Re: [MOSAIC] Data Teams
Truer words have rarely been spoken. Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2012, at 8:47 PM, kea...@aol.com wrote: If your data collection is anything like ours (aimsweb) it is useless as far as informing instruction. We waste hours in data team meetings discussing scores that measure how fast a child can read, rather than if he can comprehend. I'd consider myself lucky to be as distanced as possible. -Original Message- From: Beverlee Paul beverleep...@gmail.com To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Cc: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Data Teams Makes perfect sense to me in Education 2012 -- make sure to put everything possible in the hands of those the furtherest from the child. That way the people with the least knowledge of the child can make the most decisions. Perfect sense, I tell you. Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Dionne, Jeanne dion...@northstonington.k12.ct.us wrote: I know that this listserv is primarily for reading comprehension but I am desperately hoping to get some feedback on the following . . . Does anyone use 'data teams' to administer ALL 'universal screen' assessments to students? If so, do these data teams include the classroom teacher? Our district is planning to use data teams to administer all universal screens next year (3 times per year) but the teacher will not be a part of that team . . . the plan is for the teacher to meet with those that administered the test (reading teacher, school psych, speech path, sp ed teacher) to get the results . . . any thoughts or personal experiences with such would be appreciated. Jeanne Dionne 1st Grade Teacher North Stonington Elementary School 860-535-2805 ext. 103 Love and respect all children for with the passing of time they become us. All emails using the North Stonington Public School’s email system should conform to BOE Network Policy # 4118.5, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you have received this in error, please delete this message and any attachments and notify the sender by replying to this email. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive
Re: [MOSAIC] Data Teams
I think Troy makes a good point. Since none of this data collection is really necessary, and doesn't really tell any teacher anything more useful than what she/he already knows, you might as well just miss one child at a time out of your classroom and at least be able to teach. NOT that I am DEFENDING any of this disgusting practice, you understand. I would tell them to just send me the results, and if I have any questions, I'll ask. In one generation, our population is going to be even stupider than it already is. Mark my words. sigh Renee On May 10, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Troy F wrote: It would save you a lot of time and you would be able to teach more and not give the assessments yourself.You will get to know your students as readers reguardless by listening to them read in any format and conferring with them about what you notice. Just take notes as you listen to them read. Fountus and Pinnell testing is taking up way to much time in my district for classroom teachers along with all the other assessments they are required to give. I know it feels like you are not getting to know each student as a reader, but it can be more efficient use of your time, if you bring your notes with you when you meet to the individuals who give the assessments and compare what you both notice. I can see bonuses for have the teacher be a part of giving the assessments and not. You have to make it work which ever way it is done. Troy Fredde On May 10, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Dionne, Jeanne dion...@northstonington.k12.ct.us wrote: I know that this listserv is primarily for reading comprehension but I am desperately hoping to get some feedback on the following . . . Does anyone use 'data teams' to administer ALL 'universal screen' assessments to students? If so, do these data teams include the classroom teacher? Our district is planning to use data teams to administer all universal screens next year (3 times per year) but the teacher will not be a part of that team . . . the plan is for the teacher to meet with those that administered the test (reading teacher, school psych, speech path, sp ed teacher) to get the results . . . any thoughts or personal experiences with such would be appreciated. Jeanne Dionne 1st Grade Teacher North Stonington Elementary School 860-535-2805 ext. 103 Love and respect all children for with the passing of time they become us. All emails using the North Stonington Public School’s email system should conform to BOE Network Policy # 4118.5, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you have received this in error, please delete this message and any attachments and notify the sender by replying to this email. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive He who dares not offend cannot be honest. ~ Thomas Paine ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive
Re: [MOSAIC] Data Teams
We have those teams to do the dibles benchmarks three times a year. We also have rti days twice a quarter where we meet with all of the intervention staff like you had mentioned. At first I was unsure, but now I like it. Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Dionne, Jeanne dion...@northstonington.k12.ct.us wrote: I know that this listserv is primarily for reading comprehension but I am desperately hoping to get some feedback on the following . . . Does anyone use 'data teams' to administer ALL 'universal screen' assessments to students? If so, do these data teams include the classroom teacher? Our district is planning to use data teams to administer all universal screens next year (3 times per year) but the teacher will not be a part of that team . . . the plan is for the teacher to meet with those that administered the test (reading teacher, school psych, speech path, sp ed teacher) to get the results . . . any thoughts or personal experiences with such would be appreciated. Jeanne Dionne 1st Grade Teacher North Stonington Elementary School 860-535-2805 ext. 103 Love and respect all children for with the passing of time they become us. All emails using the North Stonington Public School’s email system should conform to BOE Network Policy # 4118.5, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you have received this in error, please delete this message and any attachments and notify the sender by replying to this email. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive
