Re: C++ textbooks: recommendations?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need to learn C++, but do not know where to begin with textbooks or online docs. since, AFAICT, there are a great many skilled programmers on list, i would appreciate any recommendations that can be made about introductory and intermediate texts on C++. my motivation for asking this is to avoid purchasing texts that will sit on my shelf and collect dust. there are a great many introductory texts on nearly every subject that do just that and/or don't cover enough material in sufficient depth. are there any texts on best practices for writing exploit-free code? if you feel this is insufficiently openbsd related, please reply off-list to reduce chatter. cheers, jake I found http://www.icce.rug.nl/documents/cplusplus/ to be an excellent textbook. Another online source is http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html Peter
Re: C++ textbooks: recommendations?
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 05:50:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need to learn C++, but do not know where to begin with textbooks or online docs. since, AFAICT, there are a great many skilled programmers on list, i would appreciate any recommendations that can be made about introductory and intermediate texts on C++. There's a good collection of reviews on C/C++ books at the Association of C/C++ Users website: http://accu.org/index.php/book_reviews I've bought a couple books based on reviews at that site, and have been happy. (Note that I'm not a member or anything, I just found their website useful.) It's already been mentioned, but it's worth repeating: Bjarne Stroustrup's book, _The_C++_Programming_Language_ will teach you a *lot* about C++. I don't recommend it for beginners, though. It's pretty terse (but very thorough). my motivation for asking this is to avoid purchasing texts that will sit on my shelf and collect dust. there are a great many introductory texts on nearly every subject that do just that and/or don't cover enough material in sufficient depth. I hear that. Caveat: everyone learns differently. But, in general, I've found that reading existing code and writing sample programs is the best way to learn. I've also got a lot of good feedback from Usenet (comp.lang.c++ I think). The only problem, in my opinion, is that if you pick up some code and start looking over it, you may learn bad habbits or techniques. Thanks to the gaining popularity of the open source movement, there's more free example code out there than you could look at in your lifetime. The downside is, without experience, you don't know what's good and what's bad. Obviously you want to be looking at well-written code. Another idea might be to get involved in a C++ open source project (one that interests you obviously). Code up a feature, submit it, and see what kind of feedback you get. (This assumes that, like me, learn by doing is the best way for you to learn something.) are there any texts on best practices for writing exploit-free code? if you feel this is insufficiently openbsd related, please reply off-list to reduce chatter. Not that I've found. You can certainly find tons of tidbits and best practices by searching the web. General rule of thumb: buffer and array bounds problems are probably the number one killer in C and C++ applications. It would be awesome if the collective expertise of the OpenBSD development team could be captured and put into book form (and I suppose it is, to a degree, in the code itself). Even though OpenBSD is vanilla C, generally good practices in C are good practices in C++. Hope that helps! Matt
Re: C++ textbooks: recommendations?
I second Accelerated C++. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Biles Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2006 5:40 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: C++ textbooks: recommendations? Have a look at : Essential C++, Stanley B. Lippman, Addison-Wesley, ISBN: 0-201-48518-4 Accelerated C++, Andrew Koenig Barbara E. Moo, Addison-Wesley, ISBN: 0-201-70353-X They will get you programming faster than most books, which I personally find is a good thing :-) Good Luck. Si On 05/04/06, Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not suggest C++ for anything! On 4/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need to learn C++, but do not know where to begin with textbooks or online docs. since, AFAICT, there are a great many skilled programmers on list, i would appreciate any recommendations that can be made about introductory and intermediate texts on C++. my motivation for asking this is to avoid purchasing texts that will sit on my shelf and collect dust. there are a great many introductory texts on nearly every subject that do just that and/or don't cover enough material in sufficient depth. are there any texts on best practices for writing exploit-free code? if you feel this is insufficiently openbsd related, please reply off-list to reduce chatter. cheers, jake -- Simon Biles CISSP, OPSA, BS7799 Lead Auditor, MBCS
Re: C++ textbooks: recommendations?
