Re: [openbsd] fwd: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/]
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:39:10 +0200 Aaron Glenn aaron.gl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:26 PM, pourl...@hushmail.com wrote: I do not wish to begin a troll-like thread, I just want the truth. yes you do; no you don't. no one cares; please go away. You are wrong, if you are unable to reply properly to my request, go away. I don't know, go out, do some sports. Didn't you just want to appear on misc@, if not you would not have kept misc in the discussion. There will always be OpenBSD haters, I want to be able to have a constructive, fact based discussion with them. Staying ignorant and saying go away just prove yourself ignorant and childish. If someone HAS valuable information, they can reply directly, without replying to misc. Thank you.
Re: [openbsd] fwd: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/]
On Thursday 24 June 2010 12:52:35 pourl...@hushmail.com wrote: On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:39:10 +0200 Aaron Glenn aaron.gl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:26 PM, pourl...@hushmail.com wrote: I do not wish to begin a troll-like thread, I just want the truth. yes you do; no you don't. no one cares; please go away. You are wrong, if you are unable to reply properly to my request, go away. I don't know, go out, do some sports. Didn't you just want to appear on misc@, if not you would not have kept misc in the discussion. There will always be OpenBSD haters, I want to be able to have a constructive, fact based discussion with them. Staying ignorant and saying go away just prove yourself ignorant and childish. If someone HAS valuable information, they can reply directly, without replying to misc. Thank you. The fact of the matter is that N groups of people can think of much the same things quite independantly of one another. This being the case, trying to claim 'we did it first!' is much like digging a hole in water. It's great exercise, amsuing for others to watch, but utterly useless. --STeve Andre'
Re: [openbsd] fwd: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/]
2010/6/24 STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu On Thursday 24 June 2010 12:52:35 pourl...@hushmail.com wrote: On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:39:10 +0200 Aaron Glenn aaron.gl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:26 PM, pourl...@hushmail.com wrote: I do not wish to begin a troll-like thread, I just want the truth. yes you do; no you don't. no one cares; please go away. You are wrong, if you are unable to reply properly to my request, go away. I don't know, go out, do some sports. Didn't you just want to appear on misc@, if not you would not have kept misc in the discussion. There will always be OpenBSD haters, I want to be able to have a constructive, fact based discussion with them. Staying ignorant and saying go away just prove yourself ignorant and childish. If someone HAS valuable information, they can reply directly, without replying to misc. Thank you. The fact of the matter is that N groups of people can think of much the same things quite independantly of one another. This being the case, trying to claim 'we did it first!' is much like digging a hole in water. It's great exercise, amsuing for others to watch, but utterly useless. --STeve Andre' Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else. The trick is the doing something else. Leonardo da Vinci -- Atentamente Andris Genovez Tobar / Sistemas http://www.crice.org
Re: [openbsd] fwd: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/]
pourl...@hushmail.com wrote: There will always be OpenBSD haters, I want to be able to have a constructive, fact based discussion with them. If someone HAS valuable information, they can reply directly, without replying to misc. Thank you. fact: you are some douchebag who is late to the argument fact: i am an openbsd supporter and user who does not want to listen to your whining valuable information: reallocate your time doing something that does not expose you to be a douchebag who is too worried about being painted a douchebag to use a real identity. posting from anonymous hushmail accounts is no longer such a great idea, have a look into how untrustworthy hushmail.com is when it comes to the authorities.
Re: [openbsd] fwd: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/]
* pourl...@hushmail.com pourl...@hushmail.com [2010-06-22 21:31]: Their official explanation sorry, but we have vacancies in our PR department, expect no official explanations anytime soon -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
Re: [openbsd] fwd: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/]
Hello misc, I was wondering if these accusations against OpenBSD were true, I doubt he is lying, maybe he is just not telling the whole truth. http://www.uaoug.org.ua/archive/msg01088.html The first part is irrelevant, Linux may have implemented the sysctl switch before OpenBSD. However, their min_map_addr was set to 0 by default for a long time. Which did lead to vulnerabilities in Linux. hey keep coming up with the same exact innovations others came up with years before them. Their official explanation for where they got the W^X/ASLR ideas was a drunk guy came into their tent at one of their hack-a-thons and started talking about the idea. They had never heard of PaX when we asked them in 2003. I do not wish to begin a troll-like thread, I just want the truth. Regards. Michel Antoine User
Re: [openbsd] fwd: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/]
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:26 PM, pourl...@hushmail.com wrote: I do not wish to begin a troll-like thread, I just want the truth. yes you do; no you don't. no one cares; please go away.
Re: [openbsd] fwd: [dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/]
Quote from theo : - our kernels have no bugs On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:26:18 +0200, pourl...@hushmail.com wrote: Hello misc, I was wondering if these accusations against OpenBSD were true, I doubt he is lying, maybe he is just not telling the whole truth. http://www.uaoug.org.ua/archive/msg01088.html The first part is irrelevant, Linux may have implemented the sysctl switch before OpenBSD. However, their min_map_addr was set to 0 by default for a long time. Which did lead to vulnerabilities in Linux. hey keep coming up with the same exact innovations others came up with years before them. Their official explanation for where they got the W^X/ASLR ideas was a drunk guy came into their tent at one of their hack-a-thons and started talking about the idea. They had never heard of PaX when we asked them in 2003. I do not wish to begin a troll-like thread, I just want the truth. Regards. Michel Antoine User -- @plus
