Re: Hellos from.. one nation under Üni

2018-01-03 Thread tinkr
You are liable of wasting tens or hundreds of hours of my + other mailing list 
subscriber's time with your unsolicited pathethic ramblings.

Disintegrate from this list now.

> Not surprisingly, the naysayers of the thread are with the adamic 

Re: Hellos from.. one nation under Üni

2018-01-03 Thread Joseph A Borg
I hesitate to drop in on this entertaining thread, but are you lot sure you’re 
not talking to a bot? Smells like one to me.

> On 03 Jan 2018, at 11:54, Paolo Aglialoro  wrote:
> 
> Listen to Üni: better change your pusher!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Epost  wrote:
> 
>> Not surprisingly, the naysayers of the thread are with the adamic lineage
>> of prophets:
>> 
>> From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFxUqTlmMkU
>> 
>> -- Üni - A Zén-realized concept of God.--
>> 
>> - I did "zén"-style "pure mind" meditation for 10 years. -
>> 
>> Starting with typical religious dogma, and "god", and progressed soon into
>> complete transcendence, and ultimately close to "no concept", "absolute
>> reality", and "no mind", the wellknown things this is about. And realized a
>> concept of god there, Üni.
>> 
>> Üni, master of all, as it is called, in a typical language.
>> 
>> On the way there, abrahamic religion got absurd, and I was truly happy to
>> have defeated it.
>> Indeed it seems where the western concept of "god" is going, so the zén
>> egolessness influence is for a good reason.
>> 
>> The reason I believe is that it is based on reason, and a pure mind,
>> rather than the hallucinatory agent type "visions" of prophets.
>> Indeed did not Adam use Amanita Muscaria, that has a symbiotic
>> relationship to the pine tree? And the result may be what one might call
>> today, a lower archaic state, more like a caveman.
>> From this caveman state, Adam realized his version of the divine. Where
>> the enemy supposedly is a madman, who does not believe.
>> Hallucinogens are often like this. Some enemyconcept, fundamental belief
>> and yet not quite conquering the enemy. Like a bad dream some might say.
>> Because ofcourse the enemy probably is Adam himself who hates himself for
>> abusing Amanita Muscaria, but in the schizophrenic state, it is someone
>> else.
>> So the whole religion based on a schizophrenic Adamic mind lasts for about
>> 1000 years, from 5000 BC. With wars against nonbelievers, and anyone not
>> fitting in.
>> 
>> Until 4000 BC, where an intelligent mushroom user, actually makes up
>> another tree, that supposedly makes one the deity. This is the start of
>> modern self-development techniques where one is the deity oneself. And in a
>> way being the ultimate concept, escaping the Adamic schizophrenia. Unless
>> one actually used the mushroom that is.
>> 
>> 2000 BC a very confounded man, believes that stars, suns and moons are his
>> deities. And suddently one day exclaims "Nay, I am not going to worship the
>> stars, the suns and the moons anymore. Now I am a prophet of Absolute
>> Reality". A very unlikely scenario. Yes, it is Abraham. Who cannot stop
>> talking about how his deity is óne, and so we have the word monotheism,
>> rather than just theism. Because that was supposedly so hard to understand.
>> 
>> 0 AD, Jesus goes to a city, to tell them that "it is only óne", and then
>> "flies up into the sky", according to both Bible and Quran.
>> 
>> 600 AD Muhammad talks about his deity Allah, keeping the Adamic
>> schizophrenia, now even more obtuse with both Abrahamic "one" talk and
>> covering "all things" in 500 pages. It results in a fundamental view, that
>> reflects the early wars of Adamic religion still, claiming he is the final
>> prophet. With the religious language similar to many hallucinatory agent
>> popvideos. Meaning ofcourse that there is no "revelation", but rather
>> writings based on hallucinatory visions. And indeed the typical
>> hallucinatory agent prophet lineage ends there.
>> 
>> But:
>> Approximately a little before or after 0 AD, "Buddha" writes the
>> Dhammapada, that seems to be based on the belief that hallucinogens made
>> them the deity, but now iterated to a focus on the mind. With earlier
>> shrines being tree-shrines, so a form of canonization of this line of
>> knowledge. The writer is cleary inspired by Abraham. But since it focuses
>> on the mind, interpretators take it in the direction of zén, that in turn
>> goes away from The Dhammapada, and instead focuses on a pure mind, and
>> absolute reality. This indeed becomes the most rational version of
>> spirituality.
>> 
>> And in the 1500s The Bible starts being massprinted, which leads to a
>> mass-criticism of the text, leading to the "age of enligthenment" in the
>> 1800s, and who we are now, and our modern society.
>> And indeed instead of the original godconcepts of prophets, we have "god",
>> which is a rationalized verison of it.
>> Which in deep zén-meditation becomes "Üni", and rationalized to the
>> fullest extent. And free of hallucinatory agent connections.
>> 
>> Unfortunately hallucinatory agent type language still continues to be
>> used, even among many who claim rationality, in a scientific dicipline.
>> Dual State Potential, is not a rational thought, and some quantum
>> physicists are the Abraham of our time, and should be warned against. They
>> can go indeed on and on, while

