Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruno Carnazzi Sent: 18 October 2006 05:03 PM To: misc Subject: Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD! Theo president ! :) Since Theo is Canadian, shouldn't it be Theo PM! ?
Re: Oldest Server you run
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Falk Husemann Sent: 12 October 2006 08:55 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Oldest Server you run Hello List! We're trying to put an old server to good use again and would like to know what's exactly the oldest machine running OpenBSD? As machine we defined something with processor, ram, network, hard disk and a connection to the internet. So no Newton or toaster (at least not if there's no disk being toasted). Thank you in advance, Falk Not that old, but I have an old Compaq Contura 430c (486 DX4-100) that I use to reprogram switches.
Re: Simple Networking Newbie questions
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Girish Venkatachalam Sent: 12 October 2006 11:57 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Simple Networking Newbie questions Friends, I am a newbie to certain real world networking concepts since I have no hands on experience in network deployments. And OpenBSD man pages unfortunately are not clear enough for me. Perhaps I am daft but I would gladly rewrite them for the benefit of ppl like me... I also read FreeBSD man pages, googled and read wikipedia too. Still no joy. Anyway I have few more questions, but let me begin with these. 1) What exactly is the difference between tun(4), gif(4) and gre(4) interfaces? As I understand it, gre is a Cisco tunneling mechanism for generic IP encapsulation. tun is a generic network device useful for setting up tunnels, but how? And gif can be used for setting IP in IP tunnels. But frankly I am not able to get any further with these statements. How are these interfaces used in practice? I know that gre is useful for PPTP traffic. And that gif can be used for IP in IP for instance, something like IPsec. What about tun(4)? Is it used as a tunnel interface mechanism from user space? Cant you have IPsec without using gif(4)? You can , right? 2) My second question relates to vlan(4). Is my understanding that you can extend ethernet segments logically across the Internet with vlans correct? I am sure there is much more to it. I am getting some idea from recent threads but I am interested in more practical anecdotes as to where it is really useful. I guess vlans can also be used to split an ethernet broadcast domain into multiple subnets. Does it help to do this for running pf on VLAN bridges? Please be gentle if my questions are outright nonsensical. I think my other doubts on bridging, trunking etc. are not that troublesome since I seem to have an idea about them. Many thanks to everyone for taking time to read my e-mail. regards, Girish I use tun for ppp and gprs connections.
Re: Simple Networking Newbie questions
-Original Message- From: Girish Venkatachalam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 October 2006 01:16 PM To: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Simple Networking Newbie questions On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:49:58PM +0200, Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu wrote: I use tun for ppp and gprs connections. A lil bit elaboration with details will help I am sure. How exactly do you go about it? Thanks. If I get enough info I promise to send a man page patch. That is why I ask regards, Girish Read through the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.sample file. It is well commented. You are supposed to copy it to /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and make your own modifications. Also take a look at man ppp. Basically there is a default section that sets up your modem, and a selection of dial sections below to choose from. I prefer the pmdemand section, so when I dial, I type 'ppp -auto pmdemand' as root and the system automatically creates a tun device for me.
Re: Version 4.0 release
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ropers Sent: 10 October 2006 12:22 AM To: Greg Thomas Cc: OpenBSD Subject: Re: Version 4.0 release Would you like some cheese? Greg Venezuelan Beaver Cheese? The Cat's eaten it!
Re: Self Restraint (Was: Re: GPL = BSD + DRM [Was: Re: Intel's Open Source Policy Doesn't Make Sense])
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
Han Boetes
Sent: 07 October 2006 09:02 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Self Restraint (Was: Re: GPL = BSD + DRM [Was: Re:
Intel's
Open Source Policy Doesn't Make Sense])
You know what I can't stand... Bullying! That's what's going on
here.
I'm the operator on an #openbsd channel, and I know exactly what
happens when somebody start ranting about how {GPL, Windows,
Linux, FreeBSD,...} sucks. Another guy is a happy user and before
you know it you have a flamewar going on.
So whenever somebody brings up a sensitive subject like that, I
say something like `This channel is for people who love OpenBSD,
not for people that hate XXX'
That's how I keep the peace, the channel friendly and the
discussions interesting.
And I do the same the other way around when people start whining
about BSD related stuff.
But when I defend with rational arguments and in a polite way the
merrits of the GPL percieved as by many developers and companies
_without_ insulting the BSD license, but merely by pointing out a
practical problem, I get flamed, insulted, threatened and called a
troll!
That... is bullying! That is a what people do who _want_ flamewars
and insults to keep flying.
So you think the GPL is fair game? Go ahead, remove all the
GPL-licensed code from OpenBSD!
All I want is respect for the opinion the other guys, just like I
defend *BSD when someone starts ranting against it!
# Han
Han.
Verskoon die dialek, ek is Afrikaans.
Jou woorde was Restrictions on freedom is a good thing.
Jy moet erken dai hierdie woorde in opposisie is met die BSD lisensie.
Dit is hoekom almal vir jou kwaad is, omdat dit duidelik is dat jy die
GPL bo die BSD lisensie ag.
Die hele rede vir die bestaan van BSD is die lisensie.
Jou woorde skep beelde van OpenBSD onder 'n GPL lisensie, en dit word
hewig teengestaan hier.
Die ander lede baklei slegs vir iets waaring hulle glo, die basis van
die werk wat hulle doen. Wees geduldig en dink oor wat jy se.
Marius.
