Re: OpenVPN client on OpenBSD
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Emile Sanders emile.b.sand...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone ever gotten OpenVPN to run as a client successfully with a VPN subscription? Yes. Does anyone know how to successfully run OpenVPN on OpenBSD as a client with a VPN subscription? Or run into similar problems? Here is my config: $ cat openvpn.conf client dev tun0 proto udp remote $HOSTNAME 1194 resolv-retry infinite nobind persist-key persist-tun ca $CERT_PATH/ca.crt cert $CERT_PATH/anonymous.crt key $CERT_PATH/anonymous.key ns-cert-type server comp-lzo verb 3 Replace $HOSTNAME and $CERT_PATH with your own values. Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: Today! OpenBSD 4.8 release party Amsterdam
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:30 AM, chefren chef...@pi.net wrote: The plan is the same as usual: 18:00 gathering in front of De Deugniet, we will find some food in the neighborhood that has lots of places where we can eat. From 20:00 on we will gather into De Deugniet itself and have a drink on OpenBSD 4.8! I'll be there! Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
4.8 Release party Amterdam
OpenBSD 4.8 is really close and it's time for another release party. My proposal: Thursday November 4th 18:00 meet in front of cafC) de Deugniet to get something to eet. 20:00 back at de Deugniet and have some drinks CafC) de Deugniet is located within 5 minutes walking from the Amsterdam Central station. I hope to see you there! Floor
Re: Hardening halt process
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Armando a...@lamortenera.it wrote: The question I'd like to ask is simple: is it possible to issue the halt command using an unprivileged user? Configure sudo to allow the halt command without password. $ sudo halt -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: OT: Re: code for fun
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Aaron Lewis aaron.lewis1...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean by precision? Kinda of significance digit. For example: B A number `12.340' , and if say it has 2 digits' precision , then we consider the `0' is not accurate , while `.34' is accurate. What?! So for a number stored in a double type , how accurate can it be ? (or maybe how many bits in the fixed-point part is accurate) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_precision_floating-point_format Doesn't matter if it's unsigned or signed , some ideas are cool enough. I'd like to see your unsigned double! Still , use a small part of code , c or c++ , i'm just curious how to make it happen. What problem (i.e. homework assignment) are you trying to solve? -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: OT: Re: code for fun
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Aaron Lewis aaron.lewis1...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/2010 08:04 PM, Floor Terra wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Aaron Lewis aaron.lewis1...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean by precision? Kinda of significance digit. For example: B A number `12.340' , and if say it has 2 digits' precision , then we consider the `0' is not accurate , while `.34' is accurate. What?! See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetic_precision Yes. 12.340 has five significant digits. If you want to store it with just two significant digits you get 12. Come on , just for fun , someone asks me if i could print out the maximum number that can be stored in a double type , and the *precision* of a double type. The maximum number you can store in a IEEE double is +infinity of course. A 64 bit double has 52-bit mantissa, together with 1 sign bit it gives you almost 16 decimal significant digits. But like other things in life: It's not the size that maters, it's how you use it. (see math(3) and look for ULP) And the second , well i tried to divide 2 by 3 , see when i reaches 7 ( should be 0.667 ) , may not a clever way. Be careful converting your number to decimal if you want to keep maximum precision. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: OpenBSD users.
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Mateusz Gierblinski mateusz.gierblin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi misc@ I'm just wondering. Where are you OpenBSD users from? For the developers just pkg_add openbsd-developers. There is no equivalent openbsd-users package. Are you creating one? Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: PTY allocation error
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Peter Bako pe...@bakonet.org wrote: Basically once I boot of my new image, I am able to log into it on the serial console and things look ok. B I can also ping the IP address of the unit, but when I try to SSH into it I get the following message: B Server refused to allocate pty I've checked over my setup and all seems fine as per the instructions. B I have all the pty* devices from /dev (which is RO) linked to /var/run/dev (which is in memory), so the problem cannot be that these devices are not writeable. B (Actually /var is linked to /tmp/var, where the /tmp directory is in memory and populated by the image from a directory called /template.) Can you create new entries in /dev? See pty(4) for more info. But my advise would be: Just do a normal install to a 1GB+ CF card. Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: Ordering CDs in Europe becoming increasingly difficult
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:22 AM, ropers rop...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 May 2010 11:01, Lyn Done wrote: Sorry that you have concerns about buying from us. We have moved to a new, more secure ecommerce system which is compliant under PCI-DSS, so that you need have no concerns about the security of entering your personal or card details. We were unable to transfer across the information from the old system, so that yes, you can use your previous details on the new site or different details - you can change this information at any time in the future. Once you enter any information on the login page, then it forces an https call, so the site is totally secure with your details. I admit that I'm a bit ignorant here, as I've myself never administered an SSL web site, but I am not convinced by this: Doesn't the above just mean that it switches to HTTPS *after* transmitting my information in the clear? Or can someone else explain if and/or how the above is sane? From a quick glance at the website: You get an empty form delivered over plain http. The form submits to an https page. This means the content of the form is only transmitted over https. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: Silent boot?
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Ilya Ilembitov ilembi...@gmail.com wrote: Also, what can be done for redirecting the dmesg output to a local file? See /var/run/dmesg.boot Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: Which netbook for OpenBSD
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:41 AM, b...@brodewicz.pl wrote: Hi. I'm planning to buy a netbook and I wonder which one is the best choice for running OpenBSD? My advise would be: Pick a netbook you like and test OpenBSD on it. Just bring a usb stick with OpenBSD on it with you to the store and boot from it there. Any sugestion? I have an Asus Eee PC 1000H that works fine with OpenBSD. Floor Thanks -- Rafal Brodewicz -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: ucom(4)
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Gregory Edigarov g...@bestnet.kharkov.ua wrote: Hello, however, when I try to connect to any device via the cable, and then access to it using cu -l /dev/cuaU0, it behaves strangely: I could see the device receiving B what I type, but I cannot see any response from the device. Does cu -l /dev/ttyU0 work? Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: Mails from Self to List
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:10 PM, dontek don...@gmail.com wrote: Is it normal not to see mails from self on the list? It is if you use Gmail. It filters out the duplicate mails. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Reminder: OpenBSD release party Amsterdam
This is a reminder for next Thursday! May 19 OpenBSD 4.7 will be released, may 20 there will be a release party in Amsterdam. The plan is the same as usual: 18:00 gathering in front of De Deugniet, we will find some food in the neighborhood that has lots of places where we can eat. From 20:00 on we will gather into De Deugniet itself and have a drink on OpenBSD 4.7! Cafe de Deugniet Oude Brugsteeg 12, 1012 JP Amsterdam http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=17848916042821192795 -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
OpenBSD release party Amsterdam
May 19 OpenBSD 4.7 will be released, may 20 there will be a release party in Amsterdam. The plan is the same as usual: 18:00 gathering in front of De Deugniet, we will find some food in the neighborhood that has lots of places where we can eat. From 20:00 on we will gather into De Deugniet itself and have a drink on OpenBSD 4.7! Cafe de Deugniet Oude Brugsteeg 12, 1012 JP Amsterdam http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=De+Deugniet,+Oude brugsteeg+12,+1012+JP+Amsterdam,+Netherlandssll=52.375285,4.897585sspn=0.03 8303,0.052099ie=UTF8hq=De+Deugniet,hnear=Oudebrugsteeg+12,+1012+Amsterdam, +The+Netherlandsll=52.375691,4.897585spn=0.008803,0.013025t=hz=16 -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: Buying ThinkPad for OpenBSD
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:43 PM, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there an official guide somewhere for making a bootable OpenBSD USB drive? I have a 2GB USB drive my school gave me and I never use it. Just do a normal install to the USB drive and it should work. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: Joomla - MySQL Problem: Could not connect to MySQL
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Jan malepa...@googlemail.com wrote: Any ideas? Are you trying to connect to the MySQL socket outside of the httpd chroot? Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: PF log parser and dynamic PF rules...
