Re: Core Dev?
On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 02:30:50PM +, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > - I honestly didn't intend to call him (Antoine) or anyone else for the > record, bad in anyway. I think my homework was lacking, that is the issue > here. But please don't bash me, for not knowing who Antoine is. You know I > could still be actually Antoine himself in disguise doing a public opinion > bath for himself :P (although I think, that is unbelievable at this point :D ) Even though Antoine has some past as an actor, there's no way he would write English in the same style that you do. There's something about having worked with someone for years, you can actually identify them with near certainty in their writings, and it takes a lot of skill to disguise your penmanship.
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On a second thought, I will just leave this matter here, before it unnecessarily escalates into a fireball. In the end, I will just clear a few things please: - I genuinely didn't knew much about the structure of openBSD community/team or how loved Antoine is by everyone around here in general. Nice to know it now. - I honestly didn't intend to call him (Antoine) or anyone else for the record, bad in anyway. I think my homework was lacking, that is the issue here. But please don't bash me, for not knowing who Antoine is. You know I could still be actually Antoine himself in disguise doing a public opinion bath for himself :P (although I think, that is unbelievable at this point :D ) - I will read up about the AMIs and will then look at Antoine's github then (as someone suggested), thank you. I tried talking to him, and yes he seems like the nice guy everyone made him out to be. - About AWS: It was not my first choice, nor did I call it a fortress anywhere. I knew about the drawbacks of the cloud, and I did heard about past breaches at AWS. In India, due to payment-option issues, a lot of services are still not available. Even AWS was not, until sometime ago, when they set-up a dedicated subsidiary to meet the regulatory requirements here. So given that my options are limited to begin with,.. in order to scratch one more out, I have to think twice. When Nick and others pointed out that the situation is very bad (akin to using Windows Xp today), I understood that I needed to review my opinion of AWS 'properly'. But before I go on to do that, it is reasonable to ask the people who know about it that if they have some nice starting pointers. - On that account, I will still welcome any suggestions regarding where to host my first openBSD machine securely. But please email me privately. It would be very kind of you (and helpful!). - Finally, I came here (to openBSD mailing lists) with a good opinion of what you guys (and gals) have created and continue to maintain. And I still continue to think good about everyone here. Thanks for the help everyone, and my apologies, if the slight silly nature of my query was not even enough for a chuckle. Peace or Salaam to everyone. Ahmad -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcB+EYCRD3irc5ItUgGgAA+v8H/08x20r6oA2NJfL3sCgt ps0oYknPsIPIXo2BI62wLYZSSHPCd/FB+eJJvl7dVlqTMws5LWNShpswJXKM kdXlU9L8XkkTRZUKOMmyh3NMdjx4O5cCG+Dkkklr9s45sOCswKMdzCQasZJH WDTD2zW/AmI54/tJmqFX9Qj/JishPGG3Gk9KMIN/q8oDICZCxzsYznbAZAaS QUY4MvHtdk0O1D2lTZ07a1iysZdPD4d/q2wKMZIXjfxEZ+orQVbDg3eQ23+s sX/yzyMqT82OQZkDRqN85OkpPYbLMR3vflLvvAma2N1hYGbbRf8jsQmQQR4c XCR9+hhNmo9+ae+G8VnlaRU= =YFxw -END PGP SIGNATURE- publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc Description: application/pgp-keys publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc.sig Description: PGP signature
Re: Core Dev?
