Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
Hello Henning, I wasn't aware that I need permission to continue a thread. Excuse me for my missunderstanding, but think I'm not involved in the release and compile procedures. If you don't like to answer, please don't. As a matter of fact, most of list users preffer to joke and to write something else, usually off- topic. Like some of you want to cover something and move away from the real answer. Ok, no problem. I know I'm far from knowing about OpenBSD, but I'm trying. That's why I'm not polluting the other technical lists with my questions. So I jumped in misc, but I see now there are some what to ask and what not to rules. Didn't know until now there are tabu questions. You said sometimes a new kernel must be throw in for a quick test. Is it so time consuming to generate the sha256 for this new kernel, too ? Note please that I'm not judge the process or the developers, I'm just asking. Forget about atomic thing in ftp servers, I got it right some time ago, without help. I was able to see this looking at the files date: it is updated at each refresh if the server is in an update process. I really don't know why developers are so jumpy when it comes about a question. I know, computer things are time consuming, if you feel you don't have the time please don't bother to answer. Maybe some other people know the issue and they have some time to explain. Not to me only, to the list. Bytheway, did you figure out why this cksum thing is comming over and over - because it was not explained from the first time. And it is not clear even now. Maybe some of user will eventually get a clue glueing all the answer scattered on this list and FAQ. Thanks
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 10:22:19AM +0200, Mihai Popescu wrote: Hello Henning, I wasn't aware that I need permission to continue a thread. Excuse me for my missunderstanding, but think I'm not involved in the release and compile procedures. If you don't like to answer, please don't. As a matter of fact, most of list users preffer to joke and to write something else, usually off- topic. Like some of you want to cover something and move away from the real answer. Ok, no problem. I know I'm far from knowing about OpenBSD, but I'm trying. That's why I'm not polluting the other technical lists with my questions. So I jumped in misc, but I see now there are some what to ask and what not to rules. Didn't know until now there are tabu questions. You said sometimes a new kernel must be throw in for a quick test. Is it so time consuming to generate the sha256 for this new kernel, too ? bsd.rd uses an embedded sha256 file, and so do the other bootable images. So if a kernel is changed, all bootable images need to be regenerated. Often that's not worth the trouble. Note please that I'm not judge the process or the developers, I'm just asking. Forget about atomic thing in ftp servers, I got it right some time ago, without help. I was able to see this looking at the files date: it is updated at each refresh if the server is in an update process. I really don't know why developers are so jumpy when it comes about a question. I know, computer things are time consuming, if you feel you don't have the time please don't bother to answer. Maybe some other people know the issue and they have some time to explain. Not to me only, to the list. Bytheway, did you figure out why this cksum thing is comming over and over - because it was not explained from the first time. And it is not clear even now. Maybe some of user will eventually get a clue glueing all the answer scattered on this list and FAQ. Thanks Well, a lot of the answers you could have found yourself. -0tto
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
Maybe some of user will eventually get a clue glueing all the answer scattered on this list and FAQ. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#shamismatch That entry contains all the relevant details end users should need, which is we're aware that checksum mismatches happen on snapshots; it's not dangerous; you need to learn to live with it
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
Hi Henning, It looks like you are in a bad mood. Please read my entire post and don't cut and paste out of context. Man, if you do not want to answer, please don't. You have spent a lot of time bitching and no time to give a damn clear answer. It's not my problem that you attract idiots ( I failed to see who are we from we keep attracting idiots...). Maybe you should read about how a documentation can or cannot help. Hapilly, Otto and Philip did participate with good answers.
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
Methinks this project is somehow about good code, not good moods. -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Mihai Popescu Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:19 AM To: misc Subject: Re: is SHA256 file used or not ? Hi Henning, It looks like you are in a bad mood. Please read my entire post and don't cut and paste out of context. Man, if you do not want to answer, please don't. You have spent a lot of time bitching and no time to give a damn clear answer. It's not my problem that you attract idiots ( I failed to see who are we from we keep attracting idiots...). Maybe you should read about how a documentation can or cannot help. Hapilly, Otto and Philip did participate with good answers.
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
So the process I thought about it's not true. Better to remove the SHA256 then, what purpose can it serve if it is not syncronised? I still don't figure out why this checksum missmatch is ( on the same server, not among servers). The troll haas been planted.