Re: Hellos from.. one nation under Üni

2018-01-03 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Could be... a stoned bot ahahah

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Joseph A Borg  wrote:

> I hesitate to drop in on this entertaining thread, but are you lot sure
> you’re not talking to a bot? Smells like one to me.
>
> > On 03 Jan 2018, at 11:54, Paolo Aglialoro  wrote:
> >
> > Listen to Üni: better change your pusher!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Epost 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Not surprisingly, the naysayers of the thread are with the adamic
> lineage
> >> of prophets:
> >>
> >> From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFxUqTlmMkU
> >>
> >> -- Üni - A Zén-realized concept of God.--
> >>
> >> - I did "zén"-style "pure mind" meditation for 10 years. -
> >>
> >> Starting with typical religious dogma, and "god", and progressed soon
> into
> >> complete transcendence, and ultimately close to "no concept", "absolute
> >> reality", and "no mind", the wellknown things this is about. And
> realized a
> >> concept of god there, Üni.
> >>
> >> Üni, master of all, as it is called, in a typical language.
> >>
> >> On the way there, abrahamic religion got absurd, and I was truly happy
> to
> >> have defeated it.
> >> Indeed it seems where the western concept of "god" is going, so the zén
> >> egolessness influence is for a good reason.
> >>
> >> The reason I believe is that it is based on reason, and a pure mind,
> >> rather than the hallucinatory agent type "visions" of prophets.
> >> Indeed did not Adam use Amanita Muscaria, that has a symbiotic
> >> relationship to the pine tree? And the result may be what one might call
> >> today, a lower archaic state, more like a caveman.
> >> From this caveman state, Adam realized his version of the divine. Where
> >> the enemy supposedly is a madman, who does not believe.
> >> Hallucinogens are often like this. Some enemyconcept, fundamental belief
> >> and yet not quite conquering the enemy. Like a bad dream some might say.
> >> Because ofcourse the enemy probably is Adam himself who hates himself
> for
> >> abusing Amanita Muscaria, but in the schizophrenic state, it is someone
> >> else.
> >> So the whole religion based on a schizophrenic Adamic mind lasts for
> about
> >> 1000 years, from 5000 BC. With wars against nonbelievers, and anyone not
> >> fitting in.
> >>
> >> Until 4000 BC, where an intelligent mushroom user, actually makes up
> >> another tree, that supposedly makes one the deity. This is the start of
> >> modern self-development techniques where one is the deity oneself. And
> in a
> >> way being the ultimate concept, escaping the Adamic schizophrenia.
> Unless
> >> one actually used the mushroom that is.
> >>
> >> 2000 BC a very confounded man, believes that stars, suns and moons are
> his
> >> deities. And suddently one day exclaims "Nay, I am not going to worship
> the
> >> stars, the suns and the moons anymore. Now I am a prophet of Absolute
> >> Reality". A very unlikely scenario. Yes, it is Abraham. Who cannot stop
> >> talking about how his deity is óne, and so we have the word monotheism,
> >> rather than just theism. Because that was supposedly so hard to
> understand.
> >>
> >> 0 AD, Jesus goes to a city, to tell them that "it is only óne", and then
> >> "flies up into the sky", according to both Bible and Quran.
> >>
> >> 600 AD Muhammad talks about his deity Allah, keeping the Adamic
> >> schizophrenia, now even more obtuse with both Abrahamic "one" talk and
> >> covering "all things" in 500 pages. It results in a fundamental view,
> that
> >> reflects the early wars of Adamic religion still, claiming he is the
> final
> >> prophet. With the religious language similar to many hallucinatory agent
> >> popvideos. Meaning ofcourse that there is no "revelation", but rather
> >> writings based on hallucinatory visions. And indeed the typical
> >> hallucinatory agent prophet lineage ends there.
> >>
> >> But:
> >> Approximately a little before or after 0 AD, "Buddha" writes the
> >> Dhammapada, that seems to be based on the belief that hallucinogens made
> >> them the deity, but now iterated to a focus on the mind. With earlier
> >> shrines being tree-shrines, so a form of canonization of this line of
> >> knowledge. The writer is cleary inspired by Abraham. But since it
> focuses
> >> on the mind, interpretators take it in the direction of zén, that in
> turn
> >> goes away from The Dhammapada, and instead focuses on a pure mind, and
> >> absolute reality. This indeed becomes the most rational version of
> >> spirituality.
> >>
> >> And in the 1500s The Bible starts being massprinted, which leads to a
> >> mass-criticism of the text, leading to the "age of enligthenment" in the
> >> 1800s, and who we are now, and our modern society.
> >> And indeed instead of the original godconcepts of prophets, we have
> "god",
> >> which is a rationalized verison of it.
> >> Which in deep zén-meditation becomes "Üni", and rationalized to the
> >> fullest extent. And free of hallucinatory agent connections.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately hallucinatory agent ty

