Sending Mail to misc

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

Hi,

I’m able to send mail from my iPad (sorry), but not from my OpenBSD machine 
(same address). Any ideas what could be causing this? 

In the meantime, thanks for 6.8 and happy anniversary.

Jeff 
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[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

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Re: Error Upgrading 6.4 to 6.5 mount failure

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

A more interesting question is, why "rw," with a comma,  worked on 6.4 but not 
6.5.

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On 11 May 2019, 23:28, at 23:28, Antonino Sidoti  wrote:
>I actually got it to upgrade;
>
>Here are my steps;
>
>I tried the ‘bsd.rd’ option and this failed too
>I rebooted the server back to OpenBSD 6.4
>I ran ‘fsck’ on my my partitions and they came back all clean
>I made a change to /etc/fstab using ‘vi’ and changed the following;
>From = 123efb4cf9e3e6af.a / ffs rw,1 1
>To = 123efb4cf9e3e6af.a / ffs rw 1 1
>Saved my changes and rebooted again to make sure all partitions will
>mount
>No issue after the reboot and all partition mounted
>Rebooted to start upgrade; 'boot bsd.rd’
>I selected ‘u’ to upgrade
>System upgraded with no errors and now I am running 6.5
>
>Thanks for your input and suggestions.
>
>> On 11 May 2019, at 11:34 am, Theo de Raadt 
>wrote:
>>
>> Antonino Sidoti  wrote:
>>
>> [1. image/png; Screen Shot 2019-05-11 at 8.43.13 am.png]...
>
>> Antonino,
>>
>> If you can't file a proper bug report as described in many places --
>> such as the FAQ -- that is just lazy and inconsiderate.  You are
>pushing
>> others to go out of their way for some random person who elects to
>steal
>> their time.
>>
>> Grow up.  Be a responsibile adult.  Do it right, or go run something
>> else, or even consider buying a product.
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: New laptop recommendations

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

ThinkPads use devices for which there are open source devices for everything, 
as far as I know. Still, hardware support in the BSDs lags Linux to varying 
degrees, because of slower hardware. (My 2015 E550, for example, still lacked 
full video support in FreeBSD RELEASE,  last time I looked.

In my experience, hardware support is actually better in OpenBSD than FreeBSD.

Jeff

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On 26 Jun 2018, 09:07, at 09:07, Marco van Hulten  wrote:
>Robert,
>
>On 25 Jun 22:01 Robert Gilaard wrote:
>> I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell
>> laptops because they come pre-configured with Ubuntu and therefore I
>> assume they will be opensource friendly.
>
>It could be fine, but I would not just assume this.  The pre-configured
>Ubuntu may contain proprietary drivers, which you may not want to use,
>and are not included in OpenBSD.
>
>> I have short listed:1. Dell
>> Precision 7520 ($1502)2. Dell Precision 7720 ($1412)3. Dell Precision
>> 3520 ($1352) Prices are based on my hardware choices so ymmv.
>
>I have a Dell Latitude E7470, which had serveral power management
>related issues in spring last year (e.g. hanging when waking up from
>suspend).  The worst of these issues disappeared because OpenBSD and
>Ubuntu (also installed as it is officially provided by my employer) got
>support for the hardware over the summer of 2017.  There is still the
>issue of an OpenBSD segfault when I attach/detach the laptop to/from my
>docking station.
>
>In retrospect, I wish I took the similarly spec'ed Lenovo Thinkpad that
>my employer also offered, because Thinkpads are said to be "opensource
>friendly" (but that may be just as well be wishful thinking).
>
>Marco

Re: New laptop recommendations

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

Definitely second the ThinkPad recommendations. I have an X230i, bought used, 
on which I currently run OpenBSD 6.3, and an E550 on which I've used OpenBSD in 
the past; both run perfectly as of 6.2, except for the fingerprint reader on 
the X (although to be fair I haven't tried that again recently).

