Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Alan Adler]

Great stories, Tom, as always.

Everything of any value I ever had I took out of the trash. 

I saved the stuff because I loved it.

When mint Psycho inserts started going for 20 bucks it made me smile.

Posters were my mana from heaven.

They fell from above, fed me, clothed me, cared for me.

They’ve been my life and saved my life since the beginning.

Alan

> On Apr 18, 2022, at 8:25 PM, Tom Martin 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am not hip to the term slabbedplease explain someone
> 
> however when started in 1977 I basically saved almost anything related to 
> movies from pre cine on up//not because I thought would increase in value I 
> just thought it was cool and worthsaviongtoshare with future kids and 
> people that loved cinema.
> sure also like to support it with a good sale so I could buy more but many 
> things were by fluke just being at therightplaceandid like think had some 
> vision a few of my find...Oozitt dolls they spewed slime...andi sold them in 
> fangorgia and starlet magazines...for I think 10,00 one was on that show in 
> Vegas pawnshop sales with Rick they paid 350.00 for one I paid 20cents 
> each from a guy inwashinton state that was a closeout guy but they froze in 
> the winter so it was a hard item to store..I also bought thousand of Gumby 
> costumes cases of the 1965 sealed costumes before I evened the doll but they 
> rereleased the Gumbyby Medco the Croce co and so I bout the costumes at 
> 20cents cases 1000s and sold them wholesale to dealers one dealer traded B9 
> lofstinspace robots withe me was we hasd a network of small dealers then pre 
> eBaywe just traded back in 80s..
> I also got tin uncle milky cars,,Beatle wigs billgrahm concert posters all 
> kinds of stuff..1965 gilbertsealed James Bond figures...from mr big in 
> Baltimorebladerunner die cast cares,,all like under 1,00 I sold lots of 
> stuff
> the best item was whammy superstuffi gave free until a guy said he got 80 on 
> eBay for one I had cases...I solid my store 50cents..why was in so cool// it 
> was used br Romero in night of the living dead as slime for guts it was pink 
> powder ands from 1968 !!wheni started therwas warhorses of stuff unsold 
> stuffs there was no eBay or network to sell stuffbut thereby the early 
> 90s it iteexploded..with everyone one eBay who had stuff like posters and 
> bookstand anything and everything ..the. tickets I found from old driven was 
> a great find and give few free still with orders,,,I svaelotsof drive in 
> memorabilia...books,old movie mags ,projectors ,films and stuff still find I 
> forgot I saved eveninsmall quanta it was fun and making people happy was 
> fungreat memories
> I was looking roll of Star Trek contact posters for the lasvegas special show 
> double sided smaller posters but cool..
> if I get back on my foot I will start offering this stuff offend hope some 
> wise investors buy my old stuff and make my day...I have cameras liked 
> folding ,German, kodaks movie..ol flashguns they used to make light sabers 
> install wars...some is just good for parts or props
> but its real and ohs tapes I saved some and dvd..I have 
> bladrunnerunopened,,,and back to the future, Johnny Carson,,Hitchcockand 
> others,,its a pop culture treasure trove
> Tom Hollywood dream factory®
> since 1977 419-47403065
> .Hollywooddreamfactory.com
> 
> 
> On 2022-04-18 20:31, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
>> A slabbed VHS tape. Now that really is funny. Now what would be the
>> ultimate VHS tape? Maybe the boxed set of PEEWEE'S PLAYHOUSE?
>> Kirby
>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Grey Smith 
>>> wrote:
>>> I don’t think anyone is suggesting the hobby is dead.
>>> I suggest the Heritage auction this weekend will do millions.
>>> Rich’s point was merely a moment in time comparison to the huge
>>> explosion of other hobbies.
>>> I am frankly excited for the future!
>>> If prices lag, I will buy. If they grow I will smile.
>>> Indeed it is a wonderful hobby!
>>> G.
>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 7:00 PM Susan Heim 
>>> wrote:
>>> Boy if you were watching Bruce's auction yesterday, there are
>>> definitely certain titles that don't seem to be slowing down in
>>> value growth. I sold my Pinocchio one sheet
>>> a few years back for $6500, a good price at the time. Yesterday, it
>>> went for close to $11,000 and those Marx Brothers cards went for a
>>> bundle. I was amazed at
>>> some of the prices Bruce's auction realized..a very good job
>>> with a good variety of material. I had many customers who called me
>>> this morning to order
>>> frames for what they had purchased.
>>> I do an enormous amount of framing for the hobby and I have new
>>> collectors coming into the hobby every week. A lot of them are young
>>> guys who
>>> begin by collecting material from the 1970's and 1980's and pretty
>>> soon start collecting material from the 1940's, 50's and
>>> 60's.and they have a lot of
>>> disposable income.
>>> So, I think the poster hobby 

Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Tom Martin]

