Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-05-06 Thread James Crutchfield
On 4/9/08, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Sale of the items on that page do not fund the project.  Sale of those
 items does not even cover the cost that Austin and I paid our artist
 to draw the pictures for those items.

 Just keep that in mind please.

 From time to time I have toyed with the idea of producing OpenBSD-related
swag, and either donating it to the project outright or selling it myself
with donation = revenue - cost.  I'd have to use some outside vendor and
face the same production costs that Theo and the project do (CafePress,
anyone?).  Is this something that can be handled in a decentralized manner,
or do you prefer that everything be kept under the same roof as the
CD/Poster/etc. sales?  What would give the OpenBSD project the most benefit
while populating our lives with more Puffy-branded merchandise?

JC Crutchfield



Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-05-06 Thread L. V. Lammert

At 07:36 PM 5/6/2008 -0400, you wrote:

On 4/9/08, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Sale of the items on that page do not fund the project.  Sale of those
 items does not even cover the cost that Austin and I paid our artist
 to draw the pictures for those items.

 Just keep that in mind please.

 From time to time I have toyed with the idea of producing OpenBSD-related
swag, and either donating it to the project outright or selling it myself
with donation = revenue - cost.  I'd have to use some outside vendor and
face the same production costs that Theo and the project do (CafePress,
anyone?).


Their products are not something I would consider 'OpenBSD' quality. Great 
for gag gifts, but not much more.


Products from the OBSD store have always been first-rate.

Lee



Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-05-06 Thread Parvinder Bhasin
This is not an advert for the company I work for but I can help out in  
creation of shop etc...
I work for cafepress :) I can talk to our marketing department and  
arrange something.


Let me know how I can help.  pbhasin at cafepress dot com :)

-Parvinder Bhasin

On May 6, 2008, at 4:36 PM, James Crutchfield wrote:


On 4/9/08, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Sale of the items on that page do not fund the project.  Sale of  
those

items does not even cover the cost that Austin and I paid our artist
to draw the pictures for those items.

Just keep that in mind please.

From time to time I have toyed with the idea of producing OpenBSD- 
related
swag, and either donating it to the project outright or selling it  
myself
with donation = revenue - cost.  I'd have to use some outside  
vendor and
face the same production costs that Theo and the project do  
(CafePress,
anyone?).  Is this something that can be handled in a decentralized  
manner,

or do you prefer that everything be kept under the same roof as the
CD/Poster/etc. sales?  What would give the OpenBSD project the most  
benefit

while populating our lives with more Puffy-branded merchandise?

JC Crutchfield




Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-05-06 Thread Theo de Raadt
I am completely uninterested in using cafepress for anything.

This is not an advert for the company I work for but I can help out in  
creation of shop etc...
I work for cafepress :) I can talk to our marketing department and  
arrange something.

Let me know how I can help.  pbhasin at cafepress dot com :)

-Parvinder Bhasin

On May 6, 2008, at 4:36 PM, James Crutchfield wrote:

 On 4/9/08, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Sale of the items on that page do not fund the project.  Sale of  
 those
 items does not even cover the cost that Austin and I paid our artist
 to draw the pictures for those items.

 Just keep that in mind please.

 From time to time I have toyed with the idea of producing OpenBSD- 
 related
 swag, and either donating it to the project outright or selling it  
 myself
 with donation = revenue - cost.  I'd have to use some outside  
 vendor and
 face the same production costs that Theo and the project do  
 (CafePress,
 anyone?).  Is this something that can be handled in a decentralized  
 manner,
 or do you prefer that everything be kept under the same roof as the
 CD/Poster/etc. sales?  What would give the OpenBSD project the most  
 benefit
 while populating our lives with more Puffy-branded merchandise?

 JC Crutchfield



Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-05-06 Thread James Crutchfield
On 5/6/08, Parvinder Bhasin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is not an advert for the company I work for but I can help out in
 creation of shop etc...
 I work for cafepress :) I can talk to our marketing department and arrange
 something.

 Let me know how I can help.  pbhasin at cafepress dot com :)

 -Parvinder Bhasin
 
 


Good to know that we have a mole in the organization.  Even though Theo's
less than enthused, if anything comes of it I'm sure that the project will
still benefit.

JC



Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-04-10 Thread Darren Spiteri
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Kevin Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hannah Schroeter wrote:
  By weatherproof, I plan to stick it on my motorcycle luggage where it will
 be exposed to sun, rain, snow, ice and 120km/h+ winds.


I wouldn't mind one for my bicycle. I was thinking of using the
install packaged stickers and covering them with some clear vinyl.



Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-04-10 Thread Mark Mathias
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   Hannah Schroeter wrote:
  
I read there (http://www.openbsd.org/art1.html):
   
 but do not make profit from them since our own T-shirt sales
 provide
 funding so that OpenBSD can continue to operate.
   
Recently it was said on a mailing list, that T-shirt sales do *not*
provide net funding, only donations and *CD* sales do. Which is
 true?
   
  
   I was a bit curious about that, too, but just figured it was a page
 left
   that still needed editing.
  
   I also have a question of my own related to Puffy and, rather than
 start a
   new thread, I'll go ahead and ask in this one since it's kind of
 on-topic.
  
   Before I have some weatherproof OpenBSD/Puffy stickers made up for my
 own
   personal use, does anyone know *off the top of your head* if there are
   already some out there, available for purchase, where proceeds find
 their
   way back to the project? I'd rather buy some knowing that some of the
 $$ is
   going to make its way back to OpenBSD than to spend the same amount
 and it
   all go to a corporate interest.
  
