[MOPO] Lolita

[Christopher Quarles]

Wasn’t somebody on this list serve looking for a Lolita three sheet a while
back?

Chris Quarles

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Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees

[Dale Dilts]

Gonna tap out here with anyone that thinks consignment rate of HA presents full 
clarity is full of it.

I am not involved in the pissing contest of who has the biggest shlong and nets 
the most value and could really care less. I will say Bruce has full clarity 
and it is readily available and clearly visible where to see this(even though 
he tells people not to send him stuff anymore ;) ). My .02 for HA would be to 
present the same type of logical breakdown or provide a consignment calculator 
that I could even write for them in about a day for their website. It is shady 
to say the least, any moron can see the take HA is getting from their 
consignments with the double dip consignment process. 

- Original Message -
From: "Grey Smith" 
To: "MoPo-L" 
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 3:17:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees

Tom, you understand pretty well, it seems.
As to Evan’s points, I stand by vitriolic.
Evan, my point of not hidden meaning BP.
The sellers fees have been effect with Heritage for over ten years as such.
20/25%.
If an item hammers for more than $1000, 20% sellers fee.
If an item hammers for $999 or less, the rate is 25%.
Now, I know the reason I was reticent to publish those rates is, often they
can be negotiable, depending on the value the consignor offers.
I personally, rarely wavered on those rates.


On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:49 PM Thomas Rogers <
01b7f7d95f59-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu> wrote:

> My two cents. I am not a dealer, merely a buyer, so ignore this if I am
> way off base about anything.
>
> As a buyer, the fees do not bother me. The arithmetic is still the same.
> If I want to bid on a $1000 item and there are no extra fees, then I enter
> a bid of $1000. If there are BP and/or auction house fees (i.e 25%, or
> 45%), then I adjust my bid accordingly and bid $750 or whatever. Shipping
> is merely the cost I pay for buying remotely. The item cost to me is
> unchanged and my bidding budget is unaffected. If someone wants it more,
> they will outbid me regardless of any fees involved.
>
> As a seller, the math becomes more difficult. Bruce’s chart certainly
> shows one way it can go but , as Todd pointed out, auction house fees are
> often negotiable (although I suspect dealers like Todd would get
> preferential treatment, and rightfully so IMHO given the sheer quality of
> his pieces as they will attract more eyeballs to the auction as a whole).
> All else being equal, the final money-in-your-pocket results will differ
> between auction houses to be sure, based upon the fees charged and the
> number of serious bidders attracted to the auction, but the differences can
> be analyzed and quantified and don’t seem to be that large. Rich’s overall
> point that certain houses consistently achieve higher overall prices also
> mitigates the effects of these fee differences.
>
> Bottom line for sellers is that you are paying for all the promotion costs
> and for all those eyeballs. They seem to go hand in hand with higher sales
> results.
>
> Tom the admittedly Ill-informed
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2023, at 7:52 AM, Alan Heimann  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Think Grey’s comment is spot on…and if yr a veteran seller and Rich would
> be a good example , who prob has (as the examples he cited )constantly
> sought after titles..Star Wars ,Casablanca etc
> in his inventory which I would assume he obtained years ago or at a  low
> price , one can safely assume if you consign those to heritage or Bruce (
> not much experience with propstore)yr going to make out well and very well
> if the poster gets into a bidding war scenario … the sellers fees, though
> obviously not small potatoes, are acceptable..
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 11:51 PM sales comic-art.com 
> wrote:
>
>> BOOM!
>>
>> Grey, I'm not surprised at the vitriol from some, as they have been
>> trained  for vitriol in this business for 2 decades with the sellers who
>> comment or insinuate that all dealers other them themself are crooks, or
>> that their fees are too high, or that no one packages well, or no one
>> describes well, or no one grades well etc.
>>
>> this gets topped off with "60% of everything we sell goes for less than
>> that other company's BP".
>>
>> no dealer should be pissing on other dealers to try to gain a competitive
>> advantage and in any corporate arena they would be crushed with lawsuits
>> and settlements
>>
>> at the same time, "60% of everything we sell goes for less than $29" (up
>> from $15, and then $20) only cheapens the hobby in general, and it makes
>> even cheaper buyers.
>>
>> Here's what I say about Heritage:
>>
>> when I can get the prices they get, which are in general - better than
>> what can be achieved by myself, or in ANY other auction house in the USA -
>> then I will stop sending them posters to sell for me.
>>
>> There's no chance that another US auction would have gotten $12,000.00
>> for a 1949 international style Casablanca one sheet, and the proof is the
>> $106 that one 

Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees

[Grey Smith]

Tom, you understand pretty well, it seems.
As to Evan’s points, I stand by vitriolic.
Evan, my point of not hidden meaning BP.
The sellers fees have been effect with Heritage for over ten years as such.
20/25%.
If an item hammers for more than $1000, 20% sellers fee.
If an item hammers for $999 or less, the rate is 25%.
Now, I know the reason I was reticent to publish those rates is, often they
can be negotiable, depending on the value the consignor offers.
I personally, rarely wavered on those rates.


On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:49 PM Thomas Rogers <
01b7f7d95f59-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu> wrote:

> My two cents. I am not a dealer, merely a buyer, so ignore this if I am
> way off base about anything.
>
> As a buyer, the fees do not bother me. The arithmetic is still the same.
> If I want to bid on a $1000 item and there are no extra fees, then I enter
> a bid of $1000. If there are BP and/or auction house fees (i.e 25%, or
> 45%), then I adjust my bid accordingly and bid $750 or whatever. Shipping
> is merely the cost I pay for buying remotely. The item cost to me is
> unchanged and my bidding budget is unaffected. If someone wants it more,
> they will outbid me regardless of any fees involved.
>
> As a seller, the math becomes more difficult. Bruce’s chart certainly
> shows one way it can go but , as Todd pointed out, auction house fees are
> often negotiable (although I suspect dealers like Todd would get
> preferential treatment, and rightfully so IMHO given the sheer quality of
> his pieces as they will attract more eyeballs to the auction as a whole).
> All else being equal, the final money-in-your-pocket results will differ
> between auction houses to be sure, based upon the fees charged and the
> number of serious bidders attracted to the auction, but the differences can
> be analyzed and quantified and don’t seem to be that large. Rich’s overall
> point that certain houses consistently achieve higher overall prices also
> mitigates the effects of these fee differences.
>
> Bottom line for sellers is that you are paying for all the promotion costs
> and for all those eyeballs. They seem to go hand in hand with higher sales
> results.
>
> Tom the admittedly Ill-informed
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2023, at 7:52 AM, Alan Heimann  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Think Grey’s comment is spot on…and if yr a veteran seller and Rich would
> be a good example , who prob has (as the examples he cited )constantly
> sought after titles..Star Wars ,Casablanca etc
> in his inventory which I would assume he obtained years ago or at a  low
> price , one can safely assume if you consign those to heritage or Bruce (
> not much experience with propstore)yr going to make out well and very well
> if the poster gets into a bidding war scenario … the sellers fees, though
> obviously not small potatoes, are acceptable..
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 11:51 PM sales comic-art.com 
> wrote:
>
>> BOOM!
>>
>> Grey, I'm not surprised at the vitriol from some, as they have been
>> trained  for vitriol in this business for 2 decades with the sellers who
>> comment or insinuate that all dealers other them themself are crooks, or
>> that their fees are too high, or that no one packages well, or no one
>> describes well, or no one grades well etc.
>>
>> this gets topped off with "60% of everything we sell goes for less than
>> that other company's BP".
>>
>> no dealer should be pissing on other dealers to try to gain a competitive
>> advantage and in any corporate arena they would be crushed with lawsuits
>> and settlements
>>
>> at the same time, "60% of everything we sell goes for less than $29" (up
>> from $15, and then $20) only cheapens the hobby in general, and it makes
>> even cheaper buyers.
>>
>> Here's what I say about Heritage:
>>
>> when I can get the prices they get, which are in general - better than
>> what can be achieved by myself, or in ANY other auction house in the USA -
>> then I will stop sending them posters to sell for me.
>>
>> There's no chance that another US auction would have gotten $12,000.00
>> for a 1949 international style Casablanca one sheet, and the proof is the
>> $106 that one auctioneer got for the same poster 3 weeks later. Considering
>> I had it for sale for $2000, I don't care if HA took 1/3 of the result.
>>
>> HA under Grey's tenure also got me $1680 for a Pulp Fiction regular style
>> one sheet, $600 for a 1989 Batman one sheet or a variety of other
>> incredible results since I started consigning material to them.
>> Recently they even got $10,000 for a Star Wars one sheet I sent in.
>>
>> When other sellers can match these results, I think they have a box to
>> stand on and chirp. Until then, they're blowing farts in the wind
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> --
>> *From:* MoPo List  on behalf of Grey Smith
>> 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:10 PM
>> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees
>>
>> Frankly, I’m surprised at the vitriolic discussion 

Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees

[Thomas Rogers]

My two cents. I am not a dealer, merely a buyer, so ignore this if I am way off base about anything.As a buyer, the fees do not bother me. The arithmetic is still the same. If I want to bid on a $1000 item and there are no extra fees, then I enter a bid of $1000. If there are BP and/or auction house fees (i.e 25%, or 45%), then I adjust my bid accordingly and bid $750 or whatever. Shipping is merely the cost I pay for buying remotely. The item cost to me is unchanged and my bidding budget is unaffected. If someone wants it more, they will outbid me regardless of any fees involved.As a seller, the math becomes more difficult. Bruce’s chart certainly shows one way it can go but , as Todd pointed out, auction house fees are often negotiable (although I suspect dealers like Todd would get preferential treatment, and rightfully so IMHO given the sheer quality of his pieces as they will attract more eyeballs to the auction as a whole). All else being equal, the final money-in-your-pocket results will differ between auction houses to be sure, based upon the fees charged and the number of serious bidders attracted to the auction, but the differences can be analyzed and quantified and don’t seem to be that large. Rich’s overall point that certain houses consistently achieve higher overall prices also mitigates the effects of these fee differences.Bottom line for sellers is that you are paying for all the promotion costs and for all those eyeballs. They seem to go hand in hand with higher sales results.Tom the admittedly Ill-informedOn Jun 11, 2023, at 7:52 AM, Alan Heimann  wrote:Think Grey’s comment is spot on…and if yr a veteran seller and Rich would be a good example , who prob has (as the examples he cited )constantly sought after titles..Star Wars ,Casablanca etcin his inventory which I would assume he obtained years ago or at a  low price , one can safely assume if you consign those to heritage or Bruce ( not much experience with propstore)yr going to make out well and very well if the poster gets into a bidding war scenario … the sellers fees, though obviously not small potatoes, are acceptable..On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 11:51 PM sales comic-art.com  wrote:






BOOM!
Grey, I'm not surprised at the vitriol from some, as they have been trained  for vitriol in this business for 2 decades with the sellers who comment or insinuate that all dealers other them themself are crooks, or that their fees are
 too high, or that no one packages well, or no one describes well, or no one grades well etc.
this gets topped off with "60% of everything we sell goes for less than that other company's BP".


no dealer should be pissing on other dealers to try to gain a competitive advantage and in any corporate arena they would be crushed with lawsuits and settlements
at the same time, "60% of everything we sell goes for less than $29" (up from $15, and then $20) only cheapens the hobby in general, and it makes even cheaper buyers.