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
Henning was being nice. This stupid question keeps coming up. Yes, it is a stupid question and yes it is annoying and yes Henning should remind you of that. The so called good answers have been provided a trillion times by now. Learn how to use the internet or get of it. On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 05:19:12PM +0200, Mihai Popescu wrote: Hi Henning, It looks like you are in a bad mood. Please read my entire post and don't cut and paste out of context. Man, if you do not want to answer, please don't. You have spent a lot of time bitching and no time to give a damn clear answer. It's not my problem that you attract idiots ( I failed to see who are we from we keep attracting idiots...). Maybe you should read about how a documentation can or cannot help. Hapilly, Otto and Philip did participate with good answers.
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
2011/2/8 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com: Hi Henning, It looks like you are in a bad mood. Please read my entire post and don't cut and paste out of context. Man, if you do not want to answer, please don't. You have spent a lot of time bitching and no time to give a damn clear answer. It's not my problem that you attract idiots ( I failed to see who are we from we keep attracting idiots...). Maybe you should read about how a documentation can or cannot help. Hapilly, Otto and Philip did participate with good answers. Hello Popescu I am not so educated as others, i use OBSD since 2001-2002, with many dificulties, but i have undertood that there are only 2 different kind of persons. Developers and users, developers work for them, and users recive the collateral benefit using OBSD. What kind of person are you Popescu? If you are a Developer, i can tell you thanks; or if you are a user, i can tell you, please let us to do what we like, and go to other list where your behaviour is normal, do you understand or do i have to write a man page? -- Agr. francisco Quinonez. Our mission, feed the World notre mission, nourrir au monde Nuestra mision, alimentar al mundo
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:59 AM, fqui nonez fquinon...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/8 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com: Hi Henning, It looks like you are in a bad mood. Please read my entire post and don't cut and paste out of context. Man, if you do not want to answer, please don't. You have spent a lot of time bitching and no time to give a damn clear answer. It's not my problem that you attract idiots ( I failed to see who are we from we keep attracting idiots...). Maybe you should read about how a documentation can or cannot help. Hapilly, Otto and Philip did participate with good answers. Hello Popescu I am not so educated as others, i use OBSD since 2001-2002, with many dificulties, but i have undertood that there are only 2 different kind of persons. Developers and users, developers work for them, and users recive the collateral benefit using OBSD. What kind of person are you Popescu? If you are a Developer, i can tell you thanks; or if you are a user, i can tell you, please let us to do what we like, and go to other list where your behaviour is normal, do you understand or do i have to write a man page? -- Agr. francisco Quinonez. Our mission, feed the World notre mission, nourrir au monde Nuestra mision, alimentar al mundo I like the idea of a misc@ man page, think of all the typing that could be saved with RTFM@MP.
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
On 02/08/11 19:29, patric conant wrote: I like the idea of a misc@ man page, think of all the typing that could be saved with RTFM@MP. Lo and behold! The future is already here! http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc ;-)
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
On 02/08/11 22:06, Alexander Hall wrote: On 02/08/11 19:29, patric conant wrote: I like the idea of a misc@ man page, think of all the typing that could be saved with RTFM@MP. Ah. _man_ page. not _web_ page. well, nm. /Alexander Lo and behold! The future is already here! http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc ;-)
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
I am not so educated as others, i use OBSD since 2001-2002, with many dificulties, but i have undertood that there are only 2 different kind of persons. Developers and users, developers work for them, and users recive the collateral benefit using OBSD. If you use OpenBSD since 2001-2002 I think it's time to know that OpenBSD devs work for themselves. They had said that so many times and that's is the root of many misscommunication problems as the present one. -- I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
