Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p

[allen day]

Many thanks for providing pics of authentic poster pre / post backing

Kudos

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On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Dominique BESSON 
wrote:

> Greetings from France,
>
> Definitely 99.9% of those large 47x63in “Lolita” are repros printed in the
> 80’s with the original plates, and printed in litho, it is why they are so
> great quality.
>
> I came across an original folded copy a couple months ago.
>
> Here are the links to check this original copy before and after
> linenbacking :
>
> Folded : http://dominiquebesson.com/lolita-originale-pliee.jpg
> Linen : http://dominiquebesson.com/lolita-originale-linen.jpg
>
> Hope this could help you
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dominique BESSON
>
>
> DOMINIQUE BESSON AFFICHES
> 7 rue Choron
> 75009 Paris
> France
>
> Phone : 33.613.451.355
>
> http://www.dominiquebesson.com
> http://www.mondographics.net
> http://www.affichesdecinema.com
> http://www.chagall-posters.net
>
>
> *From:* Info Movie Poster Art Gallery
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> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p
>
> “I thought the repros were not litho printed? “
>
> I’m sure they were, hence all the problems, finding their way into
> Christies etc..
>
>
> On 11/05/2017 20:57, "MPB Warehouse" 
> wrote:
>
> At 12:12 PM 5/11/2017, Richard C Evans wrote:
>
> Interesting. Was going to ask how the  repros were printed since originals
> stone/hand drawn litho.
>
> Can't seem to find an image or any original online, seems unusually rare.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 11 May 2017, at 18:42, Info Movie Poster Art Gallery <
> wlmailhtml:i...@mpag.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> The repros were around persistently (and being auctioned) still in the
> late 90s. Apart from anything else, they just looked far too new. Rather
> alarming that they were proper lithos. True or not, there were stories
> about the original plates being rediscovered enabling them to be printed.
>
> I personally only ever saw one genuine vintage original, and it was like
> night and day, with the typical aging (as others have referred to) of
> French paper from that time, especially along the folds. However, you do
> occasionally come across even French white paper from that period that
> hasnâ•˙t aged that much - very recently saw a French Grande Le Conformiste
> where this was the case, although that did have some ink transfer marks
> from the black where it had been folded.
>
> Tim
>
>
> I thought the repros were not litho printed?
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Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p

[Helmut Hamm]

On the digital images, the colors look entirely different: The upper background 
of the original is light blue, while the reprint looks more like a mint green. 
Is this difference evident in the actual poster? 

Helmut


> Am 12.05.2017 um 14:08 schrieb Dominique BESSON :
> 
> Greetings from France,
>  
> Definitely 99.9% of those large 47x63in “Lolita” are repros printed in the 
> 80’s with the original plates, and printed in litho, it is why they are so 
> great quality.
>  
> I came across an original folded copy a couple months ago.
>  
> Here are the links to check this original copy before and after linenbacking :
>  
> Folded : http://dominiquebesson.com/lolita-originale-pliee.jpg 
> 
> Linen : http://dominiquebesson.com/lolita-originale-linen.jpg 
> 
>  
> Hope this could help you
>  
> Sincerely
>  
> Dominique BESSON
>  
>  
> DOMINIQUE BESSON AFFICHES
> 7 rue Choron
> 75009 Paris
> France
> 
> Phone : 33.613.451.355
> 
> http://www.dominiquebesson.com 
> http://www.mondographics.net 
> http://www.affichesdecinema.com 
> http://www.chagall-posters.net 
> 
>  
> From: Info Movie Poster Art Gallery <>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 12:40 PM
> To:  <>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p
>  
> “I thought the repros were not litho printed? “
> 
> I’m sure they were, hence all the problems, finding their way into Christies 
> etc..
> 
> 
> On 11/05/2017 20:57, "MPB Warehouse"  > wrote:
> 
>> At 12:12 PM 5/11/2017, Richard C Evans wrote:
>>> Interesting. Was going to ask how the  repros were printed since originals 
>>> stone/hand drawn litho.
>>> 
>>> Can't seem to find an image or any original online, seems unusually rare.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 11 May 2017, at 18:42, Info Movie Poster Art Gallery 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
 
 The repros were around persistently (and being auctioned) still in the 
 late 90s. Apart from anything else, they just looked far too new. Rather 
 alarming that they were proper lithos. True or not, there were stories 
 about the original plates being rediscovered enabling them to be printed.
 