Have a look at : Essential C++, Stanley B. Lippman, Addison-Wesley, ISBN: 0-201-48518-4 Accelerated C++, Andrew Koenig Barbara E. Moo, Addison-Wesley, ISBN: 0-201-70353-X They will get you programming faster than most books, which I personally find is a good thing :-) Good Luck. Si On 05/04/06, Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not suggest C++ for anything! On 4/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need to learn C++, but do not know where to begin with textbooks or online docs. since, AFAICT, there are a great many skilled programmers on list, i would appreciate any recommendations that can be made about introductory and intermediate texts on C++. my motivation for asking this is to avoid purchasing texts that will sit on my shelf and collect dust. there are a great many introductory texts on nearly every subject that do just that and/or don't cover enough material in sufficient depth. are there any texts on best practices for writing exploit-free code? if you feel this is insufficiently openbsd related, please reply off-list to reduce chatter. cheers, jake -- Simon Biles CISSP, OPSA, BS7799 Lead Auditor, MBCS
Re: C++ textbooks: recommendations?
I taught from C++ How to Program by Deitel Deitel and found it to be a good book. Anything from O'Reilly is typically gold. As has been mentioned, there is also the book written by the creator of the language. All in all, I recommend going to a book store and looking through the suggested books and see which one speaks to you most. best regards, Reid Nichol --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need to learn C++, but do not know where to begin with textbooks or online docs. since, AFAICT, there are a great many skilled programmers on list, i would appreciate any recommendations that can be made about introductory and intermediate texts on C++. my motivation for asking this is to avoid purchasing texts that will sit on my shelf and collect dust. there are a great many introductory texts on nearly every subject that do just that and/or don't cover enough material in sufficient depth. are there any texts on best practices for writing exploit-free code? if you feel this is insufficiently openbsd related, please reply off-list to reduce chatter. cheers, jake Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
C++ textbooks: recommendations?
i need to learn C++, but do not know where to begin with textbooks or online docs. since, AFAICT, there are a great many skilled programmers on list, i would appreciate any recommendations that can be made about introductory and intermediate texts on C++. my motivation for asking this is to avoid purchasing texts that will sit on my shelf and collect dust. there are a great many introductory texts on nearly every subject that do just that and/or don't cover enough material in sufficient depth. are there any texts on best practices for writing exploit-free code? if you feel this is insufficiently openbsd related, please reply off-list to reduce chatter. cheers, jake
Re: C++ textbooks: recommendations?
That's easy. Get the information for the guy who envisioned the language. _The C++ Programming Language_ Bjarne Stroustrup. Addison-Wesley, 2000 ISBN: 0201700735 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201700735/sr=1-1/qid=1144196764/ref=sr_1_1/104-6908142-7055123?%5Fencoding=UTF8s=books -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i need to learn C++, but do not know where to begin with textbooks or online docs. since, AFAICT, there are a great many skilled programmers on list, i would appreciate any recommendations that can be made about introductory and intermediate texts on C++. my motivation for asking this is to avoid purchasing texts that will sit on my shelf and collect dust. there are a great many introductory texts on nearly every subject that do just that and/or don't cover enough material in sufficient depth. are there any texts on best practices for writing exploit-free code? if you feel this is insufficiently openbsd related, please reply off-list to reduce chatter. cheers, jake
Re: C++ textbooks: recommendations?
I would not suggest C++ for anything! On 4/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need to learn C++, but do not know where to begin with textbooks or online docs. since, AFAICT, there are a great many skilled programmers on list, i would appreciate any recommendations that can be made about introductory and intermediate texts on C++. my motivation for asking this is to avoid purchasing texts that will sit on my shelf and collect dust. there are a great many introductory texts on nearly every subject that do just that and/or don't cover enough material in sufficient depth. are there any texts on best practices for writing exploit-free code? if you feel this is insufficiently openbsd related, please reply off-list to reduce chatter. cheers, jake
