Re: OT Was: Wanted: OpenBSD Systems Administrator
Adam wrote: Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO allowing employers to seek out OBSD admins for employment helps further encourage OBSD use. misc@ is not for encouraging openbsd use, that's what advocacy@ is for. Promoting the use of OpenBSD. Non-technical discussions in /misc/ often get shunted here. I could easily see someone thinking that posting for jobs here might not apply, bring as a job ad isn't *encouraging* the use. It feels more like the reverse of what you say. And I think you misread what the previous poster said it *helps* further encourage use it's not enourag*ing* use. I'll admit the difference is subtle, and is probably why those here have different opinions. His response was a bit rude, however at least the courtesy was made to attempt a reading on the rules page. He made the best decision he could given the information he had. So why can't there be a jobs@ or something similar? Is there a philosophical reason it hasn't been in place already that I'm overlooking? For one post every 3 years? Why can't job ads be posted on job ad sites where they belong? Adam So for this one post every 3 years, it gets this amount of anger towards it. Interesting. If it's just one post every 3 years, then why does this even matter? People should respond privately anyways. I'm failing to understand why this is such a big deal... I must be missing something. Kenny
Re: LiveCD
Passeur wrote: Hi, I am trying to build a live CD based on the official OpenBSD article. (http://www.openbsd-wiki.org/index.php?title=LiveCD) Ok, modified front page: http://www.openbsd-wiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Pagediff=1889oldid=1851 Sorry to cause the misunderstanding. As others have said, it's not an official website. Kenny
Re: OpenBSD 4.0 CD Set Package List
Kenneth Bond wrote: Hello, I am considering purchasing an OpenBSD 4.0 CD Set. I have been a user of OpenBSD for some time, but have recently moved to a location where my only internet connectivity option is 56K/V.90 dialup. At this point, an FTP install is not an option. Is there a published list of the packages that are included on the CD Set? I am hoping to configure an OpenBSD system that can be used for desktop applications, including multimedia, productivity, email and collaboration, etc. Please advise. Thanks for your help. Ken Bond What about using ports? This is how I get behind the barrier of the release date -- I just built what I needed from source. This should also help with bandwidth issue as well. --Kenny
OpenBSD Wiki
Dudes, Many months ago I started a website called OpenBSD-Wiki (located at http://www.openbsd-wiki.org). The orginal goal was pretty selfish: Document what it took to get my systems going so I wouldn't forget. I'm not a complete moron (eek! I hope!) , but I'm no where near as skilled as many on this list -- so I needed some documentation for myself. Wiki seemed to make the most sense, especially considering that many articles on the web are out of date and could use some minor (and sometimes major) adjustments. As I lurked the misc@ list, I found some pretty helpful things, emailed the offer off-list asking if their works can be placed on that site released under the BSD license and so far everyone I've asked has been kind enough to say yes. Anyone is welcome to create articles or create content they think is useful for other people to know (so long as either you or the original author will release it under the BSD license). As far as how thinks should be organized and all that, I haven't entirely thought that through and am open to suggestions. My orginal thoughts where to make it close to the Gentoo-Wiki project (located at: http://www.gentoo-wiki.org). I've been pretty busy lately and haven't had time to produce as many articles as I'd like but I'm also waiting for the 4.0 CD to arrive (it's already shipped and I have a tracking number! yay! I'm excited!) and I will update as many articles to that as possible. I lack design abilities, so any criticism is welcome. Well _any_ criticism is welcome. I'm trying to figure out a sane method to extract the articles into being a plain-text dump, so everyone can take copies if they need, once I get that figured out I'll post on the site. Those that have already contributed or allowed me to take their articles and place them their, I thank you very much and would like to say: You rock! One final thing, this is hosted off of my SBC DSL Business Elite line. This means I have 3-6mb down and 384-618 up (static IP's), so if the lines start getting clogged too hard then I'm willing to pay for some real hosting -- so no worries. --Kenny
Re: Subscription Model for OpenBSD CDs
