Re: pledge violation in firefox-60 on snapshots

2018-05-15 Thread Martijn van Duren
$ grep SYS_fork /usr/include/sys/syscall.h
#define SYS_fork2

See: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=152623658627250&w=2

You probably don't run dbus, so I assume you're going to need to start
it up in your .xsession file.

martijn@

On 05/16/18 03:59, William Orr wrote:
> Hey there,
> 
> When visiting the following health insurance site: 
> 
> https://www.cignaglobal.com/CASPAI/public/SignIn.do?application=CIEB_IPMI&country=GB&language=en&select-roles=all&safeReturn=https://www.cignaglobal.com/ma/pages/CASPA/Landing.html&domain=.
> 
> Clicking the password field will consistently cause that tab in firefox
> to crash with a pledge violation (calling fork):
> 
> firefox[75379]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
> firefox[99617]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
> firefox[89996]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
> firefox[29564]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
> firefox[58111]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
> firefox[97980]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
> firefox[37363]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
> 
> Is anyone else seeing something similar? I've repro'd this in safe mode
> with add-ons disabled. I'm runnning a snapshot as of 3 days ago with
> firefox from packages.
> 
> % pkg_info firefox
> Information for inst:firefox-60.0
> 
> 
> Following is a full dmesg. Let me know if there's other info that I can
> provide. There are other firefox pledge violations in there, but I have
> no indication that they're related.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> OpenBSD 6.3-current (GENERIC.MP) #29: Fri May  4 09:22:48 MDT 2018
> dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
> real mem = 17040244736 (16250MB)
> avail mem = 16515768320 (15750MB)
> mpath0 at root
> scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
> mainbus0 at root
> bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xee7f0 (26 entries)
> bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "P2.90" date 07/11/2013
> bios0: ASRock Z77 Extreme4
> acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
> acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
> acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT MCFG SSDT AAFT HPET SSDT SSDT SSDT BGRT
> acpi0: wakeup devices UAR1(S4) P0P1(S4) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) 
> USB4(S3) USB5(S3) USB6(S3) USB7(S3) RP01(S4) RP02(S4) RP03(S4) RP04(S4) 
> RP05(S4) BR40(S4) RP06(S4) [...]
> acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
> acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
> cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3500.52 MHz
> cpu0: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM
> 
> ,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
> 
> cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
> mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
> cpu0: apic clock running at 100MHz
> cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.1, IBE
> cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
> cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3500.02 MHz
> cpu1: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM
> 
> ,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
> 
> cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
> cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor)
> cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3500.02 MHz
> cpu2: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM
> 
> ,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
> 
> cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0
> cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
> cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3500.02 MHz
> cpu3: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM
> 
> ,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
> 
> cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0
> cpu4 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
> 

Re: pledge violation in firefox-60 on snapshots

2018-05-15 Thread Renato Aguiar

Hi,

I'm also facing similar issues with firefox-60.0 installed from 
ports:


orion# tail -n 4 /var/log/messages
May 15 21:01:58 orion /bsd: firefox[21099]: pledge "inet", syscall 
105
May 15 21:01:58 orion /bsd: firefox[21099]: pledge "stdio", 
syscall 72
May 15 21:08:29 orion /bsd: firefox[13436]: pledge "inet", syscall 
105
May 15 21:08:29 orion /bsd: firefox[13436]: pledge "stdio", 
syscall 28

orion# uname -a
OpenBSD orion.lan 6.3 GENERIC.MP#38 amd64

It happens when I browse ebay.com website.

Regards,

--
Renato Aguiar



pledge violation in firefox-60 on snapshots

2018-05-15 Thread William Orr
Hey there,

When visiting the following health insurance site: 

https://www.cignaglobal.com/CASPAI/public/SignIn.do?application=CIEB_IPMI&country=GB&language=en&select-roles=all&safeReturn=https://www.cignaglobal.com/ma/pages/CASPA/Landing.html&domain=.

Clicking the password field will consistently cause that tab in firefox
to crash with a pledge violation (calling fork):

firefox[75379]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
firefox[99617]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
firefox[89996]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
firefox[29564]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
firefox[58111]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
firefox[97980]: pledge "proc", syscall 2
firefox[37363]: pledge "proc", syscall 2

Is anyone else seeing something similar? I've repro'd this in safe mode
with add-ons disabled. I'm runnning a snapshot as of 3 days ago with
firefox from packages.

% pkg_info firefox
Information for inst:firefox-60.0


Following is a full dmesg. Let me know if there's other info that I can
provide. There are other firefox pledge violations in there, but I have
no indication that they're related.

Thanks!

