RE: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

2019-01-15 Thread Peter Bienstman 
Cool, thanks! Who’d have thought printing Unicode on OSX didn’t work ☺

Cheers,

Peter

From: Devin Howard 
Sent: 14 January 2019 17:31
To: Peter Bienstman 
Cc: mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

Ah ha, it looks like a debugging print statement was left in the code during a 
refactor of the file that processes TSV: 
https://github.com/mnemosyne-proj/mnemosyne/blob/master/mnemosyne/libmnemosyne/file_formats/tsv.py#L89

I have removed this line locally and can confirm it fixes the problem. I've 
posted a pull request to Github to fix this for the next release 
https://github.com/mnemosyne-proj/mnemosyne/pull/105

I'm posting a re-built package in this Source Forge folder 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mnemosyne-proj/files/mnemosyne/mnemosyne-2.6.1/

Try downloading the "Mnemosyne-2.6.1-tsv-fix.dmg" version and see if it helps.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:05 AM Devin Howard 
mailto:de...@callysto.com>> wrote:
I can replicate this on 2.6.1 on OSX. I'll take a look

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:18 AM Peter Bienstman 
mailto:peter.bienst...@ugent.be>> wrote:
Hi,

This must be a Mac only issue, as I can import it just fine under Windows.

Devin, would it be possible for you to have a look at this?

Thanks!

Peter

From: 
mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com<mailto:mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com>
 
mailto:mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Henrik in Oslo
Sent: 12 January 2019 21:38
To: mnemosyne-proj-users 
mailto:mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

Hi,
Thanks for quick answer.

Saved from MS-WORD (on Mac) , file as pure text (.txt), "other coding", chose 
Unicode (UTF-8). Saved also on Win 7, same problem.

Moved from 2.3.6 this autumn.

I attach file that now fail on 2.3.6  "recap 2019_jan11_EJ.txt" and one that I 
imported (without problems)while on ver  2.6.1 "recap 2015_nov22_EJ"

/ Henrik


On Saturday, 12 January 2019 06:45:28 UTC+1, Peter Bienstman wrote:
Hi,

Are you sure the file is utf8 encoded? Have you successfully imported files 
with non latin characters before, or is this the first time? If you did so 
before, do you remember which Mnemosyne version that was?

Cheers,

Peter



From: Henrik in Oslo <001h...@gmail.com<mailto:001h...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2019 18:45
To: mnemosyne-proj-users
Subject: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

Hi,
Thanks again for excellent program and work. I only recently upgraded to Mnem 
2.6.1 (on Mac 10.13.6).

I frequently add "Tab-separated text fies" (UTF-8). Ver 2.6.1 gives error 
message (attached).

I tested a re-import of a file I have previously imported. Similar error 
message.

Anything I could try?

/ Henrik
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Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

2019-01-14 Thread Devin Howard 
Ah ha, it looks like a debugging print statement was left in the code
during a refactor of the file that processes TSV:
https://github.com/mnemosyne-proj/mnemosyne/blob/master/mnemosyne/libmnemosyne/file_formats/tsv.py#L89

I have removed this line locally and can confirm it fixes the problem. I've
posted a pull request to Github to fix this for the next release
https://github.com/mnemosyne-proj/mnemosyne/pull/105

I'm posting a re-built package in this Source Forge folder
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mnemosyne-proj/files/mnemosyne/mnemosyne-2.6.1/

Try downloading the "Mnemosyne-2.6.1-tsv-fix.dmg" version and see if it
helps.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:05 AM Devin Howard  wrote:

> I can replicate this on 2.6.1 on OSX. I'll take a look
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:18 AM Peter Bienstman 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> This must be a Mac only issue, as I can import it just fine under Windows.
>>
>>
>>
>> Devin, would it be possible for you to have a look at this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com <
>> mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Henrik in Oslo
>> *Sent:* 12 January 2019 21:38
>> *To:* mnemosyne-proj-users 
>> *Subject:* Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for quick answer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Saved from MS-WORD (on Mac) , file as pure text (.txt), "other coding",
>> chose Unicode (UTF-8). Saved also on Win 7, same problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Moved from 2.3.6 this autumn.
>>
>>
>>
>> I attach file that now fail on 2.3.6  "recap 2019_jan11_EJ.txt" and one
>> that I imported (without problems)while on ver  2.6.1 "recap 2015_nov22_EJ"
>>
>>
>>
>> / Henrik
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 12 January 2019 06:45:28 UTC+1, Peter Bienstman wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Are you sure the file is utf8 encoded? Have you successfully imported
>> files with non latin characters before, or is this the first time? If you
>> did so before, do you remember which Mnemosyne version that was?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From:* Henrik in Oslo <001h...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 January 2019 18:45
>> *To:* mnemosyne-proj-users
>> *Subject:* [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks again for excellent program and work. I only recently upgraded to
>> Mnem 2.6.1 (on Mac 10.13.6).
>>
>>
>>
>> I frequently add "Tab-separated text fies" (UTF-8). Ver 2.6.1 gives error
>> message (attached).
>>
>>
>>
>> I tested a re-import of a file I have previously imported. Similar error
>> message.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anything I could try?
>>
>>
>>
>> / Henrik
>>
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Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

