Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-12 Thread Evan Root
I would recommend http://www.mini-itx.com/ and a cheap four port ethernet
card. I just did a quick look around google and it looks like all of the
four port 100mb cards are pci-x. You also will need a pci riser like here
for example
http://www.wiredzone.com/Supermicro-RSCR1UUE4R-1U,-UIO-Right-Side-Riser-Card~10022708~0.htm

After all that you would have a good working system. But then again after
adding up all the parts cost and your time you may still want to go with a
vender who builds for you :(
Unless you really don't find one. Then this is your choice.

Evan Root, CCNA
505.226.1319


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Francisco Valladolid H.
fic...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Paul de Weerd we...@weirdnet.nl wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 08:09:02PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
  | These can be hard to get via the usual axiomtek reseller channels, but
 these are
  | the same thing with a different front plate:
  |
  |
 https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-openbsd-appliance-6a16e.html
  |
 https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-appliance-6a16er.html
 
  I have the 6a16e (i.e. the non-rackmountable version) and have been
  very happy with it.  Highly recommmend it!

 Thank you Paul.

 This model is very expensive plus the shipping and import duties to
 Mexico..

 Regards

 
  Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
 
  --
 [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+
  +++-].++[-]+.--.[-]
   http://www.weirdnet.nl/
 



 --
 Francisco Valladolid H.
  -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-10 Thread Maurice Janssen

On 08/09/13 17:05, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:

Hi folks.

Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
storage and five rj45 ports.

Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?


Axiomtek NA-320R might be an alternative.  Rack mount, 6 gbit ports, 
CF-storage and Atom 1.6 GHz CPU.


Maurice



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-10 Thread Francisco Valladolid H.
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Maurice Janssen maur...@z74.net wrote:
 On 08/09/13 17:05, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:

 Hi folks.

 Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
 form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.

 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?


 Axiomtek NA-320R might be an alternative.  Rack mount, 6 gbit ports,
 CF-storage and Atom 1.6 GHz CPU.

Thank you Maurice, excellente recomendation.


 Maurice



-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-10 Thread Kaya Saman
On 08/10/2013 06:01 PM, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Maurice Janssen maur...@z74.net wrote:
 On 08/09/13 17:05, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:
 Hi folks.

 Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
 form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.

 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?

 Axiomtek NA-320R might be an alternative.  Rack mount, 6 gbit ports,
 CF-storage and Atom 1.6 GHz CPU.
 Thank you Maurice, excellente recomendation.

 Maurice


I know you say appliance however, how about an embedded system? Since 
you already run OpenBSD on a Mini-ITX system, a 1U rack chassis for 
Mini-ITX plus Intel based Network card should also give up to 6-7GbE 
ports plus SSD or other flash drive alternative..


e.g. http://www.steatite-embedded.co.uk/

as examples for chassis and systemboard.

It might not be what you want since you did say appliance but still it 
is a thought :-)


Regards,


Kaya



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-08-10, Maurice Janssen maur...@z74.net wrote:
 On 08/09/13 17:05, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:
 Hi folks.

 Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
 form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.

 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?

 Axiomtek NA-320R might be an alternative.  Rack mount, 6 gbit ports, 
 CF-storage and Atom 1.6 GHz CPU.

 Maurice



These can be hard to get via the usual axiomtek reseller channels, but these are
the same thing with a different front plate:

https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-openbsd-appliance-6a16e.html
https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-appliance-6a16er.html



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-10 Thread Bentley, Dain
I recommend the atom 1u by supermicro.  If you buy a pic riser with it  you can 
extend how many interfaces you have ( the board comes with two).  You can get a 
cheap SSD and your set.  I've been running one as a firewall-vpn for two years 
and it works great.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Francisco Valladolid H. fic...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks.
 
 Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
 form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.
 
 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.
 
 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?
 
 I'm disappointing using other network solutions with proprietary
 brands in the market.
 
 Best Regards.
 
 P.S sorry for my bad english.
 
 -- 
 Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.org - Jesus Christ follower.




Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-10 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 08:09:02PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
| These can be hard to get via the usual axiomtek reseller channels, but these 
are
| the same thing with a different front plate:
| 
| 
https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-openbsd-appliance-6a16e.html
| https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-appliance-6a16er.html

I have the 6a16e (i.e. the non-rackmountable version) and have been
very happy with it.  Highly recommmend it!

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

-- 
[++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+
+++-].++[-]+.--.[-]
 http://www.weirdnet.nl/ 



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-10 Thread Francisco Valladolid H.
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Paul de Weerd we...@weirdnet.nl wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 08:09:02PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
 | These can be hard to get via the usual axiomtek reseller channels, but 
 these are
 | the same thing with a different front plate:
 |
 | 
 https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-openbsd-appliance-6a16e.html
 | https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-appliance-6a16er.html

 I have the 6a16e (i.e. the non-rackmountable version) and have been
 very happy with it.  Highly recommmend it!

Thank you Paul.

This model is very expensive plus the shipping and import duties to Mexico..

Regards


 Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

 --
[++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+
 +++-].++[-]+.--.[-]
  http://www.weirdnet.nl/




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.



Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-09 Thread Francisco Valladolid H.
Hi folks.

Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
storage and five rj45 ports.

Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?

I'm disappointing using other network solutions with proprietary
brands in the market.

Best Regards.

P.S sorry for my bad english.

-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.org - Jesus Christ follower.



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-09 Thread Mikkel C. Simonsen

Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:

I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
storage and five rj45 ports.