OpenBSD 6.3-current (GENERIC.MP) #29: Fri May  4 09:22:48 MDT 2018
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 17040244736 (16250MB)
avail mem = 16515768320 (15750MB)
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xee7f0 (26 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "P2.90" date 07/11/2013
bios0: ASRock Z77 Extreme4
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT MCFG SSDT AAFT HPET SSDT SSDT SSDT BGRT
acpi0: wakeup devices UAR1(S4) P0P1(S4) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) USB4(S3) 
USB5(S3) USB6(S3) USB7(S3) RP01(S4) RP02(S4) RP03(S4) RP04(S4) RP05(S4) 
BR40(S4) RP06(S4) [...]
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3500.52 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM

,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN

cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 100MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.1, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3500.02 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM

,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN

cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3500.02 MHz
cpu2: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM

,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN

cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3500.02 MHz
cpu3: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM

,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN

cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0
cpu4 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu4: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3500.02 MHz
cpu4: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM

,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN

cpu4: 256

Re: print usb printer by [ Google Cloud Print for Chromium ]

2018-05-15 Thread Jordan Geoghegan

On 05/15/18 18:19, IL Ka wrote:

Hello Jordan,
>> you can do some neat things and avoid having to remove the ulpt(4) 
driver from the kernel


What can be the reason to remove it?
Some people remove the ulpt driver to allow CUPS to interface easier 
with their printer. This solution has always irritated me, and I prefer 
using lpd to manage my printers. CUPS can still be used to print to an 
lpd based print server, the only difference is that CUPS isn't handling 
the spooling and network print jobs etc server-side.
Obsd does not have FAQ about that, but freebsd has pretty good 
article: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/printing.html

And almost everything covered by it is true for openbsd.

This here is a good place to start: https://man.openbsd.org/lpd.8

No FAQ for printing, but the man pages are your friend. Many moons ago, 
I as complete rookie at Unix printing, managed to set up my friends 
restaurant using an OpenBSD lpd print server to drive all of his receipt 
and kitchen print jobs. I managed to pull this off using only the man 
pages. The OpenBSD man pages are a treasure trove of knowledge-- don't 
always depend on the FAQ's entirely! The FAQ serves to supplement the 
man pages, not replace them.




Re: print usb printer by [ Google Cloud Print for Chromium ]

2018-05-15 Thread IL Ka
Hello Jordan,
>> you can do some neat things and avoid having to remove the ulpt(4)
driver from the kernel

What can be the reason to remove it?

If I understand it correctly, this driver provides support for "USB printer
class"
( http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/devclass_docs/usbprint11a021811.pdf )

It creates some kind of "channel" (like LPT port) which can be used to
query printer status,
obtain its ID etc.
Application then sends plaintext or PCL or PostScript or whatever printer
supports to this "channel".

Sysadmin configures "printcap" by adding filters that convert data to PCL
or postscript, and
lpd creates "pool", while CUPS ties all layers providing IP Printing and
other protocols to submit print jobs.

Obsd does not have FAQ about that, but freebsd has pretty good article:
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/printing.html
And almost everything covered by it is true for openbsd.


Re: Cannot access internet with virtual switch

2018-05-15 Thread Aham Brahmasmi
Thank you Koshibe-san for your reply.

Here is the output of ping, after the steps:
$ ping 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
ping: sendmsg: Network is down
ping: wrote 8.8.8.8 64 chars, ret=-1
...

So, it seems the ping fails, except, this time there is some output.


> > Interestingly, while searching for addlocal, I encountered a
> > presentation on switch [1]. On page 13 of that pdf, there is mention of
> > the switch sharing the STP code with bridge. Would it be correct to
> > assume that there would be no loops if there was STP in the switch?
> 
> Even with a bridge, you'd need to enable STP and set priority values
> on the ports for it to work, so you're correct - if there were any
> loops, the bridge probably wouldn't have worked either. But you've
> also seen that, for switch(4), the STP-related options aren't
> available in ifconfig, and as far as I can tell switchd doesn't do
> topology/loop detection (and probably won't want to rely on (R)STP to
> do so). So, the code might be shared, but is likely not used.

I do not know much about the network stack, but I went grepping in the
source, and I encountered a bstp_create function call in the
switch_clone_create function within sys/net/if_switch.c file. This
bstp_create function seems to be defined in sys/net/bridgestp.c [2].
I may be wrong here, but the bridge seems to have some kind of STP,
since there is the "rstp" in the ifconfig output. Whether the switch
does indeed use STP, and if it does, does it work, is something that I
unfortunately cannot determine.

For tap0, I ran "tcpdump -nettti tap0" on a normal machine, without
the above vether. I saw a large stream of messages. Then I ran it on
em0 interface. The "tcpdump -nettti em0" closely matched the output of
tap0 interface output. This led me to try to understand tap interfaces.
I encountered an article [3] and an image [4]. My hunch is that tap0
is sort of the mirror equivalent of em0. In terms of that image, em0
is the green physical NIC and tap0 is the Virtual Uplink Port. And since
they are connected to two ends of the same (imaginary) cable, they will
have the same set of messages. This leads me to believe that I should
pass all traffic on tap0. Again, this is based on my uneducated guess
and searching, so I could be wrong.