Jeff

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On 19 Jun 2018, 11:51, at 11:51, Daniel Gracia  wrote:
>I would opt for a Thinkpad. Actually working with a T460s; runs like a
>charm. If you are looking for mobility, a T series should fit. If you
>need
>more horsepower take a look at P series.
>
>Of course those are my preferences, YMMV!
>
>Regards.
>
>El mar., 19 jun. 2018 a las 12:41, Rupert Gallagher
>()
>escribió:
>
>> I'm done with my 10 years old 1200EUR MacBookPro. It served me well,
>every
>> day, but is now falling apart, finally.
>>
>> I would buy a new one if only Steve Jobs would be alive and keeping
>Apple
>> inspired. The new models are meticulously designed to make you
>suffer:
>> expensive, slow cpu, soldered ram, soldered disk, small disk, bad
>keyboard
>> keys, wifi only, must pay extra for standard connectors.
>>
>> I have 1500EUR for a new laptop. What would you buy with it?
>>

Re: thank you for 6.3

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

Yes, I'd like to add to the general chorus of thanks. As I've mentioned
several times already, I'm a chronic distro hopper, yet have upgraded all
the way from OpenBSD 6.1 to 6.3 on the X230i and have experienced no
problems (running -release or whatever the official name is; occasional
problems with -snapshot or -current are of course to be expected), and am
seriously tempted to replace Fedora on the E550. OpenBSD is definitely the
cream of the BSD crop.

Jeff.

On 19 April 2018 at 18:02, Alfred Morgan  wrote:

> Yes, thank you. Let's each of us give a pizza to show our appreciation.
> http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html
>
> --
> -alfred
>

Re: Beg for Atheros wifi driver

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

On 15 April 2018 at 20:38, Roderick  wrote:

>
> I suspect, he needs to plug his atheros device, connect the computer
> with *other* interface to the internet, and then run "fw_update".
>
> Rodrigo.
>
>
>
That's what I meant, if it wasn't clear. Except that I assumed that the
device he already had that wasn't working, was internal, so no plugging
needed.

Jeff.

Re: pkg_info -Q fails [OpenBSD 6.3 amd64/virtualbox]

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

On 15 April 2018 at 12:03, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado <i...@juanfra.info>
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 11:19:50AM +0100, Jeffrey Joshua Rollin wrote:
> > No, it works fine with pkg_add, as I have repeatedly said, and a few
> months ago I did have a problem where a trailing slash caused problems with
> syspatch, which, without any pressure from me, I was informed would be
> fixed. The issue may simply be one of consistency, but looks more likely to
> be an error in the pkg_info script.
> >
> > So, to sum up:
> >
> > Pkg_add works;
> > Syspatch works;
> > Cloudflare was up last time I tried it;
> > Despite the above, pkg_info -Q does *not* work.
>
> Try this:
>
> $ su -l root
> # echo 'https://fastly.cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/' > /etc/installurl
> # unset PKG_PATH
> # pkg_info -Q mate
>
> If fastly works, try with cloudflare again. BTW, we don't have a
> metapackage for mate.
>

Whoops, I forgot about this bit. Yes, fastly works, but trying just
https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/ does not; I tried that because it was
listed on the OpenBSD website FAQ, having forgotten fthat I'd used
cloudflare before; the same error came up with the address listed on the
website, as I mentioned previously.

For now, I'll just stick to fastly. Thanks.

> --
> Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info
>

Re: Beg for Atheros wifi driver

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

Depending on the chipset (and you don't mention which it is), the system
may recognise and download the firmware for the card, if you plug in an
ethernet cable before the first boot (after install). If you've already
installed it, run fw_update(1) as root.

Also, not sure why you would be warned to avoid Intel wifi chipsets, as
OpenBSD includes support for several in (at least) two drivers: this laptop
I'm typing on requires the iwn(4) driver, and my other one requires iwm(4),
but as of 6.2 both work perfectly - after installation with an ethernet
cable.