Hello all, Things got out of my hand and I want to say something and close this thread. There were some other posts in this thread which I consider are off-topic. I got also direct email telling me I should not blame Henning and other developers. I will try again to explain, moving myself off-topic. So here it comes. 1. I know my rights as an user - got them from Theo's posts and I agree with his original point of view. I have nothing to comment against it. 2. I never had, I don't have and I will never have the intention to attack or blame developers. Never. This comes from understanding number 1. Even they will use appelatives like idiot, spammer, newbie. 3. If you think some questions are stupid or fully answered please make a rule on this list, mark the thread somehow, etc. I like OpenBSD, I use it, and I'm not against it. Moreover I'm not a troll. Each time when I ask on this list, I ask just because I consider it is an important issue which I was not able to understand. It's like asking for a little help, some link, not a spoon feed. It is not because I want to blame developers. OK, if some people are sensible on this, I will refrain from asking. But where the heck is the limit, I need some time to figure out too. I am sorry for the noise. If someone was offended, it was not with intention, it was not personal. Excuse me, please. I will send here another thing. I hope it will be received nicely. I mean I don't know how to tell it to be nice for everyone. But I will tell it: parts of FAQ go into being more difficult and more abstract than the style it use to be back in time. This is how I feel it. Maybe the author was changed , I don't know. This is now: 4.13.7 - I got an SHA256 mismatch during install! Checksums are embedded in the install kernels for the file sets that are used for the system install. Actual -release file sets should all match their stored checksums. At times, snapshots may not have proper checksums stored with the install kernels. This will happen for various reasons on the building side, and is not reason to panic for development snapshots. If you are concerned about this, wait for the next snapshot. OK, reading this, what to do next? If I will be concerned, i will wait. But why I should be concerned ? If I'm not concerned, can I install with wrong checksum? ... And thing get interesting. I like the howto style of documentation. Thank you.
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:29, patric conant mirage.comput...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of a misc@ man page, think of all the typing that could be saved with RTFM@MP. RTFFAQ?
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Alexander Hall ha...@openbsd.org wrote:
On 02/08/11 22:06, Alexander Hall wrote:
On 02/08/11 19:29, patric conant wrote:
I like the idea of a misc@ man page, think of all the typing that could be
saved with RTFM@MP.
Ah. _man_ page. not _web_ page. well, nm.
No problem!
$ rtfmmp() { lynx --dump
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscw=2r=1s=$1q=b; | more; }
$ rtfmmp sha256
...
1. 2011-02-08 [9]Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
2. 2011-02-08 [11]Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
3. 2011-02-08 [13]Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
4. 2011-02-08 [15]Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
/Alexander
Lo and behold! The future is already here!
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc
;-)
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
On 02/08/11 12:45, Mihai Popescu wrote: OK, reading this, what to do next? If I will be concerned, i will wait. But why I should be concerned ? If I'm not concerned, can I install with wrong checksum? ... I think you need this: http://psychcentral.com/therapy/ http://www.mentalhelp.net/ -- Regards, Edward
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On 02/08/11 15:45, Mihai Popescu wrote: ... I will send here another thing. I hope it will be received nicely. I mean I don't know how to tell it to be nice for everyone. But I will tell it: parts of FAQ go into being more difficult and more abstract than the style it use to be back in time. This is how I feel it. Maybe the author was changed , I don't know. well, it's been me since 2002... Of course, I inherited some darned good content that was there, stuff that got me going further with OpenBSD in three days than I got with years of poking at Linux. As you provide no hard details, I'm receiving it neutrally, at best. But hey. The problem any teacher of groups or writer has is they will bore some and lose others. We aren't gonna get the point through to all students or readers, at least not on the first pass. It's a balancing trick -- include all the detail one might want to, you will lose your readers. Include too little, they are left with questions. IF you want to cite cases of This article was better back in CVS revision 1.54 than it is now and detail why you feel that was the case, I'm more than happy to listen (it is rather cool that CVS holds all revisions of the website going back to near the beginning of the OpenBSD project, and the web interface makes it easy to view them directly!). However, I believe people are more likely to complain than to praise, and you are really the first I recall making this kind of statement, I think I'm doing not too badly. :) That doesn't mean, of course, that I can't do better. This is now: 4.13.7 - I got an SHA256 mismatch during install! Checksums are embedded in the install kernels for the file sets that are used for the system install. Actual -release file sets should all match their stored checksums. At times, snapshots may not have proper checksums stored with the install kernels. This will happen for various reasons on the building side, and is not reason to panic for development snapshots. If you are concerned about this, wait for the next snapshot. OK, reading this, what to do next? If I will be concerned, i will wait. But why I should be concerned ? If I'm not concerned, can I install with wrong