[MOPO] Please cut it out!

2008-07-15 Thread Bruce Hershenson
I don't like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps over
whether the buyers premium should be included in the price, and then one
side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all again divide into two
camps over whether that is an appropriate insult!

I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you want, but is
this not very counter-productive? No one is changing sides, and no one is
convincing anyone of anything, and people are getting more heated.

Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these boards
and then was never seen again (and of course the person who got into it with
him almost never posts either)? Is this going to be an instant replay? Does
MoPo have so many regular posters that it can afford to lose one or two of
the best ones? I think not.

Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted the way
MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they *DO* act that way, so
look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if you want a microcosm
of that here.

If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something that no
one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun control or
abortion, or gay marriage?

I like MoPo, and I can't help  noticing the number of people drops little by
little every week, and I can't help wondering if topics like these don't
contribute to that.

If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay
is?

Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!

2008-07-15 Thread Patrick Michael Tupy
Bruce, I agree that no minds appear to have been changed which is why  
I tried, feebly, to change the subject.


However, I couldn't agree with you more.  Gay Married folks with guns  
can do whatever they want...


Patrick

ps: methinks that's # 2 for me.  So any further thoughts shall be  
post-poned until tomorrow.



On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

I don't like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps  
over whether the buyers premium should be included in the price,  
and then one side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all  
again divide into two camps over whether that is an appropriate  
insult!


I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you  
want, but is this not very counter-productive? No one is changing  
sides, and no one is convincing anyone of anything, and people are  
getting more heated.


Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these  
boards and then was never seen again (and of course the person who  
got into it with him almost never posts either)? Is this going to  
be an instant replay? Does MoPo have so many regular posters that  
it can afford to lose one or two of the best ones? I think not.


Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted  
the way MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they DO act  
that way, so look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if  
you want a microcosm of that here.


If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something  
that no one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun  
control or abortion, or gay marriage?


I like MoPo, and I can't help  noticing the number of people drops  
little by little every week, and I can't help wondering if topics  
like these don't contribute to that.


If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how  
awful eBay is?


Bruce


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Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!

2008-07-15 Thread Evan Zweifel

 
 If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay
 is?
 

The other day, my son (who is 11) discovered the joys of reading Dave Barry.  
So we logged onto eBay found a lot of 10 books closing in a couple of hours.  
We put in a bid and won (10 books for $11 + $7 shipping) !!  I clicked on the 
the paypal button and about 30 seconds later money transferred from the bank 
account (yes, my bank account) to someone, somewhere out in the ether.  
Yesterday, a box arrived with my books arrived and I left positive feedback for 
the seller.

That was awful!!! 

eBay and paypal totally suck.







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I dont like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps over whether the buyers premium should be included in the price, and then one side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all again divide into two camps over whether that is an appropriate insult!


I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you want, but is this not very counter-productive? No one is changing sides, and no one is convincing anyone of anything, and people are getting more heated.


Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these boards and then was never seen again (and of course the person who got into it with him almost never posts either)? Is this going to be an instant replay? Does MoPo have so many regular posters that it can afford to lose one or two of the best ones? I think not.


Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted the way MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they DO act that way, so look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if you want a microcosm of that here.


If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something that no one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun control or abortion, or gay marriage?

I like MoPo, and I cant help noticing the number of people drops little by little every week, and I cant help wondering if topics like these dont contribute to that.

Ifyou need something to unify behind, why dont we discuss how awful eBay is?

Bruce


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Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!

2008-07-15 Thread Freedom Lover
You poor baby.  I can't believe that happened to your son... and so  
young...


Did I ever tell you about my kid brother, Captain Atheist?  He was on  
the news, too.  I think I'll get him the '10 Commandments' for  
Hanukah... (the poster).  He'll go nuts! LOL!!!  Hey, if he's an  
atheist, I'm not really discussing religion, right?


Then, of course, it would mean Independents aren't really political...

How many atheists and Independents are on Ebay?  And, most  
importantly, how do these 'fringe' people feel about BP?  Do they even  
subscribe to the PayPal mentality?  Do they honor their restorers and  
leave sacrificial pots of touch-up paint?


I don't trust them.

Andrea


On Jul 15, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Evan Zweifel wrote:





If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how  
awful eBay

is?



The other day, my son (who is 11) discovered the joys of reading  
Dave Barry.  So we logged onto eBay found a lot of 10 books  
closing in a couple of hours.  We put in a bid and won (10 books for  
$11 + $7 shipping) !!  I clicked on the the paypal button and about  
30 seconds later money transferred from the bank account (yes, my  
bank account) to someone, somewhere out in the ether.  Yesterday, a  
box arrived with my books arrived and I left positive feedback for  
the seller.


That was awful!!!

eBay and paypal totally suck.







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From: Bruce Hershenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: July 15, 2008 3:52:09 PM EDT
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Please cut it out!