Why not require a authentication token in the url? On 16 Feb 2010 10:59, Per-Olov SjC6holm pe...@incedo.org wrote: On 16 feb 2010, at 10.40, Claudio Jeker wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:22:04AM +0100, Per-Olov... How do you use authpf from a IPhone or similar... The reason is to use and RSS reader that cannot autenticate. I want some sort of security for it even though it's not critical. Therefor I want to just have trigger in the PF log. To try to find an SSH client to use authpf for all RSS client capable phones is not an option. /Per-Olov
Re: PF log parser and dynamic PF rules...
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Per-Olov SjC6holm p...@incedo.org wrote: There is no authentication available in most RSS clients. If it was, i would of course prefer or at least consider that. I am not that stupid you know. https://example.com/feed.php?user=floortpasswd=SUPERSECRET Every feed reader i know of can handle a url like this. It's probably more secure and easier to implement than port-knocking. And I wouldn't want to be the one who has to explain port-knocking to all your customers and tell them they have to do this every time their feed needs to refresh. Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: OT: Python (was Re: vi in /bin)
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote: Ugh, a programming language where you can't copy paste from xterm to xterm without fucking up the program is just way to much pain to work on. I agree that copy/paste is a big problem in Python. But in my experience copy/paste of code in any language is dangerous. If you want to re-use code, write a function. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: OT: Python (was Re: vi in /bin)
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: * Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com [2009-12-19 16:47]: But in my experience copy/paste of code in any language is dangerous. [ ] you have ever seriously used C heck, even perl. In my experience (mostly python and c), code that has been pasted has a higher bug density. This is because most of the copy/paste goes like this: 1) Write some loop 2) Need similar loop 3) copy/paste old loop 4) Modify pasted loop (but forget one tiny change) 5) New loop has bug It's worse with Python because of the indentation (tabs vs. spaces), but as a general rule I would say never copy/paste code. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: Tomorrow: Amsterdam OpenBSD 4.6 release party!
Shame I couldn't be there at 18:00. But for the rest of you who missed it all: here is the view of Amsterdam Central Station from the Deugniet. It's nice to meet people from the mailinglist once in a while! Floor http://twitpic.com/nhpcy On 28 Oct 2009 14:08, chefren chef...@pi.net wrote: Tomorrow, Thursday 29th of October: Cafe de Deugniet Oude Brugsteeg 12, 1012 JP Amsterdam http://...
Re: Adding PHP module to httpd.conf
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Chrisatst...@gmail.com wrote: How do I add PHP module in httpd.conf? See: pkg_info -M php5-core I don't see any package name mod_php. I have already added the php-core package. Thanks. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: xterm in scrotwm, won't read aliases or TERM from ./profile or other file
Hi, On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Chris Bennettch...@bennettconstruction.biz wrote: I'm using xterm in scrotwm. However, each instance fails to read any aliases or environment stuff like TERM. I have set a file that echos all the needed commands which I then copy paste to get my stuff into that xterm only. This works well, but is there any way at all to automatically do this? Put this in your ~/.Xdefaults xterm.*.loginShell: true scrotwm does not work with anything except 'xterm' only and exactly in /etc/scrotwm.conf. Chris Bennett -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
ifconfig API
Hi, I'm trying to automate some parts of ifconfig and discovered py-openbsd. Py-openbsd looks great but I can't use it to scan for wireless access points. Is there any sort of ifconfig API? I don't really care about the language. Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: ifconfig API
I should have thought about using the actual ifconfig source. Thanks! Floor On Apr 10, 2009 11:25 PM, Aaron Glenn aaron.gl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any sort of ifco... ??? http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.c
Re: ifconfig API
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:45 AM, J.C. Roberts list-...@designtools.org wrote: Floor, ifconfig is a constantly moving target. For example, if you look at the 'current' web page (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html) you'll see two syntax changes in the last six months. I've noticed this a few times with 'ifconfig if chan'. The best you can do in a situation like this is use an exec/system call from your chosen language (sh, perl, python, ...), and remember to read the new man page and test your code on each new release. I was hoping to avoid parsing ifconfig output precisely because it's a moving target. Using ifconfig.c isn't the best solution either. I can't just include the file and copy/pasting portions of the code is bad for maintainability. I guess I'll start with some quick 'n dirty ifconfig parsing until I have a clear picture of what I want. -- J.C. Roberts Thanks, Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
European orders
Sorry, this was meant for misc@ -- Forwarded message -- From: Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:01 AM Subject: Re: European orders To: SW i...@praxis123.de Probably because a flamewar only makes things worse. Nobody except Theo and Wim can fix this. If you want to speculate do it privately. I know at least Wim is willing to answer questions. A public mailinglist is the last place you should be speculating about serious acusations of this magnitude. Please stop Floor On Mar 30, 2009 11:44 PM, Daniel Seuffert i...@praxis123.de wrote: Isn't there any OpenBSD guy defending Mr. Wim Vandeputte, a man having promoted OpenBSD year in and year out and having supported the project in Europe like nobody else probably? What a shame. I know Wim personally for many years, I have seen some of his work and I have the deepest respect for him and what he has done. Daniel Seuffert -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: European orders
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Ross Cameron abal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:51 PM, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: Theo has made some serious allegations and i hope he has evidence to back it up. Theo may be many things,... but a liar I have never found him to be. Please, statements like these can only create a bigger conflict. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: European orders
I'm sorry to hear this. Do you have any advice for those who allready ordered? Or should we contact the distributor? Floor On Mar 24, 2009 11:57 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: From a commit message an hour or so ago: Disable future European orders since the distributor is way too far behind in reconciling payments to the project for past sales, and years of trying to resolve it have made very little progress. Sorry guys.
Re: European orders
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: Do you have any advice for those who allready ordered? Or should we contact the distributor? Sorry, but I don't know that yet. B We'll see, I suppose. Wim called me 20 minutes ago and explained the situation to me. If you have any questions just mail him or give him a call. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: European orders
Why doesn''t Wim explain the situation here. Less work isn't it. ;) I don't know. And I don't want to get involved. I'm concerned about Theo, Wim, the project and anybody else who is involved and don't want to make this any worse by spreading unverified statements from anyone. I hope you understand. Floor =Adriaan= European shipping slave (together with Felix@) of OBSD 4.0 -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image
Now, if you run ldd on the pkg_add binary you would get: ldd: /usr/sbin/pkg_add: not an ELF executable and I am not really sure why is that. Experts comments welcome here! That's because /usr/sbin/pkg_add is not an ELF executable. $ file /usr/sbin/pkg_add /usr/sbin/pkg_add: perl script text executable You need to install Perl to be able to use the pkg_add script. -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: How to find available wifi access points?