I am not hip to the term slabbedplease explain someone

however when started in 1977 I basically saved almost anything related 
to movies from pre cine on up//not because I thought would increase in 
value I just thought it was cool and worthsaviongtoshare with future 
kids and people that loved cinema.
sure also like to support it with a good sale so I could buy more but 
many things were by fluke just being at therightplaceandid like think 
had some vision a few of my find...Oozitt dolls they spewed slime...andi 
sold them in fangorgia and starlet magazines...for I think 10,00 one was 
on that show in Vegas pawnshop sales with Rick they paid 350.00 for 
one I paid 20cents each from a guy inwashinton state that was a 
closeout guy but they froze in the winter so it was a hard item to 
store..I also bought thousand of Gumby costumes cases of the 1965 sealed 
costumes before I evened the doll but they rereleased the Gumbyby Medco 
the Croce co and so I bout the costumes at 20cents cases 1000s and sold 
them wholesale to dealers one dealer traded B9 lofstinspace robots withe 
me was we hasd a network of small dealers then pre eBaywe just 
traded back in 80s..
I also got tin uncle milky cars,,Beatle wigs billgrahm concert posters 
all kinds of stuff..1965 gilbertsealed James Bond figures...from mr big 
in Baltimorebladerunner die cast cares,,all like under 1,00 I sold 
lots of stuff
the best item was whammy superstuffi gave free until a guy said he got 
80 on eBay for one I had cases...I solid my store 50cents..why was in so 
cool// it was used br Romero in night of the living dead as slime for 
guts it was pink powder ands from 1968 !!wheni started therwas warhorses 
of stuff unsold stuffs there was no eBay or network to sell stuffbut 
thereby the early 90s it iteexploded..with everyone one eBay who had 
stuff like posters and bookstand anything and everything ..the. tickets 
I found from old driven was a great find and give few free still with 
orders,,,I svaelotsof drive in memorabilia...books,old movie mags 
,projectors ,films and stuff still find I forgot I saved eveninsmall 
quanta it was fun and making people happy was fungreat memories
I was looking roll of Star Trek contact posters for the lasvegas special 
show double sided smaller posters but cool..
if I get back on my foot I will start offering this stuff offend hope 
some wise investors buy my old stuff and make my day...I have cameras 
liked folding ,German, kodaks movie..ol flashguns they used to make 
light sabers install wars...some is just good for parts or props
but its real and ohs tapes I saved some and dvd..I have 
bladrunnerunopened,,,and back to the future, Johnny 
Carson,,Hitchcockand others,,its a pop culture treasure trove

Tom Hollywood dream factory®
since 1977 419-47403065
.Hollywooddreamfactory.com


On 2022-04-18 20:31, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

A slabbed VHS tape. Now that really is funny. Now what would be the
ultimate VHS tape? Maybe the boxed set of PEEWEE'S PLAYHOUSE?

Kirby


On Apr 18, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Grey Smith 
wrote:

I don’t think anyone is suggesting the hobby is dead.
I suggest the Heritage auction this weekend will do millions.
Rich’s point was merely a moment in time comparison to the huge
explosion of other hobbies.
I am frankly excited for the future!
If prices lag, I will buy. If they grow I will smile.
Indeed it is a wonderful hobby!
G.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 7:00 PM Susan Heim 
wrote:

Boy if you were watching Bruce's auction yesterday, there are
definitely certain titles that don't seem to be slowing down in
value growth. I sold my Pinocchio one sheet
a few years back for $6500, a good price at the time. Yesterday, it
went for close to $11,000 and those Marx Brothers cards went for a
bundle. I was amazed at
some of the prices Bruce's auction realized..a very good job
with a good variety of material. I had many customers who called me
this morning to order
frames for what they had purchased.

I do an enormous amount of framing for the hobby and I have new
collectors coming into the hobby every week. A lot of them are young
guys who
begin by collecting material from the 1970's and 1980's and pretty
soon start collecting material from the 1940's, 50's and
60's.and they have a lot of
disposable income.

So, I think the poster hobby is still pretty strong. The example of
the Forbidden Planet one sheet going for $8700+ yesterday is not
unusual as that poster
fluctuates around all the time. Remember, one sold at Heritage just
a few months ago in November for $15,000. I sold my own copy for
$12,000 last year.

So, while we may be losing collectors in our hobby due to age or
switching to other collectables, we've got a lot of new collectors
coming into the hobby
with a lot of money to spend and big theater rooms to display
everything.

Sue
Hollywood Poster Frames

-

FROM: MoPo List  on behalf of Michael
Danese 

Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Roland Lataille]

 Seeing high prices on eBay for VHS tapes - 
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=vhs+tapes&_sacat=309_Sold=1_Complete=1&_sop=16


On Monday, April 18, 2022, 08:31:50 PM EDT, Kirby McDaniel 
 wrote:  
 
 A slabbed VHS tape.  Now that really is funny.  Now what would be the ultimate 
VHS tape?  Maybe the boxed set of PEEWEE'S PLAYHOUSE?
Kirby


On Apr 18, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Grey Smith  wrote:
I don’t think anyone is suggesting the hobby is dead.I suggest the Heritage 
auction this weekend will do millions.Rich’s point was merely a moment in time 
comparison to the huge explosion of other hobbies.I am frankly excited for the 
future!If prices lag, I will buy. If they grow I will smile.Indeed it is a 
wonderful hobby!G.
On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 7:00 PM Susan Heim  wrote:

Boy if you were watching Bruce's auction yesterday, there are definitely 
certain titles that don't seem to be slowing down in value growth.  I sold my 
Pinocchio one sheeta few years back for $6500, a good price at the time.  
Yesterday, it went for close to $11,000 and those Marx Brothers cards went for 
a bundle. I was amazed atsome of the prices Bruce's auction realized..a 
very good job with a good variety of material.  I had many customers who called 
me this morning to orderframes for what they had purchased.
I do an enormous amount of framing for the hobby and I have new collectors 
coming into the hobby every week.  A lot of them are young guys who begin by 
collecting material from the 1970's and 1980's and pretty soon start collecting 
material from the 1940's, 50's and 60's.and they have a lot ofdisposable 
income. 
So, I think the poster hobby is still pretty strong.  The example of the 
Forbidden Planet one sheet going for $8700+ yesterday is not unusual as that 
posterfluctuates around all the time.  Remember, one sold at Heritage just a 
few months ago in November for $15,000.  I sold my own copy for $12,000 last 
year.
So, while we may be losing collectors in our hobby due to age or switching to 
other collectables, we've got a lot of new collectors coming into the hobbywith 
a lot of money to spend and big theater rooms to display everything.
SueHollywood Poster FramesFrom: MoPo List  on 
behalf of Michael Danese <013d65768e00-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 9:42 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Interesting. All sad but true. I liquidated a large part of 
my collection a few years ago with Grey’s help. I’m happy with what I kept, but 
miss a lot of what I sold. All for the best. The folks that love posters will 
continue to love them, but the reality is that the number of those folks is 
shrinking. Yes, buy what you love and you won’t be disappointed. 