I don't like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps  
over whether the buyers premium should be included in the price, and  
then one side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all  
again divide into two camps over whether that is an appropriate  
insult!


I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you want,  
but is this not very counter-productive? No one is changing sides,  
and no one is convincing anyone of anything, and people are getting  
more heated.


Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these  
boards and then was never seen again (and of course the person who  
got into it with him almost never posts either)? Is this going to be  
an instant replay? Does MoPo have so many regular posters that it  
can afford to lose one or two of the best ones? I think not.


Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted  
the way MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they DO act  
that way, so look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if  
you want a microcosm of that here.


If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something  
that no one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun  
control or abortion, or gay marriage?


I like MoPo, and I can't help  noticing the number of people drops  
little by little every week, and I can't help wondering if topics  
like these don't contribute to that.


If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how  
awful eBay is?


Bruce


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Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!

2008-07-15 Thread Susan Heim
Bravo Evan.while there are definitely some issues Ebay could deal with 
better, I have had some wonderful experiences. My daughter, turning 12 
tomorrow, and I collect Disney pins and Beatles memorabilia. We log on all the 
time together and have a blast finding just the right pin or some Beatles 
item that we have never seen before. As a seller, I deal daily with the 
downside of Ebay. However, I remember that Ebay has opened avenues of customers 
for me that I would otherwise not have. Not only have I developed a huge 
customer base, but have made some very nice collector friends along the way. 
So, for me, the good outweighs the annoying. I haven't found anything in life 
yet that is perfect!

Sue
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   If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay
   is?
   

  The other day, my son (who is 11) discovered the joys of reading Dave 
Barry.  So we logged onto eBay found a lot of 10 books closing in a couple of 
hours.  We put in a bid and won (10 books for $11 + $7 shipping) !!  I clicked 
on the the paypal button and about 30 seconds later money transferred from the 
bank account (yes, my bank account) to someone, somewhere out in the ether.  
Yesterday, a box arrived with my books arrived and I left positive feedback for 
the seller.

  That was awful!!! 

  eBay and paypal totally suck.







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Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!

2008-07-15 Thread Vaughn K.Mann

Hi Folks,

I have gotta tell you.there are some great personalities on 
this site and enjoy mysemi-lurking considerably. These two post 
simply and emphatically got me laughing out loud.


But to the point. Evan, this is really important to me. Do you feel the 
books (10) now have a value of $10.00 or  $18.00?.Jus 
kidding folks; a little levity never hurts...Honest, don't want to 
start it again, right Sue..haha, Vaughn



At 05:03 PM 7/15/2008 -0400, Freedom Lover wrote:

You poor baby.  I can't believe that happened to your son... and so young...

Did I ever tell you about my kid brother, Captain Atheist?  He was on the 
news, too.  I think I'll get him the '10 Commandments' for Hanukah... (the 
poster).  He'll go nuts! LOL!!!  Hey, if he's an atheist, I'm not really 
discussing religion, right?


Then, of course, it would mean Independents aren't really political...

How many atheists and Independents are on Ebay?  And, most importantly, 
how do these 'fringe' people feel about BP?  Do they even subscribe to the 
PayPal mentality?  Do they honor their restorers and leave sacrificial 
pots of touch-up paint?


I don't trust them.

Andrea


On Jul 15, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Evan Zweifel wrote:





If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay
is?


The other day, my son (who is 11) discovered the joys of reading Dave 
Barry.  So we logged onto eBay found a lot of 10 books closing in a 
couple of hours.  We put in a bid and won (10 books for $11 + $7 
shipping) !!  I clicked on the the paypal button and about 30 seconds 
later money transferred from the bank account (yes, my bank account) to 
someone, somewhere out in the ether.  Yesterday, a box arrived with my 
books arrived and I left positive feedback for the seller.


That was awful!!!

eBay and paypal totally suck.







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Date: July 15, 2008 3:52:09 PM EDT
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Subject: [MOPO] Please cut it out!


I don't like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps over 
whether the buyers premium should be included in the price, and then one 
side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all again divide into 
two camps over whether that is an appropriate insult!


I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you want, but 
is this not very counter-productive? No one is changing sides, and no one 
is convincing anyone of anything, and people are getting more heated.


Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these 
boards and then was never seen again (and of course the person who got 
into it with him almost never posts either)? Is this going to be an 
instant replay? Does MoPo have so many regular posters that it can afford 
to lose one or two of the best ones? I think not.


Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted the way 
MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they DO act that way, so 
look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if you want a 
microcosm of that here.


If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something that 
no one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun control or 
abortion, or gay marriage?


I like MoPo, and I can't help  noticing the number of people drops little 
by little every week, and I can't help wondering if topics like these 
don't contribute to that.


If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful 
eBay is?


Bruce


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the twenty-first century