I was confused by this a few days ago. I guess I should keep track of all cvs commits. Floor On Mar 20, 2009 10:20 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2009-03-20, Matt open...@women-at-work.org wrote: Thank you all - that worked (both 'chan' an... you should use scan, chan does something else now.
Re: sftp chroot ?
See sshd_config(5) and search for ChrootDirectory. Floor On Feb 23, 2009 6:24 PM, Jean-Francois jfsimon1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, As far as I understand, the sftp service is always running since it is the ssh daemon (maybe one can correct me if I'm wrong). Hence I need to chroot some users to specific directories. I prefer not to use vsftp at present time if this feature is available with sftp of OpenBSD. One can help me ? Thank you; JF
Re: Size of SD devices supported?
/0x2c06, using Conexant CX20561 audio0 at azalia0 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 1 int 20 (irq 11) pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 1 int 21 (irq 11) pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 iwn0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Intel WiFi Link 5300AGN rev 0x00: apic 1 int 17 (irq 11), MIMO 3T3R, MoW, address 00:21:6a:01:d0:b6 ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 1 int 23 (irq 11) pci4 at ppb3 bus 5 ppb4 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 1 int 20 (irq 11) pci5 at ppb4 bus 13 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 16 (irq 11) uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 17 (irq 11) uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 18 (irq 11) ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 19 (irq 11) usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb5 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x93 pci6 at ppb5 bus 21 cbb0 at pci6 dev 0 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0xba: apic 1 int 16 (irq 11) Ricoh 5C832 Firewire rev 0x04 at pci6 dev 0 function 1 not configured sdhc0 at pci6 dev 0 function 2 Ricoh 5C822 SD/MMC rev 0x21: apic 1 int 18 (irq 11) sdmmc0 at sdhc0 Ricoh 5C843 MMC rev 0x11 at pci6 dev 0 function 3 not configured Ricoh 5C592 Memory Stick rev 0x11 at pci6 dev 0 function 4 not configured Ricoh 5C852 xD rev 0x11 at pci6 dev 0 function 5 not configured cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 22 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801IEM LPC rev 0x03 ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801I AHCI rev 0x03: apic 1 int 16 (irq 11), AHCI 1.2 scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets, initiator 32 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, WDC WD3200BEKT-2, 11.0 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 305245MB, 512 bytes/sec, 625142448 sec total cd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: HL-DT-ST, DVDRAM GSA-U20N, HX10 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801I SMBus rev 0x03: apic 1 int 23 (irq 11) iic0 at ichiic0 usb2 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb4 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb5 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub5 at usb5 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb6 at uhci4: USB revision 1.0 uhub6 at usb6 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb7 at uhci5: USB revision 1.0 uhub7 at usb7 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 aps0 at isa0 port 0x1600/31 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support scsibus1 at sdmmc0: 2 targets, initiator 0 sd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: SD/MMC, Drive #01, SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd1: 968MB, 512 bytes/sec, 1984000 sec total ubt0 at uhub3 port 2 Lenovo Computer Corp ThinkPad Bluetooth with Enhanced Data Rate II rev 2.00/3.52 addr 2 softraid0 at root root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b cpu1: unknown i686 EBL_CR_POWERON value 3 (0x428c0800) -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/ Netiquette Guidelines: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.html
getarg(3)
Hi, While browsing the manpages for getopt(3), I stumbled upon getarg(3). Can someone point me to getarg.h? Even the online manpage[1] can't find it[2]. I'm using a fairly recent snapshot $ sysctl kern.version kern.version=OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #1516: Sat Nov 29 17:18:17 MST 2008 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC Thanks, Floor [1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=getargapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html [2] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/usr/include/getarg.h -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/ Netiquette Guidelines: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.html
Re: getarg(3)
Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:46:13PM +0100, Floor Terra wrote: Hi, While browsing the manpages for getopt(3), I stumbled upon getarg(3). Can someone point me to getarg.h? Even the online manpage[1] can't find it[2]. locate(1) is your friend. It's a kerberos specific file: /usr/src/kerberosV/src/lib/roken/getarg.h It's not installed, however. Leaves the question if it should be installed. Either that or the manpage should not be installed. Locate couldn't find getarg.h on my system, Google did point me to the right location. I copied it to the source directory of my project and it works (good enough for a homework assignment ;)). I agree that either the manpage should be removed, or getarg.h should be installed. It's confusing. -Otto Thanks! Floor -- Floor Terra flo...@gmail.com www: http://brobding.mine.nu/ Netiquette Guidelines: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.html
Re: WPA Enterprise (openBSD 4.4)
kabel wrote: Hello, being a new openBSD User, I encounter several problems, which I normally manage to solve by doing research and/or reading man files. Except for one thing. WPA Enterprise. As far as I know OpenBSD doesn't have 802.1X (The Enterprise part of WPA Enterprise) support. I have a quote from *Jonathan Gray:* So there are a few problems, one is that no one is terribly interested in developing the required code for it, and the other is that all the freely available 802.1X supplicants seem to be vastly overengineered. The focus is more towards having as much hardware as possible just working out of box than dealing with the pain of yet another IEEE state machine. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2007/05/03/openbsd-41-puffy-strikes-again.html?page=2 At my university we have an WPA Enterprise Wlan, where students use to connect to the virtual world. I'm at the university of Amsterdam and they have 802.1X too. I wish I could do more than buy a cd set every release. Well, after installing openBSD 4.4 snapshot, I didn't encounter problems to connect to WPA(2) Networks, works really great, except for this university network, which is very important for me, because I spend most of my time there. I found out in the man page that WPA Enterprise is supported. Owing a wlan card using the wpi driver this should work. I also manage to connect to the AP. I see following output when I enter ifconfig wpi0: wpi0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 lladdr 00:14:02:08:e4:3f groups: wlan media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (OFDM36 mode 11a) status: active ieee80211: nwid wlan23 chan 11 bssid 00:20:2b:68:e6:b0 37dB wpaprotos wpa1 wpaakms 802.1x wpaciphers tkip wpagroupcipher tkip 100dBm inet6 fe80::213:2ff:fe08:e43f%wpi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 My problem is that I don't know how to authenticate myself. How can I provide my login an password? I would be very pleased if someone has the time to help me, Thanks Greetings, Kabel -- Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://brobding.mine.nu/ Netiquette Guidelines: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.html
Re: Amsterdam OpenBSD 4.4 release party op donderdag 6 november