checksum? ... I would hope that would be obvious from the is not reason to panic and if you are concerned about this..., the implication would be that if you aren't concerned, carry on. But obviously, something didn't go as planned, so I'd suggest you think about it before blindly reacting one way or another. This is also a perfect case of if I start going into detail about why the checksums may not match, I'm going to bore a lot of people who will intuitively understand the building and distribution process, others won't care, and all will be hit with a lot of difficult and abstract words they could live without (though simple, concrete, but way too many! would be a better description). I made it short and sweet and you don't like it. Hey, I hit some people dead on, I miss a few. I missed you. I wish I was a perfect enough teacher that I COULD avoid boring the brilliant and still not miss the slow, but I'm not, no teacher or writer I've met is, and I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I do recognize I may drift into Americanisms (and occasional Nick-isms) that may not travel well, always feel free to point those out to me. The FAQ is written in a fairly conversational style, and unfortunately, I'm hopelessly monolingual, so I do sometimes wonder how some of the stuff I write sounds to non-native English (or American, or Nick-ish) speakers and readers. I'm guessing this may be part of your difficulty. And thing get interesting. I like the howto style of documentation. and as long as I'm maintaining the FAQ, you will not see it here. I hate the just type this and don't ask any questions style of HOWTO, and I hate the corruption of the language the non-word HOWTO has created, such as: How to install...? -- question mark should not be there! It is my belief that things run better for people when they understand the WHYs of what they are doing. It is also my belief that most people can understand the whys better than they do, often better than they ever imagined they could. It is my goal to give you the opportunity. I've been told I succeed from time to time. :) Nick.
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I've been told I succeed from time to time. :) Men I fell bad now! Only from time to time!? Men, you are doing an incredible job and I sure hell do not envy you by a very long shut! I am the first buyer of Nick book with plenty of Nick-isims in it! (; The FAQ is actually what got me going with OpenBSD and that was 2.7/2.8 then as it was at that usual clock work release time of the year. (; I found it s refreshing and well done! At the time I was trying to get going and get better results with Debian, switching from Cobalt Linux server then, but after I tried OpenBSD guess what happened... I am not sure I could setup a Debian server in a day now for sure. I don't even want to try! I never look back! Nick, if no one tell you on a regular basic, makes no mistake about it. I am absolutly sure that many of us are using OpenBSD and started to use it because of the FAQ and got to love the system right after that, but I may be wrong. The FAQ is a BIG sale for it! That's what got me started! And for fun I just look at what I think was my first post to misc@ and that was information that I provided to a question for packages then and that was on 2.9. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=99793474724987w=2 That was along time ago and I knew nothing of OpenBSD then, but the FAQ was so well done that I didn't have to asked question then, but was even able to answer simple question based on the FAQ that I enjoy reading then and still do today! But I also did my share of stupid questions at time too! (; Never the less Nick, don't be mistaken. You ARE the KING of the FAQ no question about it! Long live the king! (; And many thanks in case you were not told today! Best, Daniel
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
I'm not sure I got it right, because I'm not familiar with the checksum procedure. I will make a short text below, to show how I see the process and maybe someone can pinpoint the mistakes. The *.tgz files are obtained by tree compilation so there is a new set and sha256s are compiled for each file. All new *.tgz are blended into *.iso file and a sha256 is compiled for this *.iso too. I think there are some mistakes in this scenario, since I observed that for example the bsd file from file by file download is different from the bsd file embedded into the *.iso file. I'm not trying to waste your time explaining me the whole process, but please tell me how to use this SHA256 file then? What to observe, what to match? Is it good only for file by file downloading? How to check the *.iso integrity then and how to check if *.iso is correctly imprinted on the CD after burning ? Many thanks.
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:49:29 +0200 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com wrote: please tell me how to use this SHA256 file then? There was a thread recently about this where theo threatened to remove them, please don't. It is only guaranteed for releases and not snapshots, where it will be hit and miss. You can compare a SHA256 from various servers that you trust whilst getting the .iso from any mirror, bearing in mind that they aren't all in sync as the snapshots are released so often and even one server might have it's SHA256 out of sync with it's own .iso when you happen to come along.
