Re: install sets as packages
Daniel Ouellet wrote: Will H. Backman wrote: Would there be a benefit to use the pkg_ tools to install and manage the install sets? I fail to see the point of it really. The install set is done at install time, or to add it if you miss it at the install. Plus packages tools is there to take care of dependency, etc. To remove all applications and add new one, or upgraded one. The install set are for the system and if there is upgrade to it, it's a patch. You wouldn't want someone to do: sudo pkg_delete etc39.tgz or sudo pkg_delete base39.tgz for example would you? If so, I wonder how you would still use the server? I could imagine some benefits. Add the xserv39.tgz install set, get xbase xshare and xfont maybe. I'm not sure of the dependencies. Also packages can include post install scripts, such as making the device nodes, etc. I also don't know if the package upgrade kung-fu could eventually help upgrade the base install sets such as etc. It was mostly a half baked question anyway. Food for thought. -- Will
Re: install sets as packages
Maybe the installer can stay as is but record the components in de base system as packages in /var/db/pkg so upgrades later on can be performed with pkg_add, in smaller portions. But, I have nothing to complain about the current situation, it works great now. Doing this, and doing it right will take too much developer time. Wijnand
install sets as packages
As no answer came up after a little searching on google and the openbsd FAQ... Would there be a benefit to use the pkg_ tools to install and manage the install sets? The pkg_ tools seem to be a fairly elegent system. So if money and time and developers grew on trees, would it be a reasonable goal? Just a simple design question. Yes, the installer works, so why fix what isn't broke. Yes, I'm a regular user asking other people to do work. (actually, I'm not asking for anything except knowledge). Yes, the package management system may not fit on the install floppy. I sure hope I didn't miss the FAQ entry that already answers this question. -- Will
Re: install sets as packages
Will H. Backman wrote: Would there be a benefit to use the pkg_ tools to install and manage the install sets? I fail to see the point of it really. The install set is done at install time, or to add it if you miss it at the install. Plus packages tools is there to take care of dependency, etc. To remove all applications and add new one, or upgraded one. The install set are for the system and if there is upgrade to it, it's a patch. You wouldn't want someone to do: sudo pkg_delete etc39.tgz or sudo pkg_delete base39.tgz for example would you? If so, I wonder how you would still use the server?
Re: install sets as packages
Would there be a benefit to use the pkg_ tools to install and manage the install sets? Good luck fitting the pkg_tools and perl onto the install floppies.
Re: Where to get md5 of X* install sets and packages
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:30:08 -0500 Will H. Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are looking for MD5 sums to verify the trustworthiness of the packages, I think the best way would be to purchase the official CDs from the OpenBSD store and run the MD5 tool yourself. Not the most useful answer for your immediate problem. If you don't trust the package on the ftp site, you can't trust the MD5 sums on that site either. Well, i'm downloading snapshots.. and because i only have ISDN speed, it could be that i download broken packages - they could have been updated while downloading (and i often get disconnected, wget -c thinks it's still the same file). Would be nice to check if the download was successfull. Checking the other packages is no problem. i simply download MD5 after downloading them all and check them. There's a trick to determine if there _could be_ an error: I have a close look on the modification time of the X packages before download and compare them to the value after downloading.. if they have changed i'll have to re-fetch them. With a md5 sum i could see which files need to be downloaded again if any.. cu JRL -- If you don't remember something, it never existed... If you aren't remembered, you never existed... I don't quite understand what love is like... But if there was someone who liked me, I'd be happy.
Re: Where to get md5 of X* install sets and packages
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Siju George Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:46 PM To: misc Subject: Re: Where to get md5 of X* install sets and packages On 11/18/05, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, http://ftp.jyu.fi/ftp/pub/OpenBSD/3.8/i386/MD5 doesnot give md5 sums of Xbase, Xofnts, X* install sets. Where do I get them from?? Also fro where do I get the md5 sums of packages?? Thankyou so much Just wondering why no one answered this question either on the newbie list or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it that no one knows or is it such a dump question and the answer is already some where? Didn't even get an RTFM for it. kind regards Siju If you are looking for MD5 sums to verify the trustworthiness of the packages, I think the best way would be to purchase the official CDs from the OpenBSD store and run the MD5 tool yourself. Not the most useful answer for your immediate problem. If you don't trust the package on the ftp site, you can't trust the MD5 sums on that site either.
Re: Where to get md5 of X* install sets and packages
On 11/18/05, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, http://ftp.jyu.fi/ftp/pub/OpenBSD/3.8/i386/MD5 doesnot give md5 sums of Xbase, Xofnts, X* install sets. Where do I get them from?? Also fro where do I get the md5 sums of packages?? Thankyou so much Just wondering why no one answered this question either on the newbie list or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it that no one knows or is it such a dump question and the answer is already some where? Didn't even get an RTFM for it. kind regards Siju
