Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?
On 15Mar2010 23:11, J.C. Roberts list-...@designtools.org wrote: | On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:59:01 +1100 Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au | wrote: | | I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the OpenBSD | distro not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no floppy | and the box won't boot off a USB device at all. | | apparently common ? --Never heard of it. This is the bought amd64+macppc CD2 disc image. It seems common enough for the shipped install instructions to suggest using the floppy image as a boot alternative for this architecture and for me to have tripped over this issue in the past. For what it's worth, I've downloaded the 4.5 amd64 install45.iso image and _it_ boots just fine. I've installed from there now. However, if I use the amd64 disc from the bought distro, it does not boot. I'm presuming its weird and different, perhaps doing something odd in an attempt to also boot on a PPC system? Just guessing. | If there is something wrong with your install media for amd64, then | download the ISO and burn a new copy. | ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.6/amd64/install46.iso | Even better, since we're right next to 4.7 release, install the | most recent -current snapshot: | ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/install47.iso | Your subsequent upgrade to 4.7 -release in a month or two will go a lot | more smoothly. I'm actually going with 4.5 to match this machine's partner machine. | One of the avenues I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and | then using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will | the i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the | boot sector)? | | Why shoot yourself in the foot? Because I was facing an install on a machine which won't boot off USB, has no floppy and an apparently useless amd64 install CD. Hence my desire to try getting off the ground with the i386 CD. | A better and supported alternative is to netboot the system with | the correct bsd.rd kernel and install the sets via ftp. I'll try to find the time to try out such a setup at home sometime. I was in a co-lo with few resources and some time pressure. I'd like to thank folks for the many replies to my unusual query. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ ep0: 3c509 in test mode. Erase pencil mark! This means that someone has scribbled with pencil in the test area on the card. Erase the pencil mark and reboot. (This is not a joke). - OpenBSD 2.3 ep(4) ethernet drive manual entry
Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:59:01 +1100 Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote: I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the OpenBSD distro not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no floppy and the box won't boot off a USB device at all. apparently common ? --Never heard of it. If there is something wrong with your install media for amd64, then download the ISO and burn a new copy. ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.6/amd64/install46.iso Even better, since we're right next to 4.7 release, install the most recent -current snapshot: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/install47.iso Your subsequent upgrade to 4.7 -release in a month or two will go a lot more smoothly. One of the avenues I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and then using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will the i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the boot sector)? Why shoot yourself in the foot? A better and supported alternative is to netboot the system with the correct bsd.rd kernel and install the sets via ftp. this isn't rocket surgery
Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?
2010/3/16 Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the OpenBSD distro not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no floppy and the box won't boot off a USB device at all. One of the avenues I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and then using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will the i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the boot sector)? Has anyone done this? -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ If you can't make it out of coathanger wire, you just aren't thinking. - John Whitmore Hi, it's not the same thing and it's not very simple to set up but maybe you can try to boot from lan? Look at http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#PXE Best regards -- Matteo Filippetto
Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:11:40PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:59:01 +1100 Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote: I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the OpenBSD distro not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no floppy and the box won't boot off a USB device at all. apparently common ? --Never heard of it. If there is something wrong with your install media for amd64, then download the ISO and burn a new copy. ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.6/amd64/install46.iso Even better, since we're right next to 4.7 release, install the most recent -current snapshot: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/install47.iso Your subsequent upgrade to 4.7 -release in a month or two will go a lot more smoothly. One of the avenues I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and then using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will the i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the boot sector)? Why shoot yourself in the foot? A better and supported alternative is to netboot the system with the correct bsd.rd kernel and install the sets via ftp. this isn't rocket surgery While I agree with stuff said about your foot and -current, to answer your question - yes, it should work. I don't think I've done what you propose on purpose, but I've done it by mistake enough times. Provided you're doing an install, you should be able to install the amd64 sets from an i386 rd boot. I don't see why not, though I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong. Pay attention to prompts, and realise what to ignore and what not to. Call me a nag, but do read the faqs with a clean slate in your mind. By all means buy the CDs, kittens will cry if you don't, but look again at OpenBSD -current. Be aware of where the cycle is, mind you, but this isn't an OS where -current or -head is totally evil and 1337. That said, you need to understand where your install choice fits in the cycle. I personally haven't found that -release is where I want to be. YMMV. Just remember, when you see the FTP puffy as you're downoading an ISO, that it feels good to have a -release CD, even if you only use the stickers. Not to mention the easy source preloading.
Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?
On 2010-03-16, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote: I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the OpenBSD distro not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no floppy and the box won't boot off a USB device at all. One of the avenues I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and then using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will the i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the boot sector)? Has anyone done this? if it doesn't boot at all, follow the basic method in 4.2 errata 003 http://www.openbsd.org/errata42.html if you mean, it boots and starts to load the kernel but fails sometime after that point, that won't help you, and you'll need to provide more information (e.g. at which point it fails).
Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:30:15 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2010-03-16, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote: I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the OpenBSD distro not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no floppy and the box won't boot off a USB device at all. One of the avenues I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and then using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will the i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the boot sector)? Has anyone done this? if it doesn't boot at all, follow the basic method in 4.2 errata 003 http://www.openbsd.org/errata42.html The VMware August Surprise approach keeps looking better and better. ;)
Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Cameron Simpson wrote: ...I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and then using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will the i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the boot sector)? If the network, usb or other media work in the i386 bsd.rd, you can use the i386 CD to install the AMD64 bsd.rd. Then reboot and use the AMD64 kernel to complete your installation. /Lars
installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?
I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the OpenBSD distro not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no floppy and the box won't boot off a USB device at all. One of the avenues I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and then using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will the i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the boot sector)? Has anyone done this? -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ If you can't make it out of coathanger wire, you just aren't thinking. - John Whitmore