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On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:27:52AM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:49:29 +0200 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com wrote: please tell me how to use this SHA256 file then? There was a thread recently about this where theo threatened to remove them, please don't. It is only guaranteed for releases and not snapshots, where it will be hit and miss. You can compare a SHA256 from various servers that you trust whilst getting the .iso from any mirror, bearing in mind that they aren't all in sync as the snapshots are released so often and even one server might have it's SHA256 out of sync with it's own .iso when you happen to come along. Maybe something should be put into the FAQ to prevent or shorten such threads in the future? Index: faq5.html === RCS file: /cvs/www/faq/faq5.html,v retrieving revision 1.182 diff -u -p -r1.182 faq5.html --- faq5.html 4 Feb 2011 03:25:14 - 1.182 +++ faq5.html 7 Feb 2011 11:34:14 - @@ -198,7 +198,8 @@ these are builds of whatever code is in builder grabbed a copy of the code for that particular platform. Remember, on some platforms, it may be DAYS before the snapshot build is completed and put out for distribution. There is no promise that the -snapshots are completely functional, or even install. Often, a change +snapshots are completely functional, or even install. Especially the +SHA256 might be out of sync. Often, a change that needs to be tested may trigger snapshot creation. Some platforms have snapshots built on an almost daily basis, others will be much less frequent. If you desire to run i-current/i, a recent
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
Hello. Mihai Popescu mihaipbs () gmail ! com wrote: Hello I'm installing ... from snapshots. SHA256 invalid checksums ... ... SHA256 from ftp.openbsd.org ... Some good search terms there. http://www.bing.com/search?q=site%3Aopenbsd.org+snapshot+install+sha256 http://www.bing.com/search?q=site%3Aopenbsd.org%2Ffaq+sha256 Can someone please, make some light in this matter. Is this SHA256 used anymore ? Maybe a FAQ entry will be useful. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html 4.13.7 - I got an SHA256 mismatch during install! Checksums are embedded in the install kernels for the file sets that are used for the system install. Actual -release file sets should all match their stored checksums. At times, snapshots may not have proper checksums stored with the install kernels. This will happen for various reasons on the building side, and is not reason to panic for development snapshots. If you are concerned about this, wait for the next snapshot. Thanks Kevin Chadwick ma1l1ists () yahoo ! co ! uk wrote: There was a thread recently about this ... Yup. http://marc.info/?t=12871766371r=1w=2 Best wishes.
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So the process I thought about it's not true. Better to remove the SHA256 then, what purpose can it serve if it is not syncronised? I still don't figure out why this checksum missmatch is ( on the same server, not among servers).
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On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 12:38:37PM +0100, Benjamin Nadland wrote: On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:27:52AM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:49:29 +0200 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com wrote: please tell me how to use this SHA256 file then? There was a thread recently about this where theo threatened to remove them, please don't. It is only guaranteed for releases and not snapshots, where it will be hit and miss. You can compare a SHA256 from various servers that you trust whilst getting the .iso from any mirror, bearing in mind that they aren't all in sync as the snapshots are released so often and even one server might have it's SHA256 out of sync with it's own .iso when you happen to come along. Maybe something should be put into the FAQ to prevent or shorten such threads in the future? [...] Ouch. Disregard that. It is already there. (see FAQ4.13.7 - I got an SHA256 mismatch during install!)
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Howdy. Mihai Popescu mihaipbs () gmail ! com wrote: So the process I thought about it's not true. Better to remove the SHA256 then, what purpose can it serve if it is not syncronised? Some guy said ... Do you not want it to be there for official releases? How about if I remove the code now. Then 10 minutes before we make a release, we put it back in, find out that it makes the media not fit or some other issue has showed up http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=128719219216740w=2 I still don't figure out why this checksum missmatch is ( on the same server, not among servers). Some other guy said ... This file is provided for you to be able to check that you downloaded the files correctly. The installation media uses an internal source for the checksum information. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=129701893809304w=2 Yet another guy said ... and the mirroring process isn't atomic. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=129702183711918w=2 Some 'yahoo' said ... You can compare a SHA256 from various servers that you trust whilst getting the .iso from any mirror, bearing in mind that they aren't all in sync as the snapshots are released so often and even one server might have it's SHA256 out of sync with it's own .iso when you happen to come along. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=129707462918858w=2 So on and so forth. Best wishes.