Here's what I say about Heritage:
when I can get the prices they get, which are in general - better than what can be achieved by myself, or in ANY other auction house in the USA - then I will stop sending them posters to sell for me.
There's no chance that another US auction would have gotten $12,000.00 for a 1949 international style Casablanca one sheet, and the proof is the $106 that one auctioneer got for the same poster 3 weeks later. Considering I had it for
 sale for $2000, I don't care if HA took 1/3 of the result.

HA under Grey's tenure also got me $1680 for a Pulp Fiction regular style one sheet, $600 for a 1989 Batman one sheet or a variety of other incredible results since I started consigning material to them.
Recently they even got $10,000 for a Star Wars one sheet I sent in.
When other sellers can match these results, I think they have a box to stand on and chirp. Until then, they're blowing farts in the wind
Rich




From: MoPo List  on behalf of Grey Smith 
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:10 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees
 




Frankly, I’m surprised at the vitriolic discussion here.
I believe Heritage has carried on very well for all the years I was there and continues with no question about their practices.
Yes, there is a seller's fee and a buyer's premium.
These aren’t hidden, nor is the buyer in any way surprised, as that is spelled out. What’s more, you will pay for shipping.
As for the consignor, one may ask why they would do that, as the fees add up so as to seem unreasonable.
In an auction, one in which there are a number of bidders and many cross-over bidders from other venues, you can get outstanding results that are far and away better than one can sell privately for.
It is absolutely the best way to sell collectibles!


I suggest a personal email to Zach, and he can answer any questions.
If not, I suggest I am very conversant 

Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees

[EVAN ZWEIFEL]

Vitriolic?  I prefer the word active!
 
What do you mean "These aren't hidden" ??
 
This entire discussion started because no one could determine what the Seller's 
percentage actually was! 

> On 06/10/2023 7:10 PM MDT Grey Smith  wrote:
>  
>  
> Frankly, I’m surprised at the vitriolic discussion here.
> I believe Heritage has carried on very well for all the years I was there and 
> continues with no question about their practices.
> Yes, there is a seller's fee and a buyer's premium.
> These aren’t hidden, nor is the buyer in any way surprised, as that is 
> spelled out. What’s more, you will pay for shipping.
> As for the consignor, one may ask why they would do that, as the fees add up 
> so as to seem unreasonable.
> In an auction, one in which there are a number of bidders and many cross-over 
> bidders from other venues, you can get outstanding results that are far and 
> away better than one can sell privately for.
> It is absolutely the best way to sell collectibles!
>  
> I suggest a personal email to Zach, and he can answer any questions.
> If not, I suggest I am very conversant with their rates and could help as 
> well.
> Thanks
> Grey
> 
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:02 PM Bruce Hershenson  mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dale
> > 
> > (With apologies to Alfred Hitchcock's The 39 Steps) don't you mean like 
> > THIS?
> > 
> > eMoviePoster.com Commission Rates
> > 
> > We have carefully figured out how much time and effort goes into selling an 
> > item online, from start to finish. It takes the exact same amount of work 
> > to sell a $10 one-sheet as a $1000 one-sheet. The cost to us of the labor 
> > and overhead required to sell each item is an absolute minimum of $12.50 
> > each. The vast majority of buyers pay with credit cards or PayPal, which 
> > costs us roughly three percent of the total. Taking everything into 
> > consideration, we have arrived at the below commission rates.
> > 
> > If an item sells for: We receive this amount:
> > $20,000+ 10% of the selling price
> > $15,000 to $19,999 12% of the selling price
> > $10,000 to 14,999 14% of the selling price
> > $7,500 to $9,999 16% of the selling price
> > $5,000 to $7,499 18% of the selling price
> > $1,200 to $4,999 20% of the selling price
> > $600 to $1,199 22% of the selling price
> > $400 to $599 24% of the selling price
> > $250 to $399 26% of the selling price
> > $100 to $249 28% of the selling price
> > $70 to $99 30% of the selling price
> > $50 to $69 35% of the selling price
> > $35 to $49 40% of the selling price
> > $25 to $34 50% of the selling price
> > $13 to $24 66% of the selling price
> > $1 to $12 75% of the selling price
> > *The rates are for what is sold in each individual auction, not for your 
> > consignment as a whole. And note that we don't want ANY sub-$30 
> > consignments, which is why we have set those rates so high, but they are 
> > still quite a bit lower than auctions with "$29 minimum buyers premiums".
> > 
> > IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT OUR RATES: If you compare the above rates to those of 
> > other major auction companies, it may appear that we charge MORE than they 
> > do. BUT ACTUALLY, WE CHARGE LESS THAN THEY DO AT EVERY SINGLE PRICE LEVEL 
> > (see the link below for a chart that proves this beyond a shadow of a 
> > doubt)! How is this true? Because they charge "buyers premiums" to every 
> > buyer (usually 20% or so), which means that a buyer of a "$1,000" poster 
> > pays $200 more, or $1,200 in all. The seller (you) then receives $1,000 
> > less their commission (usually 15% to 25%), which means that you receive 
> > between $750 and $850 on that poster that the buyer paid $1,200 for. But IN 
> > OUR AUCTIONS, when your poster auctions for $1,200, there is no buyers 
> > premium, and you receive $1,200 less 20%, which is $960, substantially more 
> > than the $750 to $850 you receive from any other major auction!
> > 
> > https://www.emovieposter.com/learnmore/?page=consign#intro
> > 
> > Bruce
> > 
> > On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 5:17 PM Dale Dilts  > mailto:ddilts...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > This is ridiculous, is it really that hard to layout out a net return 
> > > chart for potential customers.
> > > 
> > > Your items sells for 750 - 999.000 with buyers premium, you the buyer get 
> > > .75 - .99 for that consigned item.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "peter contarino"  > > mailto:mpexchangeu...@gmail.com>
> > > To: "MoPo-L"  > > mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 3:34:52 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees
> > > 
> > > Hi Helmut,
> > > 
> > > Well I did get a perfunctory email, albeit no mention of how the BP 
> > > affects
> > > the final seller's net:
> > > .
> > > 
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I believe your question was already answered.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Consignment rates vary depending on category and auction format. Heritage
> > > sells over 40 categories 