If you don't have one, could you beg or borrow one from a friend? If the
wifi works, you would literally only need it to download the drivers and
then can give it back. (I'd be happy to oblige, but I'm on the other side
of the Pond.)

Jeff.

On 15 April 2018 at 17:37, Manuel Solis  wrote:

> Dear Misc,
>
> Could you please add support for the Atheros wifi card?
>
> Sorry sorry and thousands sorrys for asking, but i am a happy ever after
> OpenBSD user,
> i had it installed since 6.0 in all my work and personal computers with no
> problem at all,
> but i had to get a new computer this year so i got a Lenovo computer, and
> the wifi card was not supported,
> so i bought a couple (three!) wifi usb adapters in local stores and they
> were not supported,
> then i ordered an internal wifi card and was not supported,
> then i was in Wallmart in United States and asked you about buying a
> Netgear wifi usb and mr Stefan kindly save me from buying it because was
> not supported,
> then i remembered the "dont buy cheap wifi cards" from the FAQ,
> so i ordered an ACER Nitro 5 AMD / Radeon / Atheros laptop
> https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Radeon-Graphics-Windows-AN515-
> 41-F6VS/dp/B075KN357R/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1523810050=
> 8-1=acer+nitro+amd
> thinking that maybe if i avoid the intel chipset i should time be happy,
> but the card is not supported either!!
>
> If someone could help i really appreciate it,
> If you consider that is so much trouble, could someone sell me your usb
> wifi adapter or tell me the comercial name to buy it ???
>
> Thank you so much for your help!
>
> Manuel
>
>
>
> OpenBSD 6.3 (RAMDISK_CD) #98: Sat Mar 24 14:26:39 MDT 2018
> dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/RAMDISK_CD
> real mem = 7991980032 (7621MB)
> avail mem = 7745982464 (7387MB)
> mainbus0 at root
> bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 3.0 @ 0xe3980 (23 entries)
> bios0: vendor Insyde Corp. version "V1.03" date 06/21/2017
> bios0: Acer Nitro AN515-41
> acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
> acpi0: tables DSDT FACP UEFI MSDM ASF! BOOT HPET APIC MCFG SPCR UEFI SSDT
> SSDT SSDT CRAT SSDT TPM2 SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT FPDT
> acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
> cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 16 (boot processor)
> cpu0: AMD FX-9830P RADEON R7, 12 COMPUTE CORES 4C+8G, 2994.80 MHz
> cpu0:
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,
> CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,
> MWAIT,SSSE3,FMA3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,
> AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,
> LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,
> IBS,XOP,SKINIT,WDT,FMA4,TCE,NODEID,TBM,CPCTR,DBKP,PERFTSC,
> MWAITX,ITSC,FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2
> cpu0: 96KB 64b/line 3-way I-cache, 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 1MB
> 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
> cpu0: ITLB 48 4KB entries fully associative, 24 4MB entries fully
> associative
> cpu0: DTLB 64 4KB entries fully associative, 64 4MB entries fully
> associative
> cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz
> cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, IBE
> cpu at mainbus0: not configured
> cpu at mainbus0: not configured
> cpu at mainbus0: not configured
> ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 21, 24 pins
> , remapped to apid 4
> ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 5 pa 0xfec01000, version 21, 32 pins
> , remapped to apid 5
> acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
> acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP0)
> acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (GPP1)
> acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (GPP2)
> acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP3)
> acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP4)
> acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 3 (GFX0)
> acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (GFX1)
> acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (GFX2)
> acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus -1 (GFX3)
> acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus -1 (GFX4)
> acpiec0 at acpi0
> acpicpu at acpi0 not configured
> acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured
> acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured
> acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured
> acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured
> acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured
> acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured
> acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured
> acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured
> acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured
> "PNP0C0C" at acpi0 not configured
> "PNP0C0E" at acpi0 not configured
> "FUJ7401" at acpi0 not configured
> "PNP0C0A" at acpi0 not configured
> "ACPI0003" at acpi0 not configured
> "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
> "PNP0C0D" at acpi0 not configured
> "AMD0030" at acpi0 not configured
> "AMD0010" at acpi0 not configured
> "ELAN0501" at 

Re: pkg_info -Q fails [OpenBSD 6.3 amd64/virtualbox]

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

Yes, I'd already remembered that myself.

