Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-13 Thread Markus Schiltknecht

Hi,

please everybody: fill in dates you can attend a monotone summit in 2008 
here: http://www.venge.net/mtn-wiki/MtnSummit2008  -- it helps a lot 
getting a date fixed soon and having a rough idea of how many people 
might want to come.


I wrote:
I've mailed Leslie 
and asked if Google would be interested in sponsoring again.


According to Leslie, Google may very well be interested in supporting us 
again. However, I'm unclear if it's possible to hold the summit at 
Google/Zurich or if Leslie wants us to come to Mountain View ;-)


I can certainly do most of the organizational stuff involved if we can 
get this summit set up in Zurich. It would obviously get more difficult 
for me, if we'd go with Google/MtnView. I could help organizing anyway.


As Leslie and Nathaniel were talking about April 2008 - and because that 
would give us more time for organizing, I favor that now. It seems like 
a more realistic date.



I'm still open for other possibilities and locations. FOSDEM seems 
attracting, too. Maybe we should now try to get a DevRoom anyway? Who is 
planning to attend FOSDEM? If we get at least three developers together, 
we could organize a user focused event. Anybody up for it?


Regards

Markus


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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-12 Thread Markus Schiltknecht

Hi,

Nathaniel Smith wrote:

If anything, it's probably on the late side to be organizing for
January/February, so people probably would want to get on it quick...


Yeah, better late than never ;-)   Besides, are there any good reasons 
that it must be Jan/Feb?  We could still do in in March or even April, no?



I would not be surprised if Google were willing to offer space again,
or there are other options like above.  I don't know that Google's
non-Mountain View campuses are set up for anything like this, but I
don't know that they aren't, either (though there'd be no Leslie
there, obviously :-)).  Whoever decides to make things actually happen
would of course get to make final decision on all these things, Europe
vs. other continents etc. :-)


Looks like somebody just needs to step forward...  I've mailed Leslie 
and asked if Google would be interested in sponsoring again.


I'm very enthusiastic about Google's biggest European office in Zurich, 
sort of my home town. Take a look at [1]!  But maybe that's just me 
being overly excited about Zurich...


Anybody else interested in helping to organize?

Regards

Markus

[1]: Working at Google Zurich, a YouTube Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPz1Mou-Xxk



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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-12 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Markus Schiltknecht writes:
 Hi,

 Nathaniel Smith wrote:
 If anything, it's probably on the late side to be organizing for
 January/February, so people probably would want to get on it quick...

 Yeah, better late than never ;-)   Besides, are there any good reasons
 that it must be Jan/Feb?  We could still do in in March or even April,
 no?

It is not too late to ask for a developers' room at FOSDEM in Brussels
(23-24 Feb 2008).  See http://fosdem.org.  Since I live in Brussels, I
will definitely attend and can accommodate one person at no charge.
I'm also trying to set up an Ada developers' room with several
interesting speeches.

-- 
Ludovic Brenta.



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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-12 Thread Siegfried Herbold
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Markus Schiltknecht wrote:
 Hello Siegfried,
 
 Siegfried Herbold wrote:
 Maybe there is a location of the same size like Google with:
 - - - free (firewall/charge) internet
 - - - two projection surfaces, but only one mounted beamer (one
 unmounted beamer to organize)
 - - - one flip chart
 - - - open for us 24/7
 - - - free of charge
 
 Can you be a little more specific, i.e. where is that room? Close to an
 airport? At least somewhat attractive for visitors?

TechnoloieCenter Wuppertal, Germany (www.w-tec.de), 0.5h by car / 1.1h by train 
from international Airport Duesseldorf (DUS)
 
 There is no problem with public transport (200 meters from location)
 
 In most cities in Europe, that's not much of a problem, I guess.
 
 Regards
 
 Markus
 

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-12 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Markus Schiltknecht writes:
 Hi,

 Ludovic Brenta wrote:
 It is not too late to ask for a developers' room at FOSDEM in Brussels
 (23-24 Feb 2008).  See http://fosdem.org.  Since I live in Brussels, I
 will definitely attend and can accommodate one person at no charge.
 I'm also trying to set up an Ada developers' room with several
 interesting speeches.

 That's also a good idea! Do you know the deadline for reserving such a
 DevRoom? Their website isn't too informative to me today
 (i.e. DevRooms is an empty page from here).

From past experience, the deadline is mid-October.  However, this is
not set in stone and this year they're having serious problems with
the organisation.  From yesterday's update on the web site, it seems
(some of) the problems have been solved.  I would suggest asking for a
dev room very soon if enough people are interested.

-- 
Ludovic Brenta.



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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-12 Thread Markus Schiltknecht

Hello Siegfried,

Siegfried Herbold wrote:

Maybe there is a location of the same size like Google with:
- - - free (firewall/charge) internet
- - - two projection surfaces, but only one mounted beamer (one unmounted 
beamer to organize)
- - - one flip chart
- - - open for us 24/7
- - - free of charge


Can you be a little more specific, i.e. where is that room? Close to an 
airport? At least somewhat attractive for visitors?



There is no problem with public transport (200 meters from location)


In most cities in Europe, that's not much of a problem, I guess.

Regards

Markus


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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-12 Thread Siegfried Herbold
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Nathaniel Smith wrote:

  My problem is that I'm probably not up to helping much with the
  organization this time -- I'll certainly be interested in coming,
  though!  Sponsorship was very helpful, but it's not a necessary thing.
  The hard and urgent part is finding space and picking dates -- last
  year, of course, Google gave us space and some money towards lodging,
  so that determined the space part of things.  (The other options I
  thought about were either borrowing space from a friendly company that
  is less massive than Google, which companies are much easier to find
  but it's much harder to get space during weekdays; or else lodging in
  a hotel that had free wifi and at getting one suite that could serve
  as a work area during the day.)  (You also want to think about
  transportation issues -- in Europe I guess there is generally public
  transportation?  Basically just making sure that there is some
  sensible way for people to eat during days without requiring elaborate
  load-everyone-in-a-car stuff.  Google, of course, made this
  super-easy.)
 
  I would not be surprised if Google were willing to offer space again,
  or there are other options like above.  I don't know that Google's
  non-Mountain View campuses are set up for anything like this, but I
  don't know that they aren't, either (though there'd be no Leslie
  there, obviously :-)).  Whoever decides to make things actually happen
  would of course get to make final decision on all these things, Europe
  vs. other continents etc.  :-)
 
  -- Nathaniel
 


Maybe there is a location of the same size like Google with:
- - - free (firewall/charge) internet
- - - two projection surfaces, but only one mounted beamer (one unmounted 
beamer to organize)
- - - one flip chart
- - - open for us 24/7
- - - free of charge

There are two possibilities of full service catering in the room and in a 
neighbour building is a canteen (breakfast and lunch only)

There is no problem with public transport (200 meters from location)


Regards

Siggi

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-12 Thread Markus Schiltknecht

Hi,

Ludovic Brenta wrote:

It is not too late to ask for a developers' room at FOSDEM in Brussels
(23-24 Feb 2008).  See http://fosdem.org.  Since I live in Brussels, I
will definitely attend and can accommodate one person at no charge.
I'm also trying to set up an Ada developers' room with several
interesting speeches.


That's also a good idea! Do you know the deadline for reserving such a 
DevRoom? Their website isn't too informative to me today (i.e. DevRooms 
is an empty page from here).


Regards

Markus



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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-12 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 11:12:15AM +0200, Markus Schiltknecht wrote:
 Nathaniel Smith wrote:
 If anything, it's probably on the late side to be organizing for
 January/February, so people probably would want to get on it quick...
 
 Yeah, better late than never ;-)   Besides, are there any good reasons 
 that it must be Jan/Feb?  We could still do in in March or even April, no?

No, no particular reason -- I think last year it just happened then
because by the time we started planning it was too late to do it
before Jan/Feb, and there was no reason to hold it off until after
that.

