Re: MPLS status questions.

2009-05-24 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

On 2009-04-29 21:48, Michele Marchetto wrote:

Il giorno mar, 28/04/2009 alle 20.18 -0400, Daniel Ouellet ha scritto:

So, I am not sure where this is and I am curious as to what stage it
might be?


We are moving things forward.
The current stack have really basic functionalities but it is working.
I use it. Now it support just static labeling through route(8) but
i am developing ldpd out of the tree, and i hope to import it very soon.
It is in some advanced state.


Is there any place to read on about it? Any draft howtos, man pages,
etc?

Is it in latest development build or already in 4.5?

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Re: MPLS status questions.

2009-05-24 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

On 2009-05-02 18:37, Chris Cappuccio wrote:


What's really frustrating here are the network admins I work with that
are trying to migrate from ipsec vpns to MPLS because it's easier
and just as secure.

Typical networking idiots.


Maybe yes.

 Some telcos sell an MPLS IP VPN service which is comparable in
 implementation to frame relay, but switched by MPLS switches/routers
 instead of frame relay switches.  There is no encryption.

Why you are suprised? Maybe you didn't have any time to read about
what MPLS VPN is and what it isn't? Even wikipedia has something
to tell you about it, not mentioning any book on the subject.


It is not a VPN in any sense that you use over the internet or any

 public network (such as a commercial telco)

Where in 'VPN' do you see some kind of encryption? Intranets were
build on FR clouds, ATM clouds, now on IP clouds. If your understanding
of VPN means IPsec then maybe it's time to get back to some serious
learning about the real world out there.

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Re: MPLS On OpenBGP

2008-08-06 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'll be looking for that day wherein those Cisco guys can boost no more
that they are the only ones in the planet that has the MPLS skills. Whew,
maybe somebody knows where to start on how to add this MPLS feature so as
to answer the question like where do I begin?


You're top-posting.

For the MPLS, you have basically two parts - data plane, which is
encapsulation of the frames or cells, and the control plane, which
is exchanging VPNv4/VPNv6 information between multiprotocol speaking
BGP routers (usually - PEs/LERs in MPLS nomenclature).

Quick look at google shows a lot of places where existing MPLS code
can be found[1]. But as usual - maybe it's not the best of breed, or
even not complete.

The MPLS as itself is not Cisco domain, but it was invented by Cisco
as tag switching[2] back in the days where nobody believed it will be
needed. It was back in 1997.

So, as Claudio said - go for it, if You think you can do better.

[1]. http://www.mplsrc.com/vendor.shtml being one of them, with
 old ayame project as well for NetBSD

[2]. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2105

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