Re: SiS 964 ethernet with sis(4)?

2006-11-25 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 03:55:49AM +0200, Soner Tari wrote:
 I'm planning to purchase a motherboard with SiS 661FX/964 chipset. Can I
 assume sis(4) driver on OpenBSD 4.0 amd64 supports the ethernet on SiS
 964? (In other words, sis(4) mentions SiS 900, does it mean 9xx?)
 
 Thanks,

The recent integrated Ethernet MACs on SiS south bridges are
known as the sis 190/191, they are not compatible with sis(4).

SiS have repeatedly ignored requests for documentation on this,
people need to try to contact SiS and ask for documentation
that isn't electrical pinouts but something along the lines
of SiS 965 MuTIOL Media I/O Programming Guide.

The documentation exists, we don't have it, talk to them.
This also affects other things in the south bridge we
currently don't handle as well as we could.



Re: SiS 964 ethernet with sis(4)?

2006-11-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
 On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 03:55:49AM +0200, Soner Tari wrote:
  I'm planning to purchase a motherboard with SiS 661FX/964 chipset. Can I
  assume sis(4) driver on OpenBSD 4.0 amd64 supports the ethernet on SiS
  964? (In other words, sis(4) mentions SiS 900, does it mean 9xx?)
  
  Thanks,
 
 The recent integrated Ethernet MACs on SiS south bridges are
 known as the sis 190/191, they are not compatible with sis(4).
 
 SiS have repeatedly ignored requests for documentation on this,
 people need to try to contact SiS and ask for documentation
 that isn't electrical pinouts but something along the lines
 of SiS 965 MuTIOL Media I/O Programming Guide.
 
 The documentation exists, we don't have it, talk to them.
 This also affects other things in the south bridge we
 currently don't handle as well as we could.

Jonathan is right.

People need to try to help us find new channels into SIS, by showing
their disgust at their policies.  We've been trying for months to get
in touch with someone who will even reply to mail.

It's stupid.  Don't just avoid their products.  Contact them and
indicate your disgust.



SiS 964 ethernet with sis(4)?

2006-11-24 Thread Soner Tari
I'm planning to purchase a motherboard with SiS 661FX/964 chipset. Can I
assume sis(4) driver on OpenBSD 4.0 amd64 supports the ethernet on SiS
964? (In other words, sis(4) mentions SiS 900, does it mean 9xx?)

Thanks,



Re: SiS 964 ethernet with sis(4)?

2006-11-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/11/25 03:55, Soner Tari wrote:
 I'm planning to purchase a motherboard with SiS 661FX/964 chipset. Can I
 assume sis(4) driver on OpenBSD 4.0 amd64 supports the ethernet on SiS
 964?

Looks like it probably does.
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2006-06/1627.html

Don't know about anything else though. Generally, you get to try it out,
and work out what to do if something doesn't work satisfactorily (disks,
usb, blah blah...). If you mention the motherboard model, you might be
lucky and find someone else who already has one who could let you
know more...or then again, you might not.