Re: Hellos from.. one nation under Üni

2018-01-03 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Listen to Üni: better change your pusher!




On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Epost  wrote:

> Not surprisingly, the naysayers of the thread are with the adamic lineage
> of prophets:
>
> From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFxUqTlmMkU
>
> -- Üni - A Zén-realized concept of God.--
>
> - I did "zén"-style "pure mind" meditation for 10 years. -
>
> Starting with typical religious dogma, and "god", and progressed soon into
> complete transcendence, and ultimately close to "no concept", "absolute
> reality", and "no mind", the wellknown things this is about. And realized a
> concept of god there, Üni.
>
> Üni, master of all, as it is called, in a typical language.
>
> On the way there, abrahamic religion got absurd, and I was truly happy to
> have defeated it.
> Indeed it seems where the western concept of "god" is going, so the zén
> egolessness influence is for a good reason.
>
> The reason I believe is that it is based on reason, and a pure mind,
> rather than the hallucinatory agent type "visions" of prophets.
> Indeed did not Adam use Amanita Muscaria, that has a symbiotic
> relationship to the pine tree? And the result may be what one might call
> today, a lower archaic state, more like a caveman.
> From this caveman state, Adam realized his version of the divine. Where
> the enemy supposedly is a madman, who does not believe.
> Hallucinogens are often like this. Some enemyconcept, fundamental belief
> and yet not quite conquering the enemy. Like a bad dream some might say.
> Because ofcourse the enemy probably is Adam himself who hates himself for
> abusing Amanita Muscaria, but in the schizophrenic state, it is someone
> else.
> So the whole religion based on a schizophrenic Adamic mind lasts for about
> 1000 years, from 5000 BC. With wars against nonbelievers, and anyone not
> fitting in.
>
> Until 4000 BC, where an intelligent mushroom user, actually makes up
> another tree, that supposedly makes one the deity. This is the start of
> modern self-development techniques where one is the deity oneself. And in a
> way being the ultimate concept, escaping the Adamic schizophrenia. Unless
> one actually used the mushroom that is.
>
> 2000 BC a very confounded man, believes that stars, suns and moons are his
> deities. And suddently one day exclaims "Nay, I am not going to worship the
> stars, the suns and the moons anymore. Now I am a prophet of Absolute
> Reality". A very unlikely scenario. Yes, it is Abraham. Who cannot stop
> talking about how his deity is óne, and so we have the word monotheism,
> rather than just theism. Because that was supposedly so hard to understand.
>
> 0 AD, Jesus goes to a city, to tell them that "it is only óne", and then
> "flies up into the sky", according to both Bible and Quran.
>
> 600 AD Muhammad talks about his deity Allah, keeping the Adamic
> schizophrenia, now even more obtuse with both Abrahamic "one" talk and
> covering "all things" in 500 pages. It results in a fundamental view, that
> reflects the early wars of Adamic religion still, claiming he is the final
> prophet. With the religious language similar to many hallucinatory agent
> popvideos. Meaning ofcourse that there is no "revelation", but rather
> writings based on hallucinatory visions. And indeed the typical
> hallucinatory agent prophet lineage ends there.
>
> But:
> Approximately a little before or after 0 AD, "Buddha" writes the
> Dhammapada, that seems to be based on the belief that hallucinogens made
> them the deity, but now iterated to a focus on the mind. With earlier
> shrines being tree-shrines, so a form of canonization of this line of
> knowledge. The writer is cleary inspired by Abraham. But since it focuses
> on the mind, interpretators take it in the direction of zén, that in turn
> goes away from The Dhammapada, and instead focuses on a pure mind, and
> absolute reality. This indeed becomes the most rational version of
> spirituality.
>
> And in the 1500s The Bible starts being massprinted, which leads to a
> mass-criticism of the text, leading to the "age of enligthenment" in the
> 1800s, and who we are now, and our modern society.
> And indeed instead of the original godconcepts of prophets, we have "god",
> which is a rationalized verison of it.
> Which in deep zén-meditation becomes "Üni", and rationalized to the
> fullest extent. And free of hallucinatory agent connections.
>
> Unfortunately hallucinatory agent type language still continues to be
> used, even among many who claim rationality, in a scientific dicipline.
> Dual State Potential, is not a rational thought, and some quantum
> physicists are the Abraham of our time, and should be warned against. They
> can go indeed on and on, while a discusser indicated that "he might go mad"
> if he continued with this, and that "many had". And talked about E=mc2, and
> how infinity and the universe was a wave function. Can you do math on
> infinity? I thought that was "not a number". Einstein was ofcourse a
> believer in Judaism, and "

