Re: New user trying to plan for upgrade
Thanks to all as an inexperienced user in the process, my choice in this
area was more of self-protection should I mishandle the upgrade process
at some point in time. It's nice to see so many indicate I am probably
being overly protective.
Tomas Bodzar wrote:
With snapshots I follow this line :
1) download latest bsd.rd and place it in /
2) reboot and boot from bsd.rd
3) choose (U)pgrade
4) after upgrade reboot
5) # sysmerge -s your_favorite_mirror/etcXX.tgz -x
your_favorite_mirror/xetcXX.tgz
6) sometimes reboot sometimes no change so no reboot
7) sudo pkg_add -vu
I'm doing it for around 2 years and no data loss in /home or any other
part of system and my config files are ok. I tested this even when
upgrading from eg. 4.5 to 4.6, but of course that in both cases you
must read current.hml in first case and upgradeXX.html in second case
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:23 AM, David Shuman d.shu...@att.net wrote:
It appears there are issues and processes that require
the maintenance of config files and the like after an
upgrade of OpenBSD. As I am relatively new to this
process I intend to create two directories in my home
directory to keep copies of all my alterations to
OpenBSD. I hope these will assist me in the upgrade
process and protect me from loss of data/etc as I
understand the home directories are protected from
changes during the recovery process. If anyone
can point out the limitations or additional
considerations related to this process I would
appreciate the guidance. (I have made some
significant post install changes to Comixwall that
was based on OpenBSD 4.3 a while ago. However,
I have never seriously considered assuring I could
upgrade an OpenBSD system. As I am now
considering significant and long term use I need to
plan for this event.)
One directory will contain modifications
/home/{userid}/chgusr where
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/rc.local
{80x50 console changes)
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/X11/xorg.conf
{modified due to difficult hardware)
Another directory will contain additions
/home/{userid}/addusr
(djbdns a bind replacement may be in here)
where the subdirectories are the locations the
content was added to OpenBSD. I am hoping
this content can be copied after an update as
it is not a part of OpenBSD making upgrades
easier for me.
Thanks for considering and assisting in advance.
Re: New user trying to plan for upgrade
It's OpenBSD. As I test/use more then one OS I can confirm that only
problematic part on OpenBSD is user not system :-) Can't say same
about other OS's. They are missing
http://www.openbsd.org/papers/asiabsdcon2009-release_engineering/
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:43 PM, David Shuman d.shu...@att.net wrote:
Thanks to all as an inexperienced user in the process, my choice in this
area was more of self-protection should I mishandle the upgrade process at
some point in time. B It's nice to see so many indicate I am probably being
overly protective.
Tomas Bodzar wrote:
With snapshots I follow this line :
1) download latest bsd.rd and place it in /
2) reboot and boot from bsd.rd
3) choose (U)pgrade
4) after upgrade reboot
5) # sysmerge -s your_favorite_mirror/etcXX.tgz -x
your_favorite_mirror/xetcXX.tgz
6) sometimes reboot sometimes no change so no reboot
7) sudo pkg_add -vu
I'm doing it for around 2 years and no data loss in /home or any other
part of system and my config files are ok. I tested this even when
upgrading from eg. 4.5 to 4.6, but of course that in both cases you
must read current.hml in first case and upgradeXX.html in second case
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:23 AM, David Shuman d.shu...@att.net wrote:
It appears there are issues and processes that require
the maintenance of config files and the like after an
upgrade of OpenBSD. B As I am relatively new to this
process I intend to create two directories in my home
directory to keep copies of all my alterations to
OpenBSD. I hope these will assist me in the upgrade
process and protect me from loss of data/etc as I
understand the home directories are protected from
changes during the recovery process. B If anyone
can point out the limitations or additional
considerations related to this process I would
appreciate the guidance. B (I have made some
significant post install changes to Comixwall that
was based on OpenBSD 4.3 a while ago. B However,
I have never seriously considered assuring I could
upgrade an OpenBSD system. B As I am now
considering significant and long term use I need to
plan for this event.)