Passing all traffic on tap0 still does not lead to the ping reply.
However, doing a tcpdump on em0 shows an echo request and echo reply
whiile tcpdump on tap0 only shows an echo reply. This is irrespective of
addlocal vether0. Also, this is irrespective of the pf configuration.
Now, why does the echo request not show up on tap0 and what is exactly
stopping the echo reply to reach the ping command - I cannot determine.
I have done the usual block log, tcpdump -netti pflog0 routine. There
is infrequent igmp2 output, but nothing related to icmp. In fact, I
have also used a one line "pass" file for pf configuration, still no
ping reply.

Regards,
ab
[1] - 
http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/if_switch.c?rev=1.23&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
[2] - 
http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/bridgestp.c?rev=1.65&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
[3] - www.innervoice.in/blogs/2013/12/08/tap-interfaces-linux-bridge/
[4] - 
https://i2.wp.com/www.innervoice.in/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/VirtualNetwotk.png
-|-|-|-|-|-|-|--



Re: print usb printer by [ Google Cloud Print for Chromium ]

2018-05-15 Thread Jordan Geoghegan


On 05/15/18 13:04, Tuyosi T wrote:

i think it is impossible to print USB only printers .



I have successfully printed to several USB based printers in my time 
with OpenBSD, ranging from USB thermal receipt printers, USB restaurant 
dot matrix kitchen printers all the way up to your modern day consumer 
throw away HP printer.


I also have had great success utilizing DB9/DB25 serial line printers 
with OpenBSD.


With a bit of playing around with lpd(8) and your printcap(5) file, you 
can do some neat things and avoid having to remove the ulpt(4) driver 
from the kernel while still making the printer fully usable and 
available to CUPS and over the network.





Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Solene,

Solene Rapenne wrote on Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:26:10AM +0200:
> x...@dr.com writes:

>> The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and
>> usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages:

> See no offence here, I wonder what is the context leading to read man
> pages on a phone?

I can see some reasons for that:

 * Kernel freeze on your desktop computer, trying to figure out
   how to get into ddb (or whatever else to do).

 * Sitting next to your boyfriend on the train, who is using his
   laptop on his lap.  The poor guy is obviously struggling and
   apparently doesn't quite know what he is doing.  You quickly
   look it up on your phone to help him out and set him back on
   track.

 * Trying to do sh(1) scripting on your Android phone, which
   fails to have the required manual pages installed, and the
   OpenBSD manuals are easier to read and more precise than the
   Linux ones.

 * Remote support.  Your client calls you on your cell phone
   while you are travelling and starts asking questions that
   require a quick look into the manual for precise answers.

 * ...

 :-)

Salut,
  Ingo



Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread Base Pr1me
Also great for when you need reading material in the restroom.

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Marc Espie  wrote:

> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:26:10AM +0200, Solene Rapenne wrote:
> >
> > x...@dr.com writes:
> >
> > > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and
> > > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages:
> >
> > See no offence here, I wonder what is the context leading to read man
> > pages on a phone?
>
> Happened just monday, got students checking some stuff about some system
> functions and showing the documentation to me on their phone during recess.
>
> In that specific case, it was more practical for them than lugging the
> laptop
> outside.
>
>


Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:26:10AM +0200, Solene Rapenne wrote:
> 
> x...@dr.com writes:
> 
> > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and
> > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages:
> 
> See no offence here, I wonder what is the context leading to read man
> pages on a phone?

Happened just monday, got students checking some stuff about some system
functions and showing the documentation to me on their phone during recess.

In that specific case, it was more practical for them than lugging the laptop
outside.



Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread Solene Rapenne

x...@dr.com writes:

> The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and
> usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages:

See no offence here, I wonder what is the context leading to read man
pages on a phone?



Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread xcv
"Ingo Schwarze"  wrote:

> But you fail to state what the actual problem is that you are
> trying to solve.

The pages at http://man.openbsd.org/ don't use the screen real
estate of my phone in a sensible way. All pages are "zoomed out"
by default, causing a frustrating user experience for me, when I
read OpenBSD man pages on the phone.

Please look at the screenshots. Here they are side-by-side:

https://viewports.github.io/man/sidebyside.html

The pictures to the left show the problem I'm trying to solve.
The pictures to the right show the solution I want.

>  You also fail to state whether you have any
> idea what the root cause of the unstated problem might be.
>
> For example, is it somehow related to the CSS rule
> 
>   html { max-width: 100ex; } ?
> 
> I'm not saying it is, i'm merely asking because i have no idea
> what your problem is.

I don't know the cause of the problem. I'll see if I can find it.



Re: 6.3 just died (not for the first time)

2018-05-15 Thread Peter van Oord van der Vlies
I have seen the same error here on a host around 2 days after the upgrade to 
6.3 inclusing patches.

The keyboard wasnt working for me but the panic was the same.