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On 15 Apr 2018, 12:03, at 12:03, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado 
<i...@juanfra.info> wrote:
>On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 11:19:50AM +0100, Jeffrey Joshua Rollin wrote:
>> No, it works fine with pkg_add, as I have repeatedly said, and a few
>months ago I did have a problem where a trailing slash caused problems
>with syspatch, which, without any pressure from me, I was informed
>would be fixed. The issue may simply be one of consistency, but looks
>more likely to be an error in the pkg_info script.
>>
>> So, to sum up:
>>
>> Pkg_add works;
>> Syspatch works;
>> Cloudflare was up last time I tried it;
>> Despite the above, pkg_info -Q does *not* work.
>
>Try this:
>
>$ su -l root
># echo 'https://fastly.cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/' > /etc/installurl
># unset PKG_PATH
># pkg_info -Q mate
>
>If fastly works, try with cloudflare again. BTW, we don't have a
>metapackage for mate.
>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> ⁣Sent from Blue ​
>>
>> On 15 Apr 2018, 03:26, at 03:26, Edgar Pettijohn
><ed...@pettijohn-web.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >On 04/14/18 19:34, Jeffrey Joshua Rollin wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from Blue <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=12687>
>> >> On 15 Apr 2018, at 00:31, Edgar Pettijohn <ed...@pettijohn-web.com
>> >> <mailto:ed...@pettijohn-web.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 04/14/18 15:08, Jeffrey Joshua Rollin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi, I've installed OpenBSD 6.3-release for amd64 on
>> >> virtualbox, and updated it with syspatch as of 20:40 UTC.
>> >> pkg_info -Q seems to be failing. Specifically, I tried $
>> >> pkg_info -Q mate ...and also as root, to remind myself
>what
>> >> the metapackage is [I have a feeling it's just "mate"
>anyway]
>> >> [EDIT: Metapackages? maybe I'm thinking of FreeBSD]; but:
>> >> pkg_info -Q firefox also fails, despite the fact I just
>> >> successfully installed Firefox. The relevant error is as
>> >> follows: Redirected to
>> >>
>>
>>https://cloudflare.cdn.openbsd/org/pub/OpenBSD/6.3/packages-stable/amd64
>> >>
>> >>
>> >^^
>> >Your PKG_PATH appears to have a couple of errors.
>> >
>> >https://cloudflare.cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.3/packages/amd64
>> >
>> >and I can't remember but it may need to end with a `/'
>> >>
>> >> Can't locate object method "syslog" via package
>> >> "OpenBSD::PkgInfo::State" at
>> >> /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PackageRepository.pm
>> >> <http://PackageRepository.pm> line 302, <$fh> line 3.
>Thanks,
>> >> Jeff.
>> >>
>> >> edgar:7$ pkg_info -Q mate
>> >> checkmate-0.21
>> >> libmatekbd-1.20.0
>> >> libmatemixer-1.20.0
>> >> libmateweather-1.20.0
>> >> mate-calc-1.20.0
>> >> mate-control-center-1.20.0
>> >> mate-desktop-1.20.0
>> >> mate-icon-theme-1.20.0
>> >> mate-media-1.20.0
>> >> mate-menus-1.20.0
>> >> mate-notification-daemon-1.20.0
>> >> mate-panel-1.20.0
>> >> mate-power-manager-1.20.0
>> >> mate-screensaver-1.20.0
>> >> mate-session-manager-1.20.0
>> >> mate-settings-daemon-1.20.0
>> >> mate-terminal-1.20.0
>> >> mate-themes-3.22.15
>> >> mate-utils-1.20.0
>> >> sslmate-1.5.1p1
>> >> tmate-2.2.1p0
>> >>
>> >> I suspect its because
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>https://cloudflare.cdn.openbsd/org/pub/OpenBSD/6.3/packages-stable/amd64
>> >>
>> >> doesn't exist or is down.
>> >>
>> >> It exists, and is unlikely to be a transient error,
>> >>
>> >> because I tried it several times, and as I said,  was able
>> >>
>> >> to download software even though I couldn't query it.
>> >>
>> >> (I subsequently found a YouTube tutorial which listed
>> >>
>> >> most of the packages in your message.)
>> >>
>> >> I will try again, and/or with a different mirror in
>> >>
>> >> the morning.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>
>--
>Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info

