Re: ethernet-to-serial support

2012-02-26 Thread Byron Klippert
Just picked up one of these:

http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/10-100-Terminal-Server-1-Port-RS-232-422-485-DB9-Male/LES4011A

Using it to interconnect an IP camera (ethernet-to-serial) to a
uController. It has a simple web interface for configuration and serves
telnet and some other daemons by default. It also supports several
config profiles, one of which establishes a bidirectional tunnel once
there is an incoming TCP connection to the terminal server.

Using nc(1) on one machine I open a tcp connection to the terminal
server; nc $terminal_addr $port
Using cu(1) on a separate machine I open a line using the call-out
device.

When a character string is terminated with CR into nc(1), the packet is
sent to the terminal server and exists out the serial port.

When any character is entered into cu(1) it is instantly sent over IP
through the open TCP connection.

Hope this helps.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 07:45 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Dewey Hylton
 dewey.hyl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  - Original Message -
   From: Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
   To: misc@openbsd.org
   Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:45:52 AM
   Subject: Re: ethernet-to-serial support
  
   * Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com [2012-02-23 15:21]:
i used the digi equipment over a decade ago with both hpux and aix
with success. i'd really like to access these from my openbsd
workstation and laptop, though the documentation mentions support
for just about everything other than bsd.
are any of these usable with bsd? and by that i mean can openbsd
connect to the serial ports via ethernet with cu or something
similar?
  
   i dunno the digi stuff, but console servers usually provide access to
   the serial ports via telnet or ssh. in general you don't wanna expose
   these to the 'net, but it's good enough for a seperate vlan or the
   like to an openbsd box that you either run conserver on or just use
   to
   jump through.
 
  ahhh, and now it is clear to me how much 'smarter' these devices have
  become since i used them before. i'm relatively certain the ethernet
  connectivity was limited to 10Mbps, and i certainly don't remember any
  ssh options. that tidbit right there fixes all my worries. thanks!
 
  From personal experience, every schmuck and his brother thinks they can
 whip such devices up out of el cheapo microcomputer cards, but after you
 add up all the connectors and cabling and especially design time to get
 it
 *right*, it's usally worth the investment to just buy a commercial box
 with
 cables. Figure roughly $50/port with cabling, and you'll be in the right
 price range.
 
 These are *invaluable* when testing kernel configurations.
 
 

  Byron Klippert  
  byronklipp...@ml1.net
  (867) 332-4184



Re: ethernet-to-serial support

2012-02-25 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.comwrote:

 - Original Message -
  From: Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
  To: misc@openbsd.org
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:45:52 AM
  Subject: Re: ethernet-to-serial support
 
  * Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com [2012-02-23 15:21]:
   i used the digi equipment over a decade ago with both hpux and aix
   with success. i'd really like to access these from my openbsd
   workstation and laptop, though the documentation mentions support
   for just about everything other than bsd.
   are any of these usable with bsd? and by that i mean can openbsd
   connect to the serial ports via ethernet with cu or something
   similar?
 
  i dunno the digi stuff, but console servers usually provide access to
  the serial ports via telnet or ssh. in general you don't wanna expose
  these to the 'net, but it's good enough for a seperate vlan or the
  like to an openbsd box that you either run conserver on or just use
  to
  jump through.

 ahhh, and now it is clear to me how much 'smarter' these devices have
 become since i used them before. i'm relatively certain the ethernet
 connectivity was limited to 10Mbps, and i certainly don't remember any
 ssh options. that tidbit right there fixes all my worries. thanks!

 From personal experience, every schmuck and his brother thinks they can
whip such devices up out of el cheapo microcomputer cards, but after you
add up all the connectors and cabling and especially design time to get it
*right*, it's usally worth the investment to just buy a commercial box with
cables. Figure roughly $50/port with cabling, and you'll be in the right
price range.

These are *invaluable* when testing kernel configurations.



Re: ethernet-to-serial support

2012-02-24 Thread Sean Kamath
On Feb 23, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Henning Brauer wrote:

 * Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com [2012-02-23 15:21]:
 i used the digi equipment over a decade ago with both hpux and aix with
success. i'd really like to access these from my openbsd workstation and
laptop, though the documentation mentions support for just about everything
other than bsd.
 are any of these usable with bsd? and by that i mean can openbsd connect to
the serial ports via ethernet with cu or something similar?

 i dunno the digi stuff, but console servers usually provide access to
 the serial ports via telnet or ssh. in general you don't wanna expose
 these to the 'net, but it's good enough for a seperate vlan or the
 like to an openbsd box that you either run conserver on or just use to
 jump through.

I just hooked up a Digi TS4 to my Alix 2D13 so I can do some upgrades (in case
I pooch it and need a console; they're pretty cheap on ebay (I actually bought
a TS2 but got a TS4)).  Have another one hooked up to a Sun as well.  But
that's incoming, not outgoing.

If you want the device's serial port to appear as a serial port on an OpenBSD
box (i.e., /dev/...) you'll need some sort of driver.  Probably not THAT hard,
but. . . why?  You can just SSH or Telnet to a port on the server, and you're
talking to the serial port.  Unless you have an app that expects a serial port
device, there's no issue.

Sean

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Re: ethernet-to-serial support

2012-02-24 Thread Dewey Hylton
- Original Message -
 From: Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
 To: misc@openbsd.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:45:52 AM
 Subject: Re: ethernet-to-serial support
 
 * Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com [2012-02-23 15:21]:
  i used the digi equipment over a decade ago with both hpux and aix
  with success. i'd really like to access these from my openbsd
  workstation and laptop, though the documentation mentions support
  for just about everything other than bsd.
  are any of these usable with bsd? and by that i mean can openbsd
  connect to the serial ports via ethernet with cu or something
  similar?
 
 i dunno the digi stuff, but console servers usually provide access to
 the serial ports via telnet or ssh. in general you don't wanna expose
 these to the 'net, but it's good enough for a seperate vlan or the
 like to an openbsd box that you either run conserver on or just use
 to
 jump through.

ahhh, and now it is clear to me how much 'smarter' these devices have
become since i used them before. i'm relatively certain the ethernet
connectivity was limited to 10Mbps, and i certainly don't remember any
ssh options. that tidbit right there fixes all my worries. thanks!



ethernet-to-serial support

2012-02-23 Thread Dewey Hylton
i've been using usb-to-serial adapters to deal with equipment such as 
serial-console openbsd boxes and cisco devices. i'd like to move toward 
something like the digi or perle console servers. 

i used the digi equipment over a decade ago with both hpux and aix with 
success. i'd really like to access these from my openbsd workstation and 
laptop, though the documentation mentions support for just about everything 
other than bsd. 

are any of these usable with bsd? and by that i mean can openbsd connect to the 
serial ports via ethernet with cu or something similar?



Re: ethernet-to-serial support

2012-02-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com [2012-02-23 15:21]:
 i used the digi equipment over a decade ago with both hpux and aix with 
 success. i'd really like to access these from my openbsd workstation and 
 laptop, though the documentation mentions support for just about everything 
 other than bsd. 
 are any of these usable with bsd? and by that i mean can openbsd connect to 
 the serial ports via ethernet with cu or something similar?

i dunno the digi stuff, but console servers usually provide access to
the serial ports via telnet or ssh. in general you don't wanna expose
these to the 'net, but it's good enough for a seperate vlan or the
like to an openbsd box that you either run conserver on or just use to
jump through.

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