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 07:29:31PM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 2:47 AM Marc Espie wrote: > > > (note that Antoine is the 2nd most prolific contributor to OpenBSD in terms > > of # of commits) > > > > Sure, Marc, but that's just because Antoine is such a high caliber mole > that 22 years and 22k commits in order to backdoor AWS systems that were > _clearly_ going to happen is completely believable. Hush, this is going to make the headlines on lwn or phoronix or the register. ;)
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 3:40 PM, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > Woah! Where did that come from? > > Isn't this a bit too much? Perhaps you could have just ignored it Theo? > > Is it really necessary to point someone out this way? That too in a open > community? > > 'Perhaps' I'm a guy who asked a silly question in the room (who hasn't). But > that is no reason to tell everyone to stop talking to the new guy, is it? > > I think each of them is capable of thinking for themselves, and made the > choice of replying by there own will. > > And for the record, I appreciate their efforts. > > Sent from ProtonMail mobile > > Original Message > On 5 Dec 2018, 11:51, Theo de Raadt < dera...@openbsd.org> wrote: > > > Why are all of you wasting your own time chatting with Ahmad?? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcB6amCRD3irc5ItUgGgAAU0kH/jR13S7Ij5+vd9W+WGz3 WOhCyTT1ECe7aXrc51jCt8QVtapWpZ3N1k750xhNgw5u3hlZ1D2jcxaqnMiZ p32oh/ZAgltWzdC49NeLP2Zf5hZyV5GebnVfEvLhkP8uSuENQpuNGAIvT/Oe E0k1bbC/FOhXCZlCtNi1tNqkJPwkPlVUqWOAV78U5hqc4qZm1E44BZzTi38J oURojtk4alNtPWLvHBwCdhdAE/LoVa4tb2q8czj67pKQja/fnJw3oyv+Kyfn i1UL3Fso1E+0p0JarNXtH+qxK3FLXeBa5DsDUXN8YGgyqsu7cwdUHnFyymmv 40wQmJYZSrmy2Lt9hS96mrA= =a5Y5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Re: Core Dev?
Why are all of you wasting your own time chatting with Ahmad??
Re: Core Dev?
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 2:47 AM Marc Espie wrote: > (note that Antoine is the 2nd most prolific contributor to OpenBSD in terms > of # of commits) > Sure, Marc, but that's just because Antoine is such a high caliber mole that 22 years and 22k commits in order to backdoor AWS systems that were _clearly_ going to happen is completely believable. Philip Guenther
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 @Solene: What does that have anything to do with my questions? I'm sorry if I'm missing something obvious. Please be kind to point it out for me. @Nick: If you are saying that AWS is that bad, please provide some reasonable proof of it. What are my options otherwise? I'm not in US (rather I'm in India), so my options are quite limited. Btw Yes, in regards to Cloud hosting, I'm aware of those drawbacks. I do not plan to keep it in the long term. Thanks for the advice btw. @trondd: Thank you. Indeed this was my thought as well, that security is not a product, but a continuous process. Btw, your advice is well worded, I appreciate it very much. @Bodie: Its a joy to have been of amusement to you :P But on a serious note, as I have said to Nick above, if it is really that bad, please prove it to a short extent at least. Any alternative you may have in mind, would be well appreciated as well. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 11:37 PM, Bodie wrote: > On 4.12.2018 07:47, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > Well I wrote to Theo earlier, but still haven't received a reply from > > him on this (Its been 4 days). > > Does anyone has any suggestions for me? I want OpenBSD due to > > reliability and security issues. AWS is the leader in hosting market. > > It is only natural to expect at least a FAQ or HOW-TO from openbsd > > team on this topic. > > LOL good one ;-) So strong about security and then leaving machine in > AWS > > > Through my earlier email on this list, I found out about Antoine's > > github, but I'm not sure how reliable he is. It is another thing, that > > I don't know how to run shell script on EC2, to do what he suggests. > > This is a dilemma :/ > > @Vijay: No need to be sorry. Its cool man. Thanks for the info. > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:10 AM, Vijay Sankar > > vsan...@foretell.ca wrote: > > > > > Well, (sorry if this is too much information) my kid started using > > > OpenBSD at a very young age due to Antoine's gCompris package 10 or > > > more > > > years ago. Also, there is the very useful subscription for stable > > > packages at mtier.org. So unless Theo de Raadt or Antoine Jacoutot say > > > otherwise, I would think he is a core developer. > > > On 12/3/18 6:17 PM, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > > > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > Can anyone tell me, > > > > Is Antoine Jacoutot a core openbsd developer? > > > > And this is his account (not a impersonator?) > > > > https://github.com/ajacoutot/aws-openbsd > > > > Should I take it as a official way of running OpenBSD on AWS? > > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > Version: ProtonMail > > > > Comment: https://protonmail.com > > > > wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBceOCRD3irc5ItUgGgAAngIIAJVEZINkE1Md0/OGKeOQ > > > > FX9BLNsAvLsmKZUEHIV4XnyM2kGe2kK/1uxfbboYD7oK6qnekVIDxRB4KjXz > > > > xjhdRzlRkqS50DKFgmVT5z2FN34nDgdLRq3K+vO24jpYAWVYrrrgLsZkqpHp > > > > YfNpOU1pMraiVWKWxEm1K8sqrIraunJoXU1DeBwsRveIm9W8lQhrakOK5w/A > > > > LP7NegSZljctRmTvLDkSwkgdR9mH18y/DFAjj+TlA3oLNB+EkKGRgBxuEddb > > > > BgoAU+9+PSgpoAUGXeWGlp/Q0caUP7lM/VlovbBJF8l+1uEZtc1euwtw8fo/ > > > > +cxZXDiMzDbouZAvSqG/60E= > > > > =5R2I > > > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > -- > > > Vijay Sankar > > > ForeTell Technologies Limited > > > vsan...@foretell.ca > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: ProtonMail > > Comment: https://protonmail.com > > wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBiMZCRD3irc5ItUgGgAArpQH+wYV/hoDraRdIhLb1CQR > > Fzlt7XXzAAkQORSYuDFCDi1Ly9fOWf11XWM3KWE2msrHfQM45dnCsYTakkJO > > bO05z6y61b5PrL1zX8wUlkKOwrhQ7lcJLLKhb3Bj79hR7vqzQAxfPYEsKZMF > > 3pEyg9oHAXn0QHDs6/g1Hn23SM09rj3QMlDYgtP3cKECv6SNoq8OhwF24/zq > > zfyt6yi4Z/9AFLU0ZxfvUAIRSwPT4wtm360OsbK12FsI9IemHqthQtIpD1mg > > lh6wyIo/IvHmC0KrFCviuDIs1VnHdwI4SHDDT6PmcWCGJnd5LqqnON4j38DL > > R8h5L6Lv8RgMRUDFGzqcV08= > > =a6RK > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcB0C9CRD3irc5ItUgGgAAvXcH/jBXf++8nP2glhwDTM8i n8LJskbWgGTc/XQeMmUd8RhHDELqS5Hp++caSvgNsKa00gRn02soVegHG7sH mxGMxSQPQkJQpTAGqXlMWEHtmcU6IM042EnPpgGlNKqZ0Jm8+SD9VcBL0f2K ASIEku+ecLITnX66K/OEK6kLk+Vf/YjfrKkEOPZbW6CkEtqhCzzi9Dyy+nl8 UogqiYyfv9MTmn/aBtHCzC55C8uhpYi3doZj0JX+TaRAl3+MNWPbOoGznLE+ UaI0y7q6910rO3hQ5+ZBi//gfZafSuRTrw5QzdyCkuUVBvHIGTVR9gqlYR55 uY8pIHO4JYaLIWhqW8tbTz8= =cEBI -END PGP SIGNATURE- publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc Description: application/pgp-keys publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc.sig Description: PGP signature
Re: Core Dev?