Re: pkg_info -Q fails [OpenBSD 6.3 amd64/virtualbox]

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

No, it works fine with pkg_add, as I have repeatedly said, and a few months ago 
I did have a problem where a trailing slash caused problems with syspatch, 
which, without any pressure from me, I was informed would be fixed. The issue 
may simply be one of consistency, but looks more likely to be an error in the 
pkg_info script.

So, to sum up:

Pkg_add works;
Syspatch works;
Cloudflare was up last time I tried it;
Despite the above, pkg_info -Q does *not* work.

Jeff

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On 15 Apr 2018, 03:26, at 03:26, Edgar Pettijohn <ed...@pettijohn-web.com> 
wrote:
>
>
>On 04/14/18 19:34, Jeffrey Joshua Rollin wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sent from Blue <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=12687>
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 00:31, Edgar Pettijohn <ed...@pettijohn-web.com
>> <mailto:ed...@pettijohn-web.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 04/14/18 15:08, Jeffrey Joshua Rollin wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I've installed OpenBSD 6.3-release for amd64 on
>> virtualbox, and updated it with syspatch as of 20:40 UTC.
>> pkg_info -Q seems to be failing. Specifically, I tried $
>> pkg_info -Q mate ...and also as root, to remind myself what
>> the metapackage is [I have a feeling it's just "mate" anyway]
>> [EDIT: Metapackages? maybe I'm thinking of FreeBSD]; but:
>> pkg_info -Q firefox also fails, despite the fact I just
>> successfully installed Firefox. The relevant error is as
>> follows: Redirected to
>>   
>https://cloudflare.cdn.openbsd/org/pub/OpenBSD/6.3/packages-stable/amd64
>>
>>
>^^
>Your PKG_PATH appears to have a couple of errors.
>
>https://cloudflare.cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.3/packages/amd64
>
>and I can't remember but it may need to end with a `/'
>>
>> Can't locate object method "syslog" via package
>> "OpenBSD::PkgInfo::State" at
>> /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PackageRepository.pm
>> <http://PackageRepository.pm> line 302, <$fh> line 3. Thanks,
>> Jeff.
>>
>> edgar:7$ pkg_info -Q mate
>> checkmate-0.21
>> libmatekbd-1.20.0
>> libmatemixer-1.20.0
>> libmateweather-1.20.0
>> mate-calc-1.20.0
>> mate-control-center-1.20.0
>> mate-desktop-1.20.0
>> mate-icon-theme-1.20.0
>> mate-media-1.20.0
>> mate-menus-1.20.0
>> mate-notification-daemon-1.20.0
>> mate-panel-1.20.0
>> mate-power-manager-1.20.0
>> mate-screensaver-1.20.0
>> mate-session-manager-1.20.0
>> mate-settings-daemon-1.20.0
>> mate-terminal-1.20.0
>> mate-themes-3.22.15
>> mate-utils-1.20.0
>> sslmate-1.5.1p1
>> tmate-2.2.1p0
>>
>> I suspect its because
>>
>>
>https://cloudflare.cdn.openbsd/org/pub/OpenBSD/6.3/packages-stable/amd64
>>
>> doesn't exist or is down.
>>
>> It exists, and is unlikely to be a transient error,
>>
>> because I tried it several times, and as I said,  was able
>>
>> to download software even though I couldn't query it.
>>
>> (I subsequently found a YouTube tutorial which listed
>>
>> most of the packages in your message.)
>>
>> I will try again, and/or with a different mirror in
>>
>> the morning.
>>
>> Jeff
>>

pkg_info -Q fails [OpenBSD 6.3 amd64/virtualbox]