One directory will contain modifications
/home/{userid}/chgusr B B B where
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/rc.local
B B {80x50 console changes)
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/X11/xorg.conf
B B {modified due to difficult hardware)
Another directory will contain additions
/home/{userid}/addusr
(djbdns a bind replacement may be in here)
where the subdirectories are the locations the
content was added to OpenBSD. B I am hoping
this content can be copied after an update as
it is not a part of OpenBSD making upgrades
easier for me.
Thanks for considering and assisting in advance.
Re: New user trying to plan for upgrade
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Paul M wrote: On 22/12/2009, at 2:23 PM, David Shuman wrote: It appears there are issues and processes that require the maintenance of config files and the like after an upgrade of OpenBSD. I prefer to merge directories with mc - allows visual comparison of individual file timestamps sizes very quickly intuitively. Blow out the new /etc (or /var/www, ..) into a temporary directory structure and f5 f6 away. Also has a 'compare directory' function that highlights updated files, though that is not as usable as just scanning for the release timestamp. Lee
Re: New user trying to plan for upgrade
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:43 -0500, David Shuman d.shu...@att.net wrote: Thanks to all as an inexperienced user in the process, my choice in this area was more of self-protection should I mishandle the upgrade process at some point in time. It's nice to see so many indicate I am probably being overly protective. I re-install often (do not upgrade). To me, upgrades seem wrong no matter the OS. If you have good, working backups and have properly documented your setup, then you'll be fine doing clean installs. Brad
Re: New user trying to plan for upgrade
What is wrong with /var/backups ? I like tp have all those config files, ALL and in one place. L. V. Lammert wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Paul M wrote: On 22/12/2009, at 2:23 PM, David Shuman wrote: It appears there are issues and processes that require the maintenance of config files and the like after an upgrade of OpenBSD. I prefer to merge directories with mc - allows visual comparison of individual file timestamps sizes very quickly intuitively. Blow out the new /etc (or /var/www, ..) into a temporary directory structure and f5 f6 away. Also has a 'compare directory' function that highlights updated files, though that is not as usable as just scanning for the release timestamp. Lee
New user trying to plan for upgrade
It appears there are issues and processes that require
the maintenance of config files and the like after an
upgrade of OpenBSD. As I am relatively new to this
process I intend to create two directories in my home
directory to keep copies of all my alterations to
OpenBSD. I hope these will assist me in the upgrade
process and protect me from loss of data/etc as I
understand the home directories are protected from
changes during the recovery process. If anyone
can point out the limitations or additional
considerations related to this process I would
appreciate the guidance. (I have made some
significant post install changes to Comixwall that
was based on OpenBSD 4.3 a while ago. However,
I have never seriously considered assuring I could
upgrade an OpenBSD system. As I am now
considering significant and long term use I need to
plan for this event.)
One directory will contain modifications
/home/{userid}/chgusr where
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/rc.local
{80x50 console changes)
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/X11/xorg.conf
{modified due to difficult hardware)
Another directory will contain additions
/home/{userid}/addusr
(djbdns a bind replacement may be in here)
where the subdirectories are the locations the
content was added to OpenBSD. I am hoping
this content can be copied after an update as
it is not a part of OpenBSD making upgrades
easier for me.
Thanks for considering and assisting in advance.
Re: New user trying to plan for upgrade
David Shuman wrote:
It appears there are issues and processes that require
the maintenance of config files and the like after an
upgrade of OpenBSD. As I am relatively new to this
process I intend to create two directories in my home
directory to keep copies of all my alterations to
OpenBSD. I hope these will assist me in the upgrade
process and protect me from loss of data/etc as I
understand the home directories are protected from
changes during the recovery process. If anyone
can point out the limitations or additional
considerations related to this process I would
appreciate the guidance. (I have made some
significant post install changes to Comixwall that
was based on OpenBSD 4.3 a while ago. However,
I have never seriously considered assuring I could
upgrade an OpenBSD system. As I am now
considering significant and long term use I need to
plan for this event.)