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High Noon (United Artists, 1952). Fine/Very Fine on Linen. One Sheet (27" X 
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The Green Slime (MGM, 1969). Very Fine+ on Linen. Three Sheet (41.25" X 78.5") 
Vic Livoti Artwork.
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Attack of the Mushroom People (Toho, 1963). Folded, Very Fine+. Japanese STB 
(20" X 57").
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Star Wars (20th Century Fox, 1978). Rolled, Fine/Very Fine. One Sheet (27" X 
41") Style D, Charles White III & Drew Struzan Artwork.
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House of Dracula (Universal, 1945). Fine/Very Fine. Lobby Card (11" X 14").
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Go Ape! (20th Century Fox, 1974). Rolled, Very Fine+. Banner (24" X 82").
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Pulp Fiction (Miramax, 1994). Rolled, Very Fine+. One Sheet (27" X 40") SS.
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12 Angry Men (United Artists, 1957). Fine/Very Fine. Title Lobby Card & Lobby 
Cards (2) (11" X 14").
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/drama/12-angry-men-united-artists-1957-fine-very-fine-title-lobby-card-and-lobby-cards-2-11-x-14-drama-total-3-items-/a/162324-52004.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

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To Kill a Mockingbird 

Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees

[Alan Heimann]

Think Grey’s comment is spot on…and if yr a veteran seller and Rich would
be a good example , who prob has (as the examples he cited )constantly
sought after titles..Star Wars ,Casablanca etc
in his inventory which I would assume he obtained years ago or at a  low
price , one can safely assume if you consign those to heritage or Bruce (
not much experience with propstore)yr going to make out well and very well
if the poster gets into a bidding war scenario … the sellers fees, though
obviously not small potatoes, are acceptable..
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 11:51 PM sales comic-art.com 
wrote:

> BOOM!
>
> Grey, I'm not surprised at the vitriol from some, as they have been
> trained  for vitriol in this business for 2 decades with the sellers who
> comment or insinuate that all dealers other them themself are crooks, or
> that their fees are too high, or that no one packages well, or no one
> describes well, or no one grades well etc.
>
> this gets topped off with "60% of everything we sell goes for less than
> that other company's BP".
>
> no dealer should be pissing on other dealers to try to gain a competitive
> advantage and in any corporate arena they would be crushed with lawsuits
> and settlements
>
> at the same time, "60% of everything we sell goes for less than $29" (up
> from $15, and then $20) only cheapens the hobby in general, and it makes
> even cheaper buyers.
>
> Here's what I say about Heritage:
>
> when I can get the prices they get, which are in general - better than
> what can be achieved by myself, or in ANY other auction house in the USA -
> then I will stop sending them posters to sell for me.
>
> There's no chance that another US auction would have gotten $12,000.00 for
> a 1949 international style Casablanca one sheet, and the proof is the $106
> that one auctioneer got for the same poster 3 weeks later. Considering I
> had it for sale for $2000, I don't care if HA took 1/3 of the result.
>
> HA under Grey's tenure also got me $1680 for a Pulp Fiction regular style
> one sheet, $600 for a 1989 Batman one sheet or a variety of other
> incredible results since I started consigning material to them.
> Recently they even got $10,000 for a Star Wars one sheet I sent in.
>
> When other sellers can match these results, I think they have a box to
> stand on and chirp. Until then, they're blowing farts in the wind
>
> Rich
>
> --
> *From:* MoPo List  on behalf of Grey Smith <
> greysm6...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:10 PM
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees
>
> Frankly, I’m surprised at the vitriolic discussion here.
> I believe Heritage has carried on very well for all the years I was there
> and continues with no question about their practices.
> Yes, there is a seller's fee and a buyer's premium.
> These aren’t hidden, nor is the buyer in any way surprised, as that is
> spelled out. What’s more, you will pay for shipping.
> As for the consignor, one may ask why they would do that, as the fees add
> up so as to seem unreasonable.
> In an auction, one in which there are a number of bidders and many
> cross-over bidders from other venues, you can get outstanding results that
> are far and away better than one can sell privately for.
> It is absolutely the best way to sell collectibles!
>
> I suggest a personal email to Zach, and he can answer any questions.
> If not, I suggest I am very conversant with their rates and could help as
> well.
> Thanks
> Grey
>
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:02 PM Bruce Hershenson <
> brucehershen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dale
>
> (With apologies to Alfred Hitchcock's The 39 Steps) don't you mean like
> *THIS*?
>
> *eMoviePoster.com Commission Rates*
>
> We have carefully figured out how much time and effort goes into selling
> an item online, from start to finish. It takes the exact same amount of
> work to sell a $10 one-sheet as a $1000 one-sheet. The cost to us of the
> labor and overhead required to sell each item is an absolute minimum of
> $12.50 each. The vast majority of buyers pay with credit cards or PayPal,
> which costs us roughly three percent of the total. Taking everything into
> consideration, we have arrived at the below commission rates.
>
> If an item sells for: We receive this amount:
> $20,000+ 10% of the selling price
> $15,000 to $19,999 12% of the selling price
> $10,000 to 14,999 14% of the selling price
> $7,500 to $9,999 16% of the selling price
> $5,000 to $7,499 18% of the selling price
> $1,200 to $4,999 20% of the selling price
> $600 to $1,199 22% of the selling price
> $400 to $599 24% of the selling price
> $250 to $399 26% of the selling price
> $100 to $249 28% of the selling price
> $70 to $99 30% of the selling price
> $50 to $69 35% of the selling price
> $35 to $49 40% of the selling price
> $25 to $34 50% of the selling price
> $13 to $24 66% of the selling price
> $1 to $12 75% of the selling price
> *The rates are for what is sold in