On further thought, a time after March 22 would be much better for me
personally, because I'm a teaching assistant for the winter quarter
this year, so that makes it quite tricky for me to get away between
January 4 and March 22 (would need to find someone else to take my
class, couldn't do it at all during test times, etc.).

-- Nathaniel

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-11 Thread Markus Schiltknecht

Hey Thomas,

Thomas Keller wrote:

Is there a general interest of doing another summit next year - maybe
again in January/February?


LOL, I was just thinking about it and that we should start organizing 
such a thing if we are heading for the same time of the year...



We should have more than enough topics for it, a lot of things still nag
my personal feeling about monotone (automate interface, selectors,
policy *cough* branches, partial pull, ...) and I think it would be a
great opportunity for us all to bring monotone just another big step foward.


Full ACK.


You know I couldn't attend to the last / first one this year, but I'd
really like to make it this time. But since I'm even more broken than
last year all I could afford is something in Europe. Opinions?


To be able to meet everybody in person, I'd favor a single event, as 
opposed to multiple local ones. OTOH that's certainly more expensive. 
Any chance of getting some sponsorship again? Maybe for an event in 
Europe? Asking Google Switzerland? ...


If we can't get funds for a worldwide event, we should better try to 
organize local gatherings. But let's check for funds, first.


I'm certainly willing to help organizing.

Regards

Markus



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Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-11 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:25:34AM +0200, Markus Schiltknecht wrote:
 Thomas Keller wrote:
 Is there a general interest of doing another summit next year - maybe
 again in January/February?
 
 LOL, I was just thinking about it and that we should start organizing 
 such a thing if we are heading for the same time of the year...

If anything, it's probably on the late side to be organizing for
January/February, so people probably would want to get on it quick...

 You know I couldn't attend to the last / first one this year, but I'd
 really like to make it this time. But since I'm even more broken than
 last year all I could afford is something in Europe. Opinions?
 
 To be able to meet everybody in person, I'd favor a single event, as 
 opposed to multiple local ones. OTOH that's certainly more expensive. 
 Any chance of getting some sponsorship again? Maybe for an event in 
 Europe? Asking Google Switzerland? ...
 
 If we can't get funds for a worldwide event, we should better try to 
 organize local gatherings. But let's check for funds, first.
 
 I'm certainly willing to help organizing.

My problem is that I'm probably not up to helping much with the
organization this time -- I'll certainly be interested in coming,
though!  Sponsorship was very helpful, but it's not a necessary thing.
The hard and urgent part is finding space and picking dates -- last
year, of course, Google gave us space and some money towards lodging,
so that determined the space part of things.  (The other options I
thought about were either borrowing space from a friendly company that
is less massive than Google, which companies are much easier to find
but it's much harder to get space during weekdays; or else lodging in
a hotel that had free wifi and at getting one suite that could serve
as a work area during the day.)  (You also want to think about
transportation issues -- in Europe I guess there is generally public
transportation?  Basically just making sure that there is some
sensible way for people to eat during days without requiring elaborate
load-everyone-in-a-car stuff.  Google, of course, made this
super-easy.)

I would not be surprised if Google were willing to offer space again,
or there are other options like above.  I don't know that Google's
non-Mountain View campuses are set up for anything like this, but I
don't know that they aren't, either (though there'd be no Leslie
there, obviously :-)).  Whoever decides to make things actually happen
would of course get to make final decision on all these things, Europe
vs. other continents etc. :-)

-- Nathaniel

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see Him if you don't struggle to get them right. -- Stephen Jay Gould


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[Monotone-devel] Monotone Summit 2008

2007-10-10 Thread Thomas Keller
Hi folks!

Is there a general interest of doing another summit next year - maybe
again in January/February?

We should have more than enough topics for it, a lot of things still nag
my personal feeling about monotone (automate interface, selectors,
policy *cough* branches, partial pull, ...) and I think it would be a
great opportunity for us all to bring monotone just another big step foward.

You know I couldn't attend to the last / first one this year, but I'd
really like to make it this time. But since I'm even more broken than
last year all I could afford is something in Europe. Opinions?

Thomas.

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