Re: Is there a OpenBSD friendly hardware vendor out there?

2005-11-22 Thread Johan P . Lindström
On 11/22/05, John Brahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have always purchased dell servers but I got screwed by adaptec.
>
> Does HP, IBM, or anyone else provide a 1u rack mount server with hardware 
> raid that is fully supported by OpenBSD? Or do I have to go to each vendor 
> and get them to tell me the chipset for each part?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>


You may want to have a peek at www.mullet.se, most of, if not all of
their 1U systems are OpenBSD compatible, you should get a hint about
what hw works if building a system yourself (or ordering from them, I
decided to...) is the right think for you.

-- J

--
// Johan



Re: Is there a OpenBSD friendly hardware vendor out there?

2005-11-22 Thread Marco Peereboom

On Nov 22, 2005, at 3:56 PM, John Brahy wrote:


I have always purchased dell servers but I got screwed by adaptec.


Dell hasn't shipped Adaptec for the last 2 generations of servers.   
It is currently all mpt(4) and ami(4).  Actually their stuff is  
pretty well supported.  Recently we added ipmi(4) which is supported  
upwards from the x6xx generation servers.  And currently esm(4) is  
being developed which adds sensor support for older <= x5xx servers.   
Also on the older servers you can plug a PERC 3/DC for RAID support,  
including internal disks.  The ami(4) stuff is supported by bioctl(8).


Disclaimer: this isn't true for the SC line of "servers".



  Does HP, IBM, or anyone else provide a 1u rack mount server with  
hardware raid that is fully supported by OpenBSD? Or do I have to  
go to each vendor and get them to tell me the chipset for each part?


IBM does mostly adaptec
HP does adaptec, cac(4) and ciss(4)
None of these are currently supported by bioctl(8).

There are some other boards like gdt(4) which are pretty good and  
could be dropped in just about any box.




  Thanks,

  John




Re: Is there a OpenBSD friendly hardware vendor out there?

2005-11-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2005/11/22 13:56:02, John Brahy wrote:
> I have always purchased dell servers but I got screwed by adaptec. 

Most PERC PCI SCSI RAID controllers are AMI. Motherboard and SATA are
often adaptec (or there are some low-end Promise pseudo-RAID SATA too).

>   Does HP, IBM, or anyone else provide a 1u rack mount server with
> hardware raid that is fully supported by OpenBSD?

HP RAID cards are usually ciss(4) with some support in 3.8 but no bioctl yet.

IBM mostly use Adaptec for RAID.

Fujitsu-Siemens have MegaRAID PCI cards. Motherboard generally mpt(4),
marco@ recently put out a call for hardware to work on the raid part of
mpt (IM 'intelligent mirroring'), though a recent poster here said that
adding RAM (or was it BBU..can't remember) to the motherboard RAID on
the F-S turns it into an ami(4) for much less cost than a PCI card.

Looks like Sun v20z and x4100 onboard is mpt(4), as above.
They also do MegaRAID PCI cards.

You might see a pattern forming: you mostly need a PCI raid card
for support by existing OpenBSD code. Look at the -current manpage or
OpenBSD website for a better list of ami(4) cards than previously
available.

> Or do I have to go to each vendor and get them to tell me the chipset
> for each part?

If you find something you think you'll buy, it wouldn't hurt to get
vendor confirmation about this (and anything else you're concerned about -
e.g. motherboard chipset).



Is there a OpenBSD friendly hardware vendor out there?

2005-11-22 Thread John Brahy
I have always purchased dell servers but I got screwed by adaptec. 
   
  Does HP, IBM, or anyone else provide a 1u rack mount server with hardware 
raid that is fully supported by OpenBSD? Or do I have to go to each vendor and 
get them to tell me the chipset for each part?
   
  Thanks,
   
  John