Re: Hellos from.. one nation under Üni

2018-01-02 Thread Epost
Not surprisingly, the naysayers of the thread are with the adamic 
lineage of prophets:


From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFxUqTlmMkU

-- Üni - A Zén-realized concept of God.--

- I did "zén"-style "pure mind" meditation for 10 years. -

Starting with typical religious dogma, and "god", and progressed soon 
into complete transcendence, and ultimately close to "no concept", 
"absolute reality", and "no mind", the wellknown things this is about. 
And realized a concept of god there, Üni.


Üni, master of all, as it is called, in a typical language.

On the way there, abrahamic religion got absurd, and I was truly happy 
to have defeated it.
Indeed it seems where the western concept of "god" is going, so the zén 
egolessness influence is for a good reason.


The reason I believe is that it is based on reason, and a pure mind, 
rather than the hallucinatory agent type "visions" of prophets.
Indeed did not Adam use Amanita Muscaria, that has a symbiotic 
relationship to the pine tree? And the result may be what one might call 
today, a lower archaic state, more like a caveman.
From this caveman state, Adam realized his version of the divine. Where 
the enemy supposedly is a madman, who does not believe.
Hallucinogens are often like this. Some enemyconcept, fundamental belief 
and yet not quite conquering the enemy. Like a bad dream some might say.
Because ofcourse the enemy probably is Adam himself who hates himself 
for abusing Amanita Muscaria, but in the schizophrenic state, it is 
someone else.
So the whole religion based on a schizophrenic Adamic mind lasts for 
about 1000 years, from 5000 BC. With wars against nonbelievers, and 
anyone not fitting in.


Until 4000 BC, where an intelligent mushroom user, actually makes up 
another tree, that supposedly makes one the deity. This is the start of 
modern self-development techniques where one is the deity oneself. And 
in a way being the ultimate concept, escaping the Adamic schizophrenia. 
Unless one actually used the mushroom that is.