 I personally only ever saw one genuine vintage original, and it was like 
 night and day, with the typical aging (as others have referred to) of 
 French paper from that time, especially along the folds. However, you do 
 occasionally come across even French white paper from that period that 
 hasnâ•˙t aged that much - very recently saw a French Grande Le Conformiste 
 where this was the case, although that did have some ink transfer marks 
 from the black where it had been folded.
 
 Tim
>>> 
>> I thought the repros were not litho printed? 
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Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p

[Info Movie Poster Art Gallery]

Ah, that¹s very interesting about the paper stock change. I recognise what
you mean, now you point that out: early 70s paper characteristics really
have no bearing on this then (I was too loose saying Œfrom that period¹).

Thanks Helmut.

On 12/05/2017 13:13, "Helmut Hamm"  wrote:

> Tim,
> 
> LE CONFORMISTE was released 10 years later, and many printers had changed to a
> different paper stock by then. I frequently sell french posters for UN FLIC
> from 1972, and there are dead mint originals out there, that do not show any
> sign of browning.
> 
> As you pointed out correctly, 1960 is different.
> 
> Helmut
> 
> 
>> Am 11.05.2017 um 19:42 schrieb Info Movie Poster Art Gallery
>> :
>> 
>> Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p
>> 
>> The repros were around persistently (and being auctioned) still in the late
>> 90s. Apart from anything else, they just looked far too new. Rather alarming
>> that they were proper lithos. True or not, there were stories about the
>> original plates being rediscovered enabling them to be printed.
>> 
>> I personally only ever saw one genuine vintage original, and it was like
>> night and day, with the typical aging (as others have referred to) of French
>> paper from that time, especially along the folds. However, you do
>> occasionally come across even French white paper from that period that hasn¹t
>> aged that much - very recently saw a French Grande Le Conformiste where this
>> was the case, although that did have some ink transfer marks from the black
>> where it had been folded.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/05/2017 11:34, "Helmut Hamm" >  > wrote:
>> 
>>> There was a discussion on this poster over here:
>>> 
>>> http://vintagemoviepostersforum.com/discussion/1692/selling-large-original-l
>>> olita-poster-framed-in-french
>>> 
>>> The early 1960s French originals were usually printed on more or less acidic
>>> paper, so there should be at least some darkening at the folds. Personally,
>>> I would much rather stay away from this one.
>>> 
>>> Helmut
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 10.05.2017 um 01:28 schrieb David Lieberman >>>  >:
 
 
 That is what I always thought, that if it has credits then it's not a
 repro. I just examined ours again and I really can't tell. I've seen plenty
 of paper from the 60's that look and feel like this one. It only has
 minimal restoration with a small tear and fold lines/cross folds touched
 up. Looks exactly like the ones Heritage sold. I've been told that the fold
 lines should have darkened with age if its original, these have not.
 
 
 Dave
 
 On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:25 PM, David >>>  > wrote:
> 
> Didn't the 80s repro come with no credits?
> 
> 
>  
>  
>  
> filip de volder wrote on 9/05/2017 9:00 PM:
>  
>  
>>
>> 
>>  
>>  Well ,  if someone wants to pass a rolled reprint for an original then
>> he can fold the poster and have it linenbacked ...
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> the paper and ink  used back then  is quite typical so you should be able
>> to determine whether its original or an 80s reprint whether it's
>> linenbacked or not .
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> filip
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> From: MoPo List >  >
>>   on behalf of David Lieberman
>>  >
>> 
>>  Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 10:53 PM
>>  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> 
>>  Subject: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  We have this poster:
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/52017/sh1.jpg
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Originally folded, now linen backed. Looks exactly like the ones Heritage
>> has sold.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Someone emailed us and said it looks like the 1980's reprint. I've seen
>> rolled reprints but never a folded linen backed one.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Dave
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  -- 
>>  
>>  
>>   www.cinemasterpieces.com/
>>  >
>>  
>>
>>  www.cinemasterpieces.com/
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Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p

[Helmut Hamm]

Tim,

LE CONFORMISTE was released 10 years later, and many printers had changed to a 
different paper stock by then. I frequently sell french posters for UN FLIC 
from 1972, and there are dead mint originals out there, that do not show any 
sign of browning.

