Re: [Mono-list] kernel support
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:40:38PM -0700, George Farris wrote: This of course doesn't work since it registers both mono and wine binaries. What we really need is native support under Linux so that the file command returns something like so: MONO 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV) for Linux If nono compiles to native code (Intel 80386), wouldn't it make sense to simply use ELF files. For IL assemblies 'file' probably shouldn't mention mono, intel or linux. There will be times when one just wants the app to run under Linux because it is designed for it. Isn't the whole point of .NET to eliminate platform dependacies. As long as the correct asseblies are present applications should run anywhere, right? sam -- sam clegg :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: http://superduper.net/ :: PGP : D91EE369 $superduper: .signature,v 1.13 2003/06/17 10:29:24 sam Exp $ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Mono-list] kernel support
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 04:04, Sam Clegg wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:40:38PM -0700, George Farris wrote: This of course doesn't work since it registers both mono and wine binaries. What we really need is native support under Linux so that the file command returns something like so: MONO 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV) for Linux If nono compiles to native code (Intel 80386), wouldn't it make sense to simply use ELF files. For IL assemblies 'file' probably shouldn't mention mono, intel or linux. This of course is a valid point however mono executable don't compile to native ELF files. They require the mono virtual machine to run. Now having said that I think you have hit upon the solution. We need to be able to compile mono apps to standalone ELF executables. Seems there was some mention of compiling mono to native ELF at one point has it gone anywhere? There will be times when one just wants the app to run under Linux because it is designed for it. Isn't the whole point of .NET to eliminate platform dependacies. As long as the correct asseblies are present applications should run anywhere, right? This is only true where the author desires this. There are times when one just wants a plain old Linux app and the application is so closely tied to Linux internally that it is a makes no sense to use it otherwise. Imagine an application that dealt with the /proc filesystem. Completely useless under any other platform. -- George Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] kernel support
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 09:08:56PM -0700, George Farris wrote: Does anyone know what the plans are for kernel support of mono binaries? Right now a binary mono file shows as: The debian package installs support for direct running of PE files using mono through the kernel CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC system. I suspect other distros have their own ways of installing such handlers. MS Windows PE 32-bit Intel 80386 console executable This is what 'file' says, I guess the 80386 part is slightly misleading. sam -- sam clegg :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: http://superduper.net/ :: PGP : D91EE369 $superduper: .signature,v 1.12 2003/04/14 10:50:50 sam Exp $ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Mono-list] kernel support
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 06:08, George Farris wrote: here is a script to register mono with the binfmt misc handler: http://www.atoker.com/mono/mono.init / pit ___ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] kernel support
This of course doesn't work since it registers both mono and wine binaries. What we really need is native support under Linux so that the file command returns something like so: MONO 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV) for Linux There will be times when one just wants the app to run under Linux because it is designed for it. If a flag is set in the compiler then this is set. On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:01, Karl Pitrich wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 06:08, George Farris wrote: here is a script to register mono with the binfmt misc handler: http://www.atoker.com/mono/mono.init / pit ___ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list -- George Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] kernel support
Does anyone know what the plans are for kernel support of mono binaries? Right now a binary mono file shows as: MS Windows PE 32-bit Intel 80386 console executable This of course, is totally unacceptable on a Linux machine. I want to be able to run my binaries directly instead of through a shell script. -- George Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] kernel support
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:08, George Farris wrote: Does anyone know what the plans are for kernel support of mono binaries? Right now a binary mono file shows as: MS Windows PE 32-bit Intel 80386 console executable What command displays this?? This of course, is totally unacceptable on a Linux machine. I want to be able to run my binaries directly instead of through a shell script. Well, for executable file which starts with the byte sequence corresponding to #!, the application loader will extract the following characters up to the next linefeed, and start that application passing the executed filename as a parameter. This is most familiar from shell scripts, perl, etc., but it works for any interpreter and mono is an interpreter... So if (a) the mono compiler inserts: #!mono\n at the start of each binary, and (b) the mono runtime skips over these bytes when they occur at the start of an executable then it should be possible to start mono executables as if they were native. I'm a real newbie to mono, so I don't know if this functionality already exists... Cheers, Simon ___ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
RE: [Mono-list] kernel support
That would break mono binaries on other CLIs though.. Try this: http://go-mono.com/tutorial/html/en/installation/linux.html (bottom of the page) Regards, ^Tum -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mono-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Kitching Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2003 5:31 p.m. To: George Farris Cc: mono list; mono devel list Subject: Re: [Mono-list] kernel support On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:08, George Farris wrote: Does anyone know what the plans are for kernel support of mono binaries? Right now a binary mono file shows as: MS Windows PE 32-bit Intel 80386 console executable What command displays this?? This of course, is totally unacceptable on a Linux machine. I want to be able to run my binaries directly instead of through a shell script. Well, for executable file which starts with the byte sequence corresponding to #!, the application loader will extract the following characters up to the next linefeed, and start that application passing the executed filename as a parameter. This is most familiar from shell scripts, perl, etc., but it works for any interpreter and mono is an interpreter... So if (a) the mono compiler inserts: #!mono\n at the start of each binary, and (b) the mono runtime skips over these bytes when they occur at the start of an executable then it should be possible to start mono executables as if they were native. I'm a real newbie to mono, so I don't know if this functionality already exists... Cheers, Simon ___ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