On 4.12.2018 07:47, Ahmad Bilal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Well I wrote to Theo earlier, but still haven't received a reply from him on this (Its been 4 days). Does anyone has any suggestions for me? I want OpenBSD due to reliability and security issues. AWS is the leader in hosting market. It is only natural to expect at least a FAQ or HOW-TO from openbsd team on this topic. LOL good one ;-) So strong about security and then leaving machine in AWS Through my earlier email on this list, I found out about Antoine's github, but I'm not sure how reliable he is. It is another thing, that I don't know how to run shell script on EC2, to do what he suggests. This is a dilemma :/ @Vijay: No need to be sorry. Its cool man. Thanks for the info. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:10 AM, Vijay Sankar wrote: Well, (sorry if this is too much information) my kid started using OpenBSD at a very young age due to Antoine's gCompris package 10 or more years ago. Also, there is the very useful subscription for stable packages at mtier.org. So unless Theo de Raadt or Antoine Jacoutot say otherwise, I would think he is a core developer. On 12/3/18 6:17 PM, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > Can anyone tell me, > Is Antoine Jacoutot a core openbsd developer? > And this is his account (not a impersonator?) > https://github.com/ajacoutot/aws-openbsd > Should I take it as a official way of running OpenBSD on AWS? > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: ProtonMail > Comment: https://protonmail.com > wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBceOCRD3irc5ItUgGgAAngIIAJVEZINkE1Md0/OGKeOQ > FX9BLNsAvLsmKZUEHIV4XnyM2kGe2kK/1uxfbboYD7oK6qnekVIDxRB4KjXz > xjhdRzlRkqS50DKFgmVT5z2FN34nDgdLRq3K+vO24jpYAWVYrrrgLsZkqpHp > YfNpOU1pMraiVWKWxEm1K8sqrIraunJoXU1DeBwsRveIm9W8lQhrakOK5w/A > LP7NegSZljctRmTvLDkSwkgdR9mH18y/DFAjj+TlA3oLNB+EkKGRgBxuEddb > BgoAU+9+PSgpoAUGXeWGlp/Q0caUP7lM/VlovbBJF8l+1uEZtc1euwtw8fo/ > +cxZXDiMzDbouZAvSqG/60E= > =5R2I > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Vijay Sankar ForeTell Technologies Limited vsan...@foretell.ca -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBiMZCRD3irc5ItUgGgAArpQH+wYV/hoDraRdIhLb1CQR Fzlt7XXzAAkQORSYuDFCDi1Ly9fOWf11XWM3KWE2msrHfQM45dnCsYTakkJO bO05z6y61b5PrL1zX8wUlkKOwrhQ7lcJLLKhb3Bj79hR7vqzQAxfPYEsKZMF 3pEyg9oHAXn0QHDs6/g1Hn23SM09rj3QMlDYgtP3cKECv6SNoq8OhwF24/zq zfyt6yi4Z/9AFLU0ZxfvUAIRSwPT4wtm360OsbK12FsI9IemHqthQtIpD1mg lh6wyIo/IvHmC0KrFCviuDIs1VnHdwI4SHDDT6PmcWCGJnd5LqqnON4j38DL R8h5L6Lv8RgMRUDFGzqcV08= =a6RK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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On Tue, December 4, 2018 6:50 am, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > > @Marc: Thanks for the information, but based on what you said, what would > you consider as 'official' then? Just curious. > Let go of this concept. These are your systems. You're the only official. If you want to build an AMI for AWS, you have to understand how that process works then looking at Antoine's scripts to see if that is what they do is trivial. If you want security, you have to know what that means. "Offical" or not is irrelivant. You can't avoid your own due diligence by passing that responsibility onto some imagined authority. > And no, I'm not on OpenBSD at all 'yet'. I was basically on CentOS for a > long time. Then recently shifted to FreeBSD, and I'm considering to use > OpenBSD now (and for foreseeable future) > If you're new to OpenBSD, that's great. But that means you shouldn't be running anything mission critical on OpenBSD if you don't know much about it yet. In which case, experiment. Run whatever looks reasonably like it might be good and see what it does. If it makes a mess, blow it away and start over. Read the man pages for the commands a script runs. Ask specific questions if it gets down in the weeds and you can't figure out what something is doing. There is absolutly no difference in what's "official" or not. Stuff works, and is good, or it isn't. You have to learn the difference.
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On 12/04/18 01:47, Ahmad Bilal wrote: ... > Does anyone has any suggestions for me? Yes. Read your request carefully to yourself... > I want OpenBSD due to reliability and security issues. Good plan. > AWS is the leader in hosting market. but ... not security. By that reasoning, we should all be using Windows XP. > It is only natural to expect at least a FAQ or HOW-TO from openbsd > team on this topic. Sometimes "don't", or "if you do, you get to keep all the pieces" is a good answer. Sometimes "no comment" is even better. Hey, I run OpenBSD on a chunk of rented HW myself, but I don't pretend it is as secure as a real box in my environment that I control. But I picked my hosting provider based on ease and support of getting OpenBSD working, not "leadership". "cloud" hosting is a bit like living in a building with randomly assigned people and sharing a bathroom. You may end up learning things about others you may not want to know. Nick.