   By weatherproof, I plan to stick it on my motorcycle luggage where it
 will
   be exposed to sun, rain, snow, ice and 120km/h+ winds.
  
   Thanks!
  
   kmw
  
  
  Have you checked out
  https://kd85.com/notforsale.html
  there are a few stickers for cars that should serve your purpose.

 Sale of the items on that page do not fund the project.  Sale of those
 items does not even cover the cost that Austin and I paid our artist
 to draw the pictures for those items.

 Just keep that in mind please.


I didn't realize that the money from those sales don't fund the project, and
I will keep that in mind.

-- 
Mark Mathias



Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-04-09 Thread Kevin Wilcox

Hannah Schroeter wrote:


I read there (http://www.openbsd.org/art1.html):

  but do not make profit from them since our own T-shirt sales provide
  funding so that OpenBSD can continue to operate.

Recently it was said on a mailing list, that T-shirt sales do *not*
provide net funding, only donations and *CD* sales do. Which is true?


I was a bit curious about that, too, but just figured it was a page left 
that still needed editing.


I also have a question of my own related to Puffy and, rather than start 
a new thread, I'll go ahead and ask in this one since it's kind of on-topic.


Before I have some weatherproof OpenBSD/Puffy stickers made up for my 
own personal use, does anyone know *off the top of your head* if there 
are already some out there, available for purchase, where proceeds find 
their way back to the project? I'd rather buy some knowing that some of 
the $$ is going to make its way back to OpenBSD than to spend the same 
amount and it all go to a corporate interest.


By weatherproof, I plan to stick it on my motorcycle luggage where it 
will be exposed to sun, rain, snow, ice and 120km/h+ winds.


Thanks!

kmw



Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-04-09 Thread Mark Mathias
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Kevin Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hannah Schroeter wrote:

  I read there (http://www.openbsd.org/art1.html):
 
   but do not make profit from them since our own T-shirt sales provide
   funding so that OpenBSD can continue to operate.
 
  Recently it was said on a mailing list, that T-shirt sales do *not*
  provide net funding, only donations and *CD* sales do. Which is true?
 

 I was a bit curious about that, too, but just figured it was a page left
 that still needed editing.

 I also have a question of my own related to Puffy and, rather than start a
 new thread, I'll go ahead and ask in this one since it's kind of on-topic.

 Before I have some weatherproof OpenBSD/Puffy stickers made up for my own
 personal use, does anyone know *off the top of your head* if there are
 already some out there, available for purchase, where proceeds find their
 way back to the project? I'd rather buy some knowing that some of the $$ is
 going to make its way back to OpenBSD than to spend the same amount and it
 all go to a corporate interest.

 By weatherproof, I plan to stick it on my motorcycle luggage where it will
 be exposed to sun, rain, snow, ice and 120km/h+ winds.

 Thanks!

 kmw


Have you checked out
https://kd85.com/notforsale.html
there are a few stickers for cars that should serve your purpose.

-- 
Mark Mathias



Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-04-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
  Hannah Schroeter wrote:
 
   I read there (http://www.openbsd.org/art1.html):
  
but do not make profit from them since our own T-shirt sales provide
funding so that OpenBSD can continue to operate.
  
   Recently it was said on a mailing list, that T-shirt sales do *not*
   provide net funding, only donations and *CD* sales do. Which is true?
  
 
  I was a bit curious about that, too, but just figured it was a page left
  that still needed editing.
 
  I also have a question of my own related to Puffy and, rather than start a
  new thread, I'll go ahead and ask in this one since it's kind of on-topic.
 
  Before I have some weatherproof OpenBSD/Puffy stickers made up for my own
  personal use, does anyone know *off the top of your head* if there are
  already some out there, available for purchase, where proceeds find their
  way back to the project? I'd rather buy some knowing that some of the $$ is
  going to make its way back to OpenBSD than to spend the same amount and it
  all go to a corporate interest.
 
  By weatherproof, I plan to stick it on my motorcycle luggage where it will
  be exposed to sun, rain, snow, ice and 120km/h+ winds.
 
  Thanks!
 
  kmw
 
 
 Have you checked out
 https://kd85.com/notforsale.html
 there are a few stickers for cars that should serve your purpose.

Sale of the items on that page do not fund the project.  Sale of those
items does not even cover the cost that Austin and I paid our artist
to draw the pictures for those items.

Just keep that in mind please.



Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-04-09 Thread Richard Daemon
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Kevin Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hannah Schroeter wrote:


  I read there (http://www.openbsd.org/art1.html):
 
   but do not make profit from them since our own T-shirt sales provide
   funding so that OpenBSD can continue to operate.
 
  Recently it was said on a mailing list, that T-shirt sales do *not*
  provide net funding, only donations and *CD* sales do. Which is true?
 

  I was a bit curious about that, too, but just figured it was a page left
 that still needed editing.

  I also have a question of my own related to Puffy and, rather than start a
 new thread, I'll go ahead and ask in this one since it's kind of on-topic.

  Before I have some weatherproof OpenBSD/Puffy stickers made up for my own
 personal use, does anyone know *off the top of your head* if there are
 already some out there, available for purchase, where proceeds find their
 way back to the project? I'd rather buy some knowing that some of the $$ is
 going to make its way back to OpenBSD than to spend the same amount and it
 all go to a corporate interest.

  By weatherproof, I plan to stick it on my motorcycle luggage where it will
 be exposed to sun, rain, snow, ice and 120km/h+ winds.

  Thanks!

  kmw

Motocycle in snow and ice? And you're only concerned with having a
weatherproof sticker? ;-)