Re: broken dependencies ?

2008-06-22 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 08:35:32AM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Back in time I switched from -release to -current

 The date of the snapshot is 19-June

 And here is the surprise:  a lot of unexpected
 errors on install using pkg_add: Can't install package...: Can't
 resolve lib
 Of course ekiga is highly dependent of gnome stuff, so you get a lot
 of install. First errors are encountered on cairo and pongo stuff,
 related to gnome.

 I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD
 computer is almost not installed, without X. Please send and idea, am
 I doing something wrong ?

install the X sets.

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Re: broken dependencies ?

2008-06-22 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:

Hello all,

Back in time I switched from -release to -current, but I'm installing
from snapshots. I saw the announce about uvideo stuff and I am very
interested about this that's why I installed the most recent snapshot
for testing. The date of the snapshot is 19-June, I also proceeded to
install some packages to test the video camera. One package people
speak about is ekiga. And here is the surprise:  a lot of unexpected
errors on install using pkg_add: Can't install package...: Can't
resolve lib
Of course ekiga is highly dependent of gnome stuff, so you get a lot
of install. First errors are encountered on cairo and pongo stuff,
related to gnome.

I tried to install gnome-session all together, but the errors are present.

  
Snapshots of packages in my understanding are provided for convenience  
and are not  well  synchronized. If you are using a snapshot I would 
stick with ports. There is no guaranties that

even than everything will  work  perfect but  it might like in  my  case:-)

I would not expect at this point  for  Ekiga  to  recognize that you 
have  a USB camera even if your camera is supported by uvideo driver. I 
tried to test 2 very cheap USB cameras that I have.
They are according to some documents are UVC devices which is the only 
type of USB cameras that OpenBSD is supporting.  They were not 
recognized by kernel but I was not to optimistic anyway. Unless you 
camera is listed


http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/

I would not expect too much. You can also look for Windows Vista
complaint cameras because it looks like those are UVC complaint.

To be honest with you I didn't particularly like the tone of your 
message and I am not even developer. If you are testing something

be patient and be ready for failures. If you just want things to work
stick with 4.3 release which is well tested.

If you need VoIP with video your best bet is Linux.
As far as I know Ekiga with video can work on FreeBSD if you have 
Philips chip-set camera. Even then you need to make some custom patches.


I personally tested Ekiga and Skype (which is not a SIP phone) with 
video on Ubuntu, CentOS, and OpenSUSE and things were working as expected.


Kind Regards,
Predrag


Don't bother to tell about relation from kernel and glibc , I waited
for the packages to be close to the kernel compilation date. IT should
work. I don't complain, but what I can do. I am not sure about a
diagnose, I think The packages are broken. But I'm not an expert and I
don't want to make stupid appreciation on others people great work.

I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD
computer is almost not installed, without X. Please send and idea, am
I doing something wrong ?
The other way will be to use anonymous cvs and compile everything from
scratch, but I'm not sure about this. Is the snapshot a reliable stuff
or not ?

Thanks




Re: broken dependencies ?

2008-06-22 Thread Juan Miscaro
2008/6/22 Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 To be honest with you I didn't particularly like the tone of your message
 and I am not even developer.

Let's see...

  I don't complain, but what I can do. I am not sure about a
  diagnose, I think The packages are broken. But I'm not an expert and I
  don't want to make stupid appreciation on others people great work.
  I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD
  computer is almost not installed, without X. Please send and idea, am
  I doing something wrong ?

What tone are you talking about?

/juan



Re: broken dependencies ?

2008-06-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-06-22, Mihai Popescu B.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Back in time I switched from -release to -current, but I'm installing
 from snapshots. I saw the announce about uvideo stuff and I am very
 interested about this that's why I installed the most recent snapshot
 for testing. The date of the snapshot is 19-June, I also proceeded to
 install some packages to test the video camera. One package people
 speak about is ekiga. And here is the surprise:  a lot of unexpected
 errors on install using pkg_add: Can't install package...: Can't
 resolve lib

 Don't bother to tell about relation from kernel and glibc , I waited
 for the packages to be close to the kernel compilation date. IT should
 work. I don't complain, but what I can do. I am not sure about a
 diagnose, I think The packages are broken. But I'm not an expert and I
 don't want to make stupid appreciation on others people great work.

You're new to -current, then... If you can't deal with this yourself
in some way or other, you need to wait for new snapshot packages to
be built.

Packages don't appear instantly, there is always a time after any
library bump in base or X where the snapshot packages need an older
libSomething.so file. If you aren't tracking -current frequently
enough to have the old file in the correct arch on some system or
other, you get to either build from ports, or wait for new snaps.

 I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD
 computer is almost not installed, without X.

If you're using any unix-like system, you should definitely learn
about redirection in the shell...



Re: broken dependencies ?

2008-06-22 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi!

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:08:39PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2008-06-22, Mihai Popescu B.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

 I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD
 computer is almost not installed, without X.

If you're using any unix-like system, you should definitely learn
about redirection in the shell...

Redirection is cool.

E.g. make build 21 | tee make.out (if you want to watch it live too,
however you can do that too by tail -f on the output file).
or make build  make.out 21

Assuming a bourne shell (or ksh or bash, i.e. anything of the
bourne-like family).

In the csh family tree that'd be make build | tee make.out
or make build  make.out

Kind regards,

Hannah.



Re: broken dependencies ?

2008-06-22 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi!

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:08:39PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
[...]

If you're using any unix-like system, you should definitely learn
about redirection in the shell...

In my last post, I got so distracted about redirection, but another
point: script(1) can also be useful more often than not.

Kind regards,

Hannah.