Re: DVD to distribute OpenBSD Packages (Re: about signing OpenBSD packages)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joachim Schipper Sent: 01 September 2006 03:12 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: DVD to distribute OpenBSD Packages (Re: about signing OpenBSD packages) On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 09:50:34AM +0800, Tito Mari Francis Esca?o wrote: On 9/1/06, Madars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I do trust the packages that are on the CDs, but as space is limited, you can't put all of them there. Does the OpenBSD project consider the use of DVD to distribute the package set on a per architecture basis? IMHO can be in line with the project's objective of distributing the OS (and packages?) in CD (or in this case, DVD) sets to support the project. On the buyer's side, it guarantees the reliability/authenticity of the packages; on the project's side, it's a new way of distributing OS support applications. Now *that* would suck. Most of my i386 boxes won't read a DVD, and I'm fairly certain that getting a sparc to read a DVD isn't as easy as making a i386 do the same. Joachim At least it could be a choice. Pay a little more and get a cd set on DVD instead of cd. I'm sure it would be no problem to set up a local ftp server for those sparc boxes either. One thing's for sure, there are some places where downloading the remaining packages from the net is still a financially prohibitive exercise,
Re: DVD to distribute OpenBSD Packages (Re: about signing OpenBSD packages)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul de Weerd Sent: 01 September 2006 04:12 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: DVD to distribute OpenBSD Packages (Re: about signing OpenBSD packages) On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 03:54:46PM +0200, Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu wrote: | At least it could be a choice. Pay a little more and get a cd set on DVD | instead of cd. I'm sure it would be no problem to set up a local ftp | server for those sparc boxes either. That's not a good plan - it would require two different sets increasing cost for the project. Combined sales wouldn't be as high as for one single set but suppliers would have to stock up on both anyway (costly). Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/ True. I didn't think of that.
Reading material on trunk0
Hi all I have tried to experiment with trunk (to see how it works) and I get this problem. I issue the command ifconfig trunk0 trunkport pcn0 trunkport pcn1 10.64.15.250 netmask 255.255.254.0 After that I expect my trunk0 to function as a network interface, but it (and my physical interfaces) can not send or receive anything. If I try to ping anyone I get the error message: device is busy. Note the unusual subnet. Is this a possible cause? In any case, what I really need is some more reading material on trunk. Does anyone have a howto, a case study or any other material I can use to add to the knowledge I have already gained from the man pages? Google has made me none the wiser Also let me know if I need to add any info to this post, dmesg, info on network structure etc. Thanks Marius Van Deventer Computer Technician Bytes Technology Group : Systems Integration Tel : +27 39 682 4202 | Fax : +27 39 682 4126 | Cell : +27 82 321 6491 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : www.btgroup.co.za http://www.btgroup.co.za Press Office :www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\mvdeventer\Application%20Data\Mic rosoft\Signatures\www.itweb.co.za\office\bytes Licensing : www.purelicensing.co.za file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\mvdeventer\Application%20Data\Mic rosoft\Signatures\www.purelicensing.co.za Bytes Systems Integration (Pty) Ltd : Registration No: 1995/012031/07 A subsidiary of Bytes Technology Group SA (Pty) Ltd, In association with KAGISO P O Box 4004, Umhlanga, 4350 ,55 Island Circle, Riverhorse Valley, Nandi Drive, South Africa. E-mail Disclaimer: http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp Or phone: (+27) (11) 205-7000 by Symantec Mail Security for the presence of any viruses. ** 0
entering custom AT commands into ppp.conf
Hi all. By asking this queston i admit that i have no idea how ppp.conf works. For a normal modem i am able to configure it fine, but for this problem i have to admit that i have no idea. I found some hits on google but nothing specific. I managed (finally) to get gprs working on OpenBSD using my Nokia 6680. Apart from some defalt route issues it works fine. But... I have to enter the init strings manually using minicom before i dial. i enter: ATZ and then AT+CGDCONT=1,IP,internet then i exit minicom with no reset (ctrl-a q) and dial. Obviously there HAS to be a way to include these in ppp.conf. All my attempts have failed. I'm sorry for the newbie-like question. Please direct answers to the list and flames to my private address :-) Cheers Marius Van Deventer Computer Technician Bytes Technology Group : Systems Integration Tel : +27 39 682 4202 | Fax : +27 39 682 4126 | Cell : +27 82 321 6491 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : www.btgroup.co.za outbind://44/www.btgroup.co.za | Press Office : www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes outbind://44/www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes | Licensing : www.purelicensing.co.za outbind://44/www.purelicensing.co.za Bytes Systems Integration (Pty) Ltd : Registration No: 1995/012031/07 A subsidiary of Bytes Technology Group SA (Pty) Ltd, In association with KAGISO P O Box 4004, Umhlanga, 4350 ,55 Island Circle, Riverhorse Valley, Nandi Drive, South Africa. E-mail Disclaimer: http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp Or phone: (+27) (11) 205-7000 by Symantec Mail Security for the presence of any viruses. ** 0 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: entering custom AT commands into ppp.conf
-Original Message- From: Stuart Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 June 2006 12:19 PM To: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: entering custom AT commands into ppp.conf By asking this queston i admit that i have no idea how ppp.conf works. I have to enter the init strings manually using minicom before i dial. AT+CGDCONT=1,IP,internet Obviously there HAS to be a way to include these in ppp.conf. All my attempts have failed. It's difficult to get the quoting just right. Would anyone like to commit this? Index: etc/ppp/ppp.conf.sample === RCS file: /data/cvsroot/OpenBSD/src/etc/ppp/ppp.conf.sample,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.21 ppp.conf.sample --- etc/ppp/ppp.conf.sample 9 Jun 2002 06:15:15 - 1.21 +++ etc/ppp/ppp.conf.sample 8 Jun 2006 10:12:24 - @@ -101,6 +101,23 @@ add default HISADDR enable dns +# To connect via a GPRS device (e.g. a mobile phone), it's often +# necessary to set the access-point name (in this case 'internet') +# which requires quotes in the dial string. This section shows +# the escaping required. +# +gprs: + set device /dev/cuaU0 + set dial ABORT ERROR ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ + \\ ATZ OK-ATZ-OK AT+CGDCONT=1,\\\IP\\\,\\\internet\\\ OK \\dATD\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT + set phone *99# + set speed 115200 + set login + set timeout 0 + set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 + add default HISADDR + enable dns + # Example segments # # The following lines may be included as part of your configuration Thanks Stuart. This works for me. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: entering custom AT commands into ppp.conf
