Re: Transparent bridge rdr SSH traffic

2006-09-28 Thread Johan L

Karsten McMinn skrev:

On 9/27/06, Jason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Think about it.  How would sshd communicate with you without an IP
address?  Seems to defy the laws of TCP/IP.


I'd concede that its more akin to bending than defying laws (RFCs).

with enough will and some legwork you might be able to get
further with renumbering lo(4) and using rdr.  it would be a fun
feature to run a ethernet interface in half bridge mode, but
in the meantime just get a third interface outside of the bridge
group.



Half bridge mode sounds cool :).
So my only way out is to add a third interface to the OpenBSD server 
with a public ip address? Right?




Re: Transparent bridge rdr SSH traffic

2006-09-28 Thread Guido Tschakert
Johan L wrote:
 Karsten McMinn skrev:
 On 9/27/06, Jason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Think about it.  How would sshd communicate with you without an IP
 address?  Seems to defy the laws of TCP/IP.

 I'd concede that its more akin to bending than defying laws (RFCs).

 with enough will and some legwork you might be able to get
 further with renumbering lo(4) and using rdr.  it would be a fun
 feature to run a ethernet interface in half bridge mode, but
 in the meantime just get a third interface outside of the bridge
 group.

 
 Half bridge mode sounds cool :).
 So my only way out is to add a third interface to the OpenBSD server
 with a public ip address? Right?
 
 
Wrong!

You can give an interface a ip address and use the same interface in
your bridge configuration.
(I do not say that this is the best configuration)

You can do very funny things with bridge configuration and ip
configuration.

At home I have one interface working as access point. This interface is
also member of a bridge, the only member! I only use this bridge to
filter mac adresses (ok, please no discussion about faking mac addresses)

cheers
guido



Re: Transparent bridge rdr SSH traffic

2006-09-27 Thread Thomas Börnert
yes i tried, but it doesn't work, you need an ip adress on sis0

Thomas

On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 22:23 +0200, Johan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We are trying to put an OpenBSD server (3.9 with all patches) between an 
 ADSL modem and a commercial firewall.
 Using transparent bridge and PF, is it possible to redirect all SSH 
 traffic arriving at sis0 to 127.0.0.1 on the OpenBSD server and pass all 
 other traffic the the existing firewall?
 We still want the existing firewall to get the (only) public ip via dhcp 
 from the ADSL modem.
 Must the bridge (sis1 or sis0) have a public ip for this to work?
 We have been trying google/groups and alot of different setups in 
 pf.conf wihtout any luck.
 Is this setup possible at all?
 Any help, hints or suggestions would be much appreciated!
 
 Regards
 
 Johan Linnir
 
 
  DHCP ExtInt
 | ADSL |-   -| Firewall |
 |   |
 -|---|-
 |sis0|   |sis1|bridge0
 -|---|-
  |   |
  ---
  | OpenBSD |
  |  sshd   |
  |127.0.0.1|
  ---



Re: Transparent bridge rdr SSH traffic

2006-09-27 Thread Jason Dixon

On Sep 27, 2006, at 4:23 PM, Johan wrote:


Hi,

We are trying to put an OpenBSD server (3.9 with all patches)  
between an ADSL modem and a commercial firewall.
Using transparent bridge and PF, is it possible to redirect all SSH  
traffic arriving at sis0 to 127.0.0.1 on the OpenBSD server and  
pass all other traffic the the existing firewall?
We still want the existing firewall to get the (only) public ip via  
dhcp from the ADSL modem.

Must the bridge (sis1 or sis0) have a public ip for this to work?
We have been trying google/groups and alot of different setups in  
pf.conf wihtout any luck.

Is this setup possible at all?
Any help, hints or suggestions would be much appreciated!


Think about it.  How would sshd communicate with you without an IP  
address?  Seems to defy the laws of TCP/IP.


--
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net



Re: Transparent bridge rdr SSH traffic

2006-09-27 Thread John Brooks
How about adding a third nic to both the openbsd and firewall,
give them their own private network addresses, then redirect
the ssh traffic from firewall to openbsd over this new network

forgive my poor attempts at modifying your drawing ;-)

--
John Brooks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

...
 Any help, hints or suggestions would be much appreciated!
 
 Regards
 
 Johan Linnir
 
 
  DHCP ExtInt
 | ADSL |--   | Firewall |
  |   |   
 -|---|-   | 10.1.1.1
 |sis0|   |sis1|bridge0|
 -|---|-   |
  |   ||
  ---  |
  | OpenBSD | 10.1.1.2 |
  |  sshd   |---
  | | fxp0
  ---



Re: Transparent bridge rdr SSH traffic

2006-09-27 Thread Karsten McMinn

On 9/27/06, Jason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Think about it.  How would sshd communicate with you without an IP
address?  Seems to defy the laws of TCP/IP.


I'd concede that its more akin to bending than defying laws (RFCs).

with enough will and some legwork you might be able to get
further with renumbering lo(4) and using rdr.  it would be a fun
feature to run a ethernet interface in half bridge mode, but
in the meantime just get a third interface outside of the bridge
group.