Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-28 Thread Alexander Salmin

On 2015-11-27 05:13, li...@wrant.com wrote:

For USB I am using the run(4) driver for Ralink 802.11n product
Netsys98N but my head hurts a bit while using it.

You're most probably imagining the headache part or you have some sort
of astigmatism (or another eye focus related condition you're unaware
of), go "see" an optician who can also fix your wireless power rating
psychosomatic (look and) feel.
It is possible that you are right, I'll start use my tinfoil hat and be 
safe.

http://www.dx.com/p/netsys-98n-2-4ghz-4200mw-high-power-802-11b-g-n-150mbps-usb-wi-fi-wireless-network-adapter-93722#.Vled1noy30M

This is very likely false rating as the USB 2.0 port is rated 500 mA at
5 V DC (which usually drops to 4.75 V under full load) delivering up to
2500 mW at maximum power drain.  Probably would be interesting to
actually ask the maker what's this stupid lie and see what they come up
with.  Also with these phoney devices, the 9 dBi antennas are usually
just 5 dBi in a longer plastic casing, an incredibly brain damaged trick.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB

Thanks for the explanation. Using the run(4) driver for this is OK since
I only use it as client when I need *extreme* range and not for hostap 
mode purposes.




Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-28 Thread Alexander Salmin

On 2015-11-27 08:48, Tati Chevron wrote:



- TP-Link TL-WN851ND
Works on OpenBSD. 


On 2015-11-27 08:52, Jason McIntyre wrote:

anyway i currently have a tp-link tl-wn881nd (so close!). it's an athn
and has worked perfectly. it was very cheap, though i don;t remember the
price.

jmc

Bought and tested both TP-Link WN881ND and TP-Link TL-WN851ND.
Confirmed that both works very well.

Thanks.



Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-27 Thread Tati Chevron

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 10:59:53AM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote:

>I want OpenBSD in hostap mode with PCI or PCIe ath / athn driver.

Be aware that hostap mode is not particularly reliable, usable, or with
good peformance at the moment.


What does at the moment mean?


I've not had chance to really test hostap mode with a real workload on 5.8 yet, 
but I did test it using ath, athn, and ral with every -release up to 5.7 since 
I've had the hardware.  I saw very little if any change in performance, which 
was not surprising as the code has not changed much..


I've only just upgraded to 5.8 and I did notice whatsapp not being
quite so snappy but 5.6 seemed (no real testing) both reliable and
usable for us?


I experienced slow performance, the transmission mode dropping under heavy 
loads, and random hangs.

Incidentally, the existing code for many wireless chipsets doesn't set the 
usable channels correctly, based on the regdomain.  The only way to prevent 
usage of unavailable channels seems to be by modifying the source.

--
Tati Chevron
Perl and FORTRAN specialist.
SWABSIT development and migration department.
http://www.swabsit.com



Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-27 Thread lists
> > What usb are you using as
> > the ones i tried a while back weren't much good though there have been
> > changes to the drivers since so probably worth trying again?

USB wireless devices are usually quite flaky at the miniUSB connector
end (or need re-soldering, and cables malfunction over time), rarely
have hostap mode, and are a total nuisance to use.

My netbook (2010) arrived with Atheros AR-9285 which is athn(4) miniPCIe
half length, you can surely find similar devices online cheap and stick
it in a PCI to PCIe adaptor (electrical converter only).  It works OK
in hostap mode verified and using it frequently.

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man4/athn.4

> For USB I am using the run(4) driver for Ralink 802.11n product 
> Netsys98N but my head hurts a bit while using it.

The run(4) devices do NOT currently support hostap mode.

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man4/run.4

You can look for a TP-Link (cheap) high power device with an Atheros
chipset, these are usually noisy but still work above average.  I have
a TL-WN7200ND, it is run(4) and works fine in client only mode.

You're most probably imagining the headache part or you have some sort
of astigmatism (or another eye focus related condition you're unaware
of), go "see" an optician who can also fix your wireless power rating
psychosomatic (look and) feel.