-Original Message- From: Stuart Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 June 2006 04:17 PM To: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: entering custom AT commands into ppp.conf hmmm. Was right the first time with *99# - not sure why you needed *99\# then Marius... When I tried *99# my phone's display read Dialling *99 and then Disconnecting *99 shortly after. Changing it to *99\# results in the phone simply connecting without any message at all. The only change is the double arrow icon in the corner telling you you're connected (nokia 6680). After that, I can browse the web, ping sites etc... It is probably a quirk of the service provider. Each provider probably has a different number. Some users are required to enter a Pin number command to activate the phones, others need usernames and passwords. I just needed the number and the at+ command that chooses the right acess point. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Sendmail configurations
OK the first thing I would check is rc.conf, to see which sendmail config file you are loading. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SkyBlueshoes Sent: 16 May 2006 08:15 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Sendmail configurations I've just installed OpenBSD 3.8...my first ever *nix. I've got most up and running, but I'm having problems recieving email. I followed the guidelines on this page http://www.nomoa.com/bsd/mailServer.htm to the letter. All the localhost tests work, but when I try to send a test message from out of the domain I never get it. Also, I am not sure what my domain would be, but I tried sending to both [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] skyblue.mine.nu is my registered domain name, but the full name of my server is, as you'd guess, server.skyblue.mine.nu. I would gladly appreciation the suggestions as I'm not getting any errors, nor am I getting any mail... SkyBlueshoes [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
OpenBSD resellers
Hi all. Are there any OpenBSD resellers in Africa? If not, how must interest would there be if someone were to start one? How many of you would order your Disc from an African reseller? Any other African users here? Marius Van Deventer Computer Technician Bytes Technology Group - Systems Integration Tel : (+27) (39) 682-4202 | Fax: (+27) (39) 682-4126 | Cell : (+27) 82-321-6491 Web : www.btgroup.co.za | Press Office : http://www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes | Licensing : http://www.purelicensing.co.za/ www.purelicensing.co.za Bytes Systems Integration (Pty) Ltd : Registration No: 1995/012031/07 A subsidiary of Bytes Technology Group SA (Pty) Ltd, In association with KAGISO P O Box 5905, Halfway House, 1685, Midrand; Bytes Business Park, Block B, 241 Third Road, Halfway Gardens, Midrand, South Africa E-Mail Disclaimer: blocked::http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp or phone: (+27) (11) 205-7000 by Symantec Mail Security for the presence of any viruses. ** 0 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?
Roberto Pereyra wrote: I have better luck using pkgsrc (www.pkgsrc.org) than OpenBSD ports. There are more easy to upgrade. As someone once said USER: Your software does not suit my needs, I am going elsewhere. DEVELOPER: Promise? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Reminder about the X Aperture
Maybe the team should consider this for the OpenBSD 4.0 artwork. Maybe with a tagline like The Admin who could not read or Annie get your Glasses. OR, (in light of so many users who expect list members to hold their hands) it could say something about the value of man pages. I'm sure any new user who sees that on his new CD jewel case will think twice before posting silly questions. -Original Message- From: Robert Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2006 04:11 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Reminder about the X Aperture Therefore, after 3.9, that default for the install script question is being changed to no. I am sure this will at least double the number of I installed OpenBSD and X11 won't work questions on this mailing list. But it sounds like a good change in the interest of security. Thanks, Robert [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
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trouble with lists
Anyone else having trouble reading lists or opening www.openbsd.org? For some reason i cannot even open the web page no matter what pc i try, from home or work. If anyone has an idea please email me privately since i cannot see the list. Thanks Marius Van Deventer Computer Technician Bytes Technology Group - Systems Integration Tel : (+27) (39) 682-4202 | Fax: (+27) (39) 682-4126 | Cell : (+27) 82-321-6491 Web : www.btgroup.co.za | Press Office : http://www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes | Licensing : http://www.purelicensing.co.za/ www.purelicensing.co.za Bytes Systems Integration (Pty) Ltd : Registration No: 1995/012031/07 A subsidiary of Bytes Technology Group SA (Pty) Ltd, In association with KAGISO P O Box 5905, Halfway House, 1685, Midrand; Bytes Business Park, Block B, 241 Third Road, Halfway Gardens, Midrand, South Africa E-Mail Disclaimer: blocked::http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp or phone: (+27) (11) 205-7000 by Symantec Mail Security for the presence of any viruses. ** 0 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: trouble with lists
Never mind all. As I sent this away, everyting suddenly came right. Who knows? Cheers -Original Message- From: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Sent: 14 March 2006 08:07 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: trouble with lists Anyone else having trouble reading lists or opening www.openbsd.org? For some reason i cannot even open the web page no matter what pc i try, from home or work. If anyone has an idea please email me privately since i cannot see the list. Thanks Marius Van Deventer Computer Technician Bytes Technology Group - Systems Integration Tel : (+27) (39) 682-4202 | Fax: (+27) (39) 682-4126 | Cell : (+27) 82-321-6491 Web : www.btgroup.co.za | Press Office : http://www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes | Licensing : http://www.purelicensing.co.za/ www.purelicensing.co.za Bytes Systems Integration (Pty) Ltd : Registration No: 1995/012031/07 A subsidiary of Bytes Technology Group SA (Pty) Ltd, In association with KAGISO P O Box 5905, Halfway House, 1685, Midrand; Bytes Business Park, Block B, 241 Third Road, Halfway Gardens, Midrand, South Africa E-Mail Disclaimer: blocked::http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp or phone: (+27) (11) 205-7000 by Symantec Mail Security for the presence of any viruses. ** 0 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: openbsd's future plans?