Op 15 mei 2018 om 23:30 heeft Harald Dunkel 
mailto:harald.dun...@aixigo.de>> het volgende 
geschreven:

Hi folks,

6.3 just died. Last words:

login: kernel: protection fault trap, code=0
Stopped at  export_sa+0x5c: movl0(%rcx),%ecx
ddb{0}> show panic
the kernel did not panic
ddb{0}> trace
export_sa(10,800033445e70) at export_sa+0x5c
pfkeyv2_expire(813d4c00,813d4c00) at pfkeyv2_expire+0x14e
tdb_timeout(800033446020) at tdb_timeout+0x39
softclock_thread(0) at softclock_thread+0xc6
end trace frame: 0x0, count: -4
ddb{0}> show registers
rdi   0x800033445e98
rsi   0x813d4c00
rbp   0x800033445e70
rbx   0x800033445e98
rdx   0x81abdff0cpu_info_full_primary+0x1ff0
rcx   0xdeadbeefdeadbeef
rax   0x81387510
r8 0x120
r90x81aa58d8netlock
r10   0x
r11   0x800033445ea0
r12   0x81387500
r13  0x3
r14   0x813d4c00
r15 0x90
rip   0x8121fefcexport_sa+0x5c
cs   0x8
rflags   0x10282__ALIGN_SIZE+0xf282
rsp   0x800033445e70
ss  0x10
export_sa+0x5c: movl0(%rcx),%ecx
ddb{0}> ps
  PID TID   PPIDUID  S   FLAGS  WAIT  COMMAND
74371   82200  1  0  30x82  ttyopngetty
64133  371566  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
73177  400616  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
 2198  160363  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
66943   62449  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
77195  409193  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
30152   89639  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
54326   20290  1  0  30x100098  poll  cron
813086330  1  0  30x80  kqreadapmd
21604  251912  61088 74  30x100092  bpf   pflogd
61088  386173  1  0  30x80  netio pflogd
38994  395332  22137623  30x90  nanosleep zabbix_agentd
92334  256603  22137623  30x90  selectzabbix_agentd
 5776  303931  22137623  30x90  netconzabbix_agentd
71818  109922  22137623  30x90  selectzabbix_agentd
28432  430198  22137623  30x90  nanosleep zabbix_agentd
55014  131036  54187 74  30x100092  bpf   pflogd
54187  404660  1  0  30x80  netio pflogd
32954  132161  74424 74  30x100092  bpf   pflogd
74424   72323  1  0  30x80  netio pflogd
22137  193504  1623  30x90  wait  zabbix_agentd
230166037  1  0  30x80  poll  openvpn
27849  148250  1  0  30x80  poll  openvpn
78572  192037  1  0  30x80  poll  openvpn
83974  209100  1  0  30x80  poll  openvpn
 1297  379204  1 99  30x100090  poll  sndiod
72635   52767  1110  30x100090  poll  sndiod
59204  423537  1 62  30x100090  bpf   spamlogd
51694  290283  46867 62  30x100090  piperdspamd
76899  369277  46867 62  30x100090  poll  spamd
46867   52758  1 62  30x100090  nanosleep spamd
51631   64028  1109  30x90  kqreadftp-proxy
74489  238300  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
69227  383337  13002103  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
95912  255952  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
52092  398675  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
15268  264170  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
23823   51587  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
13002  289905  1  0  30x100080  kqreadsmtpd
39875  399764  1  0  30x80  selectsshd
84492   73143  16575 68  70x90sasyncd
16575  267935  1  0  30x80  selectsasyncd
 5600  244082  24905 68  70x10isakmpd
24905  484997  1  0  30x80  netio isakmpd
15412  155977  1  0  30x100080  poll  ntpd
71665   62722  35888 83  30x100092  poll  ntpd
35888  382324  1 83  30x100092  poll  ntpd
79699  454922  42559 74  30x100092  bpf   pflogd
42559  472293  1  0  30x80  netio pflogd
90864  469513  67456 73  30x100090  kqreadsyslogd
67456  146341  1  0  30x100082  

6.3 just died (not for the first time)

2018-05-15 Thread Harald Dunkel

Hi folks,

6.3 just died. Last words:

login: kernel: protection fault trap, code=0
Stopped at  export_sa+0x5c: movl0(%rcx),%ecx
ddb{0}> show panic
the kernel did not panic
ddb{0}> trace
export_sa(10,800033445e70) at export_sa+0x5c
pfkeyv2_expire(813d4c00,813d4c00) at pfkeyv2_expire+0x14e
tdb_timeout(800033446020) at tdb_timeout+0x39
softclock_thread(0) at softclock_thread+0xc6
end trace frame: 0x0, count: -4
ddb{0}> show registers
rdi   0x800033445e98
rsi   0x813d4c00
rbp   0x800033445e70
rbx   0x800033445e98
rdx   0x81abdff0cpu_info_full_primary+0x1ff0
rcx   0xdeadbeefdeadbeef
rax   0x81387510
r8 0x120
r90x81aa58d8netlock
r10   0x
r11   0x800033445ea0
r12   0x81387500
r13  0x3
r14   0x813d4c00
r15 0x90
rip   0x8121fefcexport_sa+0x5c
cs   0x8
rflags   0x10282__ALIGN_SIZE+0xf282
rsp   0x800033445e70
ss  0x10
export_sa+0x5c: movl0(%rcx),%ecx
ddb{0}> ps
   PID TID   PPIDUID  S   FLAGS  WAIT  COMMAND
 74371   82200  1  0  30x82  ttyopngetty
 64133  371566  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
 73177  400616  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
  2198  160363  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
 66943   62449  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
 77195  409193  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
 30152   89639  1  0  30x100083  ttyin getty
 54326   20290  1  0  30x100098  poll  cron
 813086330  1  0  30x80  kqreadapmd
 21604  251912  61088 74  30x100092  bpf   pflogd
 61088  386173  1  0  30x80  netio pflogd
 38994  395332  22137623  30x90  nanosleep zabbix_agentd
 92334  256603  22137623  30x90  selectzabbix_agentd
  5776  303931  22137623  30x90  netconzabbix_agentd
 71818  109922  22137623  30x90  selectzabbix_agentd
 28432  430198  22137623  30x90  nanosleep zabbix_agentd
 55014  131036  54187 74  30x100092  bpf   pflogd
 54187  404660  1  0  30x80  netio pflogd
 32954  132161  74424 74  30x100092  bpf   pflogd
 74424   72323  1  0  30x80  netio pflogd
 22137  193504  1623  30x90  wait  zabbix_agentd
 230166037  1  0  30x80  poll  openvpn
 27849  148250  1  0  30x80  poll  openvpn
 78572  192037  1  0  30x80  poll  openvpn
 83974  209100  1  0  30x80  poll  openvpn
  1297  379204  1 99  30x100090  poll  sndiod
 72635   52767  1110  30x100090  poll  sndiod
 59204  423537  1 62  30x100090  bpf   spamlogd
 51694  290283  46867 62  30x100090  piperdspamd
 76899  369277  46867 62  30x100090  poll  spamd
 46867   52758  1 62  30x100090  nanosleep spamd
 51631   64028  1109  30x90  kqreadftp-proxy
 74489  238300  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
 69227  383337  13002103  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
 95912  255952  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
 52092  398675  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
 15268  264170  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
 23823   51587  13002 95  30x100092  kqreadsmtpd
 13002  289905  1  0  30x100080  kqreadsmtpd
 39875  399764  1  0  30x80  selectsshd
 84492   73143  16575 68  70x90sasyncd
 16575  267935  1  0  30x80  selectsasyncd
  5600  244082  24905 68  70x10isakmpd
 24905  484997  1  0  30x80  netio isakmpd
 15412  155977  1  0  30x100080  poll  ntpd
 71665   62722  35888 83  30x100092  poll  ntpd
 35888  382324  1 83  30x100092  poll  ntpd
 79699  454922  42559 74  30x100092  bpf   pflogd
 42559  472293  1  0  30x80  netio pflogd
 90864  469513  67456 73  30x100090  kqreadsyslogd
 67456  146341  1  0  30x100082  netio syslogd
 54377  194590  79772115  30x100092  kqreadslaacd
 81742  432607  79772115  30x100092  kqreadslaacd
 79772  398085  1  0  30x80  kqreadslaacd

Re: Buying new laptop, looking for feedback

2018-05-15 Thread Patrick Marchand

I've been using a 3rd gen x1 carbon for half a year now and havent had any 
problems

OpenBSD 6.3-current (GENERIC.MP) #33: Mon May  7 18:59:05 MDT 2018
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 8261529600 (7878MB)
avail mem = 8003121152 (7632MB)
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xccbfd000 (65 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version "N14ET42W (1.20 )" date 09/13/2017
bios0: LENOVO 20BTS0Y500
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SLIC ASF! HPET ECDT APIC MCFG SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT 
SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT PCCT SSDT UEFI MSDM BATB FPDT UEFI DMAR
acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S4) SLPB(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP2(S4) XHCI(S3) EHC1(S3)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5600U CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2494.61 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.2.4.1.1.1, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5600U CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2494.23 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu1: smt 1, core 0, package 0
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5600U CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2494.23 MHz
cpu2: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu2: smt 0, core 1, package 0
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5600U CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2494.23 MHz
cpu3: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu3: smt 1, core 1, package 0
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 40 pins
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf800, bus 0-63
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP2)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP3)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 10 (EXP6)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3(200@233 mwait.1@0x40), C2(200@148 mwait.1@0x33), 
C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3(200@233 mwait.1@0x40), C2(200@148 mwait.1@0x33), 
C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
acpicpu2 at acpi0: C3(200@233 mwait.1@0x40), C2(200@148 mwait.1@0x33), 
C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
acpicpu3 at acpi0: C3(200@233 mwait.1@0x40), C2(200@148 mwait.1@0x33), 
C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS, resource for XHCI, EHC1
acpipwrres1 at acpi0: NVP3, resource for PEG_
acpipwrres2 at acpi0: NVP2, resource for PEG_
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 128 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpicmos0 at acpi0
"LEN0071" at acpi0 not configured
"LEN0048" at acpi0 not configured
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "00HW003" serial   716 type LiP oem "SMP"
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0
"PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
"PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
"PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
"INT340F" at acpi0 not configured
acpivideo0 at acpi0: VID_
acpivout at acpivideo0 not configured
acpivideo1 at acpi0: VID_
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2494 MHz: speeds: 2601, 2600, 2500, 2300, 2100, 2000, 
1800, 1700, 1500, 1400, 1200, 1100, 900,

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread Mike Burns
On 2018-05-15 22.51.43 +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> x...@dr.com wrote on Tue, May 15, 2018 at 07:47:45PM +0200:
> > [meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0"]
> 
> It is not defined in any standard.

