RE: Startup Script

2002-11-03 Thread Lawrence Cole
Owen,

Both solutions work.  Thank you very much for your time and patience.


Regards,

-Lawrence



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[mailto:owner-modssl-users;modssl.org] On Behalf Of Boyle Owen
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Startup Script


To expand a little on my previous post:

When you run a shell-script, it forks a new shell which doesn't usually
inherit environment variables from the calling shell. So you have to set
any envs in the script. To do this under the standard shell (i.e.
/bin/sh) you need two lines:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH

Under the tcsh, you'd only need one:

setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH
/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib

So that's how to get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work.

However, the use of LD_LIBRARY_PATH is generally discouraged for several
reasons - it breaks encapsulation by making the execution of a binary
dependent on the shell (hence your problem), it invites namespace
problems if two libraries in different lib directories have the same
name (the binary will load the first it finds on the path), on large
projects with lots of development libs, the path can become unfeasibly
large, etc. etc.

A much cleaner solution is to define the paths when compiling. Thus the
binary carries with it the paths to just those directories it needs. To
do this, define the CFLAGS environment variable in the shell in which
you configure apache, i.e.

CFLAGS=-L/lib -R/lib -L/usr/lib -R/usr/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib
-R/usr/openwin/lib
export CFLAGS
./configure additional options

When you run make, you will find that the CFLAGS above will appear on
the compile line and the resulting binary will find its libraries from
these internal symbols.

Compiling is a bit of a black art at times and I don't really understand
all of it myself - the advices in this note are just some distillations
of my own experiences and things I found when trawling the web..

Rgds,

Owen Boyle

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Cole [mailto:lmcole;cisco.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2002 21:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Startup Script


Boyle,

Thank you for your suggestions.

Adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib
to the startup script does not help.

Sourcing root's .profile before running the apachectl startssl command
does not help.  The LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set in the .profile.

So the last thing to try are the -R and -L compile-time option pairs for
each library.  I have a rookie question to ask.  Where do I use these? I
can't use them with the .configure or make commands.  Do I need to edit
the Makefile?  Can you give me an example?

Regards,

Lawrence


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-modssl-users;modssl.org] On Behalf Of Boyle Owen
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Startup Script


Quick fix is to put in the startup script:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib

before it tries to start apache..

Better fix is to recompile apache with the additional compile-time
options: -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib etc. (one pair for each
lib). This should build the paths to the libs into the binary and then
you don't need LD_LIBRARY_PATH at all.

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Cole [mailto:lmcole;cisco.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2002 04:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Startup Script


Greetings everyone,

I realize this situation has come up before, but none of the suggestions
I have seen have worked for me.

I have created an Apache 1.3.26 / mod_ssl 2.8.10 server.  No problems
creating it, and no problems starting from the command line.  I am
however, unable to start automatically at boot using a script in the
rc3.d directory.  When I try to start it automatically using:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Start SSL-Aware Apache http daemon
#
echo Start SSL-Aware Apache httpd
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl


I get the following error:

ld.so.1: /opt/apache/bin/httpd: fatal: libexpat.so.0: open failed: No
such file or directory Killed /opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl: httpd
could not be started

Once the system is booted up the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib, and I can run
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl just fine.  For automation reasons,
I need to boot at startup.  Any suggestions?

Regards,

Lawrence

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RE: Startup Script

2002-10-31 Thread Boyle Owen
To expand a little on my previous post:

When you run a shell-script, it forks a new shell which doesn't usually
inherit environment variables from the calling shell. So you have to set
any envs in the script. To do this under the standard shell (i.e.
/bin/sh) you need two lines:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH

Under the tcsh, you'd only need one:

setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH
/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib

So that's how to get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work.

However, the use of LD_LIBRARY_PATH is generally discouraged for several
reasons - it breaks encapsulation by making the execution of a binary
dependent on the shell (hence your problem), it invites namespace
problems if two libraries in different lib directories have the same
name (the binary will load the first it finds on the path), on large
projects with lots of development libs, the path can become unfeasibly
large, etc. etc.

A much cleaner solution is to define the paths when compiling. Thus the
binary carries with it the paths to just those directories it needs. To
do this, define the CFLAGS environment variable in the shell in which
you configure apache, i.e.

CFLAGS=-L/lib -R/lib -L/usr/lib -R/usr/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib
-R/usr/openwin/lib
export CFLAGS
./configure additional options

When you run make, you will find that the CFLAGS above will appear on
the compile line and the resulting binary will find its libraries from
these internal symbols.

Compiling is a bit of a black art at times and I don't really understand
all of it myself - the advices in this note are just some distillations
of my own experiences and things I found when trawling the web..

Rgds,

Owen Boyle

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Cole [mailto:lmcole;cisco.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2002 21:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Startup Script


Boyle,

Thank you for your suggestions.

Adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib
to the startup script does not help.

Sourcing root's .profile before running the apachectl startssl command
does not help.  The LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set in the .profile.

So the last thing to try are the -R and -L compile-time option pairs for
each library.  I have a rookie question to ask.  Where do I use these?
I can't use them with the .configure or make commands.  Do I need to
edit the Makefile?  Can you give me an example?

Regards,

Lawrence


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-modssl-users;modssl.org] On Behalf Of Boyle Owen
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Startup Script


Quick fix is to put in the startup script:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib

before it tries to start apache..

Better fix is to recompile apache with the additional compile-time
options: -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib etc. (one pair for each
lib). This should build the paths to the libs into the binary and then
you don't need LD_LIBRARY_PATH at all.