-Original Message- From: STeve Andre' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 February 2006 01:40 AM To: Diana Eichert Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: openbsd's future plans? On Wednesday 08 February 2006 04:20, Diana Eichert wrote: On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Miod Vallat wrote: i think we should rewrite the kernel in java since it has good support for threads. Remember we opted for C++ during c2k2 (or was it c2k3), but not until ddb has proper name demangling code. Miod I cast a vote for re-writing the kernel in Ruby because of it's robust threads implementation. You are misled, Diana. The kernel should be written in SNOBOL4. --STeve Andre' Intercal!!! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc
HI All I did a google search and found a little info, but nothing concise. Maybe I used the wrong parameters, I dunno... Anyway, my question. Have any of you had any success connecting a mobile phone to openbsd, using it as both a storage device and a gprs/3G modem? From what I could gather, I know that I am supposed to link the phone to ppp0 somehow and pass it AT commands, but I found no details. As for the storage question, some phones I tested showed up as umass0 devices and automatically became /dev/sd0 (my disks are all wd*). On mounting /dev/sd0c I was informed that the file system was unknown. Dead end there. Other phones (like my Nokia 6680) did not get that far. It showed up as ugen0 meaning that the system could not supply a specific driver for it. Have not progressed much beyond that. I am willing to accept that some phone models just do not offer umass capability, but I would really like to get the gprs modem thingy working. Anyone have any idea of where I could do some further reading on the subject? Thanks Marius Van Deventer [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc
Just after I sent this mail, I did another search. Guess what I found? Anyways guys, disregard my question for now. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Sent: 14 December 2005 01:54 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc HI All I did a google search and found a little info, but nothing concise. Maybe I used the wrong parameters, I dunno... Anyway, my question. Have any of you had any success connecting a mobile phone to openbsd, using it as both a storage device and a gprs/3G modem? From what I could gather, I know that I am supposed to link the phone to ppp0 somehow and pass it AT commands, but I found no details. As for the storage question, some phones I tested showed up as umass0 devices and automatically became /dev/sd0 (my disks are all wd*). On mounting /dev/sd0c I was informed that the file system was unknown. Dead end there. Other phones (like my Nokia 6680) did not get that far. It showed up as ugen0 meaning that the system could not supply a specific driver for it. Have not progressed much beyond that. I am willing to accept that some phone models just do not offer umass capability, but I would really like to get the gprs modem thingy working. Anyone have any idea of where I could do some further reading on the subject? Thanks Marius Van Deventer [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc
-Original Message- From: Jonathan Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2005 02:14 PM To: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:54:19PM +0200, Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu wrote: HI All I did a google search and found a little info, but nothing concise. Maybe I used the wrong parameters, I dunno... Anyway, my question. Have any of you had any success connecting a mobile phone to openbsd, using it as both a storage device and a gprs/3G modem? From what I could gather, I know that I am supposed to link the phone to ppp0 somehow and pass it AT commands, but I found no details. As for the storage question, some phones I tested showed up as umass0 devices and automatically became /dev/sd0 (my disks are all wd*). On mounting /dev/sd0c I was informed that the file system was unknown. Dead end there. It is more likely /dev/sd0i what does disklabel sd0 say? Unfortunately my friend wanted his phone back:-) Other phones (like my Nokia 6680) did not get that far. It showed up as ugen0 meaning that the system could not supply a specific driver for it. Have not progressed much beyond that. I am willing to accept that some phone models just do not offer umass capability, but I would really like to get the gprs modem thingy working. It is likely some kind of USB serial device, supply some more details like the output of usbdevs -v and we will see what we can do. As requested, with my nokia 6680: Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), Intel(0x8086), rev 1.00 port 1 addr 2: full speed, power 100 mA, config 1, Nokia 6680(0x041e), Nokia(0x0421), rev 0.00 port 2 powered I have figured out (more or less) how to name the mobile phone. I think it is /dev/ugen0.00 . I have gotten ppp to address it but the error reads - ugenpoll: no edesc. Once I figure out what that means I should have a better idea of what's going on. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc
-Original Message- From: Joachim Schipper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2005 02:30 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:07:13PM +0200, Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu wrote: Just after I sent this mail, I did another search. Guess what I found? Anyways guys, disregard my question for now. Thanks. Nah, my guess failed. Could you post your solution, or, if it is already in the archives/on the web, a link to the relevant place? It will help the next one with the same problem who searches the archive. Joachim No solution. I simply found some pointers...:-) A lot of people have done this it seems, but with serial cables, not USB. Also I will have to contact my service provider for some of those parameters. I am currently stuck on this error: ugenpoll: no edesc Anyone have any idea what it means? I know it has something to do with USB itself. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc
Thanks everyone for trying to help. I think that I will simply have to wait until the right driver becomes available one day. Either that or use a different phone and try again. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Sent: 14 December 2005 03:31 PM To: Joachim Schipper; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc -Original Message- From: Joachim Schipper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2005 02:30 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:07:13PM +0200, Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu wrote: Just after I sent this mail, I did another search. Guess what I found? Anyways guys, disregard my question for now. Thanks. Nah, my guess failed. Could you post your solution, or, if it is already in the archives/on the web, a link to the relevant place? It will help the next one with the same problem who searches the archive. Joachim No solution. I simply found some pointers...:-) A lot of people have done this it seems, but with serial cables, not USB. Also I will have to contact my service provider for some of those parameters. I am currently stuck on this error: ugenpoll: no edesc Anyone have any idea what it means? I know it has something to do with USB itself. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc
-Original Message- From: Stuart Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2005 04:16 PM To: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc --On 14 December 2005 15:30 +0200, Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu wrote: A lot of people have done this it seems, but with serial cables, not USB. A lot of USB cables for phones (especially third-party ones) include standard USB-serial adapters attaching to ucom(4), often using a Prolific chip supported by uplcom(4). Some cables which aren't supported are likely to use the same chips but with different device-id so they're not automatically recognised. In these cases, it can be easy to support them (especially if you know who makes the chip). N.B. some phones which come with a USB connecter cannot be used for GPRS, with these it's usually only possible to access the phone memory over USB. In those cases, sometimes a different 'data cable' is available, but often you need to use bluetooth or irda instead. There is also such a thing as a bluetooth-rs232 adapter (requiring no OS support), but you probably won't like the price, and I don't know how compatible they are with phones. I am currently stuck on this error: ugenpoll: no edesc Anyone have any idea what it means? I know it has something to do with USB itself. edesc = endpoint descriptor, but knowing this won't help you. Your device is attached by ugen, a generic driver that allows programs to talk to USB devices that don't have a real driver. But those programs need to know how to talk to the device, you can't just use it as a tty and run ppp over it. First, I think you should confirm the phone really can do GPRS over USB. No point wasting time trying to make it work, if it's impossible. The phone can do gprs over USB on windows using software supplied by Nokia. It creates a netword card in XP network connections. To connect you simply activate the network card. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc
-Original Message- From: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Sent: 14 December 2005 04:39 PM To: 'Stuart Henderson'; misc@openbsd.org Subject: RE: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc -Original Message- From: Stuart Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2005 04:16 PM To: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting Nokia (and other) phones to a pc --On 14 December 2005 15:30 +0200, Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu wrote: A lot of people have done this it seems, but with serial cables, not USB. A lot of USB cables for phones (especially third-party ones) include standard USB-serial adapters attaching to ucom(4), often using a Prolific chip supported by uplcom(4). Some cables which aren't supported are likely to use the same chips but with different device-id so they're not automatically recognised. In these cases, it can be easy to support them (especially if you know who makes the chip). N.B. some phones which come with a USB connecter cannot be used for GPRS, with these it's usually only possible to access the phone memory over USB. In those cases, sometimes a different 'data cable' is available, but often you need to use bluetooth or irda instead. There is also such a thing as a bluetooth-rs232 adapter (requiring no OS support), but you probably won't like the price, and I don't know how compatible they are with phones. I am currently stuck on this error: ugenpoll: no edesc Anyone have any idea what it means? I know it has something to do with USB itself. edesc = endpoint descriptor, but knowing this won't help you. Your device is attached by ugen, a generic driver that allows programs to talk to USB devices that don't have a real driver. But those programs need to know how to talk to the device, you can't just use it as a tty and run ppp over it. First, I think you should confirm the phone really can do GPRS over USB. No point wasting time trying to make it work, if it's impossible. The phone can do gprs over USB on windows using software supplied by Nokia. It creates a netword card in XP network connections. To connect you simply activate the network card. Gaaah!! I meant modem! To activate, you simply use the dialup entry in XP network connections. Sorry, caffeine levels running low.. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
OpenBSD mirrors
HI. Does anyone here know of an OBSD mirror in South Africa other than ftp.is.co.za? They (for some reason) only allow access to registered clients, which involves purchasing one of their products first. Downloading from a site outside the country is very slow. Since my employer is an IS client i had the opportunity to try ftp.is.co.za. However, internet access is logged and i simply cannot keep downloading packages at work. I need some packages. Heck, if someone was brave enough to email them to me id be glad. Strangely, my employer has no trouble with large email attachments as long as they are 10Mb per mail. Thanks. Marius. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: OpenBSD mirrors
Maybe I'm making a mistake somewhere (I hope so actually). When I tried to access them I got a login. Anon access was rejected. On the web site it says ftp access is free to all registered IS clients. -Original Message- From: Stuart Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 October 2005 03:47 PM To: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD mirrors --On 25 October 2005 15:29 +0200, Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu wrote: They (for some reason) only allow access to registered clients, Seems to work from _outside_ RSA... I need some packages. Heck, if someone was brave enough to email them to me id be glad. Strangely, my employer has no trouble with large email attachments as long as they are 10Mb per mail. ftpmail? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: OpenBSD mirrors
