RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread Joe Breeden
I would guess that these kids do not have access to computers outside school. Which 
makes access to  printed material advantageous. I guess a printer would be nice, but 
by the time the cost of it, paper, ink, and other supplies are factored in, I would 
guess that books would be cheaper.

> -Original Message-
> From: Stone, Derrick J [mailto:DJS6D@;hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:01 AM
> To: John Saylor; Nick Tonkin
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
> 
> 
> Amen.
> http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/Perl/start.html
> http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Training/PerlIntro/
> http://www.ebb.org/PickingUpPerl/
> http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/things/instruction/perl/perlcourse.html
> http://www.lanka.pair.com/techweb/perl/tutor/
> oh wait... did you say spanish?
> http://epq.com.co/~cjara/perl/tutorial.html
> no? German?
> http://www.tekromancer.com/perl/inhalt.html
> Japanese?
> http://plaza27.mbn.or.jp/~satomii/jdoc/
> 
> Perldoc is a challenge if you're new, because the syntax can 
> be hard to pick up. But for a good tutorial, a nice printer 
> would go a long way...
> 
> Derrick Stone
> Internet Specialist
> Web Development Center
> UVa Health System
> ICQ# 1464194
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Saylor [mailto:johns@;worldwinner.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:05 AM
> To: Nick Tonkin
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> ( 02.10.31 21:57 -0800 ) Nick Tonkin:
> > I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal 
> to the list
> > for donations of books on learning perl.
> 
> I'd say the best 'books' are all on line. Don't underestimate the
> [lowly] man pages. Or perldoc [-f].
> 
> And there are stories and tutorials and good stuff at 
> perl.apache.org or
> perlmonks.org or www.perl.org [and so on]. Hopefully, your 
> students [or
> school] has/have the resources necessary to use the on line resources.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> -- 
> .--- ...
> 
> 



RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread Stone, Derrick J
Amen.
http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/Perl/start.html
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Training/PerlIntro/
http://www.ebb.org/PickingUpPerl/
http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/things/instruction/perl/perlcourse.html
http://www.lanka.pair.com/techweb/perl/tutor/
oh wait... did you say spanish?
http://epq.com.co/~cjara/perl/tutorial.html
no? German?
http://www.tekromancer.com/perl/inhalt.html
Japanese?
http://plaza27.mbn.or.jp/~satomii/jdoc/

Perldoc is a challenge if you're new, because the syntax can be hard to pick up. But 
for a good tutorial, a nice printer would go a long way...

Derrick Stone
Internet Specialist
Web Development Center
UVa Health System
ICQ# 1464194


-Original Message-
From: John Saylor [mailto:johns@;worldwinner.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:05 AM
To: Nick Tonkin
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids


Hi

( 02.10.31 21:57 -0800 ) Nick Tonkin:
> I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
> for donations of books on learning perl.

I'd say the best 'books' are all on line. Don't underestimate the
[lowly] man pages. Or perldoc [-f].

And there are stories and tutorials and good stuff at perl.apache.org or
perlmonks.org or www.perl.org [and so on]. Hopefully, your students [or
school] has/have the resources necessary to use the on line resources.

Good luck!

-- 
.--- ...




RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread Joe Breeden
Me too. (and sorry to for a couple of private replies its early and I haven't had much 
caffeine this morning).

> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Parr [mailto:ryanparr@;precisiontechonline.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:57 AM
> To: Nick Tonkin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
> 
> 
> What open-source geek doesn't understand the importance, and 
> calling, of
> supporting your community?
> 
> Count me in. I think it's great that you are donating your time and
> patience. Teaching isn't easy, but you've got a great cause. 
> Send me your
> shipping address and I'll send you a Llama book.
> 
>  http://www.rain.org/~artworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/sonar.html is
> striking. I hope this girl goes on to great things.
> 
> --
> Ryan
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nick Tonkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:57 PM
> Subject: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am going to be working with a small group of 
> "disadvantaged" youngsters
> > here teaching them how to build web applications with perl and
> > apache.
> >
> > These are mostly Latino kids who have been doing analog and 
> digital art
> > for years and have self-selected into webmastering, 
> html-ing and such.
> >
> > I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal 
> to the list
> > for donations of books on learning perl.
> >
> > Of course I'm most hopeful that we can get half a dozen 
> copies of the
> > Llama book and use it as a sort of textbook, but anything will be
> > gratefully accepted.
> >
> > An existing site that shows some of the art these kids make 
> (and also
> > why we need a new one!) can be viewed at 
> http://www.rain.org/~artworks/
> >
> > A cool project by one of the students is at
> > 
> http://www.rain.org/%7Eartworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/norm
a_intro.html
>
> Thanks folks,
>
> - nick
>
> 
> Nick Tonkin   {|8^)>
>
>
>




Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread John Saylor
Hi

( 02.10.31 21:57 -0800 ) Nick Tonkin:
> I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
> for donations of books on learning perl.

I'd say the best 'books' are all on line. Don't underestimate the
[lowly] man pages. Or perldoc [-f].

And there are stories and tutorials and good stuff at perl.apache.org or
perlmonks.org or www.perl.org [and so on]. Hopefully, your students [or
school] has/have the resources necessary to use the on line resources.

Good luck!

-- 
.--- ...




Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-10-31 Thread Ryan Parr
What open-source geek doesn't understand the importance, and calling, of
supporting your community?

Count me in. I think it's great that you are donating your time and
patience. Teaching isn't easy, but you've got a great cause. Send me your
shipping address and I'll send you a Llama book.

 http://www.rain.org/~artworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/sonar.html is
striking. I hope this girl goes on to great things.

--
Ryan

- Original Message -
From: "Nick Tonkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:57 PM
Subject: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids


>
> Hi all,
>
> I am going to be working with a small group of "disadvantaged" youngsters
> here teaching them how to build web applications with perl and
> apache.
>
> These are mostly Latino kids who have been doing analog and digital art
> for years and have self-selected into webmastering, html-ing and such.
>
> I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
> for donations of books on learning perl.
>
> Of course I'm most hopeful that we can get half a dozen copies of the
> Llama book and use it as a sort of textbook, but anything will be
> gratefully accepted.
>
> An existing site that shows some of the art these kids make (and also
> why we need a new one!) can be viewed at http://www.rain.org/~artworks/
>
> A cool project by one of the students is at
> http://www.rain.org/%7Eartworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/norma_intro.html
>
> Thanks folks,
>
> - nick
>
> 
> Nick Tonkin   {|8^)>
>
>
>




[OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-10-31 Thread Nick Tonkin

Hi all,

I am going to be working with a small group of "disadvantaged" youngsters
here teaching them how to build web applications with perl and
apache. 

These are mostly Latino kids who have been doing analog and digital art
for years and have self-selected into webmastering, html-ing and such.

I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
for donations of books on learning perl.

Of course I'm most hopeful that we can get half a dozen copies of the
Llama book and use it as a sort of textbook, but anything will be
gratefully accepted.

An existing site that shows some of the art these kids make (and also
why we need a new one!) can be viewed at http://www.rain.org/~artworks/

A cool project by one of the students is at
http://www.rain.org/%7Eartworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/norma_intro.html

Thanks folks,

- nick

   
Nick Tonkin   {|8^)>