This is the third release party in Amsterdam! Pictures from the last two times can be found here: http://brobding.mine.nu/pictures/ See you the sixth of november! Floor chefren wrote: Donderdag 6 november Cafe de Deugniet Oude Brugsteeg 12, 1012 JP Amsterdam http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=qhl=enq=Oudebrugsteeg+12,+Amsterdam+1012+Amsterdam,+North+Holland,+The+Netherlandssll=52.469397,5.509644sspn=3.741684,6.097412ie=UTF8cd=1geocode=0,52.375293,4.897561t=hz=17iwloc=addr 18:00 verzamelen voor De Deugniet voor eten in de buurt, vanaf 20:00 in De Deugniet, in de hoek linksachter. +++chefren p.s. The above language is called Dutch, doesn't matter if you don't fully understand, if you like OpenBSD a little or a lot: you are invited too! -- Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://brobding.mine.nu/ Netiquette Guidelines: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.html
Re: dmesg ASUS EEEPC 1000H
Hi, Sven Wolf wrote: Hi, I've successfully installed -current on a ASUS EEEPC 1000H (via an usb stick). At the moment lii doesn't detect the wired lan adapter: Attansic Technology L1E rev 0xb0 but maybe there will be a patch in the future... For the LAN connection I've used an USB adapter: axe0 at uhub0 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 Cisco-Linksys USB200M v2 I'm using -current on my Eee PC 1000H too. Wired ethernet is indeed not working but most annoying is the battery sensor: $ apm Battery state: unknown, 0% remaining, 0 minutes life estimate A/C adapter state: connected Performance adjustment mode: cool running (800 MHz) It's nice to know when you are out of power. But luckily the batteries last a long time and if I recharge after about 4 hours, I'm safe. If you have any question just contact me. I've tried to install some packages but it seems that libiconv-1.12 is broken in the current snaphot :( Have you tested the webcam? It should work according to the dmesg: $ dmesg OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #0: Mon Aug 25 15:47:15 CEST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR real mem = 1064529920 (1015MB) avail mem = 1020891136 (973MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/11/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0700 (30 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0901 date 07/11/2008 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 1000H apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 3.0 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf8770/176 (9 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82801GBM LPC rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #5 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xec00! cpu0 at mainbus0 cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x060f0c2306000c23 cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1600 MHz (1260 mV): speeds: 1600, 800 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GME Host rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GME Video rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) agp0 at vga1: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: irq 5 azalia0: codec[s]: Realtek/0x0269 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: irq 5 pci1 at ppb0 bus 4 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: irq 10 pci2 at ppb1 bus 3 Attansic Technology L1E rev 0xb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 not configured ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: irq 11 pci3 at ppb2 bus 1 ral0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Ralink RT2790 rev 0x00: irq 11, address 00:15:af:cb:9b:11 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2872 (rev 0x0200), RF RT2720 (1T2R) uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: irq 3 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: irq 7 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: irq 5 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: irq 3 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe2 pci4 at ppb3 bus 5 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GBM LPC rev 0x02: PM disabled pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GBM SATA rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST980811AS wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 biomask ebfd netmask ebfd ttymask mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support uvideo0 at uhub0 port 8 configuration 1 interface 0 Chicony Electronics Co.,
Re: developer laptop choices
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Pieter Verberne wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:52:44AM -0500, Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote: I'm curious as to the 'modal' laptop that the developers use - that would probably be a good steer for what to buy. Anyone interested in making a database with as many laptops as possible with me? I would like to create a permissive-licensed, laptop comparisation database. I do these things more often in CSV: http://www.xs4all.nl/~pjhv/plog/080306-browsers http://www.xs4all.nl/~pjhv/plog/2008-06-17-window_managers.csv I want anyone to be able to download the database file itself since a webapplication for database querying is more limited I think. I want to compare as many as possible things. For example: CPU, memory, HD, audiocard, speakers, optical drive, OS, warranty, GPU, case-material, webcam, tracking devices, fingerprint, keyboard layout, NIC, size, weight, accu (durability) etc etc. I think I could make up more than 50 comparable things. I'm not experienced with databases at all, but I like to create content. First I want to discuss what datamodel we are going to us. And would it be possible to create such a database via CVS? I'm willing to help, but I think it would be better to use a real database like sqlite. If you need help with the database format, I can make a quick mock-up tonight. I'm not experienced with desktop (gui) applications, but web based or cli stuff I can help you with. Send me an (off list) email with your plans/requirements and I'll see what I can do. Pieter Verberne -- Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://brobding.mine.nu/ Netiquette Guidelines: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.html
Re: is it possible to install matlab2008 on openbsd ?
On Sat, 24 May 2008, elflord woods wrote: hi all: i've installed the fedora_base and turned on linux emulation in the sysclt.conf and i've mounted my matlab disk but when i run install i get: Sorry ! We could not determine the machine architecture for your host You may be attempting to install on an unsupported OS Is there anything we could do ? Try this: http://www.csl.cornell.edu/~rajit/fbsd/matlab.html Thanks -- Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://brobding.mine.nu/ Netiquette Guidelines: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.html
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
Hi, On Tue, 20 May 2008, GVG GVG wrote: Dear Group, when I try to remotely ssh connect to a OpenBSD 4.3 box via port 80 I get: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host Are you sure you are not trying to connect to httpd? -bash-3.2$ ssh -p 80 -v brobding.mine.nu OpenSSH_4.6, OpenSSL 0.9.7j 04 May 2006 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Connecting to brobding.mine.nu [62.194.34.244] port 80. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/floort/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/floort/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/floort/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host This is a connection to my own httpd. Please note, that the same box allows me to use port 443 and both ports (80 and 443) are registered in the sshd_config file. Have you restarted sshd? Floor -- Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://brobding.mine.nu/ Netiquette Guidelines: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.html
Re: Time for OBSD everywhere?
On Fri, 16 May 2008, chefren wrote: Hello Daniel, On 5/16/08 8:54 PM, Daniel Ouellet wrote: I know at time it was said that OpenBSD is not for everything, but so far, I still haven't find anything that I need that OpenBSD can't shine doing. Not to challenge you or anyone else personally: What's the best program to look at Microsoft Powerpoint presentations? I now and the receive them, K presenter crashes on them, and still have to forward them to a Mac. +++chefren If you just need to look at them and don't mind if the slides are not perfect, Open Office and Google docs will do just fine. Floor -- Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://brobding.mine.nu/ Netiquette Guidelines: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.html
Re: Chatting with developers? Is it soo 1996?