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Ahmad Bilal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > @Janne: Read up where? Link please (if you are referring to anything except > that github) > > @Marc: Thanks for the information, but based on what you said, what would you > consider as 'official' then? Just curious. > > And no, I'm not on OpenBSD at all 'yet'. I was basically on CentOS for a long > time. Then recently shifted to FreeBSD, and I'm considering to use OpenBSD > now (and for foreseeable future) > Everything on the official CVS repository is obviously official http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 @Janne: Read up where? Link please (if you are referring to anything except that github) @Marc: Thanks for the information, but based on what you said, what would you consider as 'official' then? Just curious. And no, I'm not on OpenBSD at all 'yet'. I was basically on CentOS for a long time. Then recently shifted to FreeBSD, and I'm considering to use OpenBSD now (and for foreseeable future) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBmoWCRD3irc5ItUgGgAAoWgH/iY9FjcSrONmimz9yl0C +dXxHSUKoTfY4J4xycas2lZnNqFFOXGzA01hrbVvRW5xBwdApnLglYq8oauw UWZdbn8pZhmRcPtOfagoj2SJRRuaeXycy1NdgxUgTvjSH2s7FUPQn3cibRbq 1BpQbtTNDzOYHIs3UkqNaHDhU+lpPC6WbWYyyBmh6hJAElBxsARxhoQvDtmK 8c9kfgljqpYn7nVI5roUa2o5HICoDRYCyXDXzLyhSluc2N1t99LrTtLm43hh 3WYpAW0OwF7BhIA8x7Yf5sGyZFp0CHvYYzOqAiox/laZ25H7qmdjlLXISekc mCo2xGLgB9zOwjOogz6J1/M= =iatl -END PGP SIGNATURE- publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc Description: application/pgp-keys publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc.sig Description: PGP signature
Re: Core Dev?
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 09:52:09AM +, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Thanks guys. I did see a reference of his name here and there. I just wanted > to make sure (and thus asked it here). You're probably a *very* occasional user of OpenBSD. (note that Antoine is the 2nd most prolific contributor to OpenBSD in terms of # of commits)
Re: Core Dev?
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 12:17:20AM +, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Can anyone tell me, > Is Antoine Jacoutot a core openbsd developer? > > And this is his account (not a impersonator?) > https://github.com/ajacoutot/aws-openbsd > > Should I take it as a official way of running OpenBSD on AWS? There are lots of misconceptions in that email. There is no core team in OpenBSD. Only developers. Most with commit access. Antoine is a long-time OpenBSD developer. He wrote a lot of things. Most of them in cooperation with other people, because he's really good at working with others. This appears to by Antoine's github account, yes. This work is separate from the OpenBSD project. It's likely it might work. It isn't official in any capacity.
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> Does anyone has any suggestions for me? I want OpenBSD due to reliability and > security issues. AWS is the leader in hosting market. It is only natural to > expect at least a FAQ or HOW-TO from openbsd team on this topic. One possibility is to read up on how you create AMIs (obsd ones at that) and make one for yourself. You are not forced to consume someone elses AMI. -- May the most significant bit of your life be positive.
