Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Jon Drews
On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. Note that my problem is not printing pdf files, it is creating pdf files
 from within gnumeric.
 

OK, these are the dependencies I have for Gnumerics printing:
libgnomeprintui-2.6.2 
gtksourceview-1.0.1
libgnomeprint-2.6.2

do you have these also ?
-- 
Kind regards,
Jonathan



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 04:47 am, Jon Drews wrote:
 On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes. Note that my problem is not printing pdf files, it is creating pdf 
  files
  from within gnumeric.
  
 
 OK, these are the dependencies I have for Gnumerics printing:
 libgnomeprintui-2.6.2 

I have 
libgnomeprintui-2-2.a
libgnomeprintui-2-2.la
libgnomeprintui-2-2.so.1.0

 gtksourceview-1.0.1

I have
/usr/ports/ports/x11/gtksourceview

 libgnomeprint-2.6.2

I have
libgnomeprint-2-2.a
libgnomeprint-2-2.la
libgnomeprint-2-2.so.1.0 

 do you have these also ?

I have what I listed.

Thanks, 
Dave



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 June 2005 08:15 pm, Alec Berryman wrote:
 Dave Feustel on 2005-06-13 17:59:14 -0500:
 
   What about OpenOffice on OpenBSD? *ducks*
  
  It's too big for me to even try to port.
 
 I've never tried it under Linux emulation, but you might want to give
 that a go.  In my experience, OpenOffice can open some spreadsheets
 Gnumeric can't.  Try the 2.x branch if you can.
 
 http://cvs.openbsd.org/faq/faq9.html#Interact
 
ssconvert  successfully handled the MS spreadsheet that I was
sent. I hesitate to get involved with OpenOffice because  of the
size of the package and its slowness which I remember from my
attempts to use the package some time ago. 



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 June 2005 06:55 pm, eric wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 00:58:10 +0200, Bram Van Dam proclaimed...
 
  Because that's not a spreadsheet? Your information is about as useless 
  as his.
 
 Funny..lemme check here...
 
 From dict.org...
 
 spreadsheet
n : a screen-oriented interactive program enabling a user to lay
out financial data on the screen
 
 Now we can debate interactive, or I can go spend time letting latex do my
 formula calculations for my spreadsheets I generate hard copies of, and you
 can rightfully fuck off.

Using LaTex could work for me since my calculations are really simple
This approach is probably what I will  try next until I get my 3.7 cdroms. 



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 June 2005 05:58 pm, Jon Drews wrote:
 On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I can say from experience that, running with KDE, neither Kspread nor 
  Gnumeric
  on OpenBSD 3.6 are useable (by me, at least) for hard copy of even simple
  spreadsheets.
  
  I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows computer
  *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and straightforwardly the hard 
  copy
  I need. Neither gnumeric nor kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the
  basis of my brief  experience with those two programs.
 
 Hi Dave:
 
 I  am using:
 gnumeric-1.2.13
 on OpenBSD notebook.silbsd.org 3.6 GENERIC#4 i386
 
 I use this Gnumeric spreadsheet every day. I printed out a *.gnumeric
 OK here on lpr:
 Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
 active xfce   159  (standard input)  302758 bytes
 
 So it does work and work well. Are you able to print other jobs ? 

Yes. Note that my problem is not printing pdf files, it is creating pdf files
from within gnumeric.

 Are you using CUPS or lpd ?

I use lpd. I print postscript files to aps1. This is my printcap file:


#   $OpenBSD: printcap,v 1.4 2003/03/28 21:32:30 jmc Exp $

lp|local line printer:\
:lp=/dev/lpa0:\
#:if=/etc/lpd_filters/addcr:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/text/acct:
# APS1_BEGIN:printer1
# - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer1
# - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL
aps1|pxlmono;r=300x300;q=high;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\
:lp=/dev/lpa0:\
:if=/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/aps1:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/aps1/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/aps1/acct:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
# APS1_END - don't delete this



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Bakken, Luke
 I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows
 computer *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and
 straightforwardly the hard copy I need. Neither gnumeric nor
 kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the basis of my brief 
 experience with those two programs. 

Windows is probably your best solution. Printing problems with those
programs are not on topic for the misc@ list. If those programs were
printing to the OpenBSD print spooler and there was a problem with the
print spooler, THEN this would be on topic.



OT Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Diana Eichert
Man, we're wandering way OT with these posts.

I use OpenBSD on servers all day long, but I type this from an ssh session
initiated from my Windows system located on my desktop.  If you want a
system that's relatively easy to use for a desktop system pickup a Walmart
$199 box, it has the cleanest Linux install I've ever seen.  FWIW we blow
away the Linux install on it for OpenBSD but we left one with it's stock
Xandros install on for grins and giggles in the office.  It's the slickest
thing I've seen for the pointn' und clickn' user in the unix-like world.

diana



Re: [OT] Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:12:56AM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote:
[...]
 Since you don't mention any particular format requirements, I'll assume 
 that any spreadsheet will suffice as long as the features are there.
[...]

Sorry for beeing offtopic.