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, mickey wrote: i think you've just invoked the godwin's law... cu As we're already off topic: Why not talk to the developers personally? On the 4.2 release date a small group of OpenBSD users and developers went to a cafe in Amsterdam. You'll get much more information out of a developer after a few beers. ;) If there are people from around Amsterdam who are willing to have a small release party for 4.3 I'll be happy to attend. Last time was fun! Pics: http://brobding.mine.nu/Brobding.mine.nu/Albums/Pages/OpenBSD_4.2.html Floor -- Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: iTunes Server OpenBSD
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Khalid Schofield wrote: Hi, messing around with an iTunes server under openbsd. I've had a look at a number of web pages on setting on up using bsd. But not sure about mDNS. http://www.unixfun.net/howto/bsd/itunes.html I've installed mt-daapd from the ports tree but can't seem to find mDNSResponder. It's not in the bsd packages either. Also had a look at this tutorial http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-January/070463.html but this port seems to have died too /usr/ports/net/p5-Net-Rendezvous Has anyone looked at this before and can anyone give me advice? At first I thought all I need is daapd then I saw I require the mDNS stuff and ground to a halt there. khalid I tried this a while ago too and didn't succeed. The package you are looking for containing mDNSResponder and friends is called howl. I did not spend a lot of time trying to make this work and I think I had problems with howl using broadcasts. If you do succeed after installing howl, let me know. Floor -- Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Re: iTunes Server OpenBSD
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Khalid Schofield wrote: Argh broadcast. Makes my guts ache thinking of netBIOS.. Is that what the apple bonjour technology is? Just loads of broadcast? I just googled it. It's suppost to be multicast DNS (mDNS). If you are using OS X mDNS is really handy. I dont know the exact difference between multicast and broadcast, but they don't seem verry different. Floor -- Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://brobding.mine.nu/
Powerbook G4 turn off screen
Hi, I have installed OpenBSD 4.2 GENERIC#1517 macppc on my Powerbook G4 (dmesg below) to use it as a server. Is there a way to power down the screen to save power? Floor Terra [ using 375776 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ] console out [NVDA,Display-A]console in [keyboard] ADB found using parent NVDA,Parent:: memaddr a000 size 1000, : consaddr a0008000, : ioaddr 9100, size 100: memtag 8000, iotag 8000: width 1024 linebytes 1024 height 768 depth 8 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2007 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #1517: Tue Aug 28 10:42:20 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/macppc/compile/GENERIC real mem = 1342177280 (1280MB) avail mem = 1287536640 (1227MB) mainbus0 at root: model PowerBook6,8 cpu0 at mainbus0: 7447A (Revision 0x102): 1499 MHz: 512KB L2 cache memc0 at mainbus0: uni-n hw-clock at memc0 not configured kiic0 at memc0 offset 0xf8001000 iic0 at kiic0 adt0 at iic0 addr 0x2e: adt7467 rev 0x71 asms0 at iic0 addr 0x58, rev 1.34, version 0.1 mpcpcibr0 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0xff pci0 at mpcpcibr0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Apple UniNorth AGP rev 0x00 vgafb0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5200 rev 0xa1, mmio wsdisplay0 at vgafb0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation) mpcpcibr1 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0x5 pci1 at mpcpcibr1 bus 0 pchb1 at pci1 dev 11 function 0 Apple UniNorth PCI rev 0x00 Broadcom BCM4306 rev 0x03 at pci1 dev 18 function 0 not configured macobio0 at pci1 dev 23 function 0 Apple Intrepid rev 0x00 openpic0 at macobio0 offset 0x4: version 0x4614 little endian macgpio0 at macobio0 offset 0x50 modem-reset at macgpio0 offset 0x1d not configured modem-power at macgpio0 offset 0x1c not configured accelerometer-1 at macgpio0 offset 0x13 not configured accelerometer-2 at macgpio0 offset 0x14 not configured headphone-mute at macgpio0 offset 0x1f not configured amp-mute at macgpio0 offset 0x20 not configured hw-reset at macgpio0 offset 0x25 not configured linein-detect at macgpio0 offset 0xc not configured headphone-detect at macgpio0 offset 0x17 not configured macgpio1 at macgpio0 offset 0x9 irq 47 programmer-switch at macgpio0 offset 0x11 not configured cpu-vcore-select at macgpio0 offset 0x6b not configured gpio4 at macgpio0 offset 0x1e not configured escc-legacy at macobio0 offset 0x12000 not configured zsc0 at macobio0 offset 0x13000: irq 22,23 zstty0 at zsc0 channel 0 zstty1 at zsc0 channel 1 snapper0 at macobio0 offset 0x0: irq 30,1,2 timer at macobio0 offset 0x15000 not configured adb0 at macobio0 offset 0x16000 irq 25: via-pmu, 2 targets akbd0 at adb0 addr 2: iBook keyboard with inverted T (ISO layout) wskbd0 at akbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 abtn0 at adb0 addr 7: brightness/volume/eject buttons apm0 at adb0: battery flags 0x5, 98% charged piic0 at adb0 iic1 at piic0 battery at macobio0 offset 0x0 not configured backlight at macobio0 offset 0xf300 not configured kiic1 at macobio0 offset 0x18000 iic2 at kiic1 wdc0 at macobio0 offset 0x2 irq 24: DMA atapiscsi0 at wdc0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: MATSHITA, CD-RW CW-8123, CA14 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(wdc0:0:0): using BIOS timings, DMA mode 2 audio0 at snapper0 ohci0 at pci1 dev 24 function 0 Apple Intrepid USB rev 0x00: irq 0, version 1.0, legacy support ohci1 at pci1 dev 25 function 0 Apple Intrepid USB rev 0x00: irq 0, version 1.0, legacy support ohci2 at pci1 dev 26 function 0 Apple Intrepid USB rev 0x00: irq 29, version 1.0, legacy support ohci3 at pci1 dev 27 function 0 NEC USB rev 0x43: irq 63, version 1.0 ohci4 at pci1 dev 27 function 1 NEC USB rev 0x43: irq 63, version 1.0 ehci0 at pci1 dev 27 function 2 NEC USB rev 0x04: irq 63 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0: NEC EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1: Apple OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2: Apple OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb3 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3: Apple OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb4 at ohci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4: NEC OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb5 at ohci4: USB revision 1.0 uhub5 at usb5: NEC OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 mpcpcibr2 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0x6 pci2 at mpcpcibr2 bus 0 pchb2 at pci2 dev 11 function 0 Apple UniNorth PCI rev 0x00 kauaiata0 at pci2 dev 13 function 0 Apple Intrepid ATA rev 0x00 wdc1 at kauaiata0 irq 39: DMA wd0 at wdc1 channel 0 drive 0: SAMSUNG HM160JC wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152627MB, 312581808 sectors wd0(wdc1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 5 Apple UniNorth Firewire rev 0x81 at pci2 dev 14 function 0 not configured gem0 at pci2 dev 15 function 0 Apple Uni-N2 GMAC rev 0x80: irq 41, address 00:11:24:da:75:ee bmtphy0 at gem0 phy
Re: Powerbook G4 turn off screen
On 2/19/08, Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Floor Terra wrote: I have installed OpenBSD 4.2 GENERIC#1517 macppc on my Powerbook G4 (dmesg below) to use it as a server. Is there a way to power down the screen to save power? $ xset dpms force off Thanks. Now I have to run X, but that's ok. Floor
Re: Powerbook G4 turn off screen
On 2/19/08, Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Floor Terra wrote: Now I have to run X, but that's ok. Ah... well then: $ wsconsctl display.backlight=0 Even better! Floor
Re: Where is NAN Defined?