As you pointed out correctly, 1960 is different.

Helmut


> Am 11.05.2017 um 19:42 schrieb Info Movie Poster Art Gallery 
> :
> 
> 
> The repros were around persistently (and being auctioned) still in the late 
> 90s. Apart from anything else, they just looked far too new. Rather alarming 
> that they were proper lithos. True or not, there were stories about the 
> original plates being rediscovered enabling them to be printed.
> 
> I personally only ever saw one genuine vintage original, and it was like 
> night and day, with the typical aging (as others have referred to) of French 
> paper from that time, especially along the folds. However, you do 
> occasionally come across even French white paper from that period that hasn’t 
> aged that much - very recently saw a French Grande Le Conformiste where this 
> was the case, although that did have some ink transfer marks from the black 
> where it had been folded.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> On 10/05/2017 11:34, "Helmut Hamm"  > wrote:
> 
>> There was a discussion on this poster over here:
>> 
>> http://vintagemoviepostersforum.com/discussion/1692/selling-large-original-lolita-poster-framed-in-french
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> The early 1960s French originals were usually printed on more or less acidic 
>> paper, so there should be at least some darkening at the folds. Personally, 
>> I would much rather stay away from this one.
>> 
>> Helmut
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 10.05.2017 um 01:28 schrieb David Lieberman >> >:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That is what I always thought, that if it has credits then it's not a 
>>> repro. I just examined ours again and I really can't tell. I've seen plenty 
>>> of paper from the 60's that look and feel like this one. It only has 
>>> minimal restoration with a small tear and fold lines/cross folds touched 
>>> up. Looks exactly like the ones Heritage sold. I've been told that the fold 
>>> lines should have darkened with age if its original, these have not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:25 PM, David >> > wrote:

 Didn't the 80s repro come with no credits?
 
 
  
  
  
 filip de volder wrote on 9/05/2017 9:00 PM:
  
  
>   
> 
>  
>  Well ,  if someone wants to pass a rolled reprint for an original then 
> he can fold the poster and have it linenbacked ... 
> 
>  
>  
> the paper and ink  used back then  is quite typical so you should be able 
> to determine whether its original or an 80s reprint whether it's 
> linenbacked or not .
>  
> 
>  
>  
> filip
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
> From: MoPo List  > 
>  >  on behalf of David Lieberman 
> > 
> > 
>  Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 10:53 PM
>  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>  Subject: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  
> 
> We have this poster:
> 
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/52017/sh1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Originally folded, now linen backed. Looks exactly like the ones Heritage 
> has sold.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Someone emailed us and said it looks like the 1980's reprint. I've seen 
> rolled reprints but never a folded linen backed one.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
>  -- 
>  
>  
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>  
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Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p

[Dominique BESSON]

Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1pGreetings from France,

Definitely 99.9% of those large 47x63in “Lolita” are repros printed in the 80’s 
with the original plates, and printed in litho, it is why they are so great 
quality.

I came across an original folded copy a couple months ago.

Here are the links to check this original copy before and after linenbacking :

Folded : http://dominiquebesson.com/lolita-originale-pliee.jpg
Linen : http://dominiquebesson.com/lolita-originale-linen.jpg

Hope this could help you

Sincerely

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From: Info Movie Poster Art Gallery 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 12:40 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p

“I thought the repros were not litho printed? “

I’m sure they were, hence all the problems, finding their way into Christies 
etc..


On 11/05/2017 20:57, "MPB Warehouse"  wrote:


  At 12:12 PM 5/11/2017, Richard C Evans wrote:

Interesting. Was going to ask how the  repros were printed since originals 
stone/hand drawn litho.

Can't seem to find an image or any original online, seems unusually rare.

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 May 2017, at 18:42, Info Movie Poster Art Gallery 
 wrote:



  The repros were around persistently (and being auctioned) still in the 
late 90s. Apart from anything else, they just looked far too new. Rather 
alarming that they were proper lithos. True or not, there were stories about 
the original plates being rediscovered enabling them to be printed.

