Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
Mark writes: > "> That will never happen." > > And some serious reason? /usr/sbin/sysupgrade is 218 lines short _with_ comments and I for one like it that way. It's difficult to screw up by using it and easy to figure out what it did if you do. > It was a great idea indeed. :/ So was dividing the base system into sets. ... when a 20MB hard drive was considered "large" (heavy too). Reading this email has cost you more than the portion of the storage medium which would hold the sets you don't want to install. Matthew
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
On 2023-11-18 15:57 +01, m...@emailgroups.net wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, at 11:57, Mark wrote: >> "> That will never happen." >> >> And some serious reason? >> >> It was a great idea indeed. :/ > > They don't go out of their way to assist with foot shooting. Oh, we like foot guns as much as the next person. If they are hilarious enough. This one just leads to whining and hard to debug problems, and we already have enough of each. -- In my defence, I have been left unsupervised.
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, at 11:57, Mark wrote: > "> That will never happen." > > And some serious reason? > > It was a great idea indeed. :/ They don't go out of their way to assist with foot shooting. The files under /usr take up about 8 GB and I've installed gnome and what not. Just get a bigger SD-card? puffy$ df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 986M128M809M14%/ /dev/sd0l 131G1.9G123G 2%/home /dev/sd0d 3.9G 49.9M3.6G 2%/tmp /dev/sd0f 23.5G2.0G 20.3G10%/usr /dev/sd0g 986M290M647M31%/usr/X11R6 /dev/sd0h 19.4G4.9G 13.5G27%/usr/local /dev/sd0k 5.8G 86.0K5.5G 1%/usr/obj /dev/sd0j 2.9G2.0K2.8G 1%/usr/src /dev/sd0e 28.7G 79.5M 27.2G 1%/var
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
"> That will never happen." And some serious reason? It was a great idea indeed. :/ Theo de Raadt , 17 Kas 2023 Cum, 18:20 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Odd Martin Baanrud wrote: > > > Perhaps sysupgrade should be enhanced, so one could either choose which > sets should be upgraded, or even beter, the tool could figure out which > sets are installed, and upgrade just those. > > That will never happen. > > > >
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
Mihai Popescu : > Make it Rust or GTK based, but please include the support for http, it > is more convenient to do it remotely using www. Do OpenBSD running seriously on Ruby, Python, etc, etc and then we discuss about www that appears the only think we can still like to run over it, and sorry for the point over the "i". Note: I just launched software written with them and the only think that I remain with is the thought to try Go, maybe in Docker.. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
> I still have gsysupgrade lying around somewhere. It's a gtk app. I never > made a port for it because I got sidetracked rewriting it to use qt. > It isn't written in rust? The shame. Make it Rust or GTK based, but please include the support for http, it is more convenient to do it remotely using www. Thank you.
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
Florian Obser wrote: > On 2023-11-17 16:06 +01, Odd Martin Baanrud wrote: > > Hello Jan, > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > The upgrade went smoothly. > > I ran “sysupgrade -n”, deleted the game set and the X sets and rebooted. > > > > Perhaps sysupgrade should be enhanced, so one could either choose > > which sets should be upgraded, or even beter, the tool could figure > > I still have gsysupgrade lying around somewhere. It's a gtk app. I never > made a port for it because I got sidetracked rewriting it to use qt. It isn't written in rust? The shame.
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
Odd Martin Baanrud wrote: > Perhaps sysupgrade should be enhanced, so one could either choose which sets > should be upgraded, or even beter, the tool could figure out which sets are > installed, and upgrade just those. That will never happen.
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
On 2023-11-17 16:06 +01, Odd Martin Baanrud wrote: > Hello Jan, > > Thanks for the tip. > The upgrade went smoothly. > I ran “sysupgrade -n”, deleted the game set and the X sets and rebooted. > > Perhaps sysupgrade should be enhanced, so one could either choose > which sets should be upgraded, or even beter, the tool could figure I still have gsysupgrade lying around somewhere. It's a gtk app. I never made a port for it because I got sidetracked rewriting it to use qt. > out which sets are installed, and upgrade just those. > > Regards, Martin. > -- In my defence, I have been left unsupervised.
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
Hello Jan, Thanks for the tip. The upgrade went smoothly. I ran “sysupgrade -n”, deleted the game set and the X sets and rebooted. Perhaps sysupgrade should be enhanced, so one could either choose which sets should be upgraded, or even beter, the tool could figure out which sets are installed, and upgrade just those. Regards, Martin.
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
IF you have a good reason to not let sysupgrade do a full install (space? on my RPI that's the case), you can simply sysupgrade -sfn rm /home/_sysupgrade/x* reboot
Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
On 11/16/23 20:25, Odd Martin Baanrud wrote: Hello, I’m planning to upgrade my router from 7.3 to 7.4 using sysupgrade, but I’ve one concern. Some time ago, I upgraded a RPi4 from 7.2 to 7.3, and X got installed, even though it wasn’t before the upgrade. I thaught sysupgrade only upgraded the installed sets. Nope. Never did. It always assumes a full, all file-set install. How does it work on 7.3? Same as it has om the past. Full upgrade. On my router, I have base, comp and man installed, and I don’t want the X sets on that machine. if you don't want X or any other file set, just do a manual upgrade from the console. It's that simple. No one mandates the use of sysupgrade, sysupgrade is just a very special case (though highly useful) subset of potential ways to do an install But, whatever your reason for wanting to keep some files off your computer, it is probably flawed. So I'd really suggest, just don't worry about it, just do an upgrade, let it install everything, and be done with it. But if you don't like the way sysupgrade does things, don't use that tool. Nick.
Upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4 with sysupgrade
Hello, I’m planning to upgrade my router from 7.3 to 7.4 using sysupgrade, but I’ve one concern. Some time ago, I upgraded a RPi4 from 7.2 to 7.3, and X got installed, even though it wasn’t before the upgrade. I thaught sysupgrade only upgraded the installed sets. How does it work on 7.3? On my router, I have base, comp and man installed, and I don’t want the X sets on that machine. Regards, Martin