Thanks,MIchael Danese

On Apr 18, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Grey Smith  wrote:





All well said and sadly, many very obvious points, Rich. I think Heritage will 
either keep the auction I built and succeeded with as much as any house out 
there, or they will combine it with the Entertainment memorabilia venue and cut 
back the quantity sold. Many of the other collectibles have dramatically risen 
in value due to third-party slabbing and grading, as you mention, which has led 
to tremendous competition. Competition to complete runs in VF condition as with 
what has happened in coins, ball cards, and especially comics. And I suggest 
the staggering prices in comic art are an off-shoot of the comic book 
explosion. Yet, when an attempt was made to slab lobbies, MWC, which look 
fabulous, it was generally pooh-poohed by the hobby.I fear that posters may 
never explode as they are and never have been a revered part of one's childhood 
like so many other collectibles are as they were made to be collected. Posters 
were not. One just has to love having them and owning them, regardless of the 
investment value. Why I always say, buy what you love; then if you sell for a 
loss, you have had the pride of owning it. I have always worked to get the 
posters seen, as by seeing them, especially in person, one can see the 
magnificent beauty of the artwork. This hobby seems to be the best-kept secret 
of all collectibles!And finally, if you are looking for a fabulous selection of 
posters, maybe one of the best in years, go towww.HA.com/7272.This weekend, 
Saturday and Sunday!It will blow your mind! Grey
On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:27 PM Richard Halegua  wrote:


It's no surprise to me that Heritage wants to 'up the ante'

Heritage Signature auctions are a showcase, and it is the lowest performing 
segment of their categories and there is a good reason for it..

the movie poster hobby.. is broken

let's take a look at other hobbies,like comic book and art.
This field has exploded. The increases in values over the past 20 years is 
amazing, and the last 2 years has been totally off the charts.
fantastic Four #1 sold for $1.5M
Captain America #1 sold for $3.1M
the page of art by Mike Zeck that introduces Spidey's 

Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Kirby McDaniel]

A slabbed VHS tape.  Now that really is funny.  Now what would be the ultimate 
VHS tape?  Maybe the boxed set of PEEWEE'S PLAYHOUSE?

Kirby

> On Apr 18, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Grey Smith  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think anyone is suggesting the hobby is dead.
> I suggest the Heritage auction this weekend will do millions.
> Rich’s point was merely a moment in time comparison to the huge explosion of 
> other hobbies.
> I am frankly excited for the future!
> If prices lag, I will buy. If they grow I will smile.
> Indeed it is a wonderful hobby!
> G.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 7:00 PM Susan Heim  > wrote:
> Boy if you were watching Bruce's auction yesterday, there are definitely 
> certain titles that don't seem to be slowing down in value growth.  I sold my 
> Pinocchio one sheet
> a few years back for $6500, a good price at the time.  Yesterday, it went for 
> close to $11,000 and those Marx Brothers cards went for a bundle. I was 
> amazed at
> some of the prices Bruce's auction realized..a very good job with a good 
> variety of material.  I had many customers who called me this morning to order
> frames for what they had purchased.
> 
> I do an enormous amount of framing for the hobby and I have new collectors 
> coming into the hobby every week.  A lot of them are young guys who 
> begin by collecting material from the 1970's and 1980's and pretty soon start 
> collecting material from the 1940's, 50's and 60's.and they have a lot of
> disposable income. 
> 
> So, I think the poster hobby is still pretty strong.  The example of the 
> Forbidden Planet one sheet going for $8700+ yesterday is not unusual as that 
> poster
> fluctuates around all the time.  Remember, one sold at Heritage just a few 
> months ago in November for $15,000.  I sold my own copy for $12,000 last year.
> 
> So, while we may be losing collectors in our hobby due to age or switching to 
> other collectables, we've got a lot of new collectors coming into the hobby
> with a lot of money to spend and big theater rooms to display everything.
> 
> Sue
> Hollywood Poster Frames
> From: MoPo List  > on behalf of Michael Danese 
> <013d65768e00-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu 
> >
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 9:42 PM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU  
> mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>>
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Interesting.
>  
> All sad but true. I liquidated a large part of my collection a few years ago 
> with Grey’s help. I’m happy with what I kept, but miss a lot of what I sold. 
> All for the best. 
> The folks that love posters will continue to love them, but the reality is 
> that the number of those folks is shrinking. 
> Yes, buy what you love and you won’t be disappointed. 
> 
> Thanks,
> MIchael Danese
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Grey Smith > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> All well said and sadly, many very obvious points, Rich. I think Heritage 
>> will either keep the auction I built and succeeded with as much as any house 
>> out there, or they will combine it with the Entertainment memorabilia venue 
>> and cut back the quantity sold. 
>> Many of the other collectibles have dramatically risen in value due to 
>> third-party slabbing and grading, as you mention, which has led to 
>> tremendous competition. Competition to complete runs in VF condition as with 
>> what has happened in coins, ball cards, and especially comics. And I suggest 
>> the staggering prices in comic art are an off-shoot of the comic book 
>> explosion. 
>> Yet, when an attempt was made to slab lobbies, MWC, which look fabulous, it 
>> was generally pooh-poohed by the hobby.
>> I fear that posters may never explode as they are and never have been a 
>> revered part of one's childhood like so many other collectibles are as they 
>> were made to be collected. Posters were not. One just has to love having 
>> them and owning them, regardless of the investment value. Why I always say, 
>> buy what you love; then if you sell for a loss, you have had the pride of 
>> owning it. 
>> I have always worked to get the posters seen, as by seeing them, especially 
>> in person, one can see the magnificent beauty of the artwork. 
>> This hobby seems to be the best-kept secret of all collectibles!
>> And finally, if you are looking for a fabulous selection of posters, maybe 
>> one of the best in years, go to www.HA.com/7272 .
>> This weekend, Saturday and Sunday!
>> It will blow your mind! 
>> Grey
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:27 PM Richard Halegua > > wrote:
>> It's no surprise to me that Heritage wants to 'up the ante'
>> 
>> Heritage Signature auctions are a showcase, and it is the lowest performing 
>> segment of their categories and there is a good reason for it..
>> 
>> the movie poster hobby.. 

Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Grey Smith]

I don’t think anyone is suggesting the hobby is dead.
I suggest the Heritage auction this weekend will do millions.
Rich’s point was merely a moment in time comparison to the huge explosion
of other hobbies.
I am frankly excited for the future!
If prices lag, I will buy. If they grow I will smile.
Indeed it is a wonderful hobby!
G.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 7:00 PM Susan Heim  wrote:

> Boy if you were watching Bruce's auction yesterday, there are definitely
> certain titles that don't seem to be slowing down in value growth.  I sold
> my Pinocchio one sheet
> a few years back for $6500, a good price at the time.  Yesterday, it went
> for close to $11,000 and those Marx Brothers cards went for a bundle. I was
> amazed at
> some of the prices Bruce's auction realized..a very good job with a
> good variety of material.  I had many customers who called me this morning
> to order
> frames for what they had purchased.
>
> I do an enormous amount of framing for the hobby and I have new
> collectors coming into the hobby every week.  A lot of them are young guys
> who
> begin by collecting material from the 1970's and 1980's and pretty soon
> start collecting material from the 1940's, 50's and 60's.and they have
> a lot of
> disposable income.
>
> So, I think the poster hobby is still pretty strong.  The example of the
> Forbidden Planet one sheet going for $8700+ yesterday is not unusual as
> that poster
> fluctuates around all the time.  Remember, one sold at Heritage just a few
> months ago in November for $15,000.  I sold my own copy for $12,000 last
> year.
>
> So, while we may be losing collectors in our hobby due to age or switching
> to other collectables, we've got a lot of new collectors coming into the
> hobby
> with a lot of money to spend and big theater rooms to display everything.
>
> Sue
> Hollywood Poster Frames
> --
> *From:* MoPo List  on behalf of Michael
> Danese <013d65768e00-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2022 9:42 PM
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Interesting.
>
> All sad but true. I liquidated a large part of my collection a few years
> ago with Grey’s help. I’m happy with what I kept, but miss a lot of what I
> sold. All for the best.
> The folks that love posters will continue to love them, but the reality is
> that the number of those folks is shrinking.
> Yes, buy what you love and you won’t be disappointed.
>
> Thanks,
> MIchael Danese
>
> On Apr 18, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Grey Smith  wrote:
>
> 
>
> All well said and sadly, many very obvious points, Rich. I think Heritage
> will either keep the auction I built and succeeded with as much as any
> house out there, or they will combine it with the Entertainment memorabilia
> venue and cut back the quantity sold.
> Many of the other collectibles have dramatically risen in value due to
> third-party slabbing and grading, as you mention, which has led to
> tremendous competition. Competition to complete runs in VF condition as
> with what has happened in coins, ball cards, and especially comics. And I
> suggest the staggering prices in comic art are an off-shoot of the comic
> book explosion.
> Yet, when an attempt was made to slab lobbies, MWC, which look fabulous,
> it was generally pooh-poohed by the hobby.
> I fear that posters may never explode as they are and never have been a
> revered part of one's childhood like so many other collectibles are as they
> were made to be collected. Posters were not. One just has to love having
> them and owning them, regardless of the investment value. Why I always say,
> buy what you love; then if you sell for a loss, you have had the pride of
> owning it.
> I have always worked to get the posters seen, as by seeing them,
> especially in person, one can see the magnificent beauty of the artwork.
> This hobby seems to be the best-kept secret of all collectibles!
> And finally, if you are looking for a fabulous selection of posters, maybe
> one of the best in years, go to www.HA.com/7272.
> This weekend, Saturday and Sunday!
> It will blow your mind!
> Grey
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:27 PM Richard Halegua 
> wrote:
>
> It's no surprise to me that Heritage wants to 'up the ante'
>
> Heritage Signature auctions are a showcase, and it is the lowest
> performing segment of their categories and there is a good reason for
> it..
>
> the movie poster hobby.. is broken
>
> let's take a look at other hobbies,like comic book and art.
> This field has exploded. The increases in values over the past 20 years is
> amazing, and the last 2 years has been totally off the charts.
> fantastic Four #1 sold for $1.5M
> Captain America #1 sold for $3.1M
> the page of art by Mike Zeck that introduces Spidey's symbiotic costume
> sod for a whopping $3.36M
> and only a couple weeks ago, the Mile High copy of Superman #1 sold for
> $5.3M
>
> please, tell me what movie posters are an analog for such activity? I'll
> 

Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Susan Heim]

Boy if you were watching Bruce's auction yesterday, there are definitely 
certain titles that don't seem to be slowing down in value growth.  I sold my 
Pinocchio one sheet
a few years back for $6500, a good price at the time.  Yesterday, it went for 
close to $11,000 and those Marx Brothers cards went for a bundle. I was amazed 
at
some of the prices Bruce's auction realized..a very good job with a good 
variety of material.  I had many customers who called me this morning to order
frames for what they had purchased.

I do an enormous amount of framing for the hobby and I have new collectors 
coming into the hobby every week.  A lot of them are young guys who
begin by collecting material from the 1970's and 1980's and pretty soon start 
collecting material from the 1940's, 50's and 60's.and they have a lot of
disposable income.