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Thanks guys. I did see a reference of his name here and there. I just wanted to make sure (and thus asked it here). I'm sorry, if I have caused any confusion. But my concern is similar to what Andreas said. I basically want to know if what he has on his github (regarding using openBSD on AWS) is endorsed by the OpenBSD officially? Or in a 'semi' sense at least i.e., similar to being not well verified/tested/stable etc but works. @Gilles: I will ask him. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBk5HCRD3irc5ItUgGgAAJGcIAJ889i05qvAQJ6MvXDpm 6Gih+7juZNgBg/uESRoHtf03qn/T5r+vHu75go4Zn27IUYgRS4haf34TPuyV Eax/Do50QEeKvtyYBWptbc6or70pVgoXCJKt+xdyAwzHRB/nb0yxIezKiCiK qaVmJf5OTwHrvNhLiC5/UQZzMXYUCxTCRsskKAW5IQhPYhLIu6An4h/JTppe yG5q2alS93RooQpRVEQcIBCvXSC8cRvNKbsrtJgtODReoYu3LpjF83kSKJIs kljrZBJHO0ADn1bbRNu/aeTADH1t86Gm0qyhhXpIBsLLufy0JCUYNRlPmPyz W9MS8pONdiTCPUwDpa6Gjuo= =cMrf -END PGP SIGNATURE- publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc Description: application/pgp-keys publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc.sig Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 08:40:50PM -0600, Vijay Sankar wrote: > Well, (sorry if this is too much information) my kid started using OpenBSD > at a very young age due to Antoine's gCompris package 10 or more years ago. > Also, there is the very useful subscription for stable packages at > mtier.org. So unless Theo de Raadt or Antoine Jacoutot say otherwise, I > would think he is a core developer. > Being a core developer, whatever that means, does not mean that anything you write automatically becomes officialy supported by OpenBSD. That being said you should ask ajacoutot@ because he is a core developer whatever that means :-) > On 12/3/18 6:17 PM, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > Can anyone tell me, > > Is Antoine Jacoutot a core openbsd developer? > > > > And this is his account (not a impersonator?) > > https://github.com/ajacoutot/aws-openbsd > > > > Should I take it as a official way of running OpenBSD on AWS? > > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: ProtonMail > > Comment: https://protonmail.com > > > > wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBceOCRD3irc5ItUgGgAAngIIAJVEZINkE1Md0/OGKeOQ > > FX9BLNsAvLsmKZUEHIV4XnyM2kGe2kK/1uxfbboYD7oK6qnekVIDxRB4KjXz > > xjhdRzlRkqS50DKFgmVT5z2FN34nDgdLRq3K+vO24jpYAWVYrrrgLsZkqpHp > > YfNpOU1pMraiVWKWxEm1K8sqrIraunJoXU1DeBwsRveIm9W8lQhrakOK5w/A > > LP7NegSZljctRmTvLDkSwkgdR9mH18y/DFAjj+TlA3oLNB+EkKGRgBxuEddb > > BgoAU+9+PSgpoAUGXeWGlp/Q0caUP7lM/VlovbBJF8l+1uEZtc1euwtw8fo/ > > +cxZXDiMzDbouZAvSqG/60E= > > =5R2I > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > Vijay Sankar > ForeTell Technologies Limited > vsan...@foretell.ca > -- Gilles Chehade @poolpOrg https://www.poolp.org tip me: https://paypal.me/poolpOrg
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On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 06:47:55AM +, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Well I wrote to Theo earlier, but still haven't received a reply from him on > this (Its been 4 days). > > Does anyone has any suggestions for me? I want OpenBSD due to reliability and > security issues. AWS is the leader in hosting market. It is only natural to > expect at least a FAQ or HOW-TO from openbsd team on this topic. > > Through my earlier email on this list, I found out about Antoine's github, > but I'm not sure how reliable he is. It is another thing, that I don't know > how to run shell script on EC2, to do what he suggests. > > This is a dilemma :/ > > @Vijay: No need to be sorry. Its cool man. Thanks for the info. > > > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:10 AM, Vijay Sankar > wrote: > > > Well, (sorry if this is too much information) my kid started using > > OpenBSD at a very young age due to Antoine's gCompris package 10 or more > > years ago. Also, there is the very useful subscription for stable > > packages at mtier.org. So unless Theo de Raadt or Antoine Jacoutot say > > otherwise, I would think he is a core developer. > > > > On 12/3/18 6:17 PM, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- [cut] > > > > -- > > Vijay Sankar > > ForeTell Technologies Limited > > vsan...@foretell.ca [cut] An OpenBSD developer may do other things related to OpenBSD, including developing projects that are using OpenBSD, or that are for running OpenBSD in various settings. This does not automatically mean that these projects are "endorsed by OpenBSD" or 100% supported. This is a good thing, as it would otherwise severely restrict what other public projects an OpenBSD could be working on. Cheers, -- Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri, National Bioinformatics Infrastructure Sweden (NBIS), Uppsala University, Sweden.