  I personally only ever saw one genuine vintage original, and it was like 
night and day, with the typical aging (as others have referred to) of French 
paper from that time, especially along the folds. However, you do occasionally 
come across even French white paper from that period that hasnâ•˙t aged that 
much - very recently saw a French Grande Le Conformiste where this was the 
case, although that did have some ink transfer marks from the black where it 
had been folded.

  Tim



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Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p

[Info Movie Poster Art Gallery]

³I thought the repros were not litho printed? ³

I¹m sure they were, hence all the problems, finding their way into Christies
etc..


On 11/05/2017 20:57, "MPB Warehouse"  wrote:

> At 12:12 PM 5/11/2017, Richard C Evans wrote:
>> Interesting. Was going to ask how the  repros were printed since originals
>> stone/hand drawn litho.
>> 
>> Can't seem to find an image or any original online, seems unusually rare.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 11 May 2017, at 18:42, Info Movie Poster Art Gallery 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> The repros were around persistently (and being auctioned) still in the late
>>> 90s. Apart from anything else, they just looked far too new. Rather alarming
>>> that they were proper lithos. True or not, there were stories about the
>>> original plates being rediscovered enabling them to be printed.
>>> 
>>> I personally only ever saw one genuine vintage original, and it was like
>>> night and day, with the typical aging (as others have referred to) of French
>>> paper from that time, especially along the folds. However, you do
>>> occasionally come across even French white paper from that period that
>>> hasn’t aged that much - very recently saw a French Grande Le Conformiste
>>> where this was the case, although that did have some ink transfer marks from
>>> the black where it had been folded.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>> 
> I thought the repros were not litho printed?
> 
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Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p

[Info Movie Poster Art Gallery]

I got the impression too that originals were unusually scarce. I seem to
remember the definitely original one belonged to Jose Carpio, but I couldn¹t
swear to it now.

On 11/05/2017 20:12, "Richard C Evans"  wrote:

> Interesting. Was going to ask how the  repros were printed since originals
> stone/hand drawn litho.
> 
> Can't seem to find an image or any original online, seems unusually rare.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 11 May 2017, at 18:42, Info Movie Poster Art Gallery 
> wrote:
> 
>> Re: [MOPO] Help please with LOLITA French 1p
>> The repros were around persistently (and being auctioned) still in the late
>> 90s. Apart from anything else, they just looked far too new. Rather alarming
>> that they were proper lithos. True or not, there were stories about the
>> original plates being rediscovered enabling them to be printed.
>> 
>> I personally only ever saw one genuine vintage original, and it was like
>> night and day, with the typical aging (as others have referred to) of French
>> paper from that time, especially along the folds. However, you do
>> occasionally come across even French white paper from that period that hasn¹t
>> aged that much - very recently saw a French Grande Le Conformiste where this
>> was the case, although that did have some ink transfer marks from the black
>> where it had been folded.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/05/2017 11:34, "Helmut Hamm"  wrote:
>> 
>>> There was a discussion on this poster over here:
>>> 
>>> http://vintagemoviepostersforum.com/discussion/1692/selling-large-original-l
>>> olita-poster-framed-in-french
>>> 
>>> The early 1960s French originals were usually printed on more or less acidic
>>> paper, so there should be at least some darkening at the folds. Personally,
>>> I would much rather stay away from this one.
>>> 
>>> Helmut
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 10.05.2017 um 01:28 schrieb David Lieberman
 :
 
 
 That is what I always thought, that if it has credits then it's not a
 repro. I just examined ours again and I really can't tell. I've seen plenty
 of paper from the 60's that look and feel like this one. It only has
 minimal restoration with a small tear and fold lines/cross folds touched
 up. Looks exactly like the ones Heritage sold. I've been told that the fold
 lines should have darkened with age if its original, these have not.
 
 
 Dave
 
 On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:25 PM, David  wrote:
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> Didn't the 80s repro come with no credits?
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> filip de volder wrote on 9/05/2017 9:00 PM:
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>> to determine whether its original or an 80s reprint whether it's
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