In germany we call those spreadsheet tools Tabellenkalkulation,
translated table calculation. That's awk(1).

There're some nice tools preinstalled on every OpenBSD for doing
spreadsheets:

vi(1), awk(1), [ng]roff(1), maybe latex(1) or lout(1) from ports
(the latter in CVS since a few hours).



Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-13 Thread Dave Feustel
I write this as a person very committed to OpenBSD as a secure desktop.

I can say from experience that, running with KDE, neither Kspread nor Gnumeric 
on OpenBSD 3.6 are useable (by me, at least) for hard copy of even simple 
spreadsheets. 

I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows computer 
*just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and straightforwardly the hard 
copy 
I need. Neither gnumeric nor kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the 
basis of my brief  experience with those two programs.

I will continue to use OpenBSD for accessing the internet, but my business
related computing/printing tasks may well have to be done on Windows.  

Dave Feustel



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-13 Thread eric
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 16:49:14 -0500, Dave Feustel proclaimed...

 I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows computer 
 *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and straightforwardly the hard 
 copy 
 I need. Neither gnumeric nor kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the 
 basis of my brief  experience with those two programs.

Why don't you learn how to use TeX or LaTeX?

 I will continue to use OpenBSD for accessing the internet, but my business
 related computing/printing tasks may well have to be done on Windows.  

Great, thanks for that pointlessly off-topic information.



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-13 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 June 2005 05:02 pm, eric wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 16:49:14 -0500, Dave Feustel proclaimed...
 
  I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows computer 
  *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and straightforwardly the hard 
  copy 
  I need. Neither gnumeric nor kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the 
  basis of my brief  experience with those two programs.
 
 Why don't you learn how to use TeX or LaTeX?

I have been considering this - I really like LaTex and its print formatting 
capabilities.
 
  I will continue to use OpenBSD for accessing the internet, but my business
  related computing/printing tasks may well have to be done on Windows.  
 
 Great, thanks for that pointlessly off-topic information.



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-13 Thread eric
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 00:58:10 +0200, Bram Van Dam proclaimed...

 Because that's not a spreadsheet? Your information is about as useless 
 as his.

Funny..lemme check here...

From dict.org...

spreadsheet
   n : a screen-oriented interactive program enabling a user to lay
   out financial data on the screen

Now we can debate interactive, or I can go spend time letting latex do my
formula calculations for my spreadsheets I generate hard copies of, and you
can rightfully fuck off.



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-13 Thread Jon Drews
On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can say from experience that, running with KDE, neither Kspread nor Gnumeric
 on OpenBSD 3.6 are useable (by me, at least) for hard copy of even simple
 spreadsheets.
 
 I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows computer
 *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and straightforwardly the hard 
 copy
 I need. Neither gnumeric nor kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the
 basis of my brief  experience with those two programs.

Hi Dave:

I  am using:
gnumeric-1.2.13
on OpenBSD notebook.silbsd.org 3.6 GENERIC#4 i386

I use this Gnumeric spreadsheet every day. I printed out a *.gnumeric
OK here on lpr:
Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
active xfce   159  (standard input)  302758 bytes

So it does work and work well. Are you able to print other jobs ? Are
you using CUPS or lpd ?
 



-- 
Kind regards,
Jonathan



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-13 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 June 2005 05:38 pm, Gupni ^sr Bjvrgvinsson wrote:
 Dave Feustel wrote:
  I write this as a person very committed to OpenBSD as a secure desktop.
  
  I can say from experience that, running with KDE, neither Kspread nor 
  Gnumeric 
  on OpenBSD 3.6 are useable (by me, at least) for hard copy of even simple 
  spreadsheets. 
  
  I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows computer 
  *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and straightforwardly the hard 
  copy 
  I need. Neither gnumeric nor kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the 
  basis of my brief  experience with those two programs.
  
  I will continue to use OpenBSD for accessing the internet, but my business
  related computing/printing tasks may well have to be done on Windows.  
  
  Dave Feustel
  
  
 
 Why are you blaming OpenBSD for an application that they didn't write 
 or came anything to do with except porting it?

You misunderstand the message. I am not blaming OpenBSD - just
reporting a problem  with the platform which may well not be significant
enough for OpenBSD developers to attend to. If that's the case, C'est La Vie.

 If the port isn't good   enough for your you should file a bug report 

There are simply too many bugs to report where printing is concerned.

 or  better yet, find out  
 *why* gnumeric is too unstable for you.

gnumeric often crashes instead of printing what I specify.

 What about OpenOffice on OpenBSD? *ducks*

It's too big for me to even try to port.
 
 Regards,



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-13 Thread Alec Berryman
Dave Feustel on 2005-06-13 17:59:14 -0500:

  What about OpenOffice on OpenBSD? *ducks*
 
 It's too big for me to even try to port.

I've never tried it under Linux emulation, but you might want to give
that a go.  In my experience, OpenOffice can open some spreadsheets
Gnumeric can't.  Try the 2.x branch if you can.

http://cvs.openbsd.org/faq/faq9.html#Interact