Re: ePerl (fragment of Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate)

2001-07-09 Thread Todd Finney

Yea, I tried that, but it was still unhappy.  There are apparently a 
couple of other tweaks that needed to be done.   I didn't think too 
much about it; after the first error, I went looking for information 
and found the patch.

http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/pkgsrc/textproc/eperl/Makefile

cheers,
Todd


At 01:21 AM 7/9/01, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:
The only thing I had to fix was that the Makefile didnt know about
version 5.6 otherwise it compiled cleanly... Ofcourse there is a issue
with a function declaration which gcc didnt like but it got fixed when 
I
commented it out.

  There's a patch to make it work with 5.6 floating around, but I 
 haven't
  seen anything else new in some time.




Re: ePerl (fragment of Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate)

2001-07-08 Thread Ged Haywood

Hi there,

On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Todd Finney wrote:

 We use ePerl for a fair number of things, and I have yet to run into 
 something we needed of which it was not capable.

Didn't I read somewhere that there were security concerns?

 Just asking.

Ditto.

73,
Ged.




RE: ePerl (fragment of Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate)

2001-07-08 Thread Perrin Harkins

 We use ePerl for a fair number of things, and I have yet to run into
 something we needed of which it was not capable.   What are you
 thinking of?

It's not a question of it not being capable, it's just that most people seem
to choose one of the more full-featured tools.  There's lots of talk on the
list about Apache::ASP, Embperl, Mason, etc., but not much about ePerl.
(Maybe I should do some research in the mail archives and graph the results.
Sounds like a magazine column...)  Also, I think Text::Template stole some
users away from ePerl.

Like SSI, ePerl is perfect for some people who just want a simple solution
that stays out of their way.

Also, I believe that security issue Ged referred to was fixed by the author.

- Perrin




Re: ePerl (fragment of Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate)

2001-07-08 Thread Todd Finney

At 07:47 AM 7/8/01, Ged Haywood wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Todd Finney wrote:

  We use ePerl for a fair number of things, and I have yet to run 
 into
  something we needed of which it was not capable.

Didn't I read somewhere that there were security concerns?

There was a fix made in 1998 regarding QUERY_STRING, but I think that 
was the last time anything like that came up.  I'm not even sure 
there's been a new release since then; I suppose that could mean either 
Ralf has lost interest in it, or it's just 'done'.  It's probably a 
little bit of both.

There's a patch to make it work with 5.6 floating around, but I haven't 
seen anything else new in some time.

Todd




RE: ePerl (fragment of Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate)

2001-07-08 Thread Todd Finney

At 02:40 PM 7/8/01, Perrin Harkins wrote:
  We use ePerl for a fair number of things, and I have yet to run 
 into
  something we needed of which it was not capable.   What are you
  thinking of?

It's not a question of it not being capable, it's just that most 
people seem
to choose one of the more full-featured tools.

Yea, I'm a glutton for punishment. :/ I don't necessarily mind, though 
- reinventing the wheel periodically is a good learning experience.

There's lots of talk on the list about Apache::ASP, Embperl, Mason, 
etc., but not much about ePerl.   (Maybe I should do some research in 
the mail archives and graph the results.  Sounds like a magazine 
column...)  Also, I think Text::Template stole some users away from 
ePerl.

It probably doesn't help that ePerl isn't even listed at 
perl.apache.org with the others.

Like SSI, ePerl is perfect for some people who just want a simple 
solution
that stays out of their way.

...and people that are too lazy to bother remembering the difference 
between [+ +], [- -], and [! !].

cheers,
Todd




ePerl (fragment of Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate)

2001-07-07 Thread Todd Finney

At 06:10 PM 7/7/01, Perrin Harkins wrote:
  if i'm not mistaken, Apache::ePerl builds a new
  interpreter, which also seems like overkill for many
  needs.

It's pretty easy to install, really.  However, it's not very popular 
these
days because it doesn't have all the features people end up needing.

We use ePerl for a fair number of things, and I have yet to run into 
something we needed of which it was not capable.   What are you 
thinking of?

I'm not trying to start a holy war - embperl is darn nifty, and I 
haven't used any of the other packages enough to have a solid opinion 
of them.   Right tool for the job, use what's comfortable, blah blah 
blah.

ePerl is butt-simple to install, and a snap to learn (put your perl in 
? here !).   We've been using it for ~4 years (I think), and have 
never seen a problem with it.  IIRC, according to the various 
benchmarks that bounce around periodically, it's not as fast as some of 
the other packages, but that's never been an issue for us.

Just asking.

cheers,
Todd