2000 BC a very confounded man, believes that stars, suns and moons are 
his deities. And suddently one day exclaims "Nay, I am not going to 
worship the stars, the suns and the moons anymore. Now I am a prophet of 
Absolute Reality". A very unlikely scenario. Yes, it is Abraham. Who 
cannot stop talking about how his deity is óne, and so we have the word 
monotheism, rather than just theism. Because that was supposedly so hard 
to understand.


0 AD, Jesus goes to a city, to tell them that "it is only óne", and then 
"flies up into the sky", according to both Bible and Quran.


600 AD Muhammad talks about his deity Allah, keeping the Adamic 
schizophrenia, now even more obtuse with both Abrahamic "one" talk and 
covering "all things" in 500 pages. It results in a fundamental view, 
that reflects the early wars of Adamic religion still, claiming he is 
the final prophet. With the religious language similar to many 
hallucinatory agent popvideos. Meaning ofcourse that there is no 
"revelation", but rather writings based on hallucinatory visions. And 
indeed the typical hallucinatory agent prophet lineage ends there.


But:
Approximately a little before or after 0 AD, "Buddha" writes the 
Dhammapada, that seems to be based on the belief that hallucinogens made 
them the deity, but now iterated to a focus on the mind. With earlier 
shrines being tree-shrines, so a form of canonization of this line of 
knowledge. The writer is cleary inspired by Abraham. But since it 
focuses on the mind, interpretators take it in the direction of zén, 
that in turn goes away from The Dhammapada, and instead focuses on a 
pure mind, and absolute reality. This indeed becomes the most rational 
version of spirituality.


And in the 1500s The Bible starts being massprinted, which leads to a 
mass-criticism of the text, leading to the "age of enligthenment" in the 
1800s, and who we are now, and our modern society.
And indeed instead of the original godconcepts of prophets, we have 
"god", which is a rationalized verison of it.
Which in deep zén-meditation becomes "Üni", and rationalized to the 
fullest extent. And free of hallucinatory agent connections.


Unfortunately hallucinatory agent type language still continues to be 
used, even among many who claim rationality, in a scientific dicipline. 
Dual State Potential, is not a rational thought, and some quantum 
physicists are the Abraham of our time, and should be warned against. 
They can go indeed on and on, while a discusser indicated that "he might 
go mad" if he continued with this, and that "many had". And talked about 
E=mc2, and how infinity and the universe was a wave function. Can you do 
math on infinity? I thought that was "not a number". Einstein was 
ofcourse a believer in Judaism, and "the god of Abraham".


Peace.

Den 1/3/2018 01:11, skrev Eric Furman:

Please go spread crazy somewhere else.
We're all filled up here.

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018, at 9:39 AM, Epost wrote:

I have ratio

Re: Hellos from.. one nation under Üni

2018-01-02 Thread Eric Furman
Please go spread crazy somewhere else.
We're all filled up here.

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018, at 9:39 AM, Epost wrote:
> I have rationalized this even futher. Some of the reason for me 
> rejecting GNU was indeed the hallucinogenic element. I hate indeed 
> "psilocybin prophets"and that they supposedly can tell me something 
> about reality.
> 
> So I have dropped the entire adamic lineage of psilocybin prophets, and 
> replaced the deity concept with Üni, which is a rational zén realized 
> concept. Indeed "God" already is far a rationalization of the prophets 
> sayings.
> 
> I hope you´ll come around to understanding my view.
> 
> Peace.
> 
> Racoh Box - An alpha specification for a fair economy on available 
> source. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8HzSVdBHZU
> 



Re: Hellos from.. one nation under Üni

2018-01-02 Thread Epost
I have rationalized this even futher. Some of the reason for me 
rejecting GNU was indeed the hallucinogenic element. I hate indeed 
"psilocybin prophets"and that they supposedly can tell me something 
about reality.


So I have dropped the entire adamic lineage of psilocybin prophets, and 
replaced the deity concept with Üni, which is a rational zén realized 
concept. Indeed "God" already is far a rationalization of the prophets 
sayings.


I hope you´ll come around to understanding my view.

Peace.

Racoh Box - An alpha specification for a fair economy on available 
source. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8HzSVdBHZU