Well now I feel pretty stupid... You're right of course !!! Thanks for helping me see this. I will leave it for a while and try later in the hope that the server is not so busy. Thanks :-) -Original Message- From: Stuart Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 October 2005 04:02 PM To: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Subject: Re: OpenBSD mirrors --On 25 October 2005 15:48 +0200, Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu wrote: Maybe I'm making a mistake somewhere (I hope so actually). When I tried to access them I got a login. Anon access was rejected. Too many users at the time, possibly? Sometimes ftp servers don't give useful error messages. On the web site it says ftp access is free to all registered IS clients. Perhaps that's for non-anonymous access? 54 [~]% ftp ftp.is.co.za Connected to ftp.is.co.za. 220 Welcome to Internet Solutions FTP service. Name (ftp.is.co.za:sthen): anonymous 331 Please specify the password. Password: ftp 230-### 230-# 230-# FTP.IS.CO.ZA 230-# 230-### 230- 230-This site now contains over 1.6TB of mirrors and 2TB of file storage. 230- 230-If you have any queries, please contact the FTP Administrators. 230- 230-We are accepting requests for new mirrors, please mail us with suggestion 230-and we will consider them. 230- 230- 230-FTP Admin 230-ftpadmin at is.co.za 230- 230 Login successful. Have fun. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp ls 500 Unknown command. 227 Entering Passive Mode (196,4,160,12,214,198) 150 Here comes the directory listing. lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp22 May 22 2003 Apache - mirror/www.apache.org/ lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp30 May 28 2003 FreeBSD - mirror/ftp.freebsd.org/FreeBSD drwxrwxr-x2 ftp ftp 512 May 18 2003 applications lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp40 May 18 2003 debian - mirror/ftp.debian.org/ftp.us.debian.org/ lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp27 Aug 01 2003 gnu - mirror/ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp16 May 18 2003 iesg - mirror/iesg.org/ lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp16 May 18 2003 ietf - mirror/ietf.org/ drwxrwxr-x3 ftp ftp 512 May 18 2003 internet lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp28 May 18 2003 internet-drafts - mirror/ietf-internet-drafts/ drwxrwxr-x4 ftp ftp 512 Sep 10 2004 linux -rw-r--r--1 ftp ftp 33996792 Oct 24 22:38 ls-lR.bz2 -rw-r--r--1 ftp ftp 46753914 Oct 24 22:28 ls-lR.gz drwxrwxr-x 45 ftp ftp 1024 Aug 19 13:06 mirror drwxrwxr-x3 ftp ftp 512 Sep 06 2004 mirrors drwxrwxr-x5 ftp ftp 512 May 18 2003 networking drwxrwxr-x2 ftp ftp 512 Sep 10 2004 packages drwxrwxr-x4 ftp ftp 512 Jul 15 2003 programming drwxr-xr-x2 ftp ftp 512 May 18 10:12 pub lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp23 May 18 2003 rfc - mirror/ftp.isi.edu/rfc/ drwxrwxr-x3 ftp ftp 512 May 18 2003 spool drwxr-xr-x2 ftp ftp 512 Sep 13 11:57 tech lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp27 Oct 13 06:53 ubuntu - linux/distributions/ubuntu/ drwxrwxr-x3 ftp ftp 512 May 18 2003 usenet lrwxr-xr-x1 ftp ftp17 May 22 2003 x - mirror/ftp.x.org/ 226 Directory send OK. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: OpenBSD's 10th birthday
Looks like I sent to the wrong list. Lets try this again... Happy Birthday from South Africa. Thanks for the best computing experience I've ever had! -Original Message- From: Theo de Raadt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2005 11:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OpenBSD's 10th birthday Now it is really OpenBSD's 10th birthday ;) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: OpenBSD's 10th birthday
Happy Birthday From South Africa! -Original Message- From: Theo de Raadt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2005 11:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OpenBSD's 10th birthday Now it is really OpenBSD's 10th birthday ;) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Text Editor
If you mean a word processor, then you have KOffice and AbiWord to choose from. You should probably be most comfortable with those. -Original Message- From: Joco Salvatti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 9/12/2005 3:49 PM To: Misc OpenBSD Cc: Subject:Text Editor Hi all. I'd like to know if anyone can tell me a good text editor that runs under X environment. I'd like to know a good one, since there is no OpenOffice port to OpenBSD. Thanks. -- Joco Salvatti Undergraduating in Computer Science Federal University of Para - UFPA web: http://salvatti.expert.com.br e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eu tinha uma vida antes de conhecer o computador
Re: Welcome to our Newsletter
What is this? Is someone trying to spam the list? -Original Message- From: Webmaster-list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 August 2005 02:47 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Welcome to our Newsletter Welcome to our Newsletter Please keep this email for later reference. Your email address has been added to the following newsletter(s): *group-9-26Aug To update your details and preferences please go to http://www.aheadsup.com/lists/?p=preferencesuid=9a383d20ed4f3 0df80bba687fe0f2676. If you do not want to receive any more messages, please go to http://www.aheadsup.com/lists/?p=unsubscribeuid=9a383d20ed4f30df80bba68 7fe0f2676. Thank you [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Could not read network Connection list
Hi All. I have searched Gogle for this problem and although this question has been asked many times, it seems like it has never been answered. My KDE on my OBSD 3.6 box has always been working fine. Suddenly today i get this on login: Could not read network connection list: /home/user/.DCOPserver_servername_clientname_0 Please chech if dcopserver is runing. Some have suggested doing chmod, chown and a host of other things on the home dir. None make sense to me since i have not changed anything on my box since i got it set up and KDE has been working without fail for 3 months. I am still a relative newbie and i do not know what other info to add. If there is anything anyone needs to see, i will supply. Thanks. Marius Van Deventer IT Support technician Bytes Technology Group : Systems Integration Tel : (+27) (39) 682-4202 Fax : (+27) (39) 682-4126 Cell : (+27) 82-321-6491 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page : http://www.btgroup.co.za/ www.btgroup.co.za Press Office : http://www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes Licensing : http://www.purelicensing.co.za/ www.purelicensing.co.za Bytes Systems Integration (Pty) Ltd : Registration No: 1995/012031/07 A subsidiary of Bytes Technology Group SA (Pty) Ltd, In association with KAGISO P O Box 4004, Umhlanga, 4350 10 Cranbrook Crescent, La Lucia Ridge Office Estate, Umhlanga Rocks, South Africa. DISCLAIMER: http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp Or phone: (+27) (11) 645-3600 0 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Could not read network Connection list
