as command line arguments.
 For instance, curl, svn, useradd... There will usually be a way to
 work around doing things this way (curl can read from a config file
 for instance), but doing so is a hassle (have to write a new config
 file for each request).

 I would really like some way to turn the access unprivileged users
 have to this information on and off. Ideally I'd like it off by
 default in OpenBSD (secure by default).

 Also I would like to add, that even if you folks shoot down this FR as
 being an awful idea. It's good that there's an operating system
 community where I feel comfortable bringing up this request, where I
 wouldn't hear things like:
 You have untrusted users on your system? What a n00b
 All security features are off by default, why should it be our
 responsibility to protects admins from their stupid mistakes?
 omg why should you care. hunting for sensitive information? it's not
 like anyone actually does that

 I've got no comment on the idea itself ...

 In this community, the reply is likely to be great idea, where is your 
 sample implementation?

 There are not a lot of developers - I'm not one - so generally ideas need to 
 be accompanied by code.

 It's a bit like the school P.T.A. that I help out with - there are lots of 
 ideas, but very few helpers - ideas welcome, but they need to be attached to 
 someone willing to actually do the work.

 HTH.