Re: [MOSAIC] Data Teams
Makes perfect sense to me in Education 2012 -- make sure to put everything possible in the hands of those the furtherest from the child. That way the people with the least knowledge of the child can make the most decisions. Perfect sense, I tell you. Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Dionne, Jeanne dion...@northstonington.k12.ct.us wrote: I know that this listserv is primarily for reading comprehension but I am desperately hoping to get some feedback on the following . . . Does anyone use 'data teams' to administer ALL 'universal screen' assessments to students? If so, do these data teams include the classroom teacher? Our district is planning to use data teams to administer all universal screens next year (3 times per year) but the teacher will not be a part of that team . . . the plan is for the teacher to meet with those that administered the test (reading teacher, school psych, speech path, sp ed teacher) to get the results . . . any thoughts or personal experiences with such would be appreciated. Jeanne Dionne 1st Grade Teacher North Stonington Elementary School 860-535-2805 ext. 103 Love and respect all children for with the passing of time they become us. All emails using the North Stonington Public School’s email system should conform to BOE Network Policy # 4118.5, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you have received this in error, please delete this message and any attachments and notify the sender by replying to this email. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive
Re: [MOSAIC] Data Teams
It would save you a lot of time and you would be able to teach more and not give the assessments yourself.You will get to know your students as readers reguardless by listening to them read in any format and conferring with them about what you notice. Just take notes as you listen to them read. Fountus and Pinnell testing is taking up way to much time in my district for classroom teachers along with all the other assessments they are required to give. I know it feels like you are not getting to know each student as a reader, but it can be more efficient use of your time, if you bring your notes with you when you meet to the individuals who give the assessments and compare what you both notice. I can see bonuses for have the teacher be a part of giving the assessments and not. You have to make it work which ever way it is done. Troy Fredde On May 10, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Dionne, Jeanne dion...@northstonington.k12.ct.us wrote: I know that this listserv is primarily for reading comprehension but I am desperately hoping to get some feedback on the following . . . Does anyone use 'data teams' to administer ALL 'universal screen' assessments to students? If so, do these data teams include the classroom teacher? Our district is planning to use data teams to administer all universal screens next year (3 times per year) but the teacher will not be a part of that team . . . the plan is for the teacher to meet with those that administered the test (reading teacher, school psych, speech path, sp ed teacher) to get the results . . . any thoughts or personal experiences with such would be appreciated. Jeanne Dionne 1st Grade Teacher North Stonington Elementary School 860-535-2805 ext. 103 Love and respect all children for with the passing of time they become us. All emails using the North Stonington Public School’s email system should conform to BOE Network Policy # 4118.5, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you have received this in error, please delete this message and any attachments and notify the sender by replying to this email. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive
Re: [MOSAIC] Data Teams
If your data collection is anything like ours (aimsweb) it is useless as far as informing instruction. We waste hours in data team meetings discussing scores that measure how fast a child can read, rather than if he can comprehend. I'd consider myself lucky to be as distanced as possible. -Original Message- From: Beverlee Paul beverleep...@gmail.com To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Cc: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Data Teams Makes perfect sense to me in Education 2012 -- make sure to put everything possible in the hands of those the furtherest from the child. That way the people with the least knowledge of the child can make the most decisions. Perfect sense, I tell you. Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Dionne, Jeanne dion...@northstonington.k12.ct.us wrote: I know that this listserv is primarily for reading comprehension but I am desperately hoping to get some feedback on the following . . . Does anyone use 'data teams' to administer ALL 'universal screen' assessments to students? If so, do these data teams include the classroom teacher? Our district is planning to use data teams to administer all universal screens next year (3 times per year) but the teacher will not be a part of that team . . . the plan is for the teacher to meet with those that administered the test (reading teacher, school psych, speech path, sp ed teacher) to get the results . . . any thoughts or personal experiences with such would be appreciated. Jeanne Dionne 1st Grade Teacher North Stonington Elementary School 860-535-2805 ext. 103 Love and respect all children for with the passing of time they become us. All emails using the North Stonington Public School’s email system should conform to BOE Network Policy # 4118.5, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you have received this in error, please delete this message and any attachments and notify the sender by replying to this email. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive
