Re: MM doesn't work now with 0.9.6e

2002-07-31 Thread David Wall

 configure mod_ssl --with-apache=../apache_1.3.26

Seems like you need to supply mod_ssl with all of the configure directives
you show below for apache, and then when it comes time to compile apache,
you just run the auto-generated config.status script.  At least that worked
for me using the same versions you are using (under Red Hat Linux).  Of
course, I don't have mod_perl, so that may make a difference...


 install mod_perl (perl Makefile.PL APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.26/src
 DO_HTTPD=0 USE_APACI=1 PREP_HTTPD=1 EVERYTHING=1)

 set SSL_BASE and EAPI_MM variables to ../openssl0.9.6e and ../mm-1.2.1

 configure and install apache:

 ./configure --enable-module=proxy --enable-module=so
 --activate-module=src/modules/perl/libperl.a --enable-module=perl
 --enable-rule=SHARED_CORE --enable-module=ssl

 make

 make certificate

 make install


David

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Re: 56-bit/128-bit IE problems

2002-06-21 Thread David Wall

 I had originally assumed this was to do with a bug in early
 implementations of IE5, but since then we have had reports of the same
 behaviour in IE6 (which initially comes in 56-bit flavour under win2k
 unless patched).

You should read the mod ssl documentation as it describes things like he
'CipherSuite' configuration parameter to use in your Apache httpd.conf file
as defines what ciphers the client is permitted to negotiate when connecting
to your site.  Specifically, there's two I see a lot !EXP56:!EXPORT56 that
perhaps would be turnning off such support.

You could also consider getting a Thawte super cert which has a capability
to allow the 56-bit export version of IE to not be so stupid and connect at
the higher 128-bit when accessing your site.

Good luck...

David

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Re: Problem with IE

2002-02-06 Thread David Wall

 to the ApacheModuleSSL.dll file on Windows NT), it reduced the
intermittent
 Cannot find server or DNS error and Page cannot be displayed messages
 received when using the IE browser.  I never received these errors when
 using the Netscape browser.

I'd be interested to know if the mod-ssl config change solves this because I
read a Nov 2001 article in Computer Technology Review that says, and I
quote:

Internet Explorer sometimes drops SSL sessions after very short time
outs -- resulting in lost SSL connections for users.  To compensate for
this, the load balancer portion of the integrated device should be able to
decrypt the user cookie, make the correct traffic management decision, and
send the request to the right server.  Through this process, Internet
Explorer can renegotiate the SSL session ID as many times as it likes -- and
the user still ends up in the right place.  This is especially useful for
long-lived sessions (e.g. financial applications), since the cookie lives on
hte user system and does not consume memory on the load balancer.

What is all means, I'm still not sure.  I, too, have seen sessions get lost,
often very soon after establishing a session, resulting not in your error,
but in a relogin scenario, as if the actual 'session cookie' itself was
somehow getting lost in the SSL negotiation described (yes, I know the SSL
session id is distinct from the cookie session id for maintain web server
user sessions).

David

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Re: key certificate file for a server with a dynamic ip..

2001-12-02 Thread David Wall

 how can i create a key  certificate file for a server
 (linux/apache/modssl/openssl) with a dynamic ip address?

Normally, I'd guess, since certs are associated with domain names, not IP
addresses.  Of course, you'll have some fun with domain names matching your
dynamic ip address, but that's another story that DDNS is supposed to
resolve.

David

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Re: DNS lookup

2001-05-11 Thread David Wall

 It may seem that at present it's a bit of a moot point since you can't
have
 multiple SSL sites on a single IP

This is not true if you run HTTPS on another port.  In our world, this was
the initial problem.  We have a main web site that has HTTPS for
registration and login.  After the login, we redirect to another web
application (currently on the same computer) using HTTPS but with a
different port number.  This worked fine on all browsers except AOL's that
apparently decided to be slower, increase the congestion on the net and
increase consumption of DNS resources, just so they could do a confirmation
that is not even semantically correct (hell, a digital cert is assigned to a
host name, not an IP address), and if they don't believe the first DNS
lookup had the correct answer about which IP address belonged to the host
name, why do they trust the second DNS lookup to be correct for the reverse
lookup?

David

P.S. And yes, there's a backend handshake between the two web apps to ensure
that the redirected user really did login through the first site smile

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Re: AOL 6.0 and mod_ssl not working

2001-05-10 Thread David Wall

 I had similar problems with out secure site. I found that these had
 nothing to do with my Apache/mod_ssl setup. The reason why AOL
 couldn't access the site, was a mssing reverse entry in the DNS
 server. Perhaps this is the same with your site.

Thanks for this most interesting tip.  But who's DNS are they querying for
the reverse lookup?  And does the reverse lookup need to return the exact
same web server name in the certificate (i.e. www.yozons.com even though my
reverse DNS might call it w1.yozons.com because that's the computer's real
name, and it has several other alias names)?

I'd love to have this fixed, that's for sure.

Thanks,
David

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Re: DNS lookup

2001-05-10 Thread David Wall

 (they need to create a ptr record for 216.122.43.95
 that resolves to your web site name)

Thanks for this tip.  It really did seem to resolve the problem.  Apparently
the AOL HTTPS code does the reverse lookup to see if the hostname for the
specified IP address matches.

What's interesting, of course, is that this is not been a problem for any
browser we've tested before we ran into the AOL issue.  And the concept
seems broken, though, as a means of making SSL work.  Most reverse IP
addresses point to the real host name which is often different than name of
the web server.  After all, something as simple as www.yozons.com may be
routed to several different IP addresses (based on DNS round robin), and
many computers have multiple names and don't name their server 'www'.  'www'
is just the name of the web server application running on a computer that
may also do email or other applications.

It also means that if I want to run HTTPS on port 443 as well as another on
port 4430 (since SSL doesn't really work for virtual domain naming in
Apache), that there would be a problem because only one IP address exists
and I've got two web servers running using different names.

Anyway, thanks so much for helping us troubleshoot this.  It was a real
mystery why we could have so many testers hit our site just fine, but
couldn't get AOL to connect at all.

David

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AOL 6.0 and mod_ssl not working

2001-05-09 Thread David Wall




I have a site running at https://www.yozons.com I can 
access this site from a bunch of places, but from AOL 6.0 dialup, I cannot even 
make it open a connection. I can open it with http.

I'm running Apache 1.3.19 with MM 1.1.3 and mod_ssl 2.8.1 and openssl 0.9.6 
on Linux.

Does anybody have any idea why AOL would have trouble, but I can access it 
from other ISPs okay?Thanks,
David