RJ45 ports? 100Mbit? Gigabit?


Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?


If 100Mbit is fine, go with a Mini-ITX board and a 4-port Ethernet card 
in the PCI slot.


Best regards,

Mikkel C. Simonsen



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-09 Thread Hermes Ojeda Ruiz
I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little
expensive. (In México taxes are a big problem).

In two months I'll test ALIX appliances:
http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm

They are cheaper, but I don't know about their performance.


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Francisco Valladolid H.
fic...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi folks.

 Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
 form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.

 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?

 I'm disappointing using other network solutions with proprietary
 brands in the market.

 Best Regards.

 P.S sorry for my bad english.

 --
 Francisco Valladolid H.
  -- http://blog.bsdguy.org - Jesus Christ follower.




--
Hermes Ojeda Ruiz
LogicalBricks Solutions
http://logicalbricks.com



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-09 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Hermes Ojeda Ruiz [hermes@gmail.com] wrote:
 I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little
 expensive. (In M?xico taxes are a big problem).
 
 In two months I'll test ALIX appliances:
 http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm
 
 They are cheaper, but I don't know about their performance.
 

The ALIX chipset is identical to the Soekris 5501. The rest of the 
hardware on the ALIX was much more reliable than the 5501 from day 1.
Makes the price difference ironic...



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-09 Thread Francisco Valladolid H.
I think

mini-ITX boards are ok, but I need a integrated solutions.

Soekris is fine but lack of characteristics. 1gb rj45 port, etc.

it http://www.calyptix.com/portfolio/ae1200/ look fine.

Regards.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk wrote:
 Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:

 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.


 RJ45 ports? 100Mbit? Gigabit?


 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?


 If 100Mbit is fine, go with a Mini-ITX board and a 4-port Ethernet card in
 the PCI slot.

 Best regards,

 Mikkel C. Simonsen




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-09 Thread Francisco Valladolid H.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Hermes Ojeda Ruiz hermes@gmail.com wrote:
 I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little
 expensive. (In México taxes are a big problem).

Yes, taxes and import duties are a pain.
I have a pair of Soekris 4501 running OpenBSD 4.6 yet!


 In two months I'll test ALIX appliances:
 http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm

I don't found rack cases for this cards.


 They are cheaper, but I don't know about their performance.

The throughput in this nic is low ~ 50mbps



I'm watching http://www.liantec.com/product/emboard/EMB-5842 look fine
and have a high throughput.


 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Francisco Valladolid H.
 fic...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi folks.

 Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
 form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.

 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?

 I'm disappointing using other network solutions with proprietary
 brands in the market.

 Best Regards.

 P.S sorry for my bad english.

 --
 Francisco Valladolid H.
  -- http://blog.bsdguy.org - Jesus Christ follower.




 --
 Hermes Ojeda Ruiz
 LogicalBricks Solutions
 http://logicalbricks.com




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-09 Thread William Ahern
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:50:19PM -0500, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Hermes Ojeda Ruiz hermes@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little
  expensive. (In M?xico taxes are a big problem).
 
 Yes, taxes and import duties are a pain.
 I have a pair of Soekris 4501 running OpenBSD 4.6 yet!
 
 
  In two months I'll test ALIX appliances:
  http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm
 
 I don't found rack cases for this cards.
 

Try netgate.com. They resell and repackage from various vendors, including
PC Engines. They sell ALIX boards in 1U cases.

I need to upgrade my ALIX board 'cause it's too slow for IPSec, even with
the VPN card.

Intel just came out with new Atom chips with ECC support.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182782

It might be easier and cheaper to just toss that into a 1U case.



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-09 Thread Francisco Valladolid H.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM, William Ahern
will...@25thandclement.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:50:19PM -0500, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Hermes Ojeda Ruiz hermes@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little
  expensive. (In M?xico taxes are a big problem).

 Yes, taxes and import duties are a pain.
 I have a pair of Soekris 4501 running OpenBSD 4.6 yet!

 
  In two months I'll test ALIX appliances:
  http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm

 I don't found rack cases for this cards.


 Try netgate.com. They resell and repackage from various vendors, including
 PC Engines. They sell ALIX boards in 1U cases.

Good choice.!

 I need to upgrade my ALIX board 'cause it's too slow for IPSec, even with
 the VPN card.

fine.


 Intel just came out with new Atom chips with ECC support.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182782


Thank you for the link.
 It might be easier and cheaper to just toss that into a 1U case.



-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.



Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-09 Thread Bentley, Dain
I second this.  An atom board with ECC and a pci NiC to add the ports you need 
is a great solution.  I have a supermicro running and the performance is 
fantastic.

I think you can get an 1u barebones for a good price 

On Aug 9, 2013, at 9:27 PM, William Ahern will...@25thandclement.com wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:50:19PM -0500, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Hermes Ojeda Ruiz hermes@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little
 expensive. (In M?xico taxes are a big problem).
 
 Yes, taxes and import duties are a pain.
 I have a pair of Soekris 4501 running OpenBSD 4.6 yet!
 
 
 In two months I'll test ALIX appliances:
 http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm
 
 I don't found rack cases for this cards.
 
 Try netgate.com. They resell and repackage from various vendors, including
 PC Engines. They sell ALIX boards in 1U cases.
 
 I need to upgrade my ALIX board 'cause it's too slow for IPSec, even with
 the VPN card.
 
 Intel just came out with new Atom chips with ECC support.
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182782
 
 It might be easier and cheaper to just toss that into a 1U case.