stan wrote: On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:57:00PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 03:53:55PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote: On 8/26/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has the OpenBSD project ever considered offering a subscription to the OpenBSD CDs. Yes we have considered it, and no, we won't be doing it. Understood. You consider it to be too risky. And you could have googled before you became the 50th person to ask the same question. Also understood. In fact, Martin made this point quite succinctly. I've since picked myself up, dusted off, and vowed not to make the same mistake again. I'm considering doing this on my own, unofficially. I'd be ordering and remailing official CDs, of course. And being in the US, I'd only be able to ship within the US. If I got in early on the pre-orders, which I've been doing anyway, I could get them back out in a timely fashion. Also, does anyone know if the existing BSD subscription places are using official CDs? If so, I'd only be duplicating effort. Is there much interest in this? Back when Walnut Creek was doing the FreeBSD CD's, I had a subscrition to those. Even though I always downloaded, I continued this, as I assumed the money went to the project. I'd strongly consider doing this for OpenBSD, if it was possible to do. If you prefer to download but would like to contribute to the project then consider using the recurring donations (goes through PayPal). More info at http://openbsd.org/donations.html
Re: CD Creation question
Jeff Quast wrote: On 7/18/06, Rob Baldassano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Is there anyone out there that could provide me with the instructions on how to create a bootable CD from Windows, so that I can boot from the CD, and have the install media on the CD itself as well? You can burn cd39.iso from most any cd burning software in windows. Unfortunately, a brand new $200 version of microsoft windows does not offer this most simple of task by default. (Welcome to 1993) I only know of commercial software that supports this. However, some of these come with free 30 day trials that may meet your needs. I would start at one of those massive shareware sites and start downloading software in the 'cd burning' software category. Hopefully the windows partition you are using to burn the CD is the one you will delete and install OpenBSD over, as it will probably become flooded with privacy-invasive software (ad-ware)... cdburnerxppro Link: http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ I suggest using the latest stable as the beta seem to be a little flakey still. Kenny
Re: BOB is dying.
Stephen Bosch wrote: Tim Donahue wrote: I swear, spam keeps getting wierder and wierder My own theory is that these are messages designed (by the spammers) to test spam filters. I think they are banking on the idea that users will flag it as spam and thusly add legit words to the potentially bad words list. I think this because every time I get an email like this, all the words are spelled correctly. Kenny
Re: News From HiFn
Daniel Ouellet wrote: [snipp'ed] Agreed as well. It's just fair to see them presented as it is. Somewhat Friendly is really where they are now, so would be fair to do that. Changed. Reference the hifn article as to why (which was updated by the time I got there) their status was upgraded. Kenny
OpenBSD hardware router
I'm looking for something that which I can slap OpenBSD 3.8 on and use it as a router. This will be used for a house (~ 4 people) and I'm looking for something small in form factor and that which doesn't run hot because it will run in a closet. I'm seeking to replace our D-Link router because it seems to lock up on an occasion and this seem like a fun little project to do. I'd also like it to have wireless capabilities as well. Anyone know where I can start looking or can point in a direction to start? Or are my hopes too high and I should just get a PC and make it happen that route (pun not intended)? Kenny Mann
Re: OpenBSD hardware router
Matthias Kilian wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 03:50:08PM -0500, Jason Dixon wrote: You must be new around here. :) http://www.soekris.com Those boards are just cute (I got a net4801 from Wim last year), but I wish they were a little bit cheaper. Ciao, Kili I'm surfing those links and they seem to be exactly what I was seeking. Thanks! Kenny Mann
Re: please: openbsd mailing list request for patch/errata announcement
Michael Erdely wrote:
On 1/16/06, Didier Wiroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you think it would be possible to send a small mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] when there are patches available?
This has been discussed many times. See the archives.
Subscribe to the http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=errata RSS feed.
Check it daily.
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I'm curious, then what is the security-announce for?
Is their a certain type of announcements it's for?
If all else fails, could just write a script to run diffs on the errata
page.. if it's different than it was X {minutes,hours} again, send out
an email to whomever... or even to the security-announce list, if deemed
appropriate.
Or get an RSS agent and have it send you mails when stuff is new...
Personally, I prefer getting a message saying Hey, you... monkey with
opposable thumbs... look at me.. I'm important...
Security Mailing List
I thought the security-announce mailing list would have sent an email out about the 3.8 errata, but I was wrong. I found out on undeadly.org. Is their such an OpenBSD mailing list that would send an email out when posts are added onto the errata? If so, it might be nice to place a link somewhere on the errata page showing where someone can sign up (or perhaps the FAQ?). Or am I just that blind and didn't/can't see it? Thanks! Kenny Mann