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On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com wrote: So the process I thought about it's not true. Better to remove the SHA256 then, what purpose can it serve if it is not syncronised? Practice for release, perhaps? If they cause too much of an uproar in snapshots, then they'll likely be killed completely, including from the releases, because trying to get them right in the release without the installer bits being regularly tested would be unsustainable. Sure, it would work fine in the 4.9 release, but with no testing between the 4.9 release and the 4.a^H^H^H5.0 release there's a not insignificant chance they wouldn't work then, and the probabilities get worse from there. I still don't figure out why this checksum missmatch is ( on the same server, not among servers). No x* entries in the separate SHA256 file, so you obviously grabbed the files between when a base build finished and when the following xenocara build did. As for other claimed mismatches: insufficient data. Philip Guenther
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Hello Philip Guenther, It looks like your answer is the most valuable for me. So, by my understanding, the developer compiles and gets the *.tgz files, uploads them to the ftp server but he doesn't compile the sha256 checksum each times for those files. I don't know why, because i'm not familiar with the entire distribution process, maybe they take to much time. But from time to time, the developer makes it somehow that SHA256 has the good checksums inside. Another thing I got recently from reading list is that *.iso file has its own cheksum mechanism once it is written to the cd so you don't need the actual sha256 for it. From my checks I can say that *.iso file may be older than actual individual files present on the ftp. From now on, as an *.iso user I don't need the SHA256 then. If I'm mistaken again, please correct me. For the other guys answering, a big thank you also, but your answers were placed to a high level for me. For the people with jokes in mind, don't waste your time for an answer that brings more confusion than clarity. thanks
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* Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com [2011-02-07 21:26]: It looks like your answer is the most valuable for me. So, by my understanding, the developer compiles and gets the *.tgz files, uploads them to the ftp server but he doesn't compile the sha256 checksum each times for those files. I don't know why, because i'm not familiar with the entire distribution process, maybe they take to much time. But from time to time, the developer makes it somehow that SHA256 has the good checksums inside. geez, how hard can it be. if you read the damn release manpage once and ran that process just ONCE you'd knew that the sha256 file is created as part of it. it is always good. minus X, since that is built seperately, usually not even by the same person. you have been pointed to the reason for the mismatches more than once, how hard can it be... i try it one last time, and please pplz, let this useless thread die then. 1) sometimes a new kernel is thrown in, since we want something tested quickly 2) I repeat ONCE AGAIN: the mirroring process is not atomic. think about it for a second and it'll be obvious. ok, that doesn't work apparently, so super duper obvious: INSTALL.*, SHA256, base*, bsd* are already synced. cdXZ.iso is in the process of syncing and the rest is old, as in, from a previous snap. do i need to point out now that the checksums in SHA256 won't match for cd49.iso and everything after? and the same for the checksums in bsd.rd? -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
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I'm installing from time to time the -current from snapshots. Today I run in an old issue: SHA256 invalid checksums for base install. The situation is like this: SHA256 from ftp.openbsd.org has a file with checksums for x* packages. The same file on ftp openbsd.informatik.erlangen.de dosn't contain the checksum value for x* files. The rest of base files are reported as FAILED on cksum. Can someone please, make some light in this matter. Is this SHA256 used anymore ? Maybe a FAQ entry will be useful. This file is provided for you to be able to check that you downloaded the files correctly. The installation media uses an internal source for the checksum information. Miod
Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?
* Miod Vallat m...@online.fr [2011-02-06 20:02]: I'm installing from time to time the -current from snapshots. Today I run in an old issue: SHA256 invalid checksums for base install. The situation is like this: SHA256 from ftp.openbsd.org has a file with checksums for x* packages. The same file on ftp openbsd.informatik.erlangen.de dosn't contain the checksum value for x* files. The rest of base files are reported as FAILED on cksum. Can someone please, make some light in this matter. Is this SHA256 used anymore ? Maybe a FAQ entry will be useful. This file is provided for you to be able to check that you downloaded the files correctly. The installation media uses an internal source for the checksum information. and the mirroring process isn't atomic. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