On 2/10/08, Jim Razmus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to compile a program that uses NAN. It includes math.h which I'm told C99 says should define it. I've grepped the entire source tree and read up on man 3 math and man 3 isinf. Still no joy. Trying to compile the program yields error: `NAN' undeclared (first use in this function). Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Jim Not OpenBSD related, but I was curious myself. Try reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaN Or read isnan(3) if you just want to test is a number is NaN. (NaN != NaN) Floor
Re: A sad thread - RMS vs. OpenBSD
On Jan 7, 2008 11:44 PM, Gregg Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/7/08, Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:02:19 -0800, Reid Nichol wrote: --- Duncan Patton a Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 22:21:14 -0500 Eliah Kagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (There are also multiple useful, mutually-inconsistent formal systems in both fields.) Provably so? +1 I'd love an example of Math being inconsistent. Quite frankly, I'd be surprised if this is true. The following sentence is true. The previous sentence is false. Et ceci: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kurt_G%C3%B6del.jpg n'est pas Kurt Godel. =Offtopic== Can you recommend a book about Godel and his works? I have read A World Without Time from Palle Yourgrau and would like to learn more about his work. Floor Terra
Re: Free - First Ten To Call B u l l S h i t
On Jan 6, 2008 12:45 PM, L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amarendra Godbole wrote: On Jan 6, 2008 1:05 PM, L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/5/08, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no such thing as free as in beer. This is one of the dumbest analogies I have ever heard. Who came up with it anyway? Free as in yeast infection, not free as in beer. Free as in idiotic lunacy. A yeast infection occurs in brewing, yeasties replicate for free free FREE! First ten people to call b u l l s h i t on GNU get the following sent [...] Hope I am one of the first ten Still positions left :) Most people are wussies on this list, that buy their soda and cider from stores. Wussies drink coke too. Real men make their own soda and cider. I can't reply, but you choose to call me a wuss?! I have no problem problem with name calling but what do you hope to accomplish by you request to call GNU bullshit? Although my opinion of GNU is not as positive as it was before this whole RMS vs OpenBSD discussion, I will not insult people just to receive free gifts Floor Terra Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown
Re: Free - First Ten To Call B u l l S h i t
On Jan 6, 2008 7:42 PM, L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Floor Terra wrote: I have no problem problem with name calling but what do you hope to accomplish by you request to call GNU bullshit? Although my opinion of GNU is not as positive as it was before this whole RMS vs OpenBSD discussion, I will not insult people just to receive free gifts Floor Terra Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Well, it is my opinion that GNU/FreeSoftware is bull s h i t and it should be called Stallmanist software. I know that is not the opinion of everyone.. and I know some of you do not think GNU is bull s h i t. And I apologize to those people who do not think a lot of it is bull s h i t. But...regardless, GNU is bull s h i t. The whole GNU philosophy goes ON, and ON, and ON, and continues to get more complicated. It is like a complicated piece of code that keeps getting more complicated. The algorithm, must be simplified and minimal. The license is just an algorithm in words. And GNU licenses are way too complex of an algorithm. They cause so many complications it reminds me of those 5 page PROPRIETARY licenses. When I find a complex algorithm, I call bull s h i t. And you, with a sense of humor, are to do the same.. or just don't reply and don't get your gift ;-) I agree with you, but I don't think I feel as strong about it as you do. And I think you missed my point: Why do you feel the need do pay people just to insult GNU? I appreciate your play on free as in beer. In fact, I would really like to try brewing sometime. But why not offer these gifts for bugfixes? Floor Terra
Re: Play Nice - Real men don't attack straw men (Theo)
On Dec 16, 2007 8:35 PM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I'm sure it's convenient for most of the world to think that free software and open source originated solely in the Linux and GNU projects... They won't get that idea from me. I tell people regularly in my speeches that I found a free software operating system in use at MIT when I started working there in 1971. It is stated in print too. How about making an effort to find out the facts of what I do and say before you criticize? I agree, let's stick to the facts and relevant details. I feel there are two issues here: 1) Does OpenBSD INCLUDE non-free software in it's distribution? 2) If supporting non-free software is bad, why do gcc and emacs (for example) include code to support non-free software? I just finished listening to the BSDTalk interview for the second time and this is what I think: Richard explains in the interview that all BSD distributions (not OpenBSD specifically) INCLUDE non-free software in their ports system. Using the normal definition of include, this statement is incorrect. Richard explains here what he means by include and although his statement is technically correct using his definition, someone listening to the interview will interpret it in the wrong way because he assumes all words are used with their normal meaning. This leads to a misunderstanding about all the BSD's. Once you get over the fact that some words Richard uses are not what they seem, you get to a second issue. This second issue is why Richard is called a hypocrite by Theo. If the BSD's are so bad when they include references to non-free software in their non-recommended ports system, why does code written by Richard himself include code to actively support non-free software? Let's stick to the facts, or even better: Shut up and code! Floor Terra
Re: UUCP to mars
On Dec 15, 2007 8:56 PM, Travers Buda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-15 09:04:07]: On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 03:55:59AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Email and web via UUCP ? I see it making a big comeback when humans finally colonize mars ;-) Just no serial handshaking. No kidding. Think of the delays. between here and there. By the time the US gets to Mars, we'll have quantum communication: instantaneous across the universe. I can't see anyone other than the US going to Mars. Nanu, Nanu. :) Doug. Yeah quantum entanglement sure would be something neat to exploit. -- Travers Buda And I hope that comment about faster than light communication is a joke. And don't say entanglement, because you can't send information using entanglement alone.
Re: Developers: First Reply Gets My Copy Of /On Bullshit/
On Dec 14, 2007 8:16 PM, Breen Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenBSD developers, In recognition of all the bullshit flying around recently on misc@, I would like to offer to mail my copy of of the essay /On Bullshit/ by Harry Frankfurt as a gift to the first OpenBSD developer to request it. This essay is bound in a blue hardcover 4 x 6 (10cm x 15cm) in size, and spans approximately 70 pages. It can be read in less than one hour. Just let me know where to send it and I will drop it off at the courier. For everyone else, we are all lucky enough to be able to access the full text at the following link: http://web.archive.org/web/20031204195648/www.jelks.nu/misc/articles/bs.html Breeno Maybe you should send it to a non-OpenBSD developer. Who needs to learn about bullshit when you have this motto: Shut up and code! Floor
Re: Code signing in OpenBSD
On Dec 5, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I don't see what is the problem with blessing a fingerprint of the binaries with a PKI signature, which would mean that *these* are the binaries the devs intended to release. Who would sign the binaries? Would each package maintainer sign his own packages? Does Theo have to sign each package? I don't see a problem in having signatures for software but I do see problems in creating and maintaining an infrastructure for these signatures. And what would you gain? What guarantees would these signatures give you? You can verify package consistency with md5 sums. If you are paranoid, why would you trust the devs? You would just compile the software yourself. But only after reading each line of code of course. Floor Terra
Re: OpenBSD 4.2 (AMSTERDAM) #1: Fri Nov 02 20:00:00 CEST 2007
Dear OpenBSD users, The OpenBSd launch party last night at cafi De Deugniet was a great succes. It would be great to try to do the same for the next release. Unfortunately I did not remember to bring my camera so I can't put my pictures online. But if someone who did remember to take some pictures sends me their pictures I can put them online. I want to thank everybody who could join us for the great time! I'll see some of you wednesday at the Beurs van Berlage. Floor Terra
OpenBSD 4.2 (AMSTERDAM) #1: Fri Nov 02 20:00:00 CEST 2007
Dear OpenBSD users, A recent thread on undeadly.org (http://undeadly.org/cgi? action=articlesid=20071003175129pid=12) was the start of a plan to organize a small OpenBSD social event in Amsterdam (The Netherlands). It's nothing official, just a few OpenBSD users getting together. The date is friday November 2nd, a perfect date to celebrate the 4.2 release. Cafi De Deugniet is the location, it's a 5 minute walk from Amsterdam central station. The beer is good and there are plenty of restaurants within walking distance. We start at 8:00 PM. Everybody is welcome without reservation and entrance is free. But send an email if you plan to come, I'd like to know how many people to expect. Friday November 2nd Start: 8:00 PM Cafi De deugniet (http://www.kroegpagina.nl/deugniet/) Oude Burgsteeg 12 1012 JP Amsterdam See you November 2nd! Floor Terra
Re: Porting OpenBSD to OLPC XO laptops.