Re: Core Dev?
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 06:47:55AM +, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Well I wrote to Theo earlier, but still haven't received a reply from him on > this (Its been 4 days). > > Does anyone has any suggestions for me? I want OpenBSD due to reliability and > security issues. AWS is the leader in hosting market. It is only natural to > expect at least a FAQ or HOW-TO from openbsd team on this topic. > > Through my earlier email on this list, I found out about Antoine's github, > but I'm not sure how reliable he is. It is another thing, that I don't know > how to run shell script on EC2, to do what he suggests. > > This is a dilemma :/ > > @Vijay: No need to be sorry. Its cool man. Thanks for the info. Hi Ahmad, OpenBSD has in the past always provided a list of developers at the end of the Release announcement. Please see here: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce=153987110101242=2 I see Antoine on the list. I don't know if there is a distinction between a "core developer" and a developer, they both have @openbsd.org addresses. Another thing you could do is hunt down commit messages in the CVS. I've been an openbsd user for quite a long time and meeting OpenBSD devs was sometimes surprising because I'd never dreamed that I'd run across one. Best Regards, -peter
Re: Core Dev?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Well I wrote to Theo earlier, but still haven't received a reply from him on this (Its been 4 days). Does anyone has any suggestions for me? I want OpenBSD due to reliability and security issues. AWS is the leader in hosting market. It is only natural to expect at least a FAQ or HOW-TO from openbsd team on this topic. Through my earlier email on this list, I found out about Antoine's github, but I'm not sure how reliable he is. It is another thing, that I don't know how to run shell script on EC2, to do what he suggests. This is a dilemma :/ @Vijay: No need to be sorry. Its cool man. Thanks for the info. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:10 AM, Vijay Sankar wrote: > Well, (sorry if this is too much information) my kid started using > OpenBSD at a very young age due to Antoine's gCompris package 10 or more > years ago. Also, there is the very useful subscription for stable > packages at mtier.org. So unless Theo de Raadt or Antoine Jacoutot say > otherwise, I would think he is a core developer. > > On 12/3/18 6:17 PM, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > Can anyone tell me, > > Is Antoine Jacoutot a core openbsd developer? > > And this is his account (not a impersonator?) > > https://github.com/ajacoutot/aws-openbsd > > Should I take it as a official way of running OpenBSD on AWS? > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: ProtonMail > > Comment: https://protonmail.com > > wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBceOCRD3irc5ItUgGgAAngIIAJVEZINkE1Md0/OGKeOQ > > FX9BLNsAvLsmKZUEHIV4XnyM2kGe2kK/1uxfbboYD7oK6qnekVIDxRB4KjXz > > xjhdRzlRkqS50DKFgmVT5z2FN34nDgdLRq3K+vO24jpYAWVYrrrgLsZkqpHp > > YfNpOU1pMraiVWKWxEm1K8sqrIraunJoXU1DeBwsRveIm9W8lQhrakOK5w/A > > LP7NegSZljctRmTvLDkSwkgdR9mH18y/DFAjj+TlA3oLNB+EkKGRgBxuEddb > > BgoAU+9+PSgpoAUGXeWGlp/Q0caUP7lM/VlovbBJF8l+1uEZtc1euwtw8fo/ > > +cxZXDiMzDbouZAvSqG/60E= > > =5R2I > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > Vijay Sankar > ForeTell Technologies Limited > vsan...@foretell.ca -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBiMZCRD3irc5ItUgGgAArpQH+wYV/hoDraRdIhLb1CQR Fzlt7XXzAAkQORSYuDFCDi1Ly9fOWf11XWM3KWE2msrHfQM45dnCsYTakkJO bO05z6y61b5PrL1zX8wUlkKOwrhQ7lcJLLKhb3Bj79hR7vqzQAxfPYEsKZMF 3pEyg9oHAXn0QHDs6/g1Hn23SM09rj3QMlDYgtP3cKECv6SNoq8OhwF24/zq zfyt6yi4Z/9AFLU0ZxfvUAIRSwPT4wtm360OsbK12FsI9IemHqthQtIpD1mg lh6wyIo/IvHmC0KrFCviuDIs1VnHdwI4SHDDT6PmcWCGJnd5LqqnON4j38DL R8h5L6Lv8RgMRUDFGzqcV08= =a6RK -END PGP SIGNATURE- publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc Description: application/pgp-keys publickey - ssabs@protonmail.com - 0x39054E9B.asc.sig Description: PGP signature
Re: Core Dev?