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

Hi,

I've installed OpenBSD 6.3-release for amd64 on virtualbox, and updated it
with syspatch as of 20:40 UTC. pkg_info -Q seems to be failing.
Specifically, I tried

$ pkg_info -Q mate

...and also as root, to remind myself what the metapackage is [I have a
feeling it's just "mate" anyway] [EDIT: Metapackages? maybe I'm thinking of
FreeBSD]; but:

pkg_info -Q firefox also fails, despite the fact I just successfully
installed Firefox.

The relevant error is as follows:

Redirected to
https://cloudflare.cdn.openbsd/org/pub/OpenBSD/6.3/packages-stable/amd64
Can't locate object method "syslog" via package "OpenBSD::PkgInfo::State"
at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PackageRepository.pm line 302, <$fh> line 3.

Thanks,

Jeff.

Re: Syspatch failures?

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

On 3 March 2018 at 21:11, obsd <o...@vanwesten.net> wrote:

> Op 3-3-2018 om 22:07 schreef Jeffrey Joshua Rollin:
>
> Hi all,
>>
>> I've installed OpenBSD today (not new to it, or to the list, but I am a
>> chronic distro-hopper), and syspatch fails with the error message:
>>
>> syspatch: invalid URL configured in /etc/installurl
>>
>> All other software I've installed (including, but not limited to, zsh,
>> mate, libreoffice) seems to work. My /etc/installurl is as follows:
>>
>> https://www.mirrorservice.org/pub/OpenBSD/
>>
>> I would add that this is not the first time I've installed OpenBSD 6.2,
>> either - but it is the first time syspatch has failed, IIRC.
>>
>> I've no idea what other info might be helpful, but I'll be happy to
>> provide
>> it if asked.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff.
>>
>
> Trailing /? Shouldn't it be
>
> https://www.mirrorservice.org/pub/OpenBSD
>
> ?
>

Yes, that was it - the mirror list has trailing / 's, and  pkg_add,
pkg_info, etc., accept them, but syspatch doesn't, yet.

>
> Regards,
> Erik
>
> Jeff.

Re: Syspatch failures?

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

Yep, I can confirm that works. (Sorry Stuart, I forgot the first time that
Gmail is too stupid to post to misc@ automatically.)

On 3 March 2018 at 22:07, Jeffrey Joshua Rollin <jeff.rol...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Aha, that's great. Cheers.
>
> Jeff.
>
> On 3 March 2018 at 21:46, Stuart Henderson <s...@spacehopper.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-03-03, Jeffrey Joshua Rollin <jeff.rol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I've installed OpenBSD today (not new to it, or to the list, but I am a
>> > chronic distro-hopper), and syspatch fails with the error message:
>> >
>> > syspatch: invalid URL configured in /etc/installurl
>> >
>> > All other software I've installed (including, but not limited to, zsh,
>> > mate, libreoffice) seems to work. My /etc/installurl is as follows:
>> >
>> > https://www.mirrorservice.org/pub/OpenBSD/
>>
>> Remove the trailing /. Next release will be more lenient.
>>
>>
>>
>

Syspatch failures?

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

Hi all,

I've installed OpenBSD today (not new to it, or to the list, but I am a
chronic distro-hopper), and syspatch fails with the error message:

syspatch: invalid URL configured in /etc/installurl

All other software I've installed (including, but not limited to, zsh,
mate, libreoffice) seems to work. My /etc/installurl is as follows:

https://www.mirrorservice.org/pub/OpenBSD/

I would add that this is not the first time I've installed OpenBSD 6.2,
either - but it is the first time syspatch has failed, IIRC.

