Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-17 Thread John Bond
Thanks for all the responses everyone it looks like the viking card
may be what im after.
 - it presents itself as an eathernet adapter
 - it has a cli to configure te onboard ADSL2+ router
 - the network adapter REL8139 is suported by the rl driver
Thanks all



Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-16 Thread Tom
Just a FYI.. I used to work for a company that was a reseller of
Sangoma DSL cards, and Sangoma have specifically stated time and time
again that they do not support BSD even though there are drivers for
it. However, this policy was for their S517s which were DSL Max. I
don't know if they have changed their policies since then.

Tom



Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-05-14, John Bond john.r.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 or possibly the
 Viking PCI ADSL2+ Modem Card -- 
 http://www.yawarra.com.au/pdfs/XC-P-ADSL2-V.pdf

theoretically the Viking card should be just fine. it is a standard
ADSL router glued onto a nic via a standard PHY, configured by telnet
or web.

not currently supported in OpenBSD, but Traverse's Solos card has
rather a lot more potential. it's a real (multiport) ADSL interface
and has an open source (GPL) driver and, afaict, is without blobs.



Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-15 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Rod Whitworth [glis...@witworx.com] wrote:
 
 I have no experience with either BUT I do know that the Viking just
 looks like a Realtek NIC to OpenBSD. That was done to make the
 provision of drivers unnecessary.

How do you provision the ATM PVC and ADSL characteristics without a driver to 
control the rest of the card?  Or troubleshoot the ADSL?



Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-15 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Fri, 15 May 2009 17:48:31 -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote:

Rod Whitworth [glis...@witworx.com] wrote:
 
 I have no experience with either BUT I do know that the Viking just
 looks like a Realtek NIC to OpenBSD. That was done to make the
 provision of drivers unnecessary.

How do you provision the ATM PVC and ADSL characteristics without a driver to 
control the rest of the card?  Or troubleshoot the ADSL?


Go to: http://www.traverse.com.au/downloadlist.php

Grab CLI Manual for the nitty-gritty stuff.
Grab the Windows manual nearest bottom of page for the info on using
the telnet or web interfaces in a better illustrated form.

Forget any ref to Wireless or VoIP. Those add-ons are not available
(here anyway (.au))

One day I might get one but I've got a bunch of blinkenlight ones that
are easy to swap in using clueless assistants if I'm on a trip and it
looks like a modem got zapped. Happened once. Preparation of a spare
was best pre-disaster plan I ever put in place!

Best,

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ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-14 Thread John Bond
Hello,

Im looking into bulding a home rourter device and my obvious OS choice
is OpenBSD however im strugeling to find an ADSL2+ pci cards which i
can use.  I have only managed to find to devices which may work

snagoma data card s519 --
http://www.sangoma.com/products_and_solutions/hardware/data_networking/s519.html
or possibly the
Viking PCI ADSL2+ Modem Card -- http://www.yawarra.com.au/pdfs/XC-P-ADSL2-V.pdf

does anyone have any expirence with these cards and know if they do
work with OpenBSD or know if they are better options

cheers



Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-14 Thread Russell Howe

John Bond wrote:

Hello,

Im looking into bulding a home rourter device and my obvious OS choice
is OpenBSD however im strugeling to find an ADSL2+ pci cards which i
can use.  I have only managed to find to devices which may work

snagoma data card s519 --
http://www.sangoma.com/products_and_solutions/hardware/data_networking/s519.html
or possibly the
Viking PCI ADSL2+ Modem Card -- http://www.yawarra.com.au/pdfs/XC-P-ADSL2-V.pdf

does anyone have any expirence with these cards and know if they do
work with OpenBSD or know if they are better options


These should work fine - the S518 presents itself as a special ADSL 
controller on the PCI bus, but AFAIK the 519 is actually an ethernet 
chip (Realtek 8139?) paired up with an ADSL modem on a PCI card, so all 
the computer sees is an ethernet card.


I think you configure the ADSL modem by telnetting to it through the 
ethernet card, but I'm not sure.


--
Russell Howe
rh...@bmtmarinerisk.com



Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-14 Thread John Bond
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Russell Howe rh...@bmtmarinerisk.com wrote:

 These should work fine - the S518 presents itself as a special ADSL
 controller on the PCI bus, but AFAIK the 519 is actually an ethernet chip
 (Realtek 8139?) paired up with an ADSL modem on a PCI card, so all the
 computer sees is an ethernet card.

 I think you configure the ADSL modem by telnetting to it through the
 ethernet card, but I'm not sure.

Thanks for your reposne russell,  what i have read agrees with your
response however i wasn't sure if the rel8139 chip was supported, i
couldn't find it on the hardware list



Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-14 Thread System Administrator
On 14 May 2009 at 21:29, John Bond wrote:

 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Russell Howe rh...@bmtmarinerisk.com wrote:
 
  These should work fine - the S518 presents itself as a special ADSL
  controller on the PCI bus, but AFAIK the 519 is actually an ethernet chip
  (Realtek 8139?) paired up with an ADSL modem on a PCI card, so all the
  computer sees is an ethernet card.
 
  I think you configure the ADSL modem by telnetting to it through the
  ethernet card, but I'm not sure.
 
 Thanks for your reposne russell,  what i have read agrees with your
 response however i wasn't sure if the rel8139 chip was supported, i
 couldn't find it on the hardware list
 

man 4 rl



Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-14 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 14 May 2009 20:55:22 +0100, John Bond wrote:

Hello,

Im looking into bulding a home rourter device and my obvious OS choice
is OpenBSD however im strugeling to find an ADSL2+ pci cards which i
can use.  I have only managed to find to devices which may work

snagoma data card s519 --
http://www.sangoma.com/products_and_solutions/hardware/data_networking/s519.html
or possibly the
Viking PCI ADSL2+ Modem Card -- http://www.yawarra.com.au/pdfs/XC-P-ADSL2-V.pdf

does anyone have any expirence with these cards and know if they do
work with OpenBSD or know if they are better options


I have no experience with either BUT I do know that the Viking just
looks like a Realtek NIC to OpenBSD. That was done to make the
provision of drivers unnecessary.

HTH
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Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-14 Thread John Bond
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com wrote:
 I have no experience with either BUT I do know that the Viking just
 looks like a Realtek NIC to OpenBSD. That was done to make the
 provision of drivers unnecessary.

I just got the following response from a tech at traverse.com.au which
inidicates it does work, thanks for he response

The Viking uses an RTL8139 NIC, so it appears as ethernet card and
will work with any O/S that supports the 8139.
So there will be no problems with xBSD, I've actually tried pfSense
with a Viking at home and it worked fine.



Re: ADSL2+ PCI card

2009-05-14 Thread John Bond
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:29 PM, John Bond john.r.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for your reposne russell,  what i have read agrees with your
 response however i wasn't sure if the rel8139 chip was supported, i
 couldn't find it on the hardware list

it has been pointed out to me that i cant read and it is clearly
stated that the  REL8139 chip is supported by the rl
(http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=rlarch=i386sektion=4)
driver.  It is clearly stated on the hardware compatibility list,
under the heading of RealTek 8129/8139-based adapters.  sorry for
not reading the manual