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Cole [mailto:lmcole;cisco.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2002 04:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Startup Script


Greetings everyone,

I realize this situation has come up before, but none of the suggestions
I have seen have worked for me.

I have created an Apache 1.3.26 / mod_ssl 2.8.10 server.  No problems
creating it, and no problems starting from the command line.  I am
however, unable to start automatically at boot using a script in the
rc3.d directory.  When I try to start it automatically using:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Start SSL-Aware Apache http daemon
#
echo Start SSL-Aware Apache httpd
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl


I get the following error:

ld.so.1: /opt/apache/bin/httpd: fatal: libexpat.so.0: open failed: No
such file or directory Killed /opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl: httpd
could not be started

Once the system is booted up the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib, and I can run
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl just fine.  For automation reasons,
I need to boot at startup.  Any suggestions?

Regards,

Lawrence

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RE: Startup Script

2002-10-30 Thread Boyle Owen
Quick fix is to put in the startup script:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib

before it tries to start apache..

Better fix is to recompile apache with the additional compile-time
options: -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib etc. (one pair for each
lib). This should build the paths to the libs into the binary and then
you don't need LD_LIBRARY_PATH at all.

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Cole [mailto:lmcole;cisco.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2002 04:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Startup Script


Greetings everyone,

I realize this situation has come up before, but none of the suggestions
I have seen have worked for me.

I have created an Apache 1.3.26 / mod_ssl 2.8.10 server.  No problems
creating it, and no problems starting from the command line.  I am
however, unable to start automatically at boot using a script in the
rc3.d directory.  When I try to start it automatically using:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Start SSL-Aware Apache http daemon
#
echo Start SSL-Aware Apache httpd
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl


I get the following error:

ld.so.1: /opt/apache/bin/httpd: fatal: libexpat.so.0: open failed: No
such file or directory
Killed
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not be started

Once the system is booted up the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib, and I can run
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl just fine.  For automation reasons,
I need to boot at startup.  Any suggestions?

Regards,

Lawrence

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RE: Startup Script

2002-10-30 Thread Lawrence Cole
It's the last script to run in the directory.  It's an S99 file.  I'm
running Solaris 8 with the latest patch cluster from Sun.

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[mailto:owner-modssl-users;modssl.org] On Behalf Of Rick Widmer
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Startup Script


At 08:52 PM 10/29/02 -0700, Lawrence Cole wrote:

ld.so.1: /opt/apache/bin/httpd: fatal: libexpat.so.0: open failed: No 
such
file or directory
Killed
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not be started
Once the system is booted up the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is 
/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib, and I can run 
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl just fine.  For automation
reasons, I 
need to boot at startup.  Any suggestions?


When in the startup sequence are you starting Apache?  It needs to be
very 
late in the process. The only thing I do AFTER starting apache in myh 
startup scripts is run a process that assigns the ailias IP addresses to

the server.

Without knowing what OS you are using I can't make any suggestions on 
exactly how to fix it, but I'm sure it is a matter of starting Apache
late 
in the process.

Rick


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RE: Startup Script

2002-10-30 Thread Lawrence Cole
Boyle,

Thank you for your suggestions.

Adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib
to the startup script does not help.

Sourcing root's .profile before running the apachectl startssl command
does not help.  The LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set in the .profile.

So the last thing to try are the -R and -L compile-time option pairs for
each library.  I have a rookie question to ask.  Where do I use these?
I can't use them with the .configure or make commands.  Do I need to
edit the Makefile?  Can you give me an example?

Regards,

Lawrence


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-modssl-users;modssl.org] On Behalf Of Boyle Owen
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Startup Script


Quick fix is to put in the startup script:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib

before it tries to start apache..

Better fix is to recompile apache with the additional compile-time
options: -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib etc. (one pair for each
lib). This should build the paths to the libs into the binary and then
you don't need LD_LIBRARY_PATH at all.

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Cole [mailto:lmcole;cisco.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2002 04:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Startup Script


Greetings everyone,

I realize this situation has come up before, but none of the suggestions
I have seen have worked for me.

I have created an Apache 1.3.26 / mod_ssl 2.8.10 server.  No problems
creating it, and no problems starting from the command line.  I am
however, unable to start automatically at boot using a script in the
rc3.d directory.  When I try to start it automatically using:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Start SSL-Aware Apache http daemon
#
echo Start SSL-Aware Apache httpd
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl


I get the following error:

ld.so.1: /opt/apache/bin/httpd: fatal: libexpat.so.0: open failed: No
such file or directory Killed /opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl: httpd
could not be started

Once the system is booted up the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib, and I can run
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl just fine.  For automation reasons,
I need to boot at startup.  Any suggestions?

Regards,

Lawrence

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Re: Startup Script

2002-10-29 Thread Rick Widmer
At 08:52 PM 10/29/02 -0700, Lawrence Cole wrote:


ld.so.1: /opt/apache/bin/httpd: fatal: libexpat.so.0: open failed: No such 
file or directory
Killed
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not be started
Once the system is booted up the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is 
/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/openwin/lib, and I can run 
/opt/apache/bin/apachectl startssl just fine.  For automation reasons, I 
need to boot at startup.  Any suggestions?


When in the startup sequence are you starting Apache?  It needs to be very 
late in the process. The only thing I do AFTER starting apache in myh 
startup scripts is run a process that assigns the ailias IP addresses to 
the server.

Without knowing what OS you are using I can't make any suggestions on 
exactly how to fix it, but I'm sure it is a matter of starting Apache late 
in the process.

Rick


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