I've no idea what other info might be helpful, but I'll be happy to provide
it if asked.

Thanks,

Jeff.

Re: Using OpenBSD on a thinkpad?

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

I have an X230i and an E550, and as of 6.2, Open BSD works fine on both.

I'm not sure how kindly Open BSD and libreboot would take to  each other 
though, so if it was me I'd avoid using that one.

Jeff

⁣Sent from Blue ​

On 19 Feb 2018, 09:01, at 09:01, crimeangot...@nigge.rs wrote:
>
>Hey everyone, I am pretty stupid when it comes to less user friendly
>operating systems. I currently use slackware/windows and am thinking of
>using OpenBSD on either my thinkpad e420 or my libreboot t400. Are
>either supported(or at least possible to install on?) I’m sorry if this
>question has already been asked but I can’t really find any answers and
>the mailing list archive is barren as well. 
>Thanks!

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

[Jeffrey Joshua Rollin]

On 8 Feb 2018 23:23, "Steve Litt"  wrote:

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800
Charlie Eddy  wrote:

> hello misc,
>
> I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this
> mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of
> security.
>
> However, a programmer who I know personally and respect considers
> OpenBSD to be old-school, in a negative sense. He recommends Arch
> Linux as superior, because more new. Does the difference boil down to
> one's definition of free software, and then compliance with that
> definition?
>
> I have read up on this a lot, and this is a serious question. I have
> heard that it is unimportant what *nix you're on after a few years of
> using one or the other, in terms of functionality. I am interested in
> embedded devices. I think that bends the needle towards Arch, but the
> security of OpenBSD is also attractive. What considerations should I
> take into account?

If installability on embedded devices is a requirement, I think that
would rule out a whole bunch of BSDs and Linux distros.

About your friend: There's a logical fallacy called "Appeal to Novelty"
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty) If your experience is
anything like mine, household appliances installed in the 1980's tended
to last almost 20 years, whereas appliances in the 2010's tend to last
about six. Sometimes newer is better, sometimes it's not. Arch Linux
uses the relatively new systemd init system/OS controller/Desktop aid.
It's such a mess that nobody's ever been able to draw its block diagram,
complete with boxes and arrows.

My main OS right now is Void Linux, but when I used OpenBSD I was
impressed with how everything worked exactly the same, every single
time. This is subjective,  but I view OpenBSD as the most solid OS I've
ever run.

SteveT


Hardware support won't be as good as in Linux, but it's probably the BSD
with the greatest level of hardware support out of the box, for PCs, plus
it installs X11 out of the box (if you want); by default, though, OpenBSD's
implementation of X11 is primitive, if you're coming from Linux, but can be
made more user-friendly and attractive. WiFi support (more precisely
switching networks) is still a pain; and I've come to the conclusion that
I'm obsessed with fonts, because I seem to be the only one who thinks ALL
Unices' fonts suck out of the box, though they can be improved greatly in
Linux. I haven't yet got them looking great in OpenBSD, but maybe you'll
have better luck/won't care. I can't speak to security because I wouldn't
know a vulnerability if it bit me on the arse, but sometimes the stability
of (userspace) software can be overrated (GDM
for example can be unstable on my system, but then GNOME3 always is, and I
use GDM only under duress, because it's the best desktop manager available
on OPENBSD, IMO (the fact that I use MATE or XFCE, not the execrable GNOME,
as my desktop might be a factor in GDM's instability.

Oh, and proprietary or freemium software (even browsers like Chrome and
Vivaldi) are hard to come by.

 Jeff

PS if you're ONLY interested in embedded devices, try NetBSD too - it even
runs on toasters. (This used to be a joke, but now it really does.)


Steve Litt
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