scrubbing problem(s) with pf

2008-09-09 Thread Parvinder Bhasin
I am having hard time with issue that some of the DSL (ATT) are having  
issues connecting to website behind my openbsd firewall.  Now if I  
switched it back to cisco asa , access works flawlessly.


Everyone including those on DSL(ATT) are able to access the website  
(with cisco) but as soon as I put my Openbsd firewall website access  
to SOME DSL (ATT) users stops working.


I troubleshooted the problem to be related to scrubbing  
(normalization of packets).
So I tried couple of options in scrubbing rules: and got couple of  
people experiencing the problem to work but there are few still  
complaining that they can't access the site.  I have tried this from  
multiple different connections.  Even with Verizon EVDO internet  
access , people can't access the site.  Its reallly weired and I have  
been pulling my hair on this.  I don't really want to put other  
firewall in.


I would like to know what other people who are running openbsd as  
firewall are using for scrubbing.


Here is what I used first time:

scrub in all

and then changed to

scrub in all no-df
scrub out all no-df

and got few of DSL users to see the site but then others still can't.   
Verizon users can't either.


Any thoughts/help highly appreciated.  I dont' want to go BALD :)

Thanks



Re: scrubbing problem(s) with pf

2008-09-09 Thread Todd T. Fries
Did you read the pf suggestions via pppoe(4) ?  ATT tends to use pppoe(4)..
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Penned by Parvinder Bhasin on 20080909  9:59.02, we have:
 I am having hard time with issue that some of the DSL (ATT) are having  
 issues connecting to website behind my openbsd firewall.  Now if I  
 switched it back to cisco asa , access works flawlessly.

 Everyone including those on DSL(ATT) are able to access the website  
 (with cisco) but as soon as I put my Openbsd firewall website access to 
 SOME DSL (ATT) users stops working.

 I troubleshooted the problem to be related to scrubbing (normalization 
 of packets).
 So I tried couple of options in scrubbing rules: and got couple of  
 people experiencing the problem to work but there are few still  
 complaining that they can't access the site.  I have tried this from  
 multiple different connections.  Even with Verizon EVDO internet access , 
 people can't access the site.  Its reallly weired and I have been pulling 
 my hair on this.  I don't really want to put other firewall in.

 I would like to know what other people who are running openbsd as  
 firewall are using for scrubbing.

 Here is what I used first time:

 scrub in all

 and then changed to

 scrub in all no-df
 scrub out all no-df

 and got few of DSL users to see the site but then others still can't.   
 Verizon users can't either.

 Any thoughts/help highly appreciated.  I dont' want to go BALD :)

 Thanks



Re: scrubbing problem(s) with pf

2008-09-09 Thread Vijay Sankar
On September 9, 2008 11:59:02 am Parvinder Bhasin wrote:
 I am having hard time with issue that some of the DSL (ATT) are having
 issues connecting to website behind my openbsd firewall.  Now if I
 switched it back to cisco asa , access works flawlessly.

 Everyone including those on DSL(ATT) are able to access the website
 (with cisco) but as soon as I put my Openbsd firewall website access
 to SOME DSL (ATT) users stops working.

 I troubleshooted the problem to be related to scrubbing
 (normalization of packets).
 So I tried couple of options in scrubbing rules: and got couple of
 people experiencing the problem to work but there are few still
 complaining that they can't access the site.  I have tried this from
 multiple different connections.  Even with Verizon EVDO internet
 access , people can't access the site.  Its reallly weired and I have
 been pulling my hair on this.  I don't really want to put other
 firewall in.

 I would like to know what other people who are running openbsd as
 firewall are using for scrubbing.

 Here is what I used first time:

 scrub in all

 and then changed to

 scrub in all no-df
 scrub out all no-df

 and got few of DSL users to see the site but then others still can't.
 Verizon users can't either.

 Any thoughts/help highly appreciated.  I dont' want to go BALD :)

 Thanks

scrub in
scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1440

has worked very well for me with my ISP. I am very interested in hearing about 
other ways of dealing with DSL connectivity.

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Vijay Sankar, M.Eng., P.Eng.
ForeTell Technologies Limited
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Phone: +1 204 885 9535, E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: scrubbing problem(s) with pf

2008-09-09 Thread Parvinder Bhasin

Todd,

Yes I have.  The problem is we cannot change anything on the client  
end we can only fix it on our end.  We have tried with cisco fw and  
the access works with those same people having issues but as soon as  
we put openbsd pf people begin to complain.  These are just few users  
that we are testing there may be other users who cannot reach the site  
either (which we don't know about).


-Parvinder Bhasin

On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Todd T. Fries wrote:

Did you read the pf suggestions via pppoe(4) ?  ATT tends to use  
pppoe(4)..

--
Todd Fries .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
| \  1.636.410.0632  
(voice)
| Free Daemon Consulting, LLC \  1.405.227.9094  
(voice)

| http://FreeDaemonConsulting.com \  1.866.792.3418 (FAX)
| ..in support of free software solutions.  \  250797 (FWD)
| \
\\

 37E7 D3EB 74D0 8D66 A68D  B866 0326 204E 3F42 004A
   http://todd.fries.net/pgp.txt

Penned by Parvinder Bhasin on 20080909  9:59.02, we have:
I am having hard time with issue that some of the DSL (ATT) are  
having

issues connecting to website behind my openbsd firewall.  Now if I
switched it back to cisco asa , access works flawlessly.

Everyone including those on DSL(ATT) are able to access the website
(with cisco) but as soon as I put my Openbsd firewall website  
access to

SOME DSL (ATT) users stops working.

I troubleshooted the problem to be related to scrubbing  
(normalization

of packets).
So I tried couple of options in scrubbing rules: and got couple of
people experiencing the problem to work but there are few still
complaining that they can't access the site.  I have tried this from
multiple different connections.  Even with Verizon EVDO internet  
access ,
people can't access the site.  Its reallly weired and I have been  
pulling

my hair on this.  I don't really want to put other firewall in.

I would like to know what other people who are running openbsd as
firewall are using for scrubbing.

Here is what I used first time:

scrub in all

and then changed to

scrub in all no-df
scrub out all no-df

and got few of DSL users to see the site but then others still can't.
Verizon users can't either.

Any thoughts/help highly appreciated.  I dont' want to go BALD :)

Thanks




Re: scrubbing problem(s) with pf

2008-09-09 Thread Ryan Corder
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:11:04PM -0500, Vijay Sankar wrote:
| scrub in
| scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1440
| 
| has worked very well for me with my ISP. I am very interested in hearing 
about 
| other ways of dealing with DSL connectivity.

scrub on $ext_if reassemble tcp
scrub in  on $ext_if all min-ttl 10
scrub out on $ext_if all no-df random-id

^^^ works great with Speakeasy DSL.