OK Hold everything. I'm not sure why, but my PF firewall seems to have something to do with this. (Goodness knows how, it's been working all ths time). All I can think is that I made some config error that is only causing me problems now. Not sure. In any case, my next little project will be to go through pf.conf with a fine tooth comb until I find the error. Thanks to all who replied. Cheers. -Original Message- From: Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu Sent: 22 August 2005 12:12 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Could not read network Connection list Hi All. I have searched Gogle for this problem and although this question has been asked many times, it seems like it has never been answered. My KDE on my OBSD 3.6 box has always been working fine. Suddenly today i get this on login: Could not read network connection list: /home/user/.DCOPserver_servername_clientname_0 Please chech if dcopserver is runing. Some have suggested doing chmod, chown and a host of other things on the home dir. None make sense to me since i have not changed anything on my box since i got it set up and KDE has been working without fail for 3 months. I am still a relative newbie and i do not know what other info to add. If there is anything anyone needs to see, i will supply. Thanks. Marius Van Deventer IT Support technician Bytes Technology Group : Systems Integration Tel : (+27) (39) 682-4202 Fax : (+27) (39) 682-4126 Cell : (+27) 82-321-6491 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page : http://www.btgroup.co.za/ www.btgroup.co.za Press Office : http://www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes Licensing : http://www.purelicensing.co.za/ www.purelicensing.co.za Bytes Systems Integration (Pty) Ltd : Registration No: 1995/012031/07 A subsidiary of Bytes Technology Group SA (Pty) Ltd, In association with KAGISO P O Box 4004, Umhlanga, 4350 10 Cranbrook Crescent, La Lucia Ridge Office Estate, Umhlanga Rocks, South Africa. DISCLAIMER: http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp http://www.altron.co.za/email.asp Or phone: (+27) (11) 645-3600 0 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: back and neck pain
man vertibrae (5) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2005 01:25 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: back and neck pain A friend told me about you- i have a' spondie'-l4-l5, that surgey helped a little, and 10 mos. later my car fell off the jacks, breaking my back-burst fracture of t-12, and aggrivating the 'spondie'. I have a lot of pain and percocets have helped, can you help me? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: back and neck pain
Percussive Maintenance :-) -Original Message- From: Richard Welty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2005 01:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: back and neck pain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A friend told me about you- i have a' spondie'-l4-l5, that surgey helped a little, and 10 mos. later my car fell off the jacks, breaking my back-burst fracture of t-12, and aggrivating the 'spondie'. I have a lot of pain and percocets have helped, can you help me? here's something that works for me. get a friend to help, preferably a big friend who works out. give them a baseball bat, and have them start battering you about the head and neck with it. i guarantee you won't notice the back pain any more. hope this helps, richard -- Richard Welty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Averill Park Networking Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security Well, if you're not going to expect unexpected flames, what's the point of going anywhere? -- Truckle the Uncivil [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Kernel PPPoE is dieing...
If it always dies after a set number of days, maybe you can issue a command from cron to either restart the connection or reboot the pc automatically? -Original Message- From: Felipe Mesquita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 August 2005 02:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Kernel PPPoE is dieing... Hi List, I4m using OpenBBSD 3.7 as a (basicly) web, mail and gateway server. I have 2 network devices, one for DSL connection and other to my localnet. Ok.. When i turn my server on, it get all up and running automaticly, including the ADSL connection. It connects to my ADSL service, authenticates correctly, and get working.. Very nice, fast... This is part of the log: --- Aug 14 22:14:42 noronha /bsd: pppoe0: phase establish Aug 14 22:14:42 noronha /bsd: pppoe0: phase authenticate Aug 14 22:14:42 noronha /bsd: pppoe0: phase network --- But some days after, the connection dies, and it don4t restart alone, so that my server stays down until i restart it. The log show: --- Aug 14 21:54:48 noronha /bsd: pppoe0: phase dead --- When the server is up, and runnig connected, the 4ifconfig pppoe04 show my internet IP, etc. When the connection dies, the ip is 0.0.0.0 (of course) and i noticed that the retry number commonly is 10. So i think the connection is dieing 10 times, and then it do not restart. The question is: 4How do i set retry number to infinite, so that it always restart the connection as soon as it deads??4 Sorry the long text for the simple question, i didn4t wanted to leave any doubts.. =D Sooo... Thanks to all for reading... Felipe M. Oliveira [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Major Surprise with xdm on 3.7
-Original Message- From: Dave Feustel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 August 2005 07:26 PM To: Henning Brauer Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Major Surprise with xdm on 3.7 snip But I ran KDE by manually starting it for a long time. What is the point of a graphical login for only one user? I expected that when I enabled xdm, more than one user could login and run kde (I.e 4 copies of kde could be run simultaneously on my computer, 1 each at C0-C3. I clearly have misapprehended something wrt graphical login. What am I missing here? /snip That would be the job of remote X logins Read up on XDMCP. I use it to access my OBSD box from my windows machine across the room using X-Windows. Although it does not allow multiple graphical logins from one machibe, you can have multiple graphical logings to one server from many clients, Kinda like a Windows Thin Client (whitch is itself modeled on XDMCP to an extent). [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Writes to samba server very, very slow
Or you could disable apm0 and see if that helps. -Original Message- From: David Gwynne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 July 2005 01:57 PM To: Gary Clemans-Gibbon Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Writes to samba server very, very slow From: Gary Clemans-Gibbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your reply Tim. If anything it makes me feel worse. I was hoping it was something easily fixed. I just tried transferring a 50 Mb file to the OBSD samba box from win using SCP. Again very slow writes but much faster reads. The 50 Mb file took about 7 mins to transfer to the OBSD box and about 30 seconds to read from the OBSD box. it looks like you're running a release 3.7 kernel. it is possible that your machine suffers from the halt-halt idle loop bug that has been fixed in stable. could you try upgrading your kernel to the stable branch and trying again?