One directory will contain modifications
/home/{userid}/chgusr where
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/rc.local
{80x50 console changes)
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/X11/xorg.conf
{modified due to difficult hardware)
Another directory will contain additions
/home/{userid}/addusr
(djbdns a bind replacement may be in here)
where the subdirectories are the locations the
content was added to OpenBSD. I am hoping
this content can be copied after an update as
it is not a part of OpenBSD making upgrades
easier for me.
Thanks for considering and assisting in advance.
read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade44.html
This page describes 4.3 - 4.4 upgrade (Not re-install)
tar czvpf etc43.tar.gz /etc
tar czvpf home43.tar.gz /home
tar czvpf my_wierd_program_binaries.tar.gz insert list of this stuff,
if any
sftp
or
mkisofs
cdio -f
whatever, to get off of computer completely if you can't lose this stuff.
You are doing this anyway regularly. Right!?
wonderful sysmerge will drag you through full list of stuff it wants to
change, letting you control all of it.
--
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-- Robert Heinlein
Re: New user trying to plan for upgrade
On 22/12/2009, at 2:23 PM, David Shuman wrote:
It appears there are issues and processes that require
the maintenance of config files and the like after an
upgrade of OpenBSD. As I am relatively new to this
process I intend to create two directories in my home
directory to keep copies of all my alterations to
OpenBSD. I hope these will assist me in the upgrade
process and protect me from loss of data/etc as I
understand the home directories are protected from
changes during the recovery process. If anyone
can point out the limitations or additional
considerations related to this process I would
appreciate the guidance. (I have made some
significant post install changes to Comixwall that
was based on OpenBSD 4.3 a while ago. However,
I have never seriously considered assuring I could
upgrade an OpenBSD system. As I am now
considering significant and long term use I need to
plan for this event.)
One directory will contain modifications
/home/{userid}/chgusr where
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/rc.local
{80x50 console changes)
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/X11/xorg.conf
{modified due to difficult hardware)
Another directory will contain additions
/home/{userid}/addusr
(djbdns a bind replacement may be in here)
where the subdirectories are the locations the
content was added to OpenBSD. I am hoping
this content can be copied after an update as
it is not a part of OpenBSD making upgrades
easier for me.
Thanks for considering and assisting in advance.
I dont know whether you need it or not, or whether it's practical in
your situation, but concider using find(1) to find config files
changed since the install.
paulm
Re: New user trying to plan for upgrade
With snapshots I follow this line :
1) download latest bsd.rd and place it in /
2) reboot and boot from bsd.rd
3) choose (U)pgrade
4) after upgrade reboot
5) # sysmerge -s your_favorite_mirror/etcXX.tgz -x
your_favorite_mirror/xetcXX.tgz
6) sometimes reboot sometimes no change so no reboot
7) sudo pkg_add -vu
I'm doing it for around 2 years and no data loss in /home or any other
part of system and my config files are ok. I tested this even when
upgrading from eg. 4.5 to 4.6, but of course that in both cases you
must read current.hml in first case and upgradeXX.html in second case
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:23 AM, David Shuman d.shu...@att.net wrote:
It appears there are issues and processes that require
the maintenance of config files and the like after an
upgrade of OpenBSD. B As I am relatively new to this
process I intend to create two directories in my home
directory to keep copies of all my alterations to
OpenBSD. I hope these will assist me in the upgrade
process and protect me from loss of data/etc as I
understand the home directories are protected from
changes during the recovery process. B If anyone
can point out the limitations or additional
considerations related to this process I would
appreciate the guidance. B (I have made some
significant post install changes to Comixwall that
was based on OpenBSD 4.3 a while ago. B However,
I have never seriously considered assuring I could
upgrade an OpenBSD system. B As I am now
considering significant and long term use I need to
plan for this event.)
One directory will contain modifications
/home/{userid}/chgusr B B B where
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/rc.local
B B {80x50 console changes)
/home/{userid}/chgusr/etc/X11/xorg.conf
B B {modified due to difficult hardware)
Another directory will contain additions
/home/{userid}/addusr
(djbdns a bind replacement may be in here)
where the subdirectories are the locations the
content was added to OpenBSD. B I am hoping
this content can be copied after an update as
it is not a part of OpenBSD making upgrades
easier for me.
Thanks for considering and assisting in advance.
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