I have no objection to the rest of your email -- in fact, I agree that
"viewport" should not matter and that the Web page should not need to
change -- but I do want to clarify whether this is in a standard:

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/document-metadata.html#other-meta

"""
Extensions to the predefined set of metadata names may be registered
in the WHATWG Wiki MetaExtensions page[1].
[ ... ]
Conformance checkers may use the information given on the WHATWG Wiki
MetaExtensions page to establish if a value is allowed or not: values
defined in this specification or marked as "proposed" or "ratified"
must be accepted
"""

[1] https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MetaExtensions

Shows "viewport" with the "Proposal" status, with a link to:

https://drafts.csswg.org/css-device-adapt/#viewport-meta



Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi,

x...@dr.com wrote on Tue, May 15, 2018 at 07:47:45PM +0200:

> The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and 
> usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages:
> 
> [meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0"]

There is no way i will use that.

It is not defined in any standard.

And i'm quite selective even with features defined in standards
because HTML and CSS standards are very badly proliferating.
In general, i stick to HTML 5.2 and CSS 2.1.

> My test results:
> - Microsoft Edge on Windows 10 Mobile (phone): significant improvement

I'm absolutely uninterested in test results.

I stick to (reasonably established) standards, and it's the job
of browsers to implement them.  If a browser failes to implement
a standard that has been in force for a long time, that's a bug
in the browser and not my problem.


But you fail to state what the actual problem is that you are
trying to solve.  You also fail to state whether you have any
idea what the root cause of the unstated problem might be.
For example, is it somehow related to the CSS rule

  html { max-width: 100ex; } ?

I'm not saying it is, i'm merely asking because i have no idea
what your problem is.

Yours,
  Ingo



Re: OpenBSD 6.3 AMD63 ond Dell Vostro 5470 System BIOS problems

2018-05-15 Thread IL Ka
Are you using BIOS/MBR or UEFI/GPT?
It latter case, try BIOS/MBR.


OpenBSD 6.3 AMD63 ond Dell Vostro 5470 System BIOS problems

2018-05-15 Thread firebits
I have a Dell Vostro 5470 and I'm having problems with the BIOS after
installing OpenBSD 6.3 AMD63. Simply after post install and reboot, the Dell
logo disappears, there is no option to enter the BIOS with F2 or boot by
F12. Then I have new access to the laptop installing again by livependrive
with linux, FreeBSD or the openbsd itself. Install linux, windows and
FreeBSD / NetBSD work normally, but the OpenBSD 6.3 AMD64 I do not want. All
this, after post install and reboot. Has anyone solved this in any way? I
called Dell and they do not know how to solve it.



--
Sent from: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/openbsd-user-misc-f3.html



Re: print usb printer by [ Google Cloud Print for Chromium ]

2018-05-15 Thread Tuyosi T
hi all .

i at last find i can  print if i use the printer which has both cups driver
and wifi interface (for example EP-709A).
so
i do not need to use [ Google Cloud Print for Chromium ] .

and
i think it is impossible to print USB only printers .

at this sate openbsd become everyday OS .
---
regards


Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread lists
Tue, 15 May 2018 20:46:44 +0200 x...@dr.com
> > Tue, 15 May 2018 19:47:45 +0200 x...@dr.com  
> > > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and 
> > > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages:  
> > 
> > Hi anonymous,
> > 
> > Could you please add it on some public space so I can check in Dillo too?
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > Anton Lazarov  
> 
> Hi Anton,
> 
> I actually did both. I forgot to mention it but I did test with Dillo, 
> and it's OK AFAICT.
> 
> The test content is available here:
> 
> https://viewports.github.io/
> https://github.com/viewports/viewports.github.io
> 
> If the first link works you should see a table with rows like this:
> 
> afterboot-original | afterboot-viewport | afterboot-original-png | 
> afterboot-viewport-png
> 
> The table links to html and screenshots. Are you able to access it? 
> 

Hi anonymous,

I replied before reading the rest of the message.  No visible changes, it
looks the same in Dillo I sometimes use to read a manual page on the web.