So, I think the poster hobby is still pretty strong.  The example of the 
Forbidden Planet one sheet going for $8700+ yesterday is not unusual as that 
poster
fluctuates around all the time.  Remember, one sold at Heritage just a few 
months ago in November for $15,000.  I sold my own copy for $12,000 last year.

So, while we may be losing collectors in our hobby due to age or switching to 
other collectables, we've got a lot of new collectors coming into the hobby
with a lot of money to spend and big theater rooms to display everything.

Sue
Hollywood Poster Frames

From: MoPo List  on behalf of Michael Danese 
<013d65768e00-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 9:42 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

All sad but true. I liquidated a large part of my collection a few years ago 
with Grey’s help. I’m happy with what I kept, but miss a lot of what I sold. 
All for the best.
The folks that love posters will continue to love them, but the reality is that 
the number of those folks is shrinking.
Yes, buy what you love and you won’t be disappointed.

Thanks,
MIchael Danese

On Apr 18, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Grey Smith  wrote:


All well said and sadly, many very obvious points, Rich. I think Heritage will 
either keep the auction I built and succeeded with as much as any house out 
there, or they will combine it with the Entertainment memorabilia venue and cut 
back the quantity sold.
Many of the other collectibles have dramatically risen in value due to 
third-party slabbing and grading, as you mention, which has led to tremendous 
competition. Competition to complete runs in VF condition as with what has 
happened in coins, ball cards, and especially comics. And I suggest the 
staggering prices in comic art are an off-shoot of the comic book explosion.
Yet, when an attempt was made to slab lobbies, MWC, which look fabulous, it was 
generally pooh-poohed by the hobby.
I fear that posters may never explode as they are and never have been a revered 
part of one's childhood like so many other collectibles are as they were made 
to be collected. Posters were not. One just has to love having them and owning 
them, regardless of the investment value. Why I always say, buy what you love; 
then if you sell for a loss, you have had the pride of owning it.
I have always worked to get the posters seen, as by seeing them, especially in 
person, one can see the magnificent beauty of the artwork.
This hobby seems to be the best-kept secret of all collectibles!
And finally, if you are looking for a fabulous selection of posters, maybe one 
of the best in years, go to www.HA.com/7272.
This weekend, Saturday and Sunday!
It will blow your mind!
Grey

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:27 PM Richard Halegua 
mailto:sa...@comic-art.com>> wrote:

It's no surprise to me that Heritage wants to 'up the ante'

Heritage Signature auctions are a showcase, and it is the lowest performing 
segment of their categories and there is a good reason for it..

the movie poster hobby.. is broken

let's take a look at other hobbies,like comic book and art.
This field has exploded. The increases in values over the past 20 years is 
amazing, and the last 2 years has been totally off the charts.
fantastic Four #1 sold for $1.5M
Captain America #1 sold for $3.1M
the page of art by Mike Zeck that introduces Spidey's symbiotic costume sod for 
a whopping $3.36M
and only a couple weeks ago, the Mile High copy of Superman #1 sold for $5.3M

please, tell me what movie posters are an analog for such activity? I'll 
wait.

but there's more.

Slabbed VHS tapes are out-performing movie posters
Slabbed Magic the Gathering cards are out-performing movie posters
Slabbed Pokemon cards are out-performing movie posters

where are movie posters going? With the exception of some small areas like Star 
Wars, jaws, Halloween, Scream.. Mondo posters (these are factually. art prints, 
not movie posters), poster prices are dead in the water.

In 2005, when I still had my gallery, I sold the last Forbidden Planet one 

Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Moviemem Original Movie Posters]

I don’t think the hobby is broken.

Not sure that values or price increases for high end material should be the 
sole criteria in determining how things stand. One thing that certainly affects 
values is that there is an absolute mountain of material out there with more 
large collections surfacing with great regularity.

However, I would have thought that the same is true with comics and other 
collectibles. There is a huge amount of low value material that will never 
increase in value. Dealers have massive stockpiles of comics or baseball cards 
that are near impossible to sell.

I have purchased some major collections in recent months and it is generally a 
case where 90% is very low value material. The higher end posters do seem to be 
increasing in value but the interest in genres has evolved so some titles that 
might have been considered high end 30 years ago have decreased in value simply 
because of the age of collectors.

Posters for films like Jaws, The Goonies, 70s and 80s Horror, Back to the 
Future, Star Wars, etc have increased massively in value. There has been a huge 
increase in new younger collectors whose interest is in films from the 70s 
onwards. They have little to no interest in older posters and genres like 
Westerns, etc.

Of course, postage is becoming a major issue with costs increasing and it has 
become much more difficult to sell to Europe due to the changes in customs 
regulations.

However from my point of view, the hobby is booming. Our sales have escalated 
over the last few years to the point where we don’t have the time or the need 
to advertise or try and hawk business on Social Media. I have no doubts that 
there is now more interest in movie posters than ever.

Regards

John

John Reid
Moviemem Original Movie Posters
www.moviemem.com
PO Box 92
Elanora
Qld 4221
Australia
Phone: 0414 720 369



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Halegua
Sent: 19 April, 2022 6:27 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Interesting.


It's no surprise to me that Heritage wants to 'up the ante'

Heritage Signature auctions are a showcase, and it is the lowest performing 
segment of their categories and there is a good reason for it..

the movie poster hobby.. is broken

let's take a look at other hobbies,like comic book and art.
This field has exploded. The increases in values over the past 20 years is 
amazing, and the last 2 years has been totally off the charts.
fantastic Four #1 sold for $1.5M
Captain America #1 sold for $3.1M
the page of art by Mike Zeck that introduces Spidey's symbiotic costume sod for 
a whopping $3.36M
and only a couple weeks ago, the Mile High copy of Superman #1 sold for $5.3M

please, tell me what movie posters are an analog for such activity? I'll 
wait.

but there's more.