2019-01-14 Thread Devin Howard 
I can replicate this on 2.6.1 on OSX. I'll take a look

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:18 AM Peter Bienstman 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> This must be a Mac only issue, as I can import it just fine under Windows.
>
>
>
> Devin, would it be possible for you to have a look at this?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> *From:* mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com <
> mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Henrik in Oslo
> *Sent:* 12 January 2019 21:38
> *To:* mnemosyne-proj-users 
> *Subject:* Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for quick answer.
>
>
>
> Saved from MS-WORD (on Mac) , file as pure text (.txt), "other coding",
> chose Unicode (UTF-8). Saved also on Win 7, same problem.
>
>
>
> Moved from 2.3.6 this autumn.
>
>
>
> I attach file that now fail on 2.3.6  "recap 2019_jan11_EJ.txt" and one
> that I imported (without problems)while on ver  2.6.1 "recap 2015_nov22_EJ"
>
>
>
> / Henrik
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 12 January 2019 06:45:28 UTC+1, Peter Bienstman wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Are you sure the file is utf8 encoded? Have you successfully imported
> files with non latin characters before, or is this the first time? If you
> did so before, do you remember which Mnemosyne version that was?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Henrik in Oslo <001h...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 January 2019 18:45
> *To:* mnemosyne-proj-users
> *Subject:* [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks again for excellent program and work. I only recently upgraded to
> Mnem 2.6.1 (on Mac 10.13.6).
>
>
>
> I frequently add "Tab-separated text fies" (UTF-8). Ver 2.6.1 gives error
> message (attached).
>
>
>
> I tested a re-import of a file I have previously imported. Similar error
> message.
>
>
>
> Anything I could try?
>
>
>
> / Henrik
>
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RE: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

2019-01-14 Thread Peter Bienstman 
Hi,

This must be a Mac only issue, as I can import it just fine under Windows.

Devin, would it be possible for you to have a look at this?

Thanks!

Peter

From: mnemosyne-proj-users@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Henrik in Oslo
Sent: 12 January 2019 21:38
To: mnemosyne-proj-users 
Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

Hi,
Thanks for quick answer.

Saved from MS-WORD (on Mac) , file as pure text (.txt), "other coding", chose 
Unicode (UTF-8). Saved also on Win 7, same problem.

Moved from 2.3.6 this autumn.

I attach file that now fail on 2.3.6  "recap 2019_jan11_EJ.txt" and one that I 
imported (without problems)while on ver  2.6.1 "recap 2015_nov22_EJ"

/ Henrik


On Saturday, 12 January 2019 06:45:28 UTC+1, Peter Bienstman wrote:
Hi,

Are you sure the file is utf8 encoded? Have you successfully imported files 
with non latin characters before, or is this the first time? If you did so 
before, do you remember which Mnemosyne version that was?

Cheers,

Peter



From: Henrik in Oslo <001h...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2019 18:45
To: mnemosyne-proj-users
Subject: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

Hi,
Thanks again for excellent program and work. I only recently upgraded to Mnem 
2.6.1 (on Mac 10.13.6).

I frequently add "Tab-separated text fies" (UTF-8). Ver 2.6.1 gives error 
message (attached).

I tested a re-import of a file I have previously imported. Similar error 
message.

Anything I could try?

/ Henrik
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Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated

2019-01-12 Thread Henrik in Oslo 
Hi, 
Thanks for quick answer. 

Saved from MS-WORD (on Mac) , file as pure text (.txt), "other coding", 
chose Unicode (UTF-8). Saved also on Win 7, same problem. 

Moved from 2.3.6 this autumn.  

I attach file that now fail on 2.3.6  "recap 2019_jan11_EJ.txt" and one 
that I imported (without problems)while on ver  2.6.1 "recap 2015_nov22_EJ"

/ Henrik


On Saturday, 12 January 2019 06:45:28 UTC+1, Peter Bienstman wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> Are you sure the file is utf8 encoded? Have you successfully imported 
> files with non latin characters before, or is this the first time? If you 
> did so before, do you remember which Mnemosyne version that was? 
>
> Cheers, 
>
> Peter 
>
>
> --
> *From:* Henrik in Oslo <001h...@gmail.com >
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 January 2019 18:45
> *To:* mnemosyne-proj-users
> *Subject:* [mnemosyne-proj-users] Error on data inout Tab-separated
>
> Hi,  
> Thanks again for excellent program and work. I only recently upgraded to 
> Mnem 2.6.1 (on Mac 10.13.6). 
>
> I frequently add "Tab-separated text fies" (UTF-8). Ver 2.6.1 gives error 
> message (attached). 
>
> I tested a re-import of a file I have previously imported. Similar error 
> message. 
>
> Anything I could try? 
>
> / Henrik
>
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