On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:08 PM, big one wrote: OLPC (One Laptop Per Child) had released XO AMD Geode LX Laptops using G1G1 (Buy 2 Get 1). One laptop will be sent to the buyer and the 2nd laptop will be sent to a child in a poor, developing country. According to Mr Theo de Raadt from OpenBSD, it is impossible to write device driver for Wireless chipset inside XO. According to OLPC developer team: 1. There is no standard BIOS inside XO laptops. 2. There is no VGA/EGA/CGA video mode. Is it possible to port OpenBSD to XO Laptops without activating/ using the wireless chipset? Thank you The XO laptop looks like a great little laptop to use without the nice looking but weird SUGAR interface. I was actually hoping to buy one to use with OpenBSD. I didn't think any part of the laptop would be closed. From http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Core_principles/lang-en .. There is no inherent external dependency in being able to localize software into their language, fix the software to remove bugs, and repurpose the software to fit their needs. Nor is there any restriction in regard to redistribution; OLPC cannot know and should not control how the tools we create will be re-purposed in the future. ... Further, every child has something to contribute; we need a free and open framework that supports and encourages the very basic human need to express. Give me a free and open environment and I will learn and teach with joy. Proprietary hardware and software seems to be directly against their core principles. The XO laptop uses Open Firmware instead of a BIOS, so it's probably a lot like a Sun SPARC or a PPC Mac. Can you point me to the source where Theo de Raadt claims that it's impossible to write a driver for the Marvell Libertas controller (wireless networking). I can't seem to find it. Thanks, Floor Terra
Re: Laptop death...
Are you asking why someone who spends so much time helping others (probably you too, you use OpenBSD right?) does not get a real job?! Floor Terra On 1-aug-2007, at 23:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really bad that your laptop is dead.. but I personally always wonder how it can be that such over- qualified person can't even earn enough money for a laptop?! I mean it's not a airplane... I'm not a super hacker but I was able to get money to buy a pretty PowerBook5,7 when I needed it... What's wrong with you guys?! :) ..or maybe it's a religious question not to get a real job.. Really interesting, I don't mean that we must not help each other of-course. Happy hacking, On 7/28/07, Tobias Weingartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I hate doing this, but I'm in a tiny bit of a bind. I'm in need of a new laptop. My old IBM T40p is slowly giving up the ghost after 5+ years of faithful service. As this is my main terminal to hack on and do everything I do on a computer, it's impending doom will significantly affect me. I've looked at the options available, and there really are not that many. I know that there are *lots* of laptops out there that would work, but I am somewhat particular in what I get next. At the current time I'm looking at buying: 26238YU - T60P CD/2.0 1GB 100GB 14.1 SXGA+ DVDR WLS BT DOS Rough Price: $1,645.99 - $1,878.99 Along with this comes taxes and shipping, etc. Unfortunately my current financial situation is that I can only afford to spend $400-$500 dollars on this. Is there anyone out there that could help me out with the rest? Thanks a lot, --Toby.
Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Released
Thanks to all you devs! I will be buying the cd set as soon as http://www.comcol.nl/ has them available. Keep up the good work! Floor Terra
Re: bcw(4) is gone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6-apr-2007, at 10:32, chefren wrote: On 4/6/07 1:26 AM, Andris Delfino wrote: First, this wouldn't happen cause I prefer the BSD license, but, if someone violates the copyright of my work, I'll take that guy down. In the most publicly and shameful way. A) If you really prefer BSD you wouldn't care about what people do with your code, the only reason why your name as an author is in the code is because without that anybody could claim that's my code pay me, your name is there just to prevent other people put claims on it, not for your honour. BSD is about maximum open-ness and making it impossible to violate copyright. B) If you don't have the decency to inquire before you do harm to people, even to a type like Saddam Houssein you are plain stupid asshole. The whole situation makes me think of the sneaky guy in this one: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/12523/f0abd313/index.html +++chefren Mistakes where made on both sides. This entire discussion is about how you handle problems and if you should remain friendly (or not) when such problems occur. Please keep the discussion friendly and on topic. Posting links to a movie of some guy making racist and other insulting comments while videotaping two people fighting DOES NOT HELP ANYONE. What are you trying to accomplish with this? Floor Terra iD8DBQFGFj+NUnW3VkBpTO4RAlK8AKCmZvX9CHj2BoVecskiQjgiD8Y8XgCg32Yw lhj1K0f6dV5+n10b6PYFV5Y= =vnTH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Would it be wrong to
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6-apr-2007, at 15:45, Darren Reed wrote: You write on misc@openbsd.org: Would it be wrong to develop software using existing GPL'ed code as a starting point. And bit by bit rewrite the code until you have rewritten all of it. Then releasing the final code under an BSD license? I still don't know exactly what happened, but I suspect the process went something like this. Only the code in the development phase was public too and this is what pissed of the developers of the GPL'ed version. Yes that would be very wrong. You start off with something that is a derivative work of the GPL'd code and continue creating a new derivative of it. That at the end of the process the code looks nothing like the original is not the point. It was created using the original as the basis of it, so therefore it is a derived work. To create something that isn't a derivative requires starting from scratch and not using other people's work. If that would be wrong, where do you draw the line? Do you consider it derivative work when you create a clone of an application? Or do you have to look at the original code first for it to be derivative work? Maybe you use the original code as documentation to look up some magic numbers? I would say you start with a derivative, but not release it yet. Then piece by piece replace the GPL'ed code with your own code. Now all code is your own creation. With the exception of maybe some magic numbers all code is different. The magic numbers can't be licensed and would be the same even if you didn't use the GPL'ed code as a reference. I do believe it would be polite to mention the GPL'ed code and the developer of it as a source of documentation. Floor Terra iD8DBQFGFlU5UnW3VkBpTO4RAoG8AKDevXvwdVld6uTVD9bYeyPGMsI9fQCgzJq/ rxMPUkvEgSvy4xzKmpxtfIw= =kNV/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: bcw(4) is gone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6-apr-2007, at 0:51, Andris Delfino wrote: Yes, and he was wrong. He shouldn't base his work in copylefted software (if he intend to release the result as non-copylefted). Licenses are licenses. Would it be wrong to develop software using existing GPL'ed code as a starting point. And bit by bit rewrite the code until you have rewritten all of it. Then releasing the final code under an BSD license? I still don't know exactly what happened, but I suspect the process went something like this. Only the code in the development phase was public too and this is what pissed of the developers of the GPL'ed version. Floor iD8DBQFGFYMsUnW3VkBpTO4RAoz0AJ9QbDrwd4JYO9mooUxx6TRhm5clDwCeNGW2 IvES2c/ESqR3o38RjW6sEyY= =c/+8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: How can I view rule numbers under OpenBSD 4.0?
