Re: I hate Spam

2011-05-12 Thread Indunil Jayasooriya
 and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists.

 I only receive a couple a day - no problem at all.

I have subscribed to misc , ipv6 and tech. I am free from spam too.

works great. No, problem at all.







-- 
Thank you
Indunil Jayasooriya



Re: I hate Spam

2011-05-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
In gmane.os.openbsd.misc, you wrote:
 I'm new to this list and to OpenBSD,  and currently signed up for misc,
 ports and www lists, 

 and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists.

Most of it is on www@ (because the address is at the bottom of
many of the web pages), unsubscribe from that and you'll see a big
reduction.

 Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ?

Personally I read these lists on gmane.org via NNTP, using slrn
with decent killfiles which get rid of a lot of the junk (and
even better, can killfile a thread or an annoying person with
about 3 keypresses, which saves way more time than the spam
filtering).



Re: I hate Spam

2011-05-12 Thread Bayard Bell
Not wanting to end up in your killfile, but... what I've noticed is that I 
don't see any English-language spam at all on any of the lists. What I do see 
when periodically checking my junk folders for false positives is spam in 
Spanish, Russian, and maybe a bit of Chinese, French, and Portuguese. I don't 
say that to complain, just to observe. If someone more bothered wants to pitch 
in, download the last year or so of archives and knock yourself finding a way 
to extend the existing protections to catch non-English spam without, saying, 
deciding that posts containing patches are spam because they aren't in English.

On 11 May 2011, at 20:11, Stuart Henderson wrote:

 In gmane.os.openbsd.misc, you wrote:
 I'm new to this list and to OpenBSD,  and currently signed up for misc,
 ports and www lists, 
 
 and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists.
 
 Most of it is on www@ (because the address is at the bottom of
 many of the web pages), unsubscribe from that and you'll see a big
 reduction.
 
 Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ?
 
 Personally I read these lists on gmane.org via NNTP, using slrn
 with decent killfiles which get rid of a lot of the junk (and
 even better, can killfile a thread or an annoying person with
 about 3 keypresses, which saves way more time than the spam
 filtering).
 



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Re: I hate Spam

2011-05-12 Thread Hasse Hansson
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] Pe vegne af
Stuart Henderson
Sendt: den 11 maj 2011 21:11
Til: SpamTrap
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Emne: Re: I hate Spam

In gmane.os.openbsd.misc, you wrote:
 I'm new to this list and to OpenBSD,  and currently signed up for misc,
 ports and www lists,

 and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists.

Most of it is on www@ (because the address is at the bottom of
many of the web pages), unsubscribe from that and you'll see a big
reduction.

 Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ?

Personally I read these lists on gmane.org via NNTP, using slrn
with decent killfiles which get rid of a lot of the junk (and
even better, can killfile a thread or an annoying person with
about 3 keypresses, which saves way more time than the spam
filtering).


Thank you for your answer.

Yes, looks like you're right about www.
Think I will drop that list. Not because of the spam, but it don't seem to
be very productive anyway.

This far, the mail I receive from the OpenBSD lists, approximately 25% is
spam, ( subscribed for 3 days )
and that made me a bit curious, because I'm also subscribed to several list
at FreeBSD but don't see this pattern there.

The main reason for me bringing up this subject, is to try to get a grip on
the 3 tools I'm using. Spamd, spamassassin and procmail.

The relevant part of my sendmail.cf :
dnl
FEATURE(local_procmail)dnl
MAILER(procmail)dnl
MAILER(smtp)dnl
INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`clmilter',`S=local:/var/clamav/clmilter.sock, F=,
T=S:4m;R:4m')dnl
Dnl

Spamd : enabled greylisting

Spamassassin : edited local.cf and manually added blacklist_from entries.

Procmail : my procmailrc looks like this:
DROPPRIVS=yes
:0fw
| /usr/local/bin/spamc
:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
in-x-spam

I suspect the key to success is to configure procmailrc in a proper way ?

Open for all suggestions, pointers in the right direction etc.

And yes, I have tried googling and reading man pages, but off course missed
the point :-)

/Hasse



Re: I hate Spam

2011-05-11 Thread John Cosimano
--- SpamTrap [Wed, May 11, 2011 at 04:51:19PM +0200]: --- 
 I'm new to this list and to OpenBSD,  and currently signed up for misc,
 ports and www lists, 
 
 and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists.

taken from:

http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html

 The OpenBSD mailing lists use spamd(8) in greylisting mode as well as
 SpamAssassin to keep down the spam volume but things do sneak
 through--deal with it. In addition, the list server also has regex-based
 rules to reject based on some common spam and virus telltales. If you
 get spam through one of the OpenBSD mailing lists, you don't need to
 send a copy to the list owner--chances are he's already seen it. Also,
 please do not submit spam received through the mailing lists to spamcop
 as this will result in the list server being added to their RBL.
 Complaining about and commenting upon spam on the list proper is
 counter-productive as it generates more traffic than the spam itself.



Re: I hate Spam

2011-05-11 Thread Mikkel C. Simonsen

OpenBSD MailingList wrote:

and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists.


I only receive a couple a day - no problem at all.


Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ?


I use the messages that pass through for training bogofilter :)

Best regards,

Mikkel C. Simonsen



Re: I hate Spam

2011-05-11 Thread rancor
I second that!

Some must live the perfect life if a couple of spam messages is considered
as a problem.

I often use a key on my keyboard named Delete, takes no time at all and I
can sleep well at night.

// rancor

2011/5/11 Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk

 OpenBSD MailingList wrote:

 and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists.


 I only receive a couple a day - no problem at all.

  Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ?


 I use the messages that pass through for training bogofilter :)

 Best regards,

 Mikkel C. Simonsen



Re: I hate Spam

2011-05-11 Thread Hasse Hansson
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] Pe vegne af
rancor
Sendt: den 11 maj 2011 21:33
Til: OpenBSD MailingList; misc@openbsd.org
Emne: Re: I hate Spam

I second that!

Some must live the perfect life if a couple of spam messages is considered
as a problem.

I often use a key on my keyboard named Delete, takes no time at all and I
can sleep well at night.

// rancor

2011/5/11 Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk

 OpenBSD MailingList wrote:

 and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists.


 I only receive a couple a day - no problem at all.

  Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ?


 I use the messages that pass through for training bogofilter :)

 Best regards,

 Mikkel C. Simonsen

Thanks for the answers.
Apparently I didn't make myself clear enough.
I'm not complaining about a couple of spam-mails.
I posted this message to try to learn something from more experienced users.
Like tips  tricks on the mentioned spamd and spamassassin, hell yeah, even
sendmail.
So tips like the above, are especially valuable.

snip
I often use a key on my keyboard named Delete, takes no time at all and I
can sleep well at night.
/snip

All the best
/Hasse