Slabbed VHS tapes are out-performing movie posters
Slabbed Magic the Gathering cards are out-performing movie posters
Slabbed Pokemon cards are out-performing movie posters

where are movie posters going? With the exception of some small areas like Star 
Wars, jaws, Halloween, Scream.. Mondo posters (these are factually. art prints, 
not movie posters), poster prices are dead in the water.

In 2005, when I still had my gallery, I sold the last Forbidden Planet one 
sheet I had for $8500.
Sunday, a Forbidden Planet one sheet sold for $8768.00
17 years later, and it's only worth the same price?

please, tell me where an investment value is exhibited here.

Great movie posters like Day the Earth Stood Still, Wizard of Oz, Gone With the 
Wind, Ray Harryhausen titles etc etc etc.. where have they gone?
Has even one of these titles kept up with inflationary values?

NO.

Movie posters are being left in the dust.

Why?

In comics, values are measured by the highest prices achieved. So every Captain 
America #1 was repriced last week to meet what is the current appearance of 
increased values.
Every Steve Ditko page is marked up
Every Jack Kirby page is marked up and Terry & my own beloved EC art (neither 
of us has any at this point) is shooting up like bottle rockets on the Fourth 
of July

But in movie posters, prices are measured by how many posters sell under $20.
exactly how does that benefit the business end, or the investment expectation 
people have when they spend money on tangible objects?

In the comics hobby, if you have a collection you pieced together for 10 years, 
you probably are not going to lose money on it, but if you collected movie 
posters (in the general area up to certain values 5-10k), you will be lucky to 
get 30-50% of your costs when you sell your collection.

Fact, $8500 properly invested in 2005 should be worth at least $20,000 today, 
and if it isn't, that is a real loss of dollars and of your future.

Back to Heritage, another fact is that if Jim Halperin didn't like movie 
posters, they wouldn't be a separate part of their line-up anymore. They would 
be gone with the 

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HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:

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Hollywood (Paramount, 1923). Very Fine- on Linen. One Sheet (27" X 41") Style A.
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Casablanca (Warner Bros., 1942). Very Fine- on Linen. One Sheet (27" X 41").
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My Man Godfrey (Universal, 1936). Very Fine on Linen. One Sheet (27" X 41") 
Style D.
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Citizen Kane (RKO, 1941). Very Fine on Linen. One Sheet (27" X 41"). Style A.
Citizen Kane (RKO, 1941). Very Fine on Linen. One Sheet (27" X | Lot #86325 | 
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Vertigo (Paramount, 1958). Folded, Near Mint. Six Sheet (78" X 80") Saul Bass 
Artwork.
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#86091 | Heritage Auctions 
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Gilda (Columbia, 1946). Very Fine on Linen. One Sheet (27" X 41") Style B.
Gilda (Columbia, 1946). Very Fine on Linen. One Sheet (27" X 41") | Lot #86033 
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The War of the Worlds (Paramount, 1953). Very Fine- on Paper. Half Sheet (22" X 
28"). Style B.
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| Heritage 
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Notorious (RKO, 1946). Very Fine+ on Linen. Six Sheet (79.25" X 80.75").
Notorious (RKO, 1946). Very Fine+ on Linen. Six Sheet (79.25" X | Lot #86067 | 
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Swing Time (RKO, 1936). Fine+ on Linen. Three Sheet (41" X 79"). William Rose 
Artwork.
Swing Time (RKO, 1936). Fine+ on Linen. Three Sheet (41" X 79"). | Lot #86359 | 
Heritage Auctions 
(ha.com)

Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Michael Danese]

All sad but true. I liquidated a large part of my collection a few years ago 
with Grey’s help. I’m happy with what I kept, but miss a lot of what I sold. 
All for the best. 
The folks that love posters will continue to love them, but the reality is that 
the number of those folks is shrinking. 
Yes, buy what you love and you won’t be disappointed. 