I believe that would be pfctl -vvsr. As in verbose verbose There is no single character w but there are 2 v's. Floor Terra On Dec 19, 2006, at 9:57 AM, C. L. Martinez wrote: Sorry Darren, but pfctl -wsr under OpenBSD doesn't works See: saruman:~# pfctl -wsr pfctl: unknown option -- w usage: pfctl [-AdeghmNnOoqRrvz] [-a anchor] [-D macro=value] [-F modifier] [-f file] [-i interface] [-k host | network] [-p device] [-s modifier] [-t table -T command [address ...]] [-x level] saruman:~# On 12/19/06, Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/18/06, carlopmart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, first of all, many to everybody helps me to block all ipv6 traffic (security staff accept your option). And now my question: how can I view rule numbers assigned by pf?? Under OpenBSD 3.7 using pfctl -ws display this info ... How can I do with OpenBSD 4.0 ?? pfctl -vvsr verbose, verbose, show, rules. Refer to pfctl(8). DS
Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?
Hi, Probably the preferred tool is a computer, a keyboard is a big plus too. Trust me, I tried programming on a Palm TX with the stylus. For brainstorming a pen and paper could be helpful. And if I run into problems Google is my friend. The more specific tools depend on the language and type of program. Floor On Nov 28, 2006, at 9:48 PM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: Hi OpenBSD developers, Which are your preferred tools for develop? (For C, C++, Java, etcno matter the language) It is good to know which tools and why... Thanks, Alvaro
Re: OpenBSD AJAX
I have never used AJAX, but I think you could use it with OpenBSD. AJAX stands for Asynchronous Javascript And XML. Javascript runs clientside and to serve the xml part you can use virtually any scripting language (php, python, perl, ruby.) and most of them run on OpenBSD. You should have no problems at al. Floor Terra On Oct 24, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: Just a Quick Question, I have been searching for a direct answer to: is it possible to have a AJAX enabled Website hosted on OpenBSD? the reason why I am asking is because Apache is version 1.3.x (due to licencing issues). if not Maybe there is another http server that would support it? *if* the answer in large part is no, maybe it should be considered a question for the OpenBSD FAQ? Sam Fourman Jr.
Re: OpenBSD AJAX
Yes, It would be exactly the same as any other cgi. Floor Terra On Oct 24, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: Thanks for the Feedback everyone, my next question is Would it be Possible to use AJAX from a CGI made with C running from Apache that Ships w/ OpenBSD? Sam Fourman Jr. On 10/24/06, Ryan McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 12:55:09AM -0500, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: is it possible to have a AJAX enabled Website hosted on OpenBSD? Yes the reason why I am asking is because Apache is version 1.3.x (due to licencing issues). if not Maybe there is another http server that would support it? AJAX not a particular server-side technology, but rather a set of techniques and tools for building interactive web applications. Most of the magic happens on the client side. Depending on what programming language you're using on the server side, there may be AJAX specific modules or frameworks. For example there appear to at least be some perl AJAX frameworks in our ports tree. Other languages may have similar tools.
Re: Oldest Server you run
My server is kind of old but runs OpenBSD like a charm. # sysctl hw hw.machine=i386 hw.model=Intel Celeron (GenuineIntel 686-class, 128KB L2 cache) hw.ncpu=1 hw.byteorder=1234 hw.physmem=268017664 hw.usermem=267587584 hw.pagesize=4096 hw.disknames=wd0,cd0,fd0 hw.diskcount=3 hw.cpuspeed=401 Floor Terra On Oct 12, 2006, at 8:54 PM, Falk Husemann wrote: Hello List! We're trying to put an old server to good use again and would like to know what's exactly the oldest machine running OpenBSD? As machine we defined something with processor, ram, network, hard disk and a connection to the internet. So no Newton or toaster (at least not if there's no disk being toasted). Thank you in advance, Falk
Re: Wireless Auth
I was thinking of an similar setup in my home. The WLAN would be wide open, but you could only connect to the OpenBSD server. When you want to connect to the rest of the LAN or the internet you would have to login on an VPN. This would create an ecryption layer for all the network traffic and you have authentication. Maybe a similar setup would work for you, but I'm not sure about the security of this setup. I would have to do a little more research. Floor terra On Sep 30, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: I am looking for ways to Authenticate Wireless users(Windows Xp , Mac OSX) that connect to a wireless AP (several using OpenBSD's new Roaming in hostapd) running OpenBSD 4.0 the way i understand it if I use authpf that requires a user to maintain a SSH session. is there some reasonably secure solution(for an Exclusively OpenBSD 4.0 on the back end network) that would maybe allow users to login via a web page portal? LDAP RADIUS maybe? and a side note Does anyone know is Trunk(4) supports wireless cards running in hostap mode? example Failover or loadbalance maybe? I am Looking for Suggestions Sam Fourman Jr.
Re: Managed UPS on OpenBSD
Thanks. I didn't know if there where any OpenBSD specific things I should consider. Thanks for answering anyway! Floor Terra On Sep 19, 2006, at 2:31 AM, Matthew Weigel wrote: Floor Terra wrote: Not an OpenBSD question. That said, it sure looks like http://www.networkupstools.org/compat/stable.html lists a lot of Back-UPS product ranges from APC... -- Matthew Weigel
Managed UPS on OpenBSD
Hi, I'm searching the internet for a Managed UPS for my OpenBSD server. My main concern is protecting the server from damage caused by sudden power-outages. If the power is gone, the server should have enough time to shut down and power off. It's one server so I wont need a big UPS. The problem is: I have no experience with UPS and I can't find decent documentation on UPS on OpenBSD. The UPS I found is the APC BackUPS CS 500 USB/Serial, but on the nut website I can't find if it is supported. They support at least partially one APC protocol, but no information on specific models. Which UPS are known to work on OpenBSD and what software do I use to manage it. Floor Terra
Re: OT: how far are light based logic gates?
I don't think it's a real OpenBSD question, but let me try to answer. As far as I know there are no real (useful) optical processors yet. A while ago there was an new company who promised the EnLight 256. An optical processor for highly specialized tasks, but i never heard about the device being used. Optical logic gates have been created in a research setting, but I don't believe the manufacturing process is useful for large scale production. The real advantage of optical logic gates are in my opinion not calculations. This is because the gates are too large. But you could use optical links for communications between various components in your computer or even between various components inside your cpu. Floor On Jul 9, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Peter Philipp wrote: How far in development are CPU's that only use light as their input and have a series of optical logic gates to do processing? Alternatively they have electric inputs to power laser emitting diodes. Does something exist yet in the 21st century? I'd imagine it would have incredible power savings in operation and for cooling purposes. regards, -peter -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Pufferfisholdid=20768394 | sed -n 131,136p So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: lightweight openbsd
I think 32MB is out of the question unless you would heavily modify the installation and rip out pkg_add and stuff. But I would love to see if its possible. Floor On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/25/06, Lars Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll have a hard time fitting that on 128Mb. base, etc, man, bsd and bsd.rd adds up to ~170Mb and I doubt leaving out man and bsd.rd will get it down to less than 128Mb. Speaking again from experience, it is possible to get by without man.tgz, since they are available online. But it's a pain. -Josh I have installed OpenBSD in my notebook so I can read mans there and thus experimenting with another copy on a desktop pc. Actually I need a system with perl, pf and some tiny http server for cgi scripts. I suppose that it is possible to fit it on a 32mb disk? Am I wrong? What is about my understanding of OpenBSD - I am a new to it and to unix but willing to get know about it as much as possible. Regards, Artyom