Well, (sorry if this is too much information) my kid started using OpenBSD at a very young age due to Antoine's gCompris package 10 or more years ago. Also, there is the very useful subscription for stable packages at mtier.org. So unless Theo de Raadt or Antoine Jacoutot say otherwise, I would think he is a core developer. On 12/3/18 6:17 PM, Ahmad Bilal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Can anyone tell me, Is Antoine Jacoutot a core openbsd developer? And this is his account (not a impersonator?) https://github.com/ajacoutot/aws-openbsd Should I take it as a official way of running OpenBSD on AWS? Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBceOCRD3irc5ItUgGgAAngIIAJVEZINkE1Md0/OGKeOQ FX9BLNsAvLsmKZUEHIV4XnyM2kGe2kK/1uxfbboYD7oK6qnekVIDxRB4KjXz xjhdRzlRkqS50DKFgmVT5z2FN34nDgdLRq3K+vO24jpYAWVYrrrgLsZkqpHp YfNpOU1pMraiVWKWxEm1K8sqrIraunJoXU1DeBwsRveIm9W8lQhrakOK5w/A LP7NegSZljctRmTvLDkSwkgdR9mH18y/DFAjj+TlA3oLNB+EkKGRgBxuEddb BgoAU+9+PSgpoAUGXeWGlp/Q0caUP7lM/VlovbBJF8l+1uEZtc1euwtw8fo/ +cxZXDiMzDbouZAvSqG/60E= =5R2I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Vijay Sankar ForeTell Technologies Limited vsan...@foretell.ca
Re: Core Dev?
On 00:17 Tue 04 Dec, Ahmad Bilal wrote: > Can anyone tell me, > Is Antoine Jacoutot a core openbsd developer? > > And this is his account (not a impersonator?) > https://github.com/ajacoutot/aws-openbsd > > Should I take it as a official way of running OpenBSD on AWS? A quote from the source: > Running whatever is in this repo will propably end up destroying a kitten > factory. So probably not :)
Re: Core Dev?
What do you mean the “official way of running OpenBSD on AWS”? -luis On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 6:25 PM Ahmad Bilal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Can anyone tell me, > Is Antoine Jacoutot a core openbsd developer? > > And this is his account (not a impersonator?) > https://github.com/ajacoutot/aws-openbsd > > Should I take it as a official way of running OpenBSD on AWS? > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: ProtonMail > Comment: https://protonmail.com > > wsBcBAEBCAAQBQJcBceOCRD3irc5ItUgGgAAngIIAJVEZINkE1Md0/OGKeOQ > FX9BLNsAvLsmKZUEHIV4XnyM2kGe2kK/1uxfbboYD7oK6qnekVIDxRB4KjXz > xjhdRzlRkqS50DKFgmVT5z2FN34nDgdLRq3K+vO24jpYAWVYrrrgLsZkqpHp > YfNpOU1pMraiVWKWxEm1K8sqrIraunJoXU1DeBwsRveIm9W8lQhrakOK5w/A > LP7NegSZljctRmTvLDkSwkgdR9mH18y/DFAjj+TlA3oLNB+EkKGRgBxuEddb > BgoAU+9+PSgpoAUGXeWGlp/Q0caUP7lM/VlovbBJF8l+1uEZtc1euwtw8fo/ > +cxZXDiMzDbouZAvSqG/60E= > =5R2I > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > >
Core Dev?
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