Kind regards,
Anton Lazarov



Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread xcv
> Tue, 15 May 2018 19:47:45 +0200 x...@dr.com
> > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and 
> > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages:
> 
> Hi anonymous,
> 
> Could you please add it on some public space so I can check in Dillo too?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Anton Lazarov

Hi Anton,

I actually did both. I forgot to mention it but I did test with Dillo, 
and it's OK AFAICT.

The test content is available here:

https://viewports.github.io/
https://github.com/viewports/viewports.github.io

If the first link works you should see a table with rows like this:

afterboot-original | afterboot-viewport | afterboot-original-png | 
afterboot-viewport-png

The table links to html and screenshots. Are you able to access it? 



Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread lists
Tue, 15 May 2018 19:47:45 +0200 x...@dr.com
> The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and 
> usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages:

Hi anonymous,

Could you please add it on some public space so I can check in Dillo too?

Kind regards,
Anton Lazarov

> [meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0"]
> 
> It was suggested to me by a Microsoft Edge engineer as a fix for 
> mobile-unfriendly web sites. It was apparently invented by Apple 
> however, and is also recommended by Mozilla. 
> 
> Mozilla and Safari docs:
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Mobile/Viewport_meta_tag
> https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariWebContent/UsingtheViewport/UsingtheViewport.html
> 
> My test results:
> - Microsoft Edge on Windows 10 Mobile (phone): significant improvement
> 
> - Chrome on OpenBSD-current: unaffected
> - Firefox on OpenBSD-current: unaffected
> - Lynx on OpenBSD-current: unaffected
> - Microsoft Edge on Windows 10: unaffected
> - Internet Explorer on Windows 10: unaffected
> 
> My test site (with before/after html and screenshots):
> https://viewports.github.io/
> 
> I hope and suspect that this will improve things for other small 
> screen devices too -- such as Android and iOS phones -- but I am 
> unable to test that.
> 



Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread xcv
The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and 
usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages:

[meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0"]

It was suggested to me by a Microsoft Edge engineer as a fix for 
mobile-unfriendly web sites. It was apparently invented by Apple 
however, and is also recommended by Mozilla. 

Mozilla and Safari docs:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Mobile/Viewport_meta_tag
https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariWebContent/UsingtheViewport/UsingtheViewport.html

My test results:
- Microsoft Edge on Windows 10 Mobile (phone): significant improvement

- Chrome on OpenBSD-current: unaffected
- Firefox on OpenBSD-current: unaffected
- Lynx on OpenBSD-current: unaffected
- Microsoft Edge on Windows 10: unaffected
- Internet Explorer on Windows 10: unaffected

My test site (with before/after html and screenshots):
https://viewports.github.io/

I hope and suspect that this will improve things for other small 
screen devices too -- such as Android and iOS phones -- but I am 
unable to test that.



Re: Buying new laptop, looking for feedback

2018-05-15 Thread Thomas Frohwein
Hi,

The specs on my Dell Latitude E5570 should similar to what you're looking at
with the T470s. I'm very happy with running OpenBSD on it. The only limitations
that I've noticed are:

- I can't adjust screen brightness in OpenBSD.
- The dedicated AMD R7 M370 doesn't work, but things run fine with the
  integrated Intel HD 530
- BIOS/firmware settings for HDD/SSD need to be switched from RAID to AHCI.
- Very rarely, no input is registered from the keyboard or touchpad. Seems to
  be a BIOS bug because I've also observed it once after booting into Windows
  10.

Otherwise this one may be worth considering esp. if you could get it for a
better price than the T470s.

OpenBSD 6.3-current (GENERIC.MP) #36: Wed May  9 09:34:27 MDT 2018
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 17008320512 (16220MB)
avail mem = 16484810752 (15721MB)
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 3.0 @ 0xea900 (105 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version "1.18.6" date 12/08/2017
bios0: Dell Inc. Latitude E5570
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT MCFG HPET SSDT WSMT LPIT SSDT SSDT SSDT DBGP 
DBG2 SSDT UEFI SSDT SSDT MSDM SLIC SSDT DMAR TPM2 SSDT ASF! WPBT
acpi0: wakeup devices PEGP(S4) PEG0(S4) PEGP(S4) PEG1(S4) PEGP(S4) PEG2(S4) 
PXSX(S4) RP09(S4) PXSX(S4) RP10(S4) PXSX(S4) RP11(S4) PXSX(S4) RP12(S4) 
PXSX(S4) RP13(S4) [...]
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz, 2295.40 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 24MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.2.4.1.1.1, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz, 2294.66 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz, 2294.66 MHz
cpu2: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz, 2294.66 MHz
cpu3: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0
cpu4 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu4: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz, 2294.66 MHz
cpu4: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu4: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu4: smt 1, core 0, package 0
cpu5 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu5: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz, 2294.66 MHz
cpu5: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,M

Re: Buying new laptop, looking for feedback

2018-05-15 Thread Base Pr1me

OpenBSD is brilliant on the T470s. No issues here.

