Re: higher resolution on tty

2006-02-13 Thread Shane J Pearson

Hi JCR,

On 2006.02.13, at 10:27 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote:

I know of no hardware query to determine supported character  
modes and

when I think about it, the task might actually be impossible; your
system graphics/video/framebuffer card may support some character  
mode
that your monitor/terminal does not support. Since there is no feed  
back


Aren't character modes built into displays a thing of older displays and
terminals? I thought that when a modern video card is in a text mode, it
is actually rendering bitmapped text characters to a bitmapped frame
buffer, which then gets sent to the display like any other image at that
given resolution?

But this resolution is limited to that which the card uses and going
beyond that would require a software controlled text to high-res
frame buffer?


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Re: higher resolution on tty

2006-02-12 Thread David Higgs
Is there a way to programmatically detect whether the hardware
supports a particular character mode?  I know there's no query
option is wsconscfg; will the driver know enough to bail, or is just a
trial-and-error scenario?

--david

On 2/12/06, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 02:51:17 +0100, Moritz Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 i want to set up my screen resolution on tty to 1024x768 and smaller
 fonts,
 because i only work on tty on this maschine and this big fonts are a
 very
 bad on a 10,4 display. So is there a way to get this work. Because
 i don't find anything in the FAQ and with google.
 
 mfg
 
 eSpo

 As Constintine pointed out there is a FAQ entry dealing with how to
 change the character resolution on terminal displays. Unfortunately, not
 all hardware supports switching character resolution.

 More importantly, you need to realize that monitors have more than one
 mode. Though there are some rare specialty monitors out there,
 usually, a monitor only two modes; (1) character mode and (2) graphics
 mode. From there, these two modes are further divided into sub-modes,
 such as graphics resolution (1024x768) and character resolution
 (80x40).

 Equally important, you need to realize that not all video output
 hardware (i.e. commonly called video cards graphics cards or frame
 buffers) supports all the possible monitor modes and sub-modes.

 When you say 1024x768 you are talking about a graphics mode measured
 in dots per inch.

 Terminals (tty) are almost always character mode, where 80x40 measures
 the number of character column and character rows.

 In other words, you are talking about two entirely different things.

 In most situations, the only thing you can do to the character mode
 output of tty is change the character resolution and Constintine pointed
 out the relevant FAQ entry.

 The most commonly used way to venture into the world of graphics mode is
 to run an X server and xterm's.

 I hope this makes things clear.

 kind regards,
 JCR



Re: higher resolution on tty

2006-02-12 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:02:23 -0500, David Higgs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Is there a way to programmatically detect whether the hardware
supports a particular character mode?  I know there's no query
option is wsconscfg; will the driver know enough to bail, or is just a
trial-and-error scenario?

--david

David,

I know of no hardware query to determine supported character modes and
when I think about it, the task might actually be impossible; your
system graphics/video/framebuffer card may support some character mode
that your monitor/terminal does not support. Since there is no feed back
from the latter (other than *you* looking at the screen), there's no way
to tell if a particular character mode works (completely).

Personally, I keep it simple and just stick to the defaults.

JCR

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higher resolution on tty

2006-02-11 Thread Moritz Lutz

Hi list,

i want to set up my screen resolution on tty to 1024x768 and smaller  
fonts,
because i only work on tty on this maschine and this big fonts are a  
very

bad on a 10,4 display. So is there a way to get this work. Because
i don't find anything in the FAQ and with google.

mfg

eSpo



Re: higher resolution on tty

2006-02-11 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 12/02/06, Moritz Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi list,

 i want to set up my screen resolution on tty to 1024x768 and smaller
 fonts,
 because i only work on tty on this maschine and this big fonts are a
 very
 bad on a 10,4 display. So is there a way to get this work. Because
 i don't find anything in the FAQ and with google.

 mfg

 eSpo

Have you seen this: URL:http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#80x50
(How do I use a console resolution of 80x50?)?

Cheers,
Constantine.



Re: higher resolution on tty

2006-02-11 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 02:51:17 +0100, Moritz Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Hi list,

i want to set up my screen resolution on tty to 1024x768 and smaller  
fonts,
because i only work on tty on this maschine and this big fonts are a  
very
bad on a 10,4 display. So is there a way to get this work. Because
i don't find anything in the FAQ and with google.

mfg

eSpo

As Constintine pointed out there is a FAQ entry dealing with how to
change the character resolution on terminal displays. Unfortunately, not
all hardware supports switching character resolution.

More importantly, you need to realize that monitors have more than one
mode. Though there are some rare specialty monitors out there,
usually, a monitor only two modes; (1) character mode and (2) graphics
mode. From there, these two modes are further divided into sub-modes,
such as graphics resolution (1024x768) and character resolution
(80x40).

Equally important, you need to realize that not all video output
hardware (i.e. commonly called video cards graphics cards or frame
buffers) supports all the possible monitor modes and sub-modes.

When you say 1024x768 you are talking about a graphics mode measured
in dots per inch.

Terminals (tty) are almost always character mode, where 80x40 measures
the number of character column and character rows.

In other words, you are talking about two entirely different things.

In most situations, the only thing you can do to the character mode
output of tty is change the character resolution and Constintine pointed
out the relevant FAQ entry.

The most commonly used way to venture into the world of graphics mode is
to run an X server and xterm's.

I hope this makes things clear.

kind regards,
JCR