Thanks,
MIchael Danese

> On Apr 18, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Grey Smith  wrote:
> 
> 
> All well said and sadly, many very obvious points, Rich. I think Heritage 
> will either keep the auction I built and succeeded with as much as any house 
> out there, or they will combine it with the Entertainment memorabilia venue 
> and cut back the quantity sold. 
> Many of the other collectibles have dramatically risen in value due to 
> third-party slabbing and grading, as you mention, which has led to tremendous 
> competition. Competition to complete runs in VF condition as with what has 
> happened in coins, ball cards, and especially comics. And I suggest the 
> staggering prices in comic art are an off-shoot of the comic book explosion. 
> Yet, when an attempt was made to slab lobbies, MWC, which look fabulous, it 
> was generally pooh-poohed by the hobby.
> I fear that posters may never explode as they are and never have been a 
> revered part of one's childhood like so many other collectibles are as they 
> were made to be collected. Posters were not. One just has to love having them 
> and owning them, regardless of the investment value. Why I always say, buy 
> what you love; then if you sell for a loss, you have had the pride of owning 
> it. 
> I have always worked to get the posters seen, as by seeing them, especially 
> in person, one can see the magnificent beauty of the artwork. 
> This hobby seems to be the best-kept secret of all collectibles!
> And finally, if you are looking for a fabulous selection of posters, maybe 
> one of the best in years, go to www.HA.com/7272.
> This weekend, Saturday and Sunday!
> It will blow your mind! 
> Grey
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:27 PM Richard Halegua  wrote:
>> It's no surprise to me that Heritage wants to 'up the ante'
>> 
>> Heritage Signature auctions are a showcase, and it is the lowest performing 
>> segment of their categories and there is a good reason for it..
>> 
>> the movie poster hobby.. is broken
>> 
>> let's take a look at other hobbies,like comic book and art.
>> This field has exploded. The increases in values over the past 20 years is 
>> amazing, and the last 2 years has been totally off the charts.
>> fantastic Four #1 sold for $1.5M
>> Captain America #1 sold for $3.1M
>> the page of art by Mike Zeck that introduces Spidey's symbiotic costume sod 
>> for a whopping $3.36M
>> and only a couple weeks ago, the Mile High copy of Superman #1 sold for $5.3M
>> 
>> please, tell me what movie posters are an analog for such activity? I'll 
>> wait.
>> 
>> but there's more.
>> 
>> Slabbed VHS tapes are out-performing movie posters
>> Slabbed Magic the Gathering cards are out-performing movie posters
>> Slabbed Pokemon cards are out-performing movie posters
>> 
>> where are movie posters going? With the exception of some small areas like 
>> Star Wars, jaws, Halloween, Scream.. Mondo posters (these are factually. art 
>> prints, not movie posters), poster prices are dead in the water.
>> 
>> In 2005, when I still had my gallery, I sold the last Forbidden Planet one 
>> sheet I had for $8500.
>> Sunday, a Forbidden Planet one sheet sold for $8768.00
>> 17 years later, and it's only worth the same price?
>> 
>> please, tell me where an investment value is exhibited here.
>> 
>> Great movie posters like Day the Earth Stood Still, Wizard of Oz, Gone With 
>> the Wind, Ray Harryhausen titles etc etc etc.. where have they gone?
>> Has even one of these titles kept up with inflationary values?
>> 
>> NO. 
>> 
>> Movie posters are being left in the dust.
>> 
>> Why?
>> 
>> In comics, values are measured by the highest prices achieved. So every 
>> Captain America #1 was repriced last week to meet what is the current 
>> appearance of increased values.
>> Every Steve Ditko page is marked up
>> Every Jack Kirby page is marked up and Terry & my own beloved EC art 
>> (neither of us has any at this point) is shooting up like bottle rockets on 
>> the Fourth of July
>> 
>> But in movie posters, prices are measured by how many posters sell under $20.
>> exactly how does that benefit the business end, or the investment 
>> expectation people have when they spend money on tangible objects?
>> 
>> In the comics hobby, if you have a collection you pieced together for 10 
>> years, you probably are not going to lose money on it, but if you collected 
>> movie posters (in the general area up to certain values 5-10k), you will be 
>> lucky to get 30-50% of your costs when you sell your collection.
>> 
>> Fact, $8500 properly invested in 2005 should be worth at least $20,000 
>> today, and if it isn't, that is a real 

Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Grey Smith]

All well said and sadly, many very obvious points, Rich. I think Heritage
will either keep the auction I built and succeeded with as much as any
house out there, or they will combine it with the Entertainment memorabilia
venue and cut back the quantity sold.
Many of the other collectibles have dramatically risen in value due to
third-party slabbing and grading, as you mention, which has led to
tremendous competition. Competition to complete runs in VF condition as
with what has happened in coins, ball cards, and especially comics. And I
suggest the staggering prices in comic art are an off-shoot of the comic
book explosion.
Yet, when an attempt was made to slab lobbies, MWC, which look fabulous, it
was generally pooh-poohed by the hobby.
I fear that posters may never explode as they are and never have been a
revered part of one's childhood like so many other collectibles are as they
were made to be collected. Posters were not. One just has to love having
them and owning them, regardless of the investment value. Why I always say,
buy what you love; then if you sell for a loss, you have had the pride of
owning it.
I have always worked to get the posters seen, as by seeing them, especially
in person, one can see the magnificent beauty of the artwork.
This hobby seems to be the best-kept secret of all collectibles!
And finally, if you are looking for a fabulous selection of posters, maybe
one of the best in years, go to www.HA.com/7272.
This weekend, Saturday and Sunday!
It will blow your mind!
Grey

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:27 PM Richard Halegua  wrote:

> It's no surprise to me that Heritage wants to 'up the ante'
>
> Heritage Signature auctions are a showcase, and it is the lowest
> performing segment of their categories and there is a good reason for
> it..
>
> the movie poster hobby.. is broken
>
> let's take a look at other hobbies,like comic book and art.
> This field has exploded. The increases in values over the past 20 years is
> amazing, and the last 2 years has been totally off the charts.
> fantastic Four #1 sold for $1.5M
> Captain America #1 sold for $3.1M
> the page of art by Mike Zeck that introduces Spidey's symbiotic costume
> sod for a whopping $3.36M
> and only a couple weeks ago, the Mile High copy of Superman #1 sold for
> $5.3M
>
> please, tell me what movie posters are an analog for such activity? I'll
> wait.
>
> but there's more.
>
> Slabbed VHS tapes are out-performing movie posters
> Slabbed Magic the Gathering cards are out-performing movie posters
> Slabbed Pokemon cards are out-performing movie posters
>
> where are movie posters going? With the exception of some small areas like
> Star Wars, jaws, Halloween, Scream.. Mondo posters (these are factually.
> art prints, not movie posters), poster prices are dead in the water.
>
> In 2005, when I still had my gallery, I sold the last Forbidden Planet one
> sheet I had for $8500.
> Sunday, a Forbidden Planet one sheet sold for $8768.00
> 17 years later, and it's only worth the same price?
>
> please, tell me where an investment value is exhibited here.
>
> Great movie posters like Day the Earth Stood Still, Wizard of Oz, Gone
> With the Wind, Ray Harryhausen titles etc etc etc.. where have they gone?
> Has even one of these titles kept up with inflationary values?
>
> NO.
>
> Movie posters are being left in the dust.
>
> Why?
>
> In comics, values are measured by the highest prices achieved. So every
> Captain America #1 was repriced last week to meet what is the current
> appearance of increased values.
> Every Steve Ditko page is marked up
> Every Jack Kirby page is marked up and Terry & my own beloved EC art
> (neither of us has any at this point) is shooting up like bottle rockets on
> the Fourth of July
>
> But in movie posters, prices are measured by how many posters sell under
> $20.
> exactly how does that benefit the business end, or the investment
> expectation people have when they spend money on tangible objects?
>
> In the comics hobby, if you have a collection you pieced together for 10
> years, you probably are not going to lose money on it, but if you collected
> movie posters (in the general area up to certain values 5-10k), you will be
> lucky to get 30-50% of your costs when you sell your collection.
>
> Fact, $8500 properly invested in 2005 should be worth at least $20,000
> today, and if it isn't, that is a real loss of dollars and of your future.
>
> Back to Heritage, another fact is that if Jim Halperin didn't like movie
> posters, they wouldn't be a separate part of their line-up anymore. They
> would be gone with the wind as a failed experiment. Grey Smith was brought
> in by Jim to create this segment and it is, sadly, the lowest performing
> area for them. Before anyone says I'm blaming Grey, no I definitely am not.
> The hobby is hamstrung by the lack of a price guide, by the lack of a
> grading system accepted and followed by *all* dealers and to be honest,
> the constant attacks on auction 