Re: Mirroring data over network with failover?
I'm guessing rsync. However your users might still lose a few minutes worth of work. Also, I'm guessing that the users will at least have to log in afresh after machine 1 fails. Are you trying to guard against data loss or just downtime? -Original Message- From: Dexter Fillmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2005 01:54 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Mirroring data over network with failover? Hello. Is there any way to mirroring data over network with failover in OpenBSD? I mean something like a raid-1 over network. Maybe with CARP in some way like it can handle pf with no data lost? Im looking for a solution that can handle that servers burns up with no broken and lost data for the users. /Dexter
OBSD user groups in South Africa?
Hi all. I googled but found nothing, so now I'm hoping you good folks can help me. Does anyone know of an OpenBSD (or General BSD) users group in South Africa? Thanks. Marius.
Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?
Well, the microsoft XP firewall log file is pf.log. -Original Message- From: Bob DeBolt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 June 2005 08:12 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls? Funny you should bring this up today I just received a phone call from a headhunter from 3000 miles away who is looking for couple of people who are opensource security savvy (closer to the engineering level and C proficient) and the conversation related to his client who is putting together firewall / VPN appliances based on OpenBSD and / or Linux. I would not have received the call had I not been involved in OpenBSD, likely numerous others have received similar calls. It is likely that there are scores of companies using OpenBSD code / ideas or portions thereof, that won't reveal what they are doing. Microsoft comes to mind. Any comments on the devices? Links would be appreciated. Bob
Re: heal the world, and misc@ [strictly coffeetime reading]
Hear hear. -Original Message- From: -f [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2005 02:50 PM To: OpenBSD Subject: heal the world, and misc@ [strictly coffeetime reading] dear list, a nice cup of coffee in front of me, and as a big fan of robert x., let me reflect a bit on the phenomenon called misc@openbsd.org... will try to keep it short. a couple of days ago, there was a quite big thread about optimized kernel builds. the caller had a point (all of us do, no matter how insignificant) but some of the answers were rude, childish and much more trollish than the actual post itself. that thread made me quite disgusted of misc@, the way people treat each other here. i am a teacher. i have a degree in teaching computer science. when you learn to be a teacher, you must sign up to basic psychology classes. obviously. teachers are role models. obviously. i don't teach at the moment, and i am not sure i will. i have found the fact that some of the kids will form habits, opinions, god-knows-what-else based on my personality quite scary and too big a responsibility. for now anyway. but i am also what some might call nerd/geek (blech) and am very familiar with the social implications of that. what people here mostly fail to realize is, how impersonal the internet really is. 99% of you don't know how old i am, how do i look like, what's my life like. same is true from my side towards you. thesis my point is, that you could be affecting(flaming) a developing personality, a 13 year old kid who just happens to be very intelligent, just installed the system and hurries off to the mailing list to satisfy his knowledge hunger without realizing all the mailing list nuances we see everyday (top posting, long signatures, not reading the documentation beforehand, posting the taboo questions). you just never know. (well, except darren reed ;-) /thesis it's all about experience. there is a baby born every second, and no one was born wise. everyone who uses email for more than 5 years knows just how elusive this form of communication is. how easy it is to misunderstand, misinterpret even a clearly worded email. advice 1. if a mail makes you angry, never respond rightaway. in the best case, sleep on it. in the worst case, go do something else, come back in an hour, read it again carefully and then respond. 2. if a mail makes you angry, in 85% of all cases, you should just delete it, and forget about it. i am quite amazed how hard it is for people to ignore stuff. you must exercise your ignore muscle. saves awful lot of time and energy. (i know, this mail is the opposite of this advice, but i slept on it ;-) 3. never assume that you are writing to an intelligent adult person. 4. remember that email is archived and one day you might read what you wrote years ago. you know, shame and stuff. 5. a whole planet could be reading what you wrote. you represent your family, upbringing, country, etc, and last but not least yourself. 6. chill out and relax. as one of my taglines say: good words cost no more than bad. /advice peace, -f ps. musical background for this mail provided by two lone swordsman and arovane -- en taro adun
Re: PPPoE Download Performance Woes
You could test fot the idle loop issue by temporarily disabling apm0 on boot. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong0 that apm0 is the source of the idle loop problem? -Original Message- From: Melameth, Daniel D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 June 2005 02:10 PM To: OpenBSD Misc Subject: Re: PPPoE Download Performance Woes I've been hesitant to touch -current especially after a hackathon. Any idea if the idle loop fix is in the i386 6/3 snapshot? Marco Peereboom wrote: Actually I looked at the dmesg and I am almost certain that this machine has the idle loop issue. Try -current or wait until brad@ commits the errata. Melameth, Daniel D. wrote: I've looked into this further and still cannot determine where the issue lies. Based on some advice, I unplugged the OpenBSD machine and setup a Windows XP machine instead. The Windows native PPPoE client was able to download at 5.5Mb/s and the OpenBSD machine was still stuck at 1.5Mb/s.