> Not so good for 
> long-term use. :-) Works extremely well though, very long-range. But 
> still, looking for PCI/PCIe.
> 
> http://www.dx.com/p/netsys-98n-2-4ghz-4200mw-high-power-802-11b-g-n-150mbps-usb-wi-fi-wireless-network-adapter-93722#.Vled1noy30M

This is very likely false rating as the USB 2.0 port is rated 500 mA at
5 V DC (which usually drops to 4.75 V under full load) delivering up to
2500 mW at maximum power drain.  Probably would be interesting to
actually ask the maker what's this stupid lie and see what they come up
with.  Also with these phoney devices, the 9 dBi antennas are usually
just 5 dBi in a longer plastic casing, an incredibly brain damaged trick.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB



Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-27 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> >I want OpenBSD in hostap mode with PCI or PCIe ath / athn driver.  
> 
> Be aware that hostap mode is not particularly reliable, usable, or with
> good peformance at the moment.

What does at the moment mean?

I've only just upgraded to 5.8 and I did notice whatsapp not being
quite so snappy but 5.6 seemed (no real testing) both reliable and
usable for us?

-- 

KISSIS - Keep It Simple So It's Securable



Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-27 Thread Alexander Salmin

On 2015-11-27 08:48, Tati Chevron wrote:

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 12:08:37AM +0100, Alexander Salmin wrote:

I want OpenBSD in hostap mode with PCI or PCIe ath / athn driver.


Be aware that hostap mode is not particularly reliable, usable, or with
good peformance at the moment.


That's OK, my purpose is not production.

- TP-Link TL-WN851ND


Works on OpenBSD.

I also got information off-list that also TP-Link TL-WN881ND works well.
I found a store which has both of them, so I'll go buy these today and see.

Thanks everyone.

Alexander



Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-26 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I want OpenBSD in hostap mode with PCI or PCIe ath / athn driver.
> 
> 
> If you recently bought a PCI or PCIe wireless card with atheros chipset
> that works for OpenBSD, please report which name/model/manufacturer and 
> preferably ~buydate so we know if its recently or might been replaced by 
> new version.
> 
> Cards I have not yet tested which I'm thinking of buying, any advise on 
> these?
> Both are quite cheap.
> 
> - TP-Link TL-WN851ND
> - TP-Link TL-WDN4800

Don't know about PCI but could get cardbus adaptor for d-link DWA-652
that works well for me or look up it's chip. What usb are you using as
the ones i tried a while back weren't much good though there have been
changes to the drivers since so probably worth trying again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D-Link-DWA-652-Xtreme-N-Wireless-Notebook-Adapter-Draft-/400461073245?hash=item5d3d570b5d:g:HdsAAOxyrP9RZur0

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Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-26 Thread Alexander Salmin

Don't know about PCI but could get cardbus adaptor for d-link DWA-652
that works well for me or look up it's chip. What usb are you using as
the ones i tried a while back weren't much good though there have been
changes to the drivers since so probably worth trying again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D-Link-DWA-652-Xtreme-N-Wireless-Notebook-Adapter-Draft-/400461073245?hash=item5d3d570b5d:g:HdsAAOxyrP9RZur0

For USB I am using the run(4) driver for Ralink 802.11n product 
Netsys98N but my head hurts a bit while using it. Not so good for 
long-term use. :-) Works extremely well though, very long-range. But 
still, looking for PCI/PCIe.


http://www.dx.com/p/netsys-98n-2-4ghz-4200mw-high-power-802-11b-g-n-150mbps-usb-wi-fi-wireless-network-adapter-93722#.Vled1noy30M



Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-26 Thread Tati Chevron

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 12:08:37AM +0100, Alexander Salmin wrote:

I want OpenBSD in hostap mode with PCI or PCIe ath / athn driver.


Be aware that hostap mode is not particularly reliable, usable, or with
good peformance at the moment.


- TP-Link TL-WN851ND


Works on OpenBSD.

--
Tati Chevron
Perl and FORTRAN specialist.
SWABSIT development and migration department.
http://www.swabsit.com