Re: [MOPO] Interesting.

[Richard Halegua]

It's no surprise to me that Heritage wants to 'up the ante'

Heritage Signature auctions are a showcase, and it is the lowest 
performing segment of their categories and there is a good reason 
for it..


the movie poster hobby.. is broken

let's take a look at other hobbies,like comic book and art.
This field has exploded. The increases in values over the past 20 years 
is amazing, and the last 2 years has been totally off the charts.

fantastic Four #1 sold for $1.5M
Captain America #1 sold for $3.1M
the page of art by Mike Zeck that introduces Spidey's symbiotic costume 
sod for a whopping $3.36M
and only a couple weeks ago, the Mile High copy of Superman #1 sold for 
$5.3M


please, tell me what movie posters are an analog for such activity? I'll 
wait.


but there's more.

Slabbed VHS tapes are out-performing movie posters
Slabbed Magic the Gathering cards are out-performing movie posters
Slabbed Pokemon cards are out-performing movie posters

where are movie posters going? With the exception of some small areas 
like Star Wars, jaws, Halloween, Scream.. Mondo posters (these are 
factually. art prints, not movie posters), poster prices are dead in the 
water.


In 2005, when I still had my gallery, I sold the last Forbidden Planet 
one sheet I had for $8500.

Sunday, a Forbidden Planet one sheet sold for $8768.00
17 years later, and it's only worth the same price?

please, tell me where an investment value is exhibited here.

Great movie posters like Day the Earth Stood Still, Wizard of Oz, Gone 
With the Wind, Ray Harryhausen titles etc etc etc.. where have they gone?

Has even one of these titles kept up with inflationary values?

NO.

Movie posters are being left in the dust.

Why?

In comics, values are measured by the highest prices achieved. So every 
Captain America #1 was repriced last week to meet what is the current 
appearance of increased values.

Every Steve Ditko page is marked up
Every Jack Kirby page is marked up and Terry & my own beloved EC art 
(neither of us has any at this point) is shooting up like bottle rockets 
on the Fourth of July


But in movie posters, prices are measured by how many posters sell under 
$20.
exactly how does that benefit the business end, or the investment 
expectation people have when they spend money on tangible objects?


In the comics hobby, if you have a collection you pieced together for 10 
years, you probably are not going to lose money on it, but if you 
collected movie posters (in the general area up to certain values 
5-10k), you will be lucky to get 30-50% of your costs when you sell your 
collection.


Fact, $8500 properly invested in 2005 should be worth at least $20,000 
today, and if it isn't, that is a real loss of dollars and of your future.


Back to Heritage, another fact is that if Jim Halperin didn't like movie 
posters, they wouldn't be a separate part of their line-up anymore. They 
would be gone with the wind as a failed experiment. Grey Smith was 
brought in by Jim to create this segment and it is, sadly, the lowest 
performing area for them. Before anyone says I'm blaming Grey, no I 
definitely am not. The hobby is hamstrung by the lack of a price guide, 
by the lack of a grading system accepted and followed by _all_ dealers 
and to be honest, the constant attacks on auction houses & dealers from 
some quarters is a major turn-off to many players.


Magic the gathering has an annual convention here in Vegas. I've been 
there. It's got free admission. It takes up about 120,000 sq feet at the 
Sands Convention Center. They get more than 40,000 people.
We have Cinevent (now the Columbus Movie Picture Show) and are lucky to 
get 300.


These comparisons are harsh and are a direct reflection of where the 
poster world stands. Heritage is trying to change that to some degree on 
the poster auctions. They feel the need for this division to increase 
annual revenues, in order to justify it's value to the corporate heads. 
As a businessman, I totally understand their perspective.


I'm not sure I have any answers on how to change the direction of this 
hobby and to be honest, the new tube surcharges levied by the USPS, UPS 
and Fedex have smacked down the value of modern rolled posters (in 
addition to fighting the "we sell 90% of our auctions under $20.. See 
how great we are"). Shipping & materials costs are brutal now. I can 
ship 10lbs of posters to L.A. via UPS for $14 (as long as it is packed 
in a triangular or square box) but a 2lb to NYC is $25-35 depending on 
which of the 3 shippers you use. Selling $100 posters you can offset 
this shipping cost (of course, it winds up in raised prices, if 
possible), but $20 are now worth $5, and no one makes a living selling 
$5 posters, not even Missouri. My tubes cost me $4.64 delivered. Try to 
add that cost into shipping & you get tagged with complaints of gouging. 
(shipping & supplies costs are never fully recouped by dealers)


The hobby is broken.. I hope Heritage can help 

[MOPO] Interesting.

[Tommy Barr]

Hi all,

I was just communicating with HA regarding the criteria for inclusion of
movie  posters in their Signature Auctions. I'm told that they are
looking for pieces which should realistically fetch a minimum of $1000, but
'that value threshold may be raised in the future as we explore other
auction formats.' Wonder what they might be?

Tommy

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