Re: cvs is the project's VCS (Was: Re: Updating plus.html)
I have a mail of someone who is actively fought by the henchmen of No. 43! Theo de Raadt wrote [2011-11-07 18:52+0100]: > > Even if there would have been a note that the project itself has > > chosen to use cvs(1) and that git clones are unofficial. > > wow, that's backwards. History is very important. > if anything is official, we mention it. > if anything is not unofficial, we don't mention it. With time, dedication and a whole lotta love CVS sure will do fine. Even though i'm deaf most of the time, i've noted that git (i really doesn't like it, maybe libgit2 will someday even do transport and garbage-collection, and then) comes up once in a while, also on tech. Time will surely bring a lot of OpenBSD Mercurial and git full-history clones on the various large (free) hosters. In the first world internet is cheap today, and a background rlog which takes a week doesn't hurt (one may think). Would i like an official git repo? Yes, i would. And that's it for me on this now, really. Thanks for listening and good night, steffen
Re: cvs is the project's VCS (Was: Re: Updating plus.html)
Philip Guenther wrote [2011-11-07 19:03+0100]: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso > wrote: > ... > > That is to say, to end this lengthy thing, i would have > > appreciated it if i would have found some URL to a trusted git > > clone on the official OpenBSD homepage at that time. > > Even if there would have been a note that the project itself has > > chosen to use cvs(1) and that git clones are unofficial. > > "Here's a link to something that the project doesn't control, doesn't > use, and doesn't monitor." AFAIK this is a chain of trust anyway. Or are there any bots around that check the actual content of the mirrors? And here we (me, that is) talk of a service that is provided by a trusted mirror, FTP and AnonCVS. But wait - it seems to be located in the U.S.A... You're right!!! > Right, because no one will complain to the project when that's out of > date or backdoored. "It's right there on your webpage!" Anything > unofficial is strictly between you and the entity providing it, so why > would you trust that more than the result of a google search? In support.html i read The following individuals and organizations have indicated that they are able to provide support as indicated. However, the OpenBSD Project does not necessarily endorse any of these. Please contact each site directly. ..murmur.. (And the entry there which claims to be in my hometown actually moved to Ginsheim-Gustavsburg, the phone number seems to be completely out-of-date, at least if i compare support.html with his own webpage. No joke! Will mail him after this here.) > Philip Guenther steffen (Trying to be [me], though deaf)
Re: cvs is the project's VCS (Was: Re: Updating plus.html)
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: ... > That is to say, to end this lengthy thing, i would have > appreciated it if i would have found some URL to a trusted git > clone on the official OpenBSD homepage at that time. > Even if there would have been a note that the project itself has > chosen to use cvs(1) and that git clones are unofficial. "Here's a link to something that the project doesn't control, doesn't use, and doesn't monitor." Right, because no one will complain to the project when that's out of date or backdoored. "It's right there on your webpage!" Anything unofficial is strictly between you and the entity providing it, so why would you trust that more than the result of a google search? Philip Guenther
Re: cvs is the project's VCS (Was: Re: Updating plus.html)
> Even if there would have been a note that the project itself has > chosen to use cvs(1) and that git clones are unofficial. wow, that's backwards. if anything is official, we mention it. if anything is not unofficial, we don't mention it.
cvs is the project's VCS (Was: Re: Updating plus.html)
Stuart Henderson wrote [2011-11-07 9:47:53+0100]: > the three public cvs->git imports of OpenBSD are separate efforts I desperately searched for some OpenBSD git(1) repository and couldn't find one, but remembered one post of yours and so i ended up at anoncvs.estpak.ee, having no problem ever since. I don't even like that program at all (yeah, *only* because i have been "toggled off" the git mailing list, hm), i like the concept, which git also implements, and in C. I do (and even regular OpenBSD developers seem to) work with git locally; being able to use topic branches, stashing data away, cherry-picking changesets from different topics, being able to look at some history without an internet connection) etc. - these are tasks i've dreamed of in the past, maybe even wet. Etc. etc. etc. That is to say, to end this lengthy thing, i would have appreciated it if i would have found some URL to a trusted git clone on the official OpenBSD homepage at that time. Even if there would have been a note that the project itself has chosen to use cvs(1) and that git clones are unofficial. --steffen