OpenBSD 6.3-current (GENERIC.MP) #0: Mon May 14 14:29:23 MDT 2018
basepr...@stef.traceyemery.net:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 25491316736 (24310MB)
avail mem = 24710721536 (23565MB)
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 3.0 @ 0x6f096000 (62 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version "N1WET42W (1.21 )" date 12/14/2017
bios0: LENOVO 20HFCTO1WW
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT TPM2 UEFI SSDT SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ECDT SSDT BOOT 
BATB SSDT SSDT SSDT WSMT SSDT SSDT DBGP DBG2 MSDM DMAR ASF! FPDT UEFI
acpi0: wakeup devices GLAN(S4) XHC_(S3) XDCI(S4) HDAS(S4) RP01(S4) RP02(S4) 
RP04(S4) RP05(S4) RP06(S4) RP07(S4) RP08(S4) RP09(S4) RP10(S4) RP11(S4) RP12(S4) 
RP13(S4) [...]

acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 2399 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7600U CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2694.92 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN

cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 23MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.2.4.1.1.1, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7600U CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2693.72 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN

cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7600U CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2693.72 MHz
cpu2: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN

cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu2: smt 1, core 0, package 0
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7600U CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2693.72 MHz
cpu3: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN

cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu3: smt 1, core 1, package 0
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 120 pins
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf800, bus 0-63
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (RP01)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP02)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 58 (RP03)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP04)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP05)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP06)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP07)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP08)
acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus 60 (RP09)
acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP10)
acpiprt11 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP11)
acpiprt12 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP12)
acpiprt13 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP13)
acpiprt14 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP14)
acpiprt15 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP15)
acpiprt16 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP16)
acpiprt17 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP17)
acpiprt18 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP18)
acpiprt19 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP19)
acpiprt20 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP20)
acpiprt21 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP21)
acpiprt22 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP22)
acpiprt23 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP23)
acpiprt24 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP24)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3(200@1034 mwait.1@0x60), C2(200@151 mwait.1@0x33), 
C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3(200@1034 mwait.1@0x60), C2(200@151 mwait.1@0x33), 
C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
acpicpu2 at acpi0: C3(200@1034 mwait.1@0x60), C2(200@151 mwait.1@0x33), 
C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
acpicpu3 at acpi0: C3(200@1034 mwait.1@0x60), C2(200@151 mwait.1@0x33), 
C1(1000@1 mwait.1), P

Buying new laptop, looking for feedback

2018-05-15 Thread Solene Rapenne
Hello,

I need a new laptop for work, OpenBSD compatible. The lenovo T470s seems
interesting (i7, SSD 512GB, 14", 1920x1080) for a price < 1500 euros.

Could someone confirm me that it works out of the box? If you know a
recent model (that I can still buy online) with similar specs, feedback
is welcome too.

thx



Re: Cannot access internet with virtual switch

2018-05-15 Thread Ayaka Koshibe
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Aham Brahmasmi  wrote:
> Thank you Koshibe-san for your reply.
>
>> I've actually held back on that diff since it's a bit insufficient by itself.
>
> Ok.
>
>> Actually, you said that you had just em0 on that switch. Can you try
>> adding a local port (addlocal instead of add) alongside em0? It will
>> be a vether(4) interface that needs to be given em0's current address,
>> in its place.
>
> Should I be doing the following? And if yes, what address should em0
> have?
>
> $ cat /etc/hostname.vether0
> inet 1.2.3.4 255.255.255.0
> $ cat /etc/hostname.em0
> inet ?.?.?.? 255.255.255.0
> $ doas ifconfig switch0 create
> $ doas ifconfig switch0 add em0
> $ doas ifconfig switch0 addlocal vether0
> $ doas ifconfig switch0 up
>
> Here, 1.2.3.4 is the external public IP address of the machine
> originally assigned to em0.

em0 shouldn't have an address, and you'll also want to explicitly
enable vether0. Otherwise that looks fine.

>> > There is a continuous stream of messages when running "switchd -dvv":
>> > ...
>>
>> I can't say what they are without the full output, but you will tend
>> to see broadcasts (periodic or otherwise) like your second example
>> even on your bridge. From a second look at your earlier logs, it seems
>> the 1->1 'loops' are generated by the switch seeing VLAN traffic in
>> other parts of the network.
>
> Ok. Would sharing the full output of "switchd -dvv" help?

I wouldn't worry much about it, unless adding the local port doesn't
work for you.

> Interestingly, while searching for addlocal, I encountered a
> presentation on switch [1]. On page 13 of that pdf, there is mention of
> the switch sharing the STP code with bridge. Would it be correct to
> assume that there would be no loops if there was STP in the switch?

Even with a bridge, you'd need to enable STP and set priority values
on the ports for it to work, so you're correct - if there were any
loops, the bridge probably wouldn't have worked either. But you've
also seen that, for switch(4), the STP-related options aren't
available in ifconfig, and as far as I can tell switchd doesn't do
topology/loop detection (and probably won't want to rely on (R)STP to
do so). So, the code might be shared, but is likely not used.


> Regards,
> ab